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Weaver95: death is such a primative concept - I like to think we all end up fighting evil in another dimension.

So we all end up as video game characters? Can I be Mario?

Weaver95: death is such a primative concept - I like to think we all end up fighting evil in another dimension.

I prefer the Star Ocean 3 theory - we're all just AI characters in a massive MMO.

Weaver95: death is such a primative concept - I like to think we all end up fighting evil in another dimension.

I used to work with a guy who had a great theory about death: all the energy that used to be you is taken and put into the construction of a giant being in another universe. If you were good in your life, you get to be part of a hand or ear, and if you were a jerk in your life you get to be part of the asshole.

The longer I live, the more I kinda don't want an afterlife. I just know I'm going to spend most of it looking for answers to stupid questions like "If I stacked all of my skin flakes in a 1 square inch column, how high would it reach?"

Plus I was perfectly content before I was born, and I think of death as the same experience.

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/or reincarnation

Just as long as it's not Riverworld.

With my luck I'd wake up with a bunch of 14th Century French peasant plague victims and have to remember all the French I managed to forget in high school. Lordy.

lerry: The longer I live, the more I kinda don't want an afterlife. I just know I'm going to spend most of it looking for answers to stupid questions like "If I stacked all of my skin flakes in a 1 square inch column, how high would it reach?"

Plus I was perfectly content before I was born, and I think of death as the same experience.

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I try to avoid my relatives while they are alive, so I'm not sure what would compel me to hang out with them for all eternity when we are all dead. And I hate bloody harps anyway.

Yeah, the whole idea of hell and Satan is all kind of tacked on there because they needed a whip to go along with the carrot of heaven.

I wouldn't mind being immortal as long as:

1. I couldn't be harmed unless I chose to be (so I could still choose to kill myself if I wanted).
2. I remained young and in good health throughout.

I just hate not knowing what happens next. I want to know humanity's ultimate fate, damn it.

If they believe in nothing and their belief system isn't a religion then why do fundamentalist atheists feel compelled to push their anti-belief? It would be comical if it wasn't so very sad.

Only the fool says their is no God.

Mija: If they believe in nothing and their belief system isn't a religion then why do fundamentalist atheists feel compelled to push their anti-belief? It would be comical if it wasn't so very sad.

Only the fool says their is no God.

The fact that you don't understand the difference between nihilism and atheism tells me you're remarkably uneducated.

Barakku: Weaver95: death is such a primative concept - I like to think we all end up fighting evil in another dimension.

So we all end up as video game characters? Can I be Mario?

"Welcome to Heaven! Press START."

Instant warp to the cloud level!

I'm totally going to be a yoshi farmer.

That author needs to fark the hell off. That belief is all I have to keep getting up out of bed and not downing a chasing a bottle of Tylenol PMs with a bottle of Stoli. Thursday will be four years that my little sister died, and she had a firm belief in Christianity, but she was the ultra-rare non-judgemental Christian. Despite my Atheism, when she died, I switched slightly just so I could imagine her in Heaven. She was just like our Grandmothers.

/I still miss her.
//I'm probably the only Atheist on this planet that believes there is a Heaven if just for that.
///Seriously, why did that guy write that? Just to get in my craw, that's why!

^^^scratch downing.

/Derp.

PWNtheCCP: Barakku: Weaver95: death is such a primative concept - I like to think we all end up fighting evil in another dimension.

So we all end up as video game characters? Can I be Mario?

"Welcome to Heaven! Press START."

Instant warp to the cloud level!



Another idea...

I'm totally going to be a yoshi farmer.

Mija: If they believe in nothing and their belief system isn't a religion then why do fundamentalist atheists feel compelled to push their anti-belief? It would be comical if it wasn't so very sad.

Only the fool says their is no God.

I suggest the meme be shortened to OTIO (obvious troll is obvious)

Gee...I was kind hoping for strippers and beer volcanos.

/Ramen

Juniper Jupiter: /I still miss her.
//I'm probably the only Atheist on this planet that believes there is a Heaven if just for that.
///Seriously, why did that guy write that? Just to get in my craw, that's why!

Just because something is desirable dont make it so...

The truth is more important than your desires, I must insist.

James F. Campbell: I just hate not knowing what happens next. I want to know humanity's ultimate fate, damn it.

Someway, somehow, I really think we'll finally manage to kill ourselves out. Provided nature gives us the time.

:D

Juniper Jupiter: That author needs to fark the hell off. That belief is all I have to keep getting up out of bed and not downing a chasing a bottle of Tylenol PMs with a bottle of Stoli. Thursday will be four years that my little sister died, and she had a firm belief in Christianity, but she was the ultra-rare non-judgemental Christian. Despite my Atheism, when she died, I switched slightly just so I could imagine her in Heaven. She was just like our Grandmothers.

