If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(CNN)   "The American fear of science is going to kill us"   (cnn.com) divider line 300
    More: Interesting  
•       •       •

17290 clicks; posted to Main » on 13 Apr 2010 at 6:43 PM (4 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



300 Comments   (+0 »)
   

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | » | Last | Show all
 
2010-04-13 05:01:04 PM
Fear is a large part of people's denial.

A more worrisome part, IMHO, are entrenched business interests that don't want progress messing with their bottom lines.

Worst is when the latter prey upon and use the former.
 
2010-04-13 05:09:19 PM
I don't fear science or technology, just how it's used and by whom.
 
2010-04-13 05:13:33 PM
SCIENCE IS GOING TO KILL US?? ZOMG!
 
2010-04-13 05:24:31 PM
That article is f*cking trash.

Really? Americans fear vaccines? We invented them you sh*tfark.

Take a look at Africa where they cure people with witch doctors. Take a look at the Saudis that sentenced a man to death for sorcery.

This writer is a twit.
 
2010-04-13 05:24:34 PM
My cat was genetically modified and she's the best cat I ever had.

Tastes like chicken.
 
rmz
2010-04-13 05:26:42 PM
 
2010-04-13 05:29:23 PM
GaryPDX: I don't fear science or technology, just how it's used and by whom.

You don't need to worry your pretty little head about those things. Seriously, care about landing science first then care about ensuring that ethics are applied to applied sciences.
 
2010-04-13 05:33:37 PM
subby: "The American fear of science is going to kill us"

www.zuguide.com

WHEN?!?!?!?!?!
 
2010-04-13 05:33:54 PM
greenz: Really? Americans fear vaccines? We invented them you sh*tfark.

Not really.
 
2010-04-13 05:35:12 PM
greenz
That article is f*cking trash.

Really? Americans fear vaccines? We invented them you sh*tfark.


Wow, someone's defensive today. There is now a substantial anti-vaccine movement in this country and elsewhere and yes, this movement is anti-science and really farking stupid.

Take a look at Africa where they cure people with witch doctors. Take a look at the Saudis that sentenced a man to death for sorcery.

Other countries are worse in their embrace of the irrational, therefore America is the awesome! That seems to be your logic here.

This writer is a twit.

That may or may not be true, but nothing in your little rant suggests it. The writer makes good points. The paranoia about genetically modified foods is widespread and has no basis in the evidence. The extremely common view, rampant in the US despite our scientific achievements and education level, that evolution isn't true is asinine and embarrassing. People in this country should know better.
 
2010-04-13 05:47:18 PM
I don't get vaccines because my body generates its own antibodies. And they work.

And I'm a lush.
 
2010-04-13 05:47:34 PM
greenz:
Really? Americans fear vaccines? We invented them you sh*tfark.

Did you fail history or geography?
 
Bek
2010-04-13 05:51:57 PM
patrick767: The paranoia about genetically modified foods is widespread and has no basis in the evidence.

Not to nickpick, but I really don't like this example. Our understanding of nutrition science in general is really poor and changes every few years.
 
2010-04-13 05:54:51 PM
tototototo: greenz:
Really? Americans fear vaccines? We invented them you sh*tfark.

Did you fail history or geography?


Considering his entire post is of the "I am rubber you are glue" genre, I'd say he just failed.
 
2010-04-13 05:59:48 PM
I'm not worried. My homeopathic specialist/wellness advocate will keep me healthy.
 
2010-04-13 06:14:39 PM
thisdaydreamer: I'm not worried. My homeopathic specialist/wellness advocate will keep me healthy.

At least you're well hydrated

This fear isn't just going to kill us. It's going to rape the American economy first.

It's cutting off legitimate lines of scientific inquiry because they don't want to tread on "sacred" ground.
 
2010-04-13 06:42:53 PM
The American fear of science intelligence is going to kill us

FTFY
 
2010-04-13 06:45:11 PM
Oh, please.

/rolls eyes
 
2010-04-13 06:45:18 PM
greenz: That article is f*cking trash.

Really? Americans fear vaccines? We invented them you sh*tfark.

Take a look at Africa where they cure people with witch doctors. Take a look at the Saudis that sentenced a man to death for sorcery.

This writer is a twit.


Actually, vaccination was invented by a Edward Jenner, who was a brit.
 
2010-04-13 06:45:54 PM
blacktriangle.org

Sometimes science kills us. It's good to question everything.
 
2010-04-13 06:46:06 PM
I fear ignorance.
 
2010-04-13 06:46:28 PM
Farking magnets, how do they work?!?!?!
 
2010-04-13 06:46:38 PM
meat0918: At least you're well hydrated

Heh.

meat0918: This fear isn't just going to kill us. It's going to rape the American economy first.

It's cutting off legitimate lines of scientific inquiry because they don't want to tread on "sacred" ground.


