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(Comic Book Movie)   So, Mickey Rourke is a crazy person, but we already knew that. What we didn't know was that he went way method to play Whiplash, going as far as to visit a Russian prison   (comicbookmovie.com) divider line 30
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2010-04-16 12:18:20 PM
No...we, having read all the minutae (That is, looking at the trivia (new window)page on IMDb.), already knew this.

We are also a gigantic nerd.
 
2010-04-16 12:19:50 PM
My great-grandfather spent 10 years in a Russian prison/work-camp. When he got out he came to the US so he COULD work in a coal mine. I don't think the man could smile. In fact, he had a frown/stare that would chill your bones.
 
2010-04-16 12:23:32 PM
There's a fantastic film about Russian prison tattoos called The Mark of Caïn that anyone at all interested in the subject should hunt down. Especially fascinating is how it addresses the ways in which the subculture of hierarchical prison tattoos changed drastically after the fall of the Soviet bloc and the influx of Capitalism, and how tattoos that were once earned can now be bought. Great film.
 
2010-04-16 12:23:32 PM
TO a Russian prison, submittard. Preview is your friend.
 
2010-04-16 12:23:42 PM
So if you go a number 1 that is pee, going a number 2 is poo, but what is going a Russian prison? Is that like doing your business in a walk in freezer while drinking vodka?
 
2010-04-16 12:43:00 PM
To use a horrible term, Kudos.

I liked the part where Mickey Rourke stated that he was impressed with Iron Man 1 for hiring Robert Downey Jr, when they "could have gone with some 20 year old suit-filler".

In other words, the Film's director and producer(s) are going after people who can bring substance - actors who genuinely can act.

Even cooler was Rourke going 'Ok - I'm playing this guy. Let's really research what that means' and off he goes to immerse himself in the actual culture.

This is how people really make things of substance. Unheard of today. Applying oneself? I don't think I've seen this in years.

/But then again Lucas would argue we could have just CGI'd the whole thing.
 
2010-04-16 12:48:39 PM
""In the story, the iron man suit(Arc Reactor) was invented by my father over in Russia and was stolen by Tony Stark's father and then my father spent his whole life feeling cheated and then died when he got out of prison," Rourke explains. "And so what I'm doing is avenging my father's death because of what was stolen from him.""

I thought Tony Stark created that, and that's what he used to create his first suit and all variations afterward.
However, I do admire the effort Mr. Rourke is putting into his character, that'll be the difference between Whiplash being taken seriously or just being another cliched movie super villain.
 
2010-04-16 01:00:43 PM
"I tried to incorporate the whole Russian philosophy. It's a culture of its own and I really enjoyed doing the research and meeting the people and they were very gracious there at the prison.

Sounds like Whiplash is going to be a pussy.

And I said 'well, I'd like to be able to speak Russian in the movie, I'd like to be able to use a Russian accent when I had to speak English and I also wanted to have a pet

A pet cockatoo isn't badass.
 
2010-04-16 01:10:16 PM
I read the Wikipedia page and learned of this some time ago. Still interesting.
 
2010-04-16 01:10:51 PM
Kurmudgeon: ""In the story, the iron man suit(Arc Reactor) was invented by my father over in Russia and was stolen by Tony Stark's father and then my father spent his whole life feeling cheated and then died when he got out of prison," Rourke explains. "And so what I'm doing is avenging my father's death because of what was stolen from him.""

I thought Tony Stark created that, and that's what he used to create his first suit and all variations afterward.
However, I do admire the effort Mr. Rourke is putting into his character, that'll be the difference between Whiplash being taken seriously or just being another cliched movie super villain.


Tony created the miniature version but the large version at stark enterprises is probably the one they're referring too.
 
2010-04-16 01:12:49 PM
he went way method

Is this mangled English, or some slang term I'm unaware of?
 
2010-04-16 01:15:50 PM
2chris2: he went way method

Is this mangled English, or some slang term I'm unaware of?


Method acting. (new window)
 
2010-04-16 01:16:03 PM
Method Acting:

Method acting is a phrase that loosely refers to a family of techniques by which actors try to create in themselves the thoughts and emotions of their characters in an effort to develop lifelike performances. It can be contrasted with more classical forms of acting, in which actors simulate thoughts and emotions through external means, such as vocal intonation or facial expression. Though not all Method actors use the same approach, the "method" in Method acting usually refers to the practice, advocated by Lee Strasberg, by which actors draw upon their own emotions and memories in their portrayals, aided by a set of exercises and practices including sense memory and affective memory.

Method actors are often characterized as immersing themselves in their characters to the extent that they continue to portray them even offstage or off-camera for the duration of a project. However, this is a popular misconception. While some actors have employed this approach, it is generally not taught as part of the Method.

Method acting has been described as "revolutionizing American theater." While classical acting instruction "had focused on developing external talents," the Method was "the first systematized training that also developed internal abilities (sensory, psychological, emotional)."[1]

Method acting continues to evolve, with many contemporary acting teachers, schools, and colleges teaching an integrated approach that draws from several different schools of thought about acting.

Hopefully that clears up 'Going way Method' :)
 
2010-04-16 01:19:09 PM
johnnyboog: "I tried to incorporate the whole Russian philosophy. It's a culture of its own and I really enjoyed doing the research and meeting the people and they were very gracious there at the prison.

Sounds like Whiplash is going to be a pussy.