/I still miss her.
//I'm probably the only Atheist on this planet that believes there is a Heaven if just for that.
///Seriously, why did that guy write that? Just to get in my craw, that's why!

That's rough, and I can sympathize. My father died several years ago and, though I logically believe that "heaven" is likely a sham, it's tempting and reassuring to imagine him there.

Is he really there or continuing on in any form? Probably not, but I wish he were and hope I'm wrong.

As soon as people born in the 80's start dying off, Heaven is going to look very very different...

I like this comment on the issue:

I don't want to meet my grandparents again, fark that shiat one life time was enough.



Gimme some Valhalla, party all night and Quake deathmatch irl. Woohoo!

Barakku: Weaver95: death is such a primative concept - I like to think we all end up fighting evil in another dimension.

So we all end up as video game characters? Can I be Mario?



Now you can be Mario.

I live in a beautiful place of rushing creeks, crystal clear rivers, deep green forests and other abundances of nature.

No, I've never gotten tired of it. Why would someone get tired of something they love? I'm grateful each day for where I live. (even though the conditions under which I live are not always the best.)

No, I am not bored here on Earth. I have more I want to do and learn than I could ever get done in a life time. But looking beyond being "productive" at something. Do you get "bored" of being happy? Feeling joy? I don't. I seek it constantly. If I am unhappy, that is pain. I have experienced enough pain in my life. I prefer joy and happiness. Boredom is lacking stimulation (either external or internal) joy and happiness are stimulating in of themselves. Ask a classic "newly wed" who is sitting doing nothing if they are "bored". They are not. They are happy.

I do not *know* what will happen to me when I die. I have no *proof* about what will happen.

But I wouldn't mind going to heaven.

That was a really interesting history of a religious concept, right up to about this point:

She only just stops short of demanding to know what the carpeting will be like. But she never asks the most basic questions: where's your evidence? Where are you getting these ideas from? These questions are considered obvious when we are asking about any set of ideas, except when it comes to religion, when they are considered to be a slap in the face.

Really? You go from, "hey, history, it's cool, innit?" to "atheism is better rawrrargarbl" halfway through the article? Where's my neat story about the development of a cultural ideal that the beginning of the article implied was coming?

Next time people asks what a militant atheist is and if they annoy other atheists as much as they do religious people, article is a prime example and yes.

James F. Campbell:
I just hate not knowing what happens next. I want to know humanity's ultimate fate, damn it.

Hell, anyone can take a stab at that. I think we'll advance our technology to the point where it can integrate with human intelligence, then some or all of us will have the capacity to develop space-flight independent of a government, and we'll scatter to the stars and continue along similar lines until the heat-death of the universe.

If you mean your personal ultimate fate, I can tell you that one without even the guessing: you're gonna die and get reduced (in the colloquial sense, not the chemical sense) to more basic compounds, and eventually end up on fire at some point (either by getting nutrient-recycled into the carbon cycle, or via cremation as we run low on cemetary space. Maybe fire will even be the cause of death!)

cantsleep: James F. Campbell: I just hate not knowing what happens next. I want to know humanity's ultimate fate, damn it.

Someway, somehow, I really think we'll finally manage to kill ourselves out. Provided nature gives us the time.

Yeah, but I want to see HOW humanity dies.

Personally, I think you go wherever you think you'll go after you die. I'm hoping to come back as a ghost and haunt the Internet... or maybe I already have...

Fuller: Juniper Jupiter: /I still miss her.
//I'm probably the only Atheist on this planet that believes there is a Heaven if just for that.
///Seriously, why did that guy write that? Just to get in my craw, that's why!

Just because something is desirable dont make it so...

The truth is more important than your desires, I must insist.

Not only are you an asshole. But you are wrong.

If you want to find the Truth. Knock yourself out.

If someone is struggling to get up everyday and has a vision that helps them do so. They do not have to give that up to please your personal quest for Truth.

/survival is the ultimate ideology.
//They do not give a fark about your quest, nor do they have to. ///You are vain and selfish to think otherwise.

Jim_Callahan: That was a really interesting history of a religious concept, right up to about this point:

She only just stops short of demanding to know what the carpeting will be like. But she never asks the most basic questions: where's your evidence? Where are you getting these ideas from? These questions are considered obvious when we are asking about any set of ideas, except when it comes to religion, when they are considered to be a slap in the face.

