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(Chicago Sun-Times)   Tea Party Rallies? If staging public gripe fests gives these people something to do, then great. It's outside. It involves handicrafts, the making of signs and costumes. It's like Scouting for irked middle-aged white people   (suntimes.com) divider line 606
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2010-04-18 02:53:46 AM
cuzsis: Sabyen91: cuzsis: Which is why I tend to roll my eyes when people anywhere (including Fark) start trying to pass off the "party" as a bunch of ignorant hicks or some such.

The political party is really little more than a gathering of like minded people. But the people have to come from somewhere. If you do have a political group full of racists and ignorant asshats.

Wait, are you claiming the Teabaggers are a party?

They are a self described political party.


I hope they run some retards this election cycle!
 
2010-04-18 02:54:24 AM
rewind2846: PsyRat:
But it's much easier to straw-man the movement, hurl insults like "tea-baggers", and dismiss them as red-necks, rather than acknowledge that they're reasonable people with reasonable arguments.

If they had such reasonable arguements, then why did they literally run when presented with a world-wide forum (the Chicago Sun-Times) they could use to present their ideas? Could it be because their rationale is irrational, created out of bullsh*t, lies, falsehoods and FoxNews? Where was their tax hatred, rallies and spittle from 2002- 2008, when billions were being spent every single month halfway around the planet on unnecessary wars?

This guy actually took the time to ask them their thoughts, and they couldn't come up with a single coherent one.

What's the reason for that?


If the polices are no worse.

And taxes are no worse.

And the economy is no worse.

Then why do they hate Obama so much?

What is so different about him that it has these people protesting in the streets?
 
2010-04-18 02:55:08 AM
cuzsis: Sabyen91: Alien Robot: Tea-partiers aren't racist and most anti-war protesters weren't seriously accusing Bush of lacking human DNA.

Did you just claim this? That is really weird. Who claimed Bush lacked human DNA? You are farked up.

I'm just passing through.

I thought he was referring to your comment about how you think many of the Obama posters are "racist".

He made the comparison that there were a number of "Bush = monkey" posters floating around during the previous administration, but that they weren't suggesting that Bush was lacking human DNA (ie: actually physically being a monkey.)

Likewise a number of the Obama posters you are complaining about, likely have a more subtle meaning than simple racism.


LOL, yeah, the Obama posters are VERY subtle.
 
2010-04-18 02:55:15 AM
rewind2846: PsyRat:
But it's much easier to straw-man the movement, hurl insults like "tea-baggers", and dismiss them as red-necks, rather than acknowledge that they're reasonable people with reasonable arguments.

If they had such reasonable arguements, then why did they literally run when presented with a world-wide forum (the Chicago Sun-Times) they could use to present their ideas? Could it be because their rationale is irrational, created out of bullsh*t, lies, falsehoods and FoxNews? Where was their tax hatred, rallies and spittle from 2002- 2008, when billions were being spent every single month halfway around the planet on unnecessary wars?

This guy actually took the time to ask them their thoughts, and they couldn't come up with a single coherent one.

What's the reason for that?


I wasn't aware that 3 people from one city were considered a relevant sample of the whole.

If you want to get news on a political party, you have to contact their headquarters and talk to the reps.

Most people who vote D or R, can't give much more than a parroted answer when confronted with the media either. If they even do that well.
 
2010-04-18 02:55:46 AM
nmemkha: rewind2846: PsyRat:
But it's much easier to straw-man the movement, hurl insults like "tea-baggers", and dismiss them as red-necks, rather than acknowledge that they're reasonable people with reasonable arguments.

If they had such reasonable arguements, then why did they literally run when presented with a world-wide forum (the Chicago Sun-Times) they could use to present their ideas? Could it be because their rationale is irrational, created out of bullsh*t, lies, falsehoods and FoxNews? Where was their tax hatred, rallies and spittle from 2002- 2008, when billions were being spent every single month halfway around the planet on unnecessary wars?

This guy actually took the time to ask them their thoughts, and they couldn't come up with a single coherent one.

What's the reason for that?

If the polices are no worse.

And taxes are no worse.

And the economy is no worse.

Then why do they hate Obama so much?

What is so different about him that it has these people protesting in the streets?


Black?
 
2010-04-18 02:56:41 AM
cuzsis: If you want to get news on a political party, you have to contact their headquarters and talk to the reps.

Or you could look at their tardworthy teabagging signs.
 
2010-04-18 02:58:04 AM
BTW, it can't be racism.

