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2010-04-14 10:02:50 AM  
I'm GLaD they caught this while we're all still alive.
 
2010-04-14 11:02:43 AM  
Wow, this headline is so funny. Not.
 
2010-04-14 11:02:55 AM  
Poor vegans would hate to learn how much actual meat and other animal products are in their vegan meals.
 
2010-04-14 11:05:01 AM  
Well, you have to be bat crap crazy to deny evolution.
 
2010-04-14 11:08:19 AM  
And the toppings contain potassium benzoate.

/That's bad.
 
2010-04-14 11:12:13 AM  

awaken101: And the toppings contain potassium benzoate.

/That's bad.


Where is the science? I was expecting the science to come.

/science has come.
//will need a wetnap.
 
2010-04-14 11:12:37 AM  
uhm hexane is pretty volatile, which is why it is good for this sort of processing. Test show that the processed soy only has about 21 ppm hexane, which doesn't seem to be all that bad. Probably not too much worse than a lot of the chemicals in other processed foods.
 
2010-04-14 11:12:45 AM  
Lost Thought 00: Poor vegans would hate to learn how much actual meat and other animal products are in their vegan meals.

Do tell, All Knowing One.
 
2010-04-14 11:14:08 AM  
Oh also, the big thing with hexanes was that companies used to not be too careful about capturing/reusing them in the processing. There are now strict limits on its release into the environment which is a good thing.
 
2010-04-14 11:14:51 AM  
Ugh, veggie burgers... I haven't seen one yet that I can even stand within ten feet of. The odor those things permeate when they're cooked is atrocious..
 
2010-04-14 11:16:20 AM  
At least they're all-natural, free range neurotoxins.
 
2010-04-14 11:16:56 AM  
I try to reduce soy intake, particularly processed soy (that includes soy milk) to about zero. The estrogenic effects harm development when lifting weights as fat begins to deposit on areas more associated with female fat stores.

In addition many people cannot break down soy products that have not been fermented...the worst offender is soy milk...it causes massive gas for many people and they have NO idea, its the dirty secret of the soy industry (uncle is a soy farmer so I'm a little weary of getting down on soy but its sadly true what I wrote).


I'm dead serious about this.
 
2010-04-14 11:17:27 AM  
What cracks me up about it is that the #1 most genetically-modified crop is the soybean. Enjoy your frankentofu.
 
2010-04-14 11:19:39 AM  

iAdmin: Wow, this headline is so funny. Not.


You sound vegan.
 
2010-04-14 11:21:26 AM  

sendtodave: At least they're all-natural, free range neurotoxins.


THREAD OVER
 
2010-04-14 11:31:55 AM  
Vegan pro-tip: Learn to cook.
 
2010-04-14 11:36:39 AM  

Badfrog: iAdmin: Wow, this headline is so funny. Not.

You sound vegan.


You sound farkING DEAD, NEW FISH
 
2010-04-14 11:37:57 AM  
Not a whole lot of actual vegans who stick with it past the trendy, "born again" phase eat much of that processed crap. It sort of defeats the purpose.
 
2010-04-14 11:40:06 AM  
the good thing about fighting with a vegan is that you're guaranteed to win. they're so weak and scrawny it's almost unfair, really.
 
2010-04-14 11:41:32 AM  
I just read the ingredient label on the box of Garden Burgers in my freezer.
No Hexane mentioned. I think I'll have one for lunch.
 
2010-04-14 11:42:19 AM  
I figured out what that thing you just incinerated did. It was a Morality Core they installed after I flooded the enrichment center with a deadly neurotoxin to make me stop flooding the enrichment center with a deadly neurotoxin. So get comfortable while I warm up the Neurotoxin Emitters.

/Meh, I'm still eating my veggieburgers. No worse than hotdogs.
 
2010-04-14 11:43:44 AM  

iAdmin: You sound farkING DEAD, NEW FISH


if a lentil had a brain he'd kill us where we stand
/subby
 
2010-04-14 11:45:55 AM  
IIRC hexane is used to extract the oil from the beans.

If you were worried about hexane in your TSP, wait until they run the numbers on soybean oil.
 
2010-04-14 11:47:09 AM  
dry-cleaned soy beans... lol
explains so much as to why the THOUGHT of tofu makes me barf.
 
2010-04-14 11:51:46 AM  

chemical_angel: Lost Thought 00: Poor vegans would hate to learn how much actual meat and other animal products are in their vegan meals.

Do tell, All Knowing One.


Link for the lazy one (new window)
 
2010-04-14 11:52:18 AM  

Pinner: I just read the ingredient label on the box of Garden Burgers in my freezer.
No Hexane mentioned. I think I'll have one for lunch.


It is a processing aid so you wouldn't necessarily find it on the ingredients label.

Not saying yours has Hexane, just that the ingredients label isn't the definitive guide to what was used to make your food.
 