Really? You go from, "hey, history, it's cool, innit?" to "atheism is better rawrrargarbl" halfway through the article? Where's my neat story about the development of a cultural ideal that the beginning of the article implied was coming?

Next time people asks what a militant atheist is and if they annoy other atheists as much as they do religious people, article is a prime example and yes.

James F. Campbell:
I just hate not knowing what happens next. I want to know humanity's ultimate fate, damn it.

Hell, anyone can take a stab at that. I think we'll advance our technology to the point where it can integrate with human intelligence, then some or all of us will have the capacity to develop space-flight independent of a government, and we'll scatter to the stars and continue along similar lines until the heat-death of the universe.

If you mean your personal ultimate fate, I can tell you that one without even the guessing: you're gonna die and get reduced (in the colloquial sense, not the chemical sense) to more basic compounds, and eventually end up on fire at some point (either by getting nutrient-recycled into the carbon cycle, or via cremation as we run low on cemetary space. Maybe fire will even be the cause of death!)

Deja farking vu...

Did you copy paste that from another post somewhere? Because I've read that before...

/this is *weird*
//and it's bedtime too, dangit!

Jgok: cantsleep: James F. Campbell: I just hate not knowing what happens next. I want to know humanity's ultimate fate, damn it.

Someway, somehow, I really think we'll finally manage to kill ourselves out. Provided nature gives us the time.

Yeah, but I want to see HOW humanity dies.

Personally, I think you go wherever you think you'll go after you die. I'm hoping to come back as a ghost and haunt the Internet... or maybe I already have...

The Ghost in the Machine?

/I lol'ed
//really I'm going to bed now...

Jim_Callahan: That was a really interesting history of a religious concept, right up to about this point:

She only just stops short of demanding to know what the carpeting will be like. But she never asks the most basic questions: where's your evidence? Where are you getting these ideas from? These questions are considered obvious when we are asking about any set of ideas, except when it comes to religion, when they are considered to be a slap in the face.

Really? You go from, "hey, history, it's cool, innit?" to "atheism is better rawrrargarbl" halfway through the article? Where's my neat story about the development of a cultural ideal that the beginning of the article implied was coming?

I agree. It was an interesting article about the history and evolution of heaven then it changed to "heaven is a tool to subjugate believers" and "why even believe in it at all?" Those are separate articles.

"After all this time, can't we finally follow Gilgamesh to a world beyond heaven?"



Follow this guy? Sounds like a plan to me.

Barakku: Weaver95: death is such a primative concept - I like to think we all end up fighting evil in another dimension.

So we all end up as video game characters? Can I be Mario?

Just hope you don't end up as the Nameless One...

As for me, I'm looking forward to being a petitioner in Bytopia. Maybe Mt. Celestia-the first layer sounds pretty chill.

MaxxLarge: FTA: "Jesus warned 'there is no marriage in heaven'. You didn't join your relatives. It was you and God and eternal prayer. It was paradise, but not as we know it."

Ouch. Sounds more like hell to me.

Good thing they're both fairy tales.

You could always read Revelations. A couple of multi-eyed monsters flanking God's throne and chanting "Holy, Holy, Holy" 24/7. Not for me, thanks.

ThreeEdgedSword: Pfft

I knew I would find you here -- I was about to say, "There was only one god, and he was a cowardly, whiny, sexually-repressed fourteen-year-old boy."

Jim_Callahan: Hell, anyone can take a stab at that. I think we'll advance our technology to the point where it can integrate with human intelligence, then some or all of us will have the capacity to develop space-flight independent of a government, and we'll scatter to the stars and continue along similar lines until the heat-death of the universe.

I disagree. I believe humans in general are short-sighted, so I doubt we will develop the technology to successfully colonize other planets in time to avoid humanity being entirely wiped out by a superbolide collision.

Wow. Are they implying that "heaven" is a big fraud like Goldman Sachs. Because I'm implying that.

We already had the thread where they figured out it's a ketamine reaction.

cuzsis:
Did you copy paste that from another post somewhere? Because I've read that before...

/this is *weird*
//and it's bedtime too, dangit!

Not... intentionally. Maybe I'm unconsciously channeling someone? Jgok might be a ghost, apparently, so it's possible.

James F. Campbell:
I disagree. I believe humans in general are short-sighted, so I doubt we will develop the technology to successfully colonize other planets in time to avoid humanity being entirely wiped out by a superbolide collision.

Hey, gotta be optimistic about something. Though maybe optimism is the wrong word, since I think a lot of our advancement (and survival) is a result of us being crazy enough that there's someone trying everything somewhere, so the solutions to problems are probably being done at random if nothing else.