Several of my Tea Party sympathizing relatives have told me they have no problems with "a n*gger in the White House."

/Some of my extended family are red-necks
//My grandfather used to tell me, "Work with vigor or they will replace you with [an educated black man]."
///Thank God, I escaped their racist indoctrination
 
2010-04-18 02:58:48 AM
Sabyen91: cuzsis: Sabyen91: cuzsis: Which is why I tend to roll my eyes when people anywhere (including Fark) start trying to pass off the "party" as a bunch of ignorant hicks or some such.

The political party is really little more than a gathering of like minded people. But the people have to come from somewhere. If you do have a political group full of racists and ignorant asshats.

Wait, are you claiming the Teabaggers are a party?

They are a self described political party.

I hope they run some retards this election cycle!


Why do you hope that?

Have you run out of idiots on youtube to laugh at and you need something to occupy your otherwise pointless existence?

Personally I just hope for a decent batch of politicians, it may be a pipe dream, but at least I'm not hoping for more failure so I can laugh while things go to shiat.

/good luck with that though.
 
2010-04-18 02:59:19 AM
nmemkha: rewind2846: PsyRat:
But it's much easier to straw-man the movement, hurl insults like "tea-baggers", and dismiss them as red-necks, rather than acknowledge that they're reasonable people with reasonable arguments.

If they had such reasonable arguements, then why did they literally run when presented with a world-wide forum (the Chicago Sun-Times) they could use to present their ideas? Could it be because their rationale is irrational, created out of bullsh*t, lies, falsehoods and FoxNews? Where was their tax hatred, rallies and spittle from 2002- 2008, when billions were being spent every single month halfway around the planet on unnecessary wars?

This guy actually took the time to ask them their thoughts, and they couldn't come up with a single coherent one.

What's the reason for that?

If the polices are no worse.

And taxes are no worse.

And the economy is no worse.

Then why do they hate Obama so much?

What is so different about him that it has these people protesting in the streets?


He's a secret Muslim out to ban the Bible, force the private sector to become property of the new Communist States of America, and then force all the pregnant Christian women to have abortions. Oh, and something about those homosesxuals getting married.
 
2010-04-18 03:01:10 AM
oroku_saki: Can we just give the far right their own farking country already? I would be interested in seeing how much boot-strappiness would actually occur once the tea tards have to fend for themselves.

Seriously though, these people will never manage to get their message across. Sure, some politicians might exploit them for political gain like the GOP does with the fundies, but it still isn't going to lower taxes or whatever it is they seem to be whining about. Once another Republican becomes president, I am willing to bet money that the teabaggers are going to just look the other way as the deficit continues to mount as a result of that administration's budget plans.


Depends on if you want another Civil War.

It seems as if the South has co-opted the GOP & a good deal of the conservative message. If they get Congress back, expect retributions to fall along those lines. That is, you'll see a lot more "states rights" and an attempt to kill off General Motors(in order to finally kill off unions of any kind). However, Wall Street will remain untouched as it has in this current administration.


I'd think that the Tea Party supporters
 
2010-04-18 03:02:30 AM
sethstorm:
I'd think that the Tea Party supporters

Meant:
I'd think that the Tea Party supporters would not be in complete agreement with your message - but that the government has gone too far.
 
2010-04-18 03:03:30 AM
oroku_saki: nmemkha: Then why do they hate Obama so much?

What is so different about him that it has these people protesting in the streets?

He's a secret Muslim out to ban the Bible, force the private sector to become property of the new Communist States of America, and then force all the pregnant Christian women to have abortions. Oh, and something about those homosesxuals getting married.


If that's true, he's taking his sweet ass time. So far, I haven't seen any real progress on his agenda. Well maybe a few token gestures to homosexuals.

He better hurry! He's only got 6 years left! (I think he will be re-elected.)
 
2010-04-18 03:12:00 AM
oroku_saki: Can we just give the far right their own farking country already? I would be interested in seeing how much boot-strappiness would actually occur once the tea tards have to fend for themselves.

Seriously though, these people will never manage to get their message across. Sure, some politicians might exploit them for political gain like the GOP does with the fundies, but it still isn't going to lower taxes or whatever it is they seem to be whining about. Once another Republican becomes president, I am willing to bet money that the teabaggers are going to just look the other way as the deficit continues to mount as a result of that administration's budget plans.


You mean like how the lefties whined all through the Bush years about jobless recovery this, deficit that?