2010-04-14 12:02:03 PM  
Lost Thought 00: chemical_angel: Lost Thought 00: Poor vegans would hate to learn how much actual meat and other animal products are in their vegan meals.

Do tell, All Knowing One.

Link for the lazy one (new window)


So a small testing of a few trendy LA restaurants is enough to justify a broad, sweeping statement. Got it.
 
2010-04-14 12:13:24 PM  

lajaunie: I try to reduce soy intake, particularly processed soy (that includes soy milk) to about zero. The estrogenic effects harm development when lifting weights as fat begins to deposit on areas more associated with female fat stores.

In addition many people cannot break down soy products that have not been fermented...the worst offender is soy milk...it causes massive gas for many people and they have NO idea, its the dirty secret of the soy industry (uncle is a soy farmer so I'm a little weary of getting down on soy but its sadly true what I wrote).

I'm dead serious about this.


FUD

genzoman: the good thing about fighting with a vegan is that you're guaranteed to win. they're so weak and scrawny it's almost unfair, really.


Mac Danzig begs to differ.
 
2010-04-14 12:16:30 PM  

Mentalpatient87: Ugh, veggie burgers... I haven't seen one yet that I can even stand within ten feet of. The odor those things permeate when they're cooked is atrocious..


Have you tried Morning Star brand? That's my favorite brand and they have yet to come out with anything I don't like - in fact they got rid of my absolute favorite product :( mini corn dogs.

They even make vegetarian McRib patties.
 
2010-04-14 12:18:32 PM  

Ball of Confusion: What cracks me up about it is that the #1 most genetically-modified crop is the soybean. Enjoy your frankentofu.


You can buy Non-GMO. I always lul when I buy tofu from my local Super Hippie Organic Store because they don't sell non-GMO, while the "Big Box" grocery only stocks non-GMO tofu.

Unfortunately and as a matter of course, GMO tofu is cheaper :(
 
2010-04-14 12:45:20 PM  

The_Homeless_Guy: uhm hexane is pretty volatile, which is why it is good for this sort of processing. Test show that the processed soy only has about 21 ppm hexane, which doesn't seem to be all that bad. Probably not too much worse than a lot of the chemicals in other processed foods.


Which isn't a very large problem for things you cook before eating. However for infant formula? Guess what nobody does direct research on -- chemical effects on infants.

And now my co-workers are wondering why I'm laughing :(
 
2010-04-14 12:45:52 PM  

Lost Thought 00: chemical_angel: Lost Thought 00: Poor vegans would hate to learn how much actual meat and other animal products are in their vegan meals.

Do tell, All Knowing One.

Link for the lazy one (new window)


That link made me hungry :(
 
2010-04-14 12:47:21 PM  

iAdmin: Wow, this headline is so funny. Not.


Says a guy with the fark name iAdmin
 
2010-04-14 12:47:55 PM  
I'm not a vegetarian, but I actually really, really like the taste of a well prepared, grilled Boca-burger... this article makes me sad, as the only one safe are marked "organic" and I hate all things marked "organic".
 
2010-04-14 12:49:27 PM  

chemical_angel: Not a whole lot of actual vegans who stick with it past the trendy, "born again" phase eat much of that processed crap. It sort of defeats the purpose.


sorry but this is complete bullshiat. I have a ton of vegetarian and vegan friends, many who have been either one for almost a decade at this point, and the majority of them chow down processed fake meats on the regular.

People are lazy, no matter what their diet.
 
2010-04-14 12:52:31 PM  

featherspy: Mentalpatient87: Ugh, veggie burgers... I haven't seen one yet that I can even stand within ten feet of. The odor those things permeate when they're cooked is atrocious..

Have you tried Morning Star brand? That's my favorite brand and they have yet to come out with anything I don't like - in fact they got rid of my absolute favorite product :( mini corn dogs.

They even make vegetarian McRib patties.


Why do vegans form their soy into meat shapes?
 
2010-04-14 12:52:35 PM  

Ashelth: However for infant formula? Guess what nobody does direct research on -- chemical effects on infants


The entire baby boomer generation was raised on formula. they seem to be living healthy and altogether too long
 
2010-04-14 01:02:04 PM  
I made a double-patty veggie black bean burger melt with grilled mushrooms for dinner yesterday, and I feel fine. and I feel fine.


/and I feel fine.
 
2010-04-14 01:05:14 PM  

lajaunie: In addition many people cannot break down soy products that have not been fermented...the worst offender is soy milk...it causes massive gas for many people and they have NO idea, its the dirty secret of the soy industry (uncle is a soy farmer so I'm a little weary of getting down on soy but its sadly true what I wrote).


Soy does give some people gas, because it's a BEAN. Beans are somewhat infamous for causing gas. They have lots of fiber. In contrast, dairy also causes gas, but that's because you're consuming a product meant exclusively for newborn calves. We were never meant to ingest cows milk, so drinking enough of it, even people who have never had lactose sensitivity, will cause indigestion.
 