And I said 'well, I'd like to be able to speak Russian in the movie, I'd like to be able to use a Russian accent when I had to speak English and I also wanted to have a pet

A pet cockatoo isn't badass.


michaelmanning.tv
 
2010-04-16 01:20:20 PM
I don't read the script. Script reads me.
 
2010-04-16 01:20:38 PM
www.erratica.us
could have just watched this gem to learn about Russian tats.
 
2010-04-16 01:25:34 PM
Mattevil: Kurmudgeon: ""In the story, the iron man suit(Arc Reactor) was invented by my father over in Russia and was stolen by Tony Stark's father and then my father spent his whole life feeling cheated and then died when he got out of prison," Rourke explains. "And so what I'm doing is avenging my father's death because of what was stolen from him.""

I thought Tony Stark created that, and that's what he used to create his first suit and all variations afterward.
However, I do admire the effort Mr. Rourke is putting into his character, that'll be the difference between Whiplash being taken seriously or just being another cliched movie super villain.

Tony created the miniature version but the large version at stark enterprises is probably the one they're referring too.



You forgot to mention that he built it in a CAVE with a box of SCRAPS!
 
2010-04-16 01:53:16 PM
This isn't unusual for Mickey. The story of how he prepped for his role as Jan the Actress for Steve Buscemi's "Animal Factory" is great - there's a short Special Features interview with Rourke on the DVD. He's awesome. And you should poke around Google for the photos of his visit to the prison. Like these ones (sorry, I don't know how to link): http://www.bestweekever.tv/2009-03-13/mickey-rourke-to-star-in-far-more-badass-f orrest-gump-remake/
 
2010-04-16 01:55:33 PM
Maybe this?

http://www.bestweekever.tv/2009-03-13/mickey-rourke-to-star-in-far-more-badass- f orrest-gump-remake/ (new window)Maybe this?
 
2010-04-16 01:56:18 PM
Or not. SIGH :)
 
2010-04-16 02:00:35 PM
I guess Los Angeles gets dull.
 
2010-04-16 02:08:09 PM
I don't care what kind of nut he his, I will watch every movie he ever makes and enjoy them all thoroughly. He is one of the best actors of the last 50 years.
 
2010-04-16 02:56:03 PM
I worked on the Paramount lot years ago, and they had a gym there available to any employee. I went there for a workout one day and had the place to myself except for one guy. Although it took me most of the time I was there to realize that it was Mickey Rourke, I was struck from the moment I got there that this person had "something." I guess its what people call star power or whatever. I ran into more than a few big time actors working on that job but that was the only time I ever registered someone's sheer presence in person.
 
2010-04-16 03:14:32 PM
I find that there is a large overlap area between crazy and awesome.
 
2010-04-16 03:25:08 PM
Tsar_Bomba1: johnnyboog: "I tried to incorporate the whole Russian philosophy. It's a culture of its own and I really enjoyed doing the research and meeting the people and they were very gracious there at the prison.

Sounds like Whiplash is going to be a pussy.

And I said 'well, I'd like to be able to speak Russian in the movie, I'd like to be able to use a Russian accent when I had to speak English and I also wanted to have a pet

A pet cockatoo isn't badass.


Looking at that picture now I find myself imagining the bird squawking "kill your wife" "kill your wife"
 
2010-04-16 07:33:51 PM
LeroyBourne: could have just watched this gem to learn about Russian tats.

Is it possible for that man to be bad in a movie?
 
2010-04-16 08:04:43 PM
Bored Horde: LeroyBourne: could have just watched this gem to learn about Russian tats.

Is it possible for that man to be bad in a movie?


Texas Chain Saw Massacre 3. I wept when I saw him in it.
 
2010-04-16 09:25:21 PM
Znuh: Method Acting:

Method acting is a phrase that loosely refers to a family of techniques by which actors try to create in themselves the thoughts and emotions of their characters in an effort to develop lifelike performances. It can be contrasted with more classical forms of acting, in which actors simulate thoughts and emotions through external means, such as vocal intonation or facial expression. Though not all Method actors use the same approach, the "method" in Method acting usually refers to the practice, advocated by Lee Strasberg, by which actors draw upon their own emotions and memories in their portrayals, aided by a set of exercises and practices including sense memory and affective memory.

Method actors are often characterized as immersing themselves in their characters to the extent that they continue to portray them even offstage or off-camera for the duration of a project. However, this is a popular misconception. While some actors have employed this approach, it is generally not taught as part of the Method.

Method acting has been described as "revolutionizing American theater." While classical acting instruction "had focused on developing external talents," the Method was "the first systematized training that also developed internal abilities (sensory, psychological, emotional)."[1]

Method acting continues to evolve, with many contemporary acting teachers, schools, and colleges teaching an integrated approach that draws from several different schools of thought about acting.

Hopefully that clears up 'Going way Method' :)


Heath Ledger went way, way, way, WAY WAY method, to the point that it pretty much keeled 'im. Channel an anarchistic, chaos-creator too too much and, well, you're toast.
 
2010-04-17 11:58:02 PM
LeroyBourne: could have just watched this gem to learn about Russian tats.

The absolutely best bit o' movie news I've read recently (actually within the past fortnight) is that Viggo is forestalling his own planned retirement from film to star for Mr. Cronenberg and Steven Kight in a continuation of that pictured film's storyline.
 
2010-04-17 11:58:56 PM
er, "Knight".
 
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