Your short-term memory is sorely lacking
 
2010-04-18 03:13:15 AM
tuna fingers: Cup_O_Jo: tuna fingers: Cup_O_Jo: fatassbastard: Cup_O_Jo:
UM---GALLUP POLL YOU MORON.

UM---GALLUP POLL says that tea baggers are MORE LIKELY to be white. And most likely FAT. AND undoubtably DUMB. YOU farkING MORON.

Here's the link you couldn't provide:
Link that Cup_O_Jo was too cowardly to provide (new window)


Your such an illiterate asshole--IT WAS IN 3 of the articles I sighted. BUT THANKS FOR PLAYING jackass.
 
2010-04-18 03:14:14 AM
Soymilk: House of Tards: absolutely_fabulous: FishingWithFredo: So dissent isn't the highest form of patriotism?

And community organizing is now bad?

It is if you don't agree with their world view.

And it also seems that while falsely accusing people of racism, it is OK to be ageist.

"Falsely"
[picture of old man holding sign "Show us your smallpox vaccination"]
That is a lot of liberal plants.
I don't get it...someone help me.


I don't either.

Most of those signs seem to be referring to the controversy over whether or not Obama was born in the US and thus eligible for the presidency.

But apparently, folks here think they are racist instead.
 
2010-04-18 03:19:24 AM
sethstorm: sethstorm:
I'd think that the Tea Party supporters

Meant:
I'd think that the Tea Party supporters would not be in complete agreement with your message - but that the government has gone too far.


There are two major flaws I see with the Tea Party movement:

1. Coherency of their message. From what I have gathered, the people in the movement are supposedly concerned with taxation and government spending. Until they can move past the "OMG OBAMA IS STALIN!" mentality, I really don't see them having much of a chance at successfully getting people in office under the Tea Party banner. Even members of the GOP have been distancing themselves from the movement recently. On top of that, I have not seen heard any actual solutions from the teabaggers that actually address the problems they biatch about so much.

2. Consistency in voicing their concerns. Assuming that this is all about taxation and government spending, where the fark were all these people when Bush was in office? Are they just angry because a Democrat happens to be sitting in the Oval Office now? Are they still going to protest if Republicans take back control and spend money on pointless crap?

These people have a right to their opinions. However, I think they should at least attempt to get their shiat together if they expect to be taken seriously.
 
2010-04-18 03:23:09 AM
cuzsis: Soymilk: House of Tards: absolutely_fabulous: FishingWithFredo: So dissent isn't the highest form of patriotism?

And community organizing is now bad?

It is if you don't agree with their world view.

And it also seems that while falsely accusing people of racism, it is OK to be ageist.

"Falsely"
[picture of old man holding sign "Show us your smallpox vaccination"]
That is a lot of liberal plants.
I don't get it...someone help me.

I don't either.

Most of those signs seem to be referring to the controversy over whether or not Obama was born in the US and thus eligible for the presidency.

But apparently, folks here think they are racist instead.


You really think they question where he was born?

This is been settled in court case after court case. Yet, no evidence has been found that he is anything but an Hawaiian born American. Hell, there was even a birth announcement in the local Hawaiian paper!

Given all these facts, you really believe that their issue with him is truly about his citizenship?
 
2010-04-18 03:26:17 AM
cuzsis:
Most people who vote D or R, can't give much more than a parroted answer when confronted with the media either. If they even do that well.


One, "Tea-Baggers" are not a political party (thank FSM for that!)
Two, if I'm going to take the time to make a sign, march in a rally and support a set of ideas, I'm going to actually LEARN WHAT THOSE IDEAS ARE and IF THEY ARE TRUTHFUL before I make an idiot of myself in public.

Even a parroted answer would be more than sufficient for the media, if that answer was backed up by FACTS and EVIDENCE, and not BULLSH*T.
 
2010-04-18 03:26:50 AM
All the nuts are out in full force these days.
 
2010-04-18 03:26:52 AM
nmemkha: BTW, it can't be racism.

Several of my Tea Party sympathizing relatives have told me they have no problems with "a n*gger in the White House."

/Some of my extended family are red-necks
//My grandfather used to tell me, "Work with vigor or they will replace you with [an educated black man]."
///Thank God, I escaped their racist indoctrination


LOL
 
2010-04-18 03:28:02 AM
oroku_saki:

There are two major flaws I see with the Tea Party movement:

1. Coherency of their message. From what I have gathered, the people in the movement are supposedly concerned with taxation and government spending. Until they can move past the "OMG OBAMA IS STALIN!" mentality, I really don't see them having much of a chance at successfully getting people in office under the Tea Party banner. Even members of the GOP have been distancing themselves from the movement recently. On top of that, I have not seen heard any actual solutions from the teabaggers that actually address the problems they biatch about so much.