Yeah. This. My parent's generation was taught that knowledge of science was necessary to keep the nation moving forward. What happened to that? I'm hardly a scientist, but I am routinely disgusted at the basic misunderstanding of science that becomes apparent when so many people open their mouths. It's not about scientific facts so much as a lack of understanding of the process.

Don't know the speed of light? Don't know the atomic number of plutonium? Not sure what bones are found in the human foot? Fine. Look it up if you need to know.

Basing a major life change on a single study with fifteen subjects? Dismissing all of science because doctors no longer believe things they were taught twenty years ago? Believing that the term "theory of evolution" refers to scientists not really knowing if evolution occurs? Declaring yourself allergic to radio waves because you had a series of headaches? Not so fine.
 
2010-04-13 06:47:16 PM
It's only the religious that truly fear science.
 
2010-04-13 06:47:28 PM
that article is hilarious:

"It doesn't seem to matter how often vaccines are proved safe or supplements are shown to offer nothing of value. When people don't like facts, they ignore them."

One can just as easily show that supplements are safe and vaccines offer nothing of value.
 
2010-04-13 06:48:08 PM
Science is correctly and truthfully about open-mindedness and skepticism, except when it is not open-minded and skeptical of its own premises.
 
2010-04-13 06:48:22 PM
PonceAlyosha
greenz: That article is f*cking trash.

Really? Americans fear vaccines? We invented them you sh*tfark.

Take a look at Africa where they cure people with witch doctors. Take a look at the Saudis that sentenced a man to death for sorcery.

This writer is a twit.

Actually, vaccination was invented by a Edward Jenner, who was a brit.


maochan.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-04-13 06:49:32 PM
tototototo: greenz:
Really? Americans fear vaccines? We invented them you sh*tfark.

Did you fail history or geography?


Pshaw. So what if China, or India or Turkey or England vaccinated people first. America invented those countries by going back in time with the time machine WE invent in the future. It's you liberal intellectuals who cant stand america being recognized for the good it does. If America was good enough for Jesus, its good enough for me.
 
2010-04-13 06:49:35 PM
Ah the fear of science and the use of technology.
The issue that unites the Greenpeace tards on the far left with the "don' wan no hormones in mah foood 'specially from da gubbmint" hicks on the far right.
 
2010-04-13 06:51:20 PM
skinink

Farking magnets, how do they work?!?!?!

It's pretty easy to learn, once you get the hang of it:

Opposite poles pull toward each other, identical poles push away.

This works for any magnet. Try it and see!
 
2010-04-13 06:51:35 PM
studebaker hoch: I fear ignorance.

The only thing I fear is fear itself.

My fear became recursive; now I am insane.
 
2010-04-13 06:54:19 PM
Brainmask

My fear became recursive; now I am insane.

Yo dog, we put some fear in your fear so you can be afraid when you're afraid.

/opening riff from "cult of personality" goes here.
 
2010-04-13 06:54:45 PM
greenz: Take a look at Africa where they cure people with witch doctors. Take a look at the Saudis that sentenced a man to death for sorcery.

I know, right? Yesterday my roommate was saying that the garbage smelled, and I said shut the hell up, smell the cat box!
 
2010-04-13 06:55:03 PM
T.rex: that article is hilarious:

"It doesn't seem to matter how often vaccines are proved safe or supplements are shown to offer nothing of value. When people don't like facts, they ignore them."

One can just as easily show that supplements are safe and vaccines offer nothing of value.


Well, go on then.
 
2010-04-13 06:57:44 PM
This article is an example of "science" being viewed as the new religion ... unquestionable and not subject to inquiry by the unwashed masses. Yes, let us take our science on faith. Certainly "science" has our best interests at heart and is never wrong, never manipulated by industry for its own selfish purposes, by academics to make their reputations and never, never destructive to people, animals or the planet.

Do not worship science or scientists. They are just people and subject to all of the weakness and foibles of human beings. Maintain your skeptical mindset, ask questions, get second opinions and hold science accountable when necessary.


Questioning scientific pronouncements does not make you a Luddite. It makes you an intelligent member of this society.
 
2010-04-13 06:59:13 PM
"The American fear of science is going to kill us"

No shiat, Sherlock. People LOVE science when it leads to new and awful ways to kill brown people, or generate electricity harmlessly from the farts of passing whales, or set their broken arm without them shiatting themselves from the pain. They just don't love science when it

a) tells them that a magic herb or process is not going to effortlessly cure their complex medical disorder,
b) tells them their child, or their species, is in no way extraordinary, but is in fact a lot like all the other children/species out there,
c) tells them that their lifestyle choices will lead to significant damage to the only planet we're currently qualified to live on
d) does something that is described in the general press as sounding vaguely like the plot of a bad 50's B-movie involving giant spiders

... and so on. Sorry, peeps, science isn't the Bible, you don't get to choose which parts are The Truth, and which are just a loose metaphor so Jesus really liked people getting rich.