2010-04-14 01:12:36 PM  
Thankfully they don't have the Masala Burgers on the list. Oh I love me some Masala Burgers.

Indian spice goodness.
Low in fat.
Can add ketchup at will.
 
2010-04-14 01:30:10 PM  

albo: Ashelth: However for infant formula? Guess what nobody does direct research on -- chemical effects on infants

The entire baby boomer generation was raised on formula. they seem to be living healthy and altogether too long


The link below discusses stuff relevant to my comment.

http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/ar/archive/jan04/soy0104.htm
 
2010-04-14 01:46:09 PM  

schattenteufel: I made a double-patty veggie black bean burger melt with grilled mushrooms for dinner yesterday, and I feel fine. and I feel fine.


/and I feel fine.


the black bean burgers are pretty damn good, and i'm not a vegan.

/but i am fat
 
2010-04-14 01:58:29 PM  

Dangl1ng: Thankfully they don't have the Masala Burgers on the list. Oh I love me some Masala Burgers.

Indian spice goodness.
Low in fat.
Can add ketchup at will.


Made with Canola oil, which is pretty much you're getting GM food. Then there's Canola's dirty secret: They test it for erucic acid before they take the stink out of it by cooking it at high temperatures and pressures. Erucic acid is what caused the FDA to ban rapeseed oil ("oilseed rape", "rape", "rape oil") in the first place and why the CANadians bred a (Oil) Low-Acid cultivar in the first place. They paid off the FDA to declare it a GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) food product, even though it was something brand-spanking-new.

It's cheap.

It's owned by Monsanto.

It's in nearly everything.
 
2010-04-14 01:59:41 PM  

Heist: lajaunie: In addition many people cannot break down soy products that have not been fermented...the worst offender is soy milk...it causes massive gas for many people and they have NO idea, its the dirty secret of the soy industry (uncle is a soy farmer so I'm a little weary of getting down on soy but its sadly true what I wrote).

Soy does give some people gas, because it's a BEAN. Beans are somewhat infamous for causing gas. They have lots of fiber. In contrast, dairy also causes gas, but that's because you're consuming a product meant exclusively for newborn calves. We were never meant to ingest cows milk, so drinking enough of it, even people who have never had lactose sensitivity, will cause indigestion.


1) You are retarded.
2) Human milk has 9% lactose. Cow's milk is under 5%. Thus by definition, cow milk is easier to metabolize than human milk with respect to lactase function.
3) Flatulence is caused by bacterial digestion of complex carbohydrates -- since bacterial metabolism produces methane as a by product (among others but this makes farts stinky). Thus, excessive gas production eating some foods indicates you have something screwed up with a normal metabolic pathway. Related to this is fructose tolerance -- why the first time you drink grape juice after several months of not having any you get the shiats.
4) Fiber and lactose are both carbohydrates (sugars), our bodies metabolize a handful of carbohydrates effectively, and rely on bacteria to get energy from the rest.
5) You are stupid.
 
2010-04-14 02:00:22 PM  

Dangl1ng: Thankfully they don't have the Masala Burgers on the list.


Containing no soy, it's no surprise.
 
2010-04-14 02:05:31 PM  

BallsackConundrum: I figured out what that thing you just incinerated did. It was a Morality Core they installed after I flooded the enrichment center with a deadly neurotoxin to make me stop flooding the enrichment center with a deadly neurotoxin. So get comfortable while I warm up the Neurotoxin Emitters.

/Meh, I'm still eating my veggieburgers. No worse than hotdogs.


#I'm eating Boca and I'm still alive
 
2010-04-14 02:15:14 PM  

Heist: lajaunie: In addition many people cannot break down soy products that have not been fermented...the worst offender is soy milk...it causes massive gas for many people and they have NO idea, its the dirty secret of the soy industry (uncle is a soy farmer so I'm a little weary of getting down on soy but its sadly true what I wrote).

Soy does give some people gas, because it's a BEAN. Beans are somewhat infamous for causing gas. They have lots of fiber. In contrast, dairy also causes gas, but that's because you're consuming a product meant exclusively for newborn calves. We were never meant to ingest cows milk, so drinking enough of it, even people who have never had lactose sensitivity, will cause indigestion.


What were we "meant" to consume?
Were we "meant" to eat veggies? Meat? Our own young? The aged? Really small rocks?

Please please do turn this into an ID argument. It's Fark after all.
 
2010-04-14 02:19:54 PM  
Veganism is a 1st world luxury.
 
2010-04-14 02:22:46 PM  

fenrael23: Veganism is a 1st world luxury.


static.open.salon.com
/whoops..dropped the pic...
 
2010-04-14 02:31:06 PM  

tototototo: I'm GLaD they caught this while we're all still alive.


What you did there

/I see it
 
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