2. Consistency in voicing their concerns. Assuming that this is all about taxation and government spending, where the fark were all these people when Bush was in office? Are they just angry because a Democrat happens to be sitting in the Oval Office now? Are they still going to protest if Republicans take back control and spend money on pointless crap?

These people have a right to their opinions. However, I think they should at least attempt to get their shiat together if they expect to be taken seriously.


If you saw my previous post(re: infiltrators), they seem to be trying to clean up their act. They want to get their correct message out w/o having people trying to derail it.

I'm not sure that people are going under the Tea Party banner, but as an existing conservative or independent one(that happens to support the message of the Tea Party, which is to cut government intrusion).
 
2010-04-18 03:28:04 AM
stirfrybry: oroku_saki: Can we just give the far right their own farking country already? I would be interested in seeing how much boot-strappiness would actually occur once the tea tards have to fend for themselves.

Seriously though, these people will never manage to get their message across. Sure, some politicians might exploit them for political gain like the GOP does with the fundies, but it still isn't going to lower taxes or whatever it is they seem to be whining about. Once another Republican becomes president, I am willing to bet money that the teabaggers are going to just look the other way as the deficit continues to mount as a result of that administration's budget plans.

You mean like how the lefties whined all through the Bush years about jobless recovery this, deficit that?

Your short-term memory is sorely lacking


Actually lefties biatched more about the pre-emptive Iraq war. You remember that, moron?
 
2010-04-18 03:31:56 AM
nmemkha: Given all these facts, you really believe that their issue with him is truly about his citizenship?

Do you think Orly Taitz would dislike the President less if he were Caucasian?
 
2010-04-18 03:35:20 AM
fatassbastard: nmemkha: Given all these facts, you really believe that their issue with him is truly about his citizenship?

Do you think Orly Taitz would dislike the President less if he were Caucasian?


I would love watching a news reporter try asking her that, but I have a feeling that she would just spend the next several minutes whining about how the media is conspiring against her.
 
2010-04-18 03:35:55 AM
fatassbastard: nmemkha: Given all these facts, you really believe that their issue with him is truly about his citizenship?

Do you think Orly Taitz would dislike the President less if he were Caucasian?


Yes, I do (or maybe she would if his middle name wasn't Hussein.)

Racism, religious intolerance, whatever: I think all of there accusations are based on fear and bigotry.
 
2010-04-18 03:36:15 AM
fatassbastard: nmemkha: Given all these facts, you really believe that their issue with him is truly about his citizenship?

Do you think Orly Taitz would dislike the President less if he were Caucasian?


They'd call him a "Limousine Liberal" or variants thereof.
 
2010-04-18 05:19:25 AM
Chariset: If it were a crowd of black people protesting higher taxes or redistribution of wealth or what have you, the Teabaggers would be the first to say "If they've got time enough to stand around protesting, they've got time enough to find a second job."

Tell that to all the black tea party members, or are they racist too? Why is it that liberals accuse everyone who doesn't agree with them of being a racist, is it because you cant win an argument so you need to cloud the issue by pulling the race card? Accusing people of being racist based on their skin color is itself racist and bigoted.

Link (new window)

"Black conservatives throughout the Tea Party Movement are facing harsh criticism from liberal blacks, according to the Associated Press. They are being called Oreos, Uncle Toms and traitors for opposing the policies of Barack Obama, the United States' first black president."


Link (new window)

"As a black conservative and member of the Tea Party, Deneen Borelli (pictured above) says she's been called an "oreo" and an "Uncle Tom."

In fact, according to Borelli, there would be more black people at Tea Party events like Thursday's tax day protests if blacks weren't afraid of the backlash they would receive from family and friends.

Borelli thinks Tea Party members have been unfairly branded as racists when their main concern is promoting individual responsibility and smaller government."


Link (new window)

"Because he is black, Marcus may not be the person most envision as being a Tea Party member.

But then again, neither are most Tea Party members, according to a CBS News and New York Times poll.

The poll recently found that Tea Party supporters tended to be better educated and affluent than the general public.

They also tend to be white, male, married and older than 45 and identify themselves as "very conservative," according to the poll.

