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(Ars Technica)   Congress outlaws spoofing your ID over cellular networks or the Internet. You guys should check this out, it's pretty interesting -- Drew   (arstechnica.com) divider line 44
    More: Interesting, cellular network, Congressional Research Service, VoIP, internet, CTIA, caller identification  
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2010-04-16 10:53:19 AM
I heard about this. But my enthusiasm is muted given the poor enforcement of the original Telecom Act and the subsequent DNC registry.

More feel good legislation?
 
2010-04-16 11:03:26 AM
Does this mean no more alts?

90% of farkers in the politics tab will disappear.
 
2010-04-16 11:05:20 AM
You know what? I don't think Drew submitted this link.
 
2010-04-16 11:06:52 AM
EvilEgg: You know what? I don't think Drew submitted this link.

Doesn't seem like his style.
 
2010-04-16 11:08:35 AM
EvilEgg: You know what? I don't think Drew submitted this link.

*that's the joke pic*
 
2010-04-16 11:18:45 AM
doublesecretprobation: *that's the joke pic*


Apparently for you?
 
2010-04-16 11:27:53 AM
Dammit, Kitwilly!
 
2010-04-16 11:30:15 AM
+1 Smitty.
 
2010-04-16 11:41:49 AM
Dancin_In_Anson: +1 Smitty.

Brown-noser!
 
2010-04-16 12:03:18 PM
Oh Jeebus, that sucks! At least they didn't make it a federal crime or attach a private cause of action to it. It will be interesting to see what the regulatory enactment will look like.

What a stupid, pointlees, worthless waste of legislation.
 
2010-04-16 12:14:29 PM
What do you think will happen first:

A. NASA lands astronaut on Mars
B. Someone is arrested for spoofing a caller ID
C. Bigfoot markets his own line of footcare products
D. US trade deficit turns to surplus
 
2010-04-16 12:18:41 PM
Sucks if you're the owner of one of those companies that sends out ad calls that look like they are coming from your friend.immediately
 
2010-04-16 12:20:45 PM
It's really hard to do now anyway. In 2002 not so much, but now there are so many checks and timed codes it's damn-nigh impossible.

At least in REAL cellular networks.
 
2010-04-16 12:21:08 PM
You heard the man! Ladies cannot check out this link.
 
2010-04-16 12:21:31 PM
...across the internets it's still pretty easy.
 
2010-04-16 12:23:44 PM
They wouldn't have put up with someone who spoofs his credentials in the Core.
 
2010-04-16 12:34:32 PM
dj_bigbird: Dammit, Kitwilly!

Well played.

WWKD?
 
2010-04-16 01:27:39 PM
Took me a bit, but
2wolves: Well played.
VERY well played.
 
2010-04-16 01:33:25 PM
It's not a big deal. Just don't break the law.

Steve

Sent from my iPhone
 
2010-04-16 01:36:03 PM
Does this stop the "Out of Area" calls three times a night that hang up and don't leave a message?
 
2010-04-16 01:38:06 PM
I'm curious to see how the telescammers will get around this one. After the DNC registry went into effect I started getting lots of 'Unknown Caller' calls, so I just blocked all those. Then came the spoofed ID's which I just let go to VM, they always just hang up.

On a side note. Fark you Comcast for selling my number to a telemarketer list the day it went live (the callers knew my name). It took about 3 weeks for the DNC to start working. Can't the telemarketing industry just die already?
 
2010-04-16 01:40:30 PM
Diogenes: More feel good legislation?

Exactly. This will be about as effective as a fart in a hurricane. The scammers already flout existing telemarketing laws as it is, so are they going to stop spoofing Caller ID? Fat chance.
 
2010-04-16 01:40:59 PM
So what does this mean for Google Voice? It uses Caller ID spoofing when it forwards calls to your phone so your caller ID shows the original caller instead of the google number the call is actually coming from.
 
2010-04-16 01:42:13 PM
I've been doing a lot of work in IVR systems, which make this astonishingly easy. I wonder if my API vendors are going to have significant changes?
 
2010-04-16 01:57:12 PM
Ok under this bill it's illegal for anyone to fake caller ID EXCEPT for Law enforcement Agencies?

Doesnt say anything about using proxy servers though
 
2010-04-16 02:05:04 PM
indinoheat: Ok under this bill it's illegal for anyone to fake caller ID EXCEPT for Law enforcement Agencies?

Doesnt say anything about using proxy servers though


And a good portion of the calls I get aren't false numbers. They're just blocked/anonymous.
 
2010-04-16 02:10:58 PM
TFA: The bill maintains an exemption for blocking one's own outgoing caller ID information, and law enforcement isn't affected.

Yeah yeah I know there's all sorts of laws that law enforcement is exempt from, but I still get a little creeped out every time I'm reminded.
 
2010-04-16 02:23:30 PM
bassett: So what does this mean for Google Voice? It uses Caller ID spoofing when it forwards calls to your phone so your caller ID shows the original caller instead of the google number the call is actually coming from.

Since the intent of altering the caller-ID information is not to deceive, but rather, to show who is actually calling, it would not likely be a problem.

\\I read TFA, but didn't bother with the PDF of the bill.
 
2010-04-16 02:28:21 PM
I've been saying this forever.- God
 
2010-04-16 02:34:37 PM
"The great thing about the internet is you can pretty much make stuff up and put a famous person's name after it and everyone will believe it." - Benjamin Franklin
 
2010-04-16 02:38:12 PM
so how do they plan on enforcing this?
 
2010-04-16 02:40:56 PM
The change will affect "any real time voice communications service, regardless of the technology or network utilized,"

Uhh, so do I have to give out my real name in Counter Strike now?
 
2010-04-16 02:45:25 PM
Ha! I'm behind 7 proxies exchanges.
 
2010-04-16 02:49:16 PM
And about five years late. -hoch
 
2010-04-16 03:02:31 PM
I choose "A". NASA will land a man on Mars.

/Do I get a prize?
 
hej
2010-04-16 03:25:27 PM
Fubegra: This will be about as effective as a fart in a hurricane.

Mind if I borrow that one?
 
2010-04-16 03:56:33 PM
Weaver95: so how do they plan on enforcing this?

That's a good question. Especially since they don't have any authority in other countries.
 
2010-04-16 04:18:56 PM
I was born with both.-Lady Gaga
 
2010-04-16 04:52:35 PM
Honestly, if this cuts down on robocallers and spambots, it's a good thing. Proxies are one thing, but outright forging information shouldn't even be possible and I'm constantly shocked at the numbers I see in Caller ID.
 
2010-04-16 05:06:13 PM
jutm543: It's not a big deal. Just don't break the law.

Steve

Sent from my iPhone




now, if we could just get telemarketers to follow those rules. those turds violate it all the time.
 
2010-04-17 12:46:26 AM
with the intent to defraud or deceive.

/meh, big deal
 
2010-04-17 01:43:09 AM
Gish21: The change will affect "any real time voice communications service, regardless of the technology or network utilized,"

Uhh, so do I have to give out my real name in Counter Strike now?


Still upset that you're named after your great-uncle Farkas?
 
2010-04-17 01:12:13 PM
-- Drew

I see what you did there...
 
2010-04-17 05:44:20 PM
hej: Mind if I borrow that one?

The term "a fart in a hurricane" isn't original to this thread. It goes back to at least 2004 when it was a line said by Charlie on Two and a Half Men.
 
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