The crowd at Saturday's rally largely reflected that demographic, though there were many younger attendees and plenty of women.

Many said wouldn't identify themselves as super conservative or supporters of some of the issues associated with the Tea Party movement, however."
 
2010-04-18 05:46:52 AM
Cup_O_Jo: tuna fingers: Cup_O_Jo: tuna fingers: Cup_O_Jo: fatassbastard: Cup_O_Jo:
UM---GALLUP POLL YOU MORON.

UM---GALLUP POLL says that tea baggers are MORE LIKELY to be white. And most likely FAT. AND undoubtably DUMB. YOU farkING MORON.

Here's the link you couldn't provide:
Link that Cup_O_Jo was too cowardly to provide (new window)

Your such an illiterate asshole--IT WAS IN 3 of the articles I sighted. BUT THANKS FOR PLAYING jackass.


You're the illiterate asshole, for the record. Did you read the goddamn chart? It didn't support what you said it supported! Goddamn child!
 
2010-04-18 07:14:38 AM
tuna fingers: Cup_O_Jo: tuna fingers: Cup_O_Jo: tuna fingers: Cup_O_Jo: fatassbastard: Cup_O_Jo:
UM---GALLUP POLL YOU MORON.

UM---GALLUP POLL says that tea baggers are MORE LIKELY to be white. And most likely FAT. AND undoubtably DUMB. YOU farkING MORON.

Here's the link you couldn't provide:
Link that Cup_O_Jo was too cowardly to provide (new window)

Your such an illiterate asshole--IT WAS IN 3 of the articles I sighted. BUT THANKS FOR PLAYING jackass.

You're the illiterate asshole, for the record. Did you read the goddamn chart? It didn't support what you said it supported! Goddamn child!


And the word is cited. C-I-T-E-and then a farking D.
Gawd, you are a moron.
 
2010-04-18 07:31:20 AM
redhook: Chariset: If it were a crowd of black people protesting higher taxes or redistribution of wealth or what have you, the Teabaggers would be the first to say "If they've got time enough to stand around protesting, they've got time enough to find a second job."

Tell that to all the black tea party members, or are they racist too? Why is it that liberals accuse everyone who doesn't agree with them of being a racist, is it because you cant win an argument so you need to cloud the issue by pulling the race card? Accusing people of being racist based on their skin color is itself racist and bigoted.

Link (new window)

"Black conservatives throughout the Tea Party Movement are facing harsh criticism from liberal blacks, according to the Associated Press. They are being called Oreos, Uncle Toms and traitors for opposing the policies of Barack Obama, the United States' first black president."


Link (new window)

"As a black conservative and member of the Tea Party, Deneen Borelli (pictured above) says she's been called an "oreo" and an "Uncle Tom."

In fact, according to Borelli, there would be more black people at Tea Party events like Thursday's tax day protests if blacks weren't afraid of the backlash they would receive from family and friends.

Borelli thinks Tea Party members have been unfairly branded as racists when their main concern is promoting individual responsibility and smaller government."


Link (new window)

"Because he is black, Marcus may not be the person most envision as being a Tea Party member.

But then again, neither are most Tea Party members, according to a CBS News and New York Times poll.

The poll recently found that Tea Party supporters tended to be better educated and affluent than the general public.

They also tend to be white, male, married and older than 45 and identify themselves as "very conservative," according to the poll.

The crowd at Saturday's rally largely reflected that demographic, though there were many younger attendees and plenty of women.

Many said wouldn't identify themselves as super conservative or supporters of some of the issues associated with the Tea Party movement, however."


I wonder what he thinks of:

killinmesoftly.files.wordpress.com
static.open.salon.com
 
2010-04-18 09:47:31 AM
Teabaggers can't be taken seriously because they root their entire argument on their "faith" and not so much on the fiscal responsibility they claim to have a monopoly on.

Their supposed leader, Sarah Palin, is an imbecilic twit who was elected Mayor of a small, rather isolated town with little tax base and a seriously sub-par school district. She immediately hired her best freind to do the actual work of mayor while she played the part around town, pretty much campaigning all the time and schmoozing the locals and making herself as visible as she could in association with the local evil-angelical megachurch.

The town had a running budget surplus, and was saving money for a new fire station with new equipment. At the time she was elected, the town was 2 years away from its goal of saving enough for the Federal and State matching funds for a new Pumper truck, a large ladder/technical rescue truck, a modern paramedic unit and a modern building to put them in. She took that surplus, borrowed money against it and built a gigantic sports complex, on land that the City didn't even own, and had never even secured permission to build on from the actual owner.

The contract for the construction went to a small nickle and dime contractor, a family freind, who somehow parlayed the contract to become one of the largest private construction companies in Alaska. He also generated enough profit to remodel the Palin home in Wasilla, for the price of the materials, at no cost whatsoever to the Palin family.

This resulted in seven years of litigation for the City, and ended up costing almost $2.5 million in taxpayer money to settle. The Sports complex now stands empty and unused, needs a new roof and has no equipment for actually playing sports in. the City is on the hook for nearly $12 million in liabilities of legal fees and the bills incurred by issuing the bonds that paid for this sports complex, which were defaulted on.

When she was elected to the Governors seat in Alaska, her rival, Frank Murkowski had spent several tens of millions of dollars litigating against Exxon, a company that had spilled oil on one of the richest fishing grounds on the West Coast of the continent, completely destroying it.

The State had won the lawsuits and was trying to get Exxon to settle out for the several $Billions the courts had ordered them to pay for damages. She campaigned on the need for "fiscal responsibility" accusing her rival of squandering state funds on useless bridges and crony contracts for road construction and State buildings, and won the office pretty much by outspending Murkowski almost 3-1. The biggest contributors to her campaign? Exxon, Bechtel and Dynegy.

She immediatly dropped all opposition to Exxons appeal, and settled for less than 5% of the amount of the original lawsuit that the State had ALREADY WON IN COURT. She had the full backing on the settlement from the Bush White House, had closed-door meetings with Exxon representatives and Bush administration officials in which the States Attorneys weren't even privy.

She's a flim-flam artist, a liar, and an corporatist asshole of the highest order. She quit the governors office because she stood zero chance of being re-elected, and quite possibly indicted for her shennaigans with Bechtel and Exxon.
 
2010-04-18 10:12:17 AM
Alien Robot: Sabyen91: Quick, Alien, change the subject!!!!

There's no change of subject there. The answer to both questions is the same. It's the Socratic method of debate. [Most] Tea-partiers aren't racist and most anti-war protesters weren't seriously accusing Bush of lacking human DNA. It's that they are using an abusive ad hominem attack instead of a real argument. The parallel question was an attempt to lead to you that understanding without overtly saying so. My failure is in not realizing that it's Saturday night, so you are at home in your basement on Fark drunk/high [circle correct answer] instead of out with friends enjoying life, so not only are you an angry loser with no friends, you are too drunk/high [circle correct answer] to follow a logical argument. Sorry.

/came home early myself
//went to see friend's new iPad. Way cool BTW




I tend to agree with you. You did a nice change of subject though. No one was talking about the lib-tards and their anti-bush campaign. We were specifically addressing claims that many of the tea party rallies are filled with racist anti-Obama posters.

With the history of how race was (and still is, in some places) presented here in America, portraying a black man as a monkey is much more offensive than portraying a white man in the same way.

By changing the subject back to the anti-Bush protests, you're suggesting that if they both do it, it's ok, or that somehow these tea-baggers are less despicable. I never commented about those earlier protests because they're not the subject at issue here.

...For the record, though, I despise the liberal protesters who lose the message equally as much as the conservatives.
 
2010-04-18 10:13:09 AM
thamike: dwh1963: There is some, I suppose.

Yep. There is some. That's what people are talking about. Some irrational hatred.


But they're pretending there's far more than actually exists.
 
2010-04-18 10:15:16 AM
WhyteRaven74: dwh1963: Why? Does that make the irrational hatred of conservatives okay?

Sullivan, who is a conservative, was hated on by people calling themselves conservatives. The one actual conservative gets hated on by the very people who claim to fit into the same camp. Instead of listening to him they trash him. And the only reason that presents itself as for why this happens is that he's gay.


Ahhh. The old "They're all homophobes!" tropism. With the bonus "the only true conservative" tossed in for good measure.
 
2010-04-18 10:19:45 AM
buckler: Liberals and progressives are always bad. Because liberty and progress are always bad.

Liberals haven't been about liberty in a long time. They want greater and greater government control of individual lives.

And progressives want the US to "progress" to the condition of the USSR circa 1958.
 
2010-04-18 10:21:54 AM
Alien Robot: atheist1295: if these protests are really just about government spending, then why are protesters holding signs that make note of his race in various different ways? Why are they telling him to go back to Kenya? What the fark do any of those things have to do with his ability to lead.



If the anti-war protests were just about the senselessness of war, then why did liberals hold up protest signs comparing Bush to a chimp?


That's different. Somehow. It just is. Shut up, you racist!


Did I get that right, Fark leftists?
 
2010-04-18 10:26:46 AM
dwh1963: Did I get that right, Fark leftists?

Only if you are completely ignorant of the history of racism in the US, which, it appears that you are, and proud of it.
 
2010-04-18 10:26:53 AM
nmemkha: BTW, it can't be racism.

Several of my Tea Party sympathizing relatives have told me they have no problems with "a n*gger in the White House."

/Some of my extended family are red-necks
//My grandfather used to tell me, "Work with vigor or they will replace you with [an educated black man]."
///Thank God, I escaped their racist indoctrination


And my die-hard Democrat in-laws refused to vote for the "n*gger".
 
2010-04-18 10:28:40 AM
Cup_O_Jo: tuna fingers: Cup_O_Jo: tuna fingers: Cup_O_Jo: fatassbastard: Cup_O_Jo:
UM---GALLUP POLL YOU MORON.

UM---GALLUP POLL says that tea baggers are MORE LIKELY to be white. And most likely FAT. AND undoubtably DUMB. YOU farkING MORON.

Here's the link you couldn't provide:
Link that Cup_O_Jo was too cowardly to provide (new window)

You're such an illiterate asshole--IT WAS IN 3 of the articles I cited. BUT THANKS FOR PLAYING, jackass.

FTFY.
 
2010-04-18 10:29:27 AM
cuzsis: Soymilk: House of Tards: absolutely_fabulous: FishingWithFredo: So dissent isn't the highest form of patriotism?

And community organizing is now bad?

It is if you don't agree with their world view.

And it also seems that while falsely accusing people of racism, it is OK to be ageist.

"Falsely"
[picture of old man holding sign "Show us your smallpox vaccination"]
That is a lot of liberal plants.
I don't get it...someone help me.

I don't either.

Most of those signs seem to be referring to the controversy over whether or not Obama was born in the US and thus eligible for the presidency.

But apparently, folks here think they are racist instead.


I've been repeatedly assured that any criticism at all of Obama is due to racism.
 
2010-04-18 10:35:25 AM
Ikam: dwh1963: Did I get that right, Fark leftists?

Only if you are completely ignorant of the history of racism in the US, which, it appears that you are, and proud of it.


Not really. Are there people who dislike Obama because of the color of his skin? Yes, on both sides of the aisle.

But the vast majority of the dissatisfaction with Obama is due to his policies and actions.

But you don't have to defend his policies and actions when you claim all opposition is due to racism, are you?

It's intellectual laziness to make that claim.
 
2010-04-18 10:46:19 AM
dwh1963: But the vast majority of the dissatisfaction with Obama is due to his policies and actions.


What policies and actions? He has carried on and even expanded some of the policies Bush started, and much of the criticism leveled at him from the left is that he has taken almost no action even when he had the power to do so.
 
2010-04-18 10:52:08 AM
dwh1963: Ikam: dwh1963: Did I get that right, Fark leftists?

Only if you are completely ignorant of the history of racism in the US, which, it appears that you are, and proud of it.

Not really. Are there people who dislike Obama because of the color of his skin? Yes, on both sides of the aisle.

But the vast majority of the dissatisfaction with Obama is due to his policies and actions.

But you don't have to defend his policies and actions when you claim all opposition is due to racism, are you?

It's intellectual laziness to make that claim.


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Moreover, the vast majority of the dissatisfaction with Obama is NOT due to his policies and actions, it is due to the (D) next to his name. That's it. "My team" politics and the corporate media drive this discourse.
 
2010-04-18 10:53:01 AM
captain_heroic44 2010-04-17 04:55:27 PM
Teabaggers: ask your candidates what specific cuts they plan to make to the federal budget to bring it into balance. Guess what. You can't do it without cutting one or all of:

1) Social Security
2) Medicare
3) The military

THIS!
Sweet Chin Music: If the True 'Baggers want to be taken seriously, why don't they tell the racist morons to kick rocks? Your "valid arguments" might mean something if we didn't have to wade through a wall of pure stupid.

and THIS!

I actually agree with their "would-be" message. Our government spending is out of control, and our national debt is a joke. I don't support the health care package because it cost too much and does nothing to actually lower the cost of health care. A $20,000 treatment will still cost $20,000 under this law. But I also think Bush spent too much on the Iraq war, and in doing so, dropped the ball in Afghanistan.

It is also amazing how these people are so ready to fall on their swords and cry how they are being easily dismissed. But when pressed for arguments against things (like the new health care bill) all you get from them is "socialism" "Obamacare" "unconstitutional" "liberal." When you press them further, you get dismissed as being a "liberal."

The thing is, These people are so embarrassing that I want to change my views to not be associated with them. First, they need to learn to spell. Then they need to learn to present their arguments rationally. I have gotten some very liberal people to understand the problems and concerns with the new healthcare bill. But I never once used the words "Obamacare" or "Socialism."

I am actually confused. I thought the liberals were the crybaby irrational part of the political system. Now it is the conservatives.
Wait, what do you call a baby-boomer in the 1969? Leftist nut bag.
What do you call a baby-boomer in 2010? A rightwing nut bag.
Now I get it.
Its hardly a coincidence. And it isn't about left or right, its about the "baby" in the baby boomer.
 
2010-04-18 10:54:53 AM
atheist1295: dwh1963: But the vast majority of the dissatisfaction with Obama is due to his policies and actions.


What policies and actions? He has carried on and even expanded some of the policies Bush started, and much of the criticism leveled at him from the left is that he has taken almost no action even when he had the power to do so.


You really haven't been paying attention, have you?

Of course, informed people can't make the "it's all because of racism!!" screech.
 
2010-04-18 10:57:00 AM
TheBigJerk: dwh1963: Ikam: dwh1963: Did I get that right, Fark leftists?

Only if you are completely ignorant of the history of racism in the US, which, it appears that you are, and proud of it.

Not really. Are there people who dislike Obama because of the color of his skin? Yes, on both sides of the aisle.

But the vast majority of the dissatisfaction with Obama is due to his policies and actions.

But you don't have to defend his policies and actions when you claim all opposition is due to racism, are you?

It's intellectual laziness to make that claim.



Moreover, the vast majority of the dissatisfaction with Obama is NOT due to his policies and actions, it is due to the (D) next to his name. That's it. "My team" politics and the corporate media drive this discourse.


If people expect conservatives to jump on board a far left agenda, they're going to be disappointed.
 
2010-04-18 11:02:00 AM
Remember April 15th, 2009? Also remember the weekend before that when all across the country groups were meeting to "protest" that taxes were too high and to complain "generally" that the government was spending too much?

This despite the fact that:
1) People were paying taxes for the year before Obama had even taken office (2008).

2) The budget in place was that which had been requested and signed by Bush.


These new found "patriots" were out protesting, but Obama literally hadn't even done anything yet.

The tea party may have some good points, but they are nothing more than a thin veneer for impotent Republican rage.
 
2010-04-18 11:03:25 AM
dwh1963: atheist1295: dwh1963: But the vast majority of the dissatisfaction with Obama is due to his policies and actions.


What policies and actions? He has carried on and even expanded some of the policies Bush started, and much of the criticism leveled at him from the left is that he has taken almost no action even when he had the power to do so.

You really haven't been paying attention, have you?

Of course, informed people can't make the "it's all because of racism!!" screech.




I have been paying attention, and what I've seen from Obama is a whole lot of nothing. The Healthcare bill that finally got through was basically a handout to the private insurance industry. His attempts at reconciliation with the right (when he didn't have to) filled the bill with Republican ideas.

He also continued the bailouts which started under Bush.

He's been a total pussy when it's come to enforcing the mandate given to him by the people, and yet everyone on the right criticizes him for being an out of control liberal.

I must be missing something here.
 
2010-04-18 11:06:02 AM
dwh1963: If people expect conservatives to jump on board a far left agenda, they're going to be disappointed.

Yes, but since the only far-left agenda is held by a handful of green-party folk, while democrats and Obama are actually center-right, that's not really an issue, is it?
 
2010-04-18 11:19:22 AM
dwh1963: But you don't have to defend his policies and actions when you claim all opposition is due to racism, are you?

It's intellectual laziness to make that claim.


Most people aren't making that claim, most people are making the claim that people who parade around HOLDING RACIST SIGNS are racist. It is very simple - the guy holding the sign that says "stop government spending" =/= not racist, the guy holding the sign photoshopping Obama's head on a New Guinea witch doctor or equating him to a monkey = racist.

It is equally intellectually lazy to not acknowledge this as well.
 
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