So if you reject evolution, or vaccination, or global climate change... go out back and live in a thatched hut in the woods. Except even that was some caveman's great engineering discovery back in the day, you ass, so just kill yourself and spare us your whining about the parts of science you don't like.
 
2010-04-13 06:59:14 PM
the only way to overcome this fear is for every True American to affix a sticker of Calvin pissing on science to their car
 
2010-04-13 07:00:12 PM
mtylerjr: tototototo: greenz:
Really? Americans fear vaccines? We invented them you sh*tfark.

Did you fail history or geography?

Pshaw. So what if China, or India or Turkey or England vaccinated people first. America invented those countries by going back in time with the time machine WE invent in the future. It's you liberal intellectuals who cant stand america being recognized for the good it does. If America was good enough for Jesus, its good enough for me.


...and since i can't disprove your theory, it is automatically equally valid to any other, and I therefore declare it good science.
 
2010-04-13 07:02:10 PM
studebaker hoch: /opening riff from "cult of personality" goes here.

Actually the "only thing we have to fear is fear itself" sound clip is at the end of the song. The song starts with Malcolm X saying "And in the last few moments that we have left, we want to talk right down to Earth, in a language that everyone here can easily understand"
 
2010-04-13 07:02:28 PM
greenz: Really? Americans fear vaccines? We invented them you sh*tfark.

Not nearly enough people have laughed at you for this failure of a comment yet.
 
2010-04-13 07:03:28 PM
Non-paralytic polio cases
1951-1960 70,083
1961-1982 589
1983-1992 0

Aseptic meningitis cases
1951-1960 0
1961-1982 102,999
1983-1992 117,366

Polio was never 'eradicated'... during the 50's, the government reclassified it some dozen time until finally doctors were no longer able to give a polio diagnosis.

Whatever polio is or was, its still very much alive today in: Guillian-Barré syndrome (which is what Roosevelt had), MS, ALS, Eppstein Barr, general palsy...

Nothing went away!, and Polio is probably the main reason stupid American believe in vaccines!
 
2010-04-13 07:05:02 PM
Retinue: This article is an example of "science" being viewed as the new religion ... unquestionable and not subject to inquiry by the unwashed masses. Yes, let us take our science on faith. Certainly "science" has our best interests at heart and is never wrong, never manipulated by industry for its own selfish purposes, by academics to make their reputations and never, never destructive to people, animals or the planet.

Do not worship science or scientists. They are just people and subject to all of the weakness and foibles of human beings. Maintain your skeptical mindset, ask questions, get second opinions and hold science accountable when necessary.


Questioning scientific pronouncements does not make you a Luddite. It makes you an intelligent member of this society.


Being open minded is one thing. Parading around closed mindedness as open minded is another.

You don't have to "worship science" to understand that the theory of evolution is supported by the evidence.

You don't need to praise scientists to see that as vaccination rates decrease, incidence of that disease the vaccination helps prevent increases.

We do need people to understand the difference between healthy skepticism and outright denialism.
 
2010-04-13 07:05:13 PM
I laugh at people that say science has the answer for everything. Science is just one of the gifts from god, passed down to man. How we use it is our choice, but it's important not to forget that ultimately a power greater than any man sets the rules and watches how we excercise our gifts.
 
2010-04-13 07:07:09 PM
If you fear science, then don't go to the doctor when you are sick.

Probably will resolve itself. Naturally. Selectively.
 
2010-04-13 07:08:09 PM
rppp01a: If you fear science, then don't go to the doctor when you are sick.

Probably will resolve itself. Naturally. Selectively.


But then that person bites two people, then they bite two people, and so on, and so on, and it's World War Z all over again.
 
2010-04-13 07:08:37 PM
Isn't it ironic that CNN is the LEAST reliable source of news yet probably the most popular?

It is the biggest propaganda machine in the world.
 
2010-04-13 07:09:06 PM
Writer is a bufoon. This country has always loved science.
 
2010-04-13 07:09:08 PM
Retinue: This article is an example of "science" being viewed as the new religion ... unquestionable and not subject to inquiry by the unwashed masses. Yes, let us take our science on faith. Certainly "science" has our best interests at heart and is never wrong, never manipulated by industry for its own selfish purposes, by academics to make their reputations and never, never destructive to people, animals or the planet.

Do not worship science or scientists. They are just people and subject to all of the weakness and foibles of human beings. Maintain your skeptical mindset, ask questions, get second opinions and hold science accountable when necessary.


Questioning scientific pronouncements does not make you a Luddite. It makes you an intelligent member of this society.
God did it.
 
2010-04-13 07:09:56 PM
T.rex: anti-vax whargarbl

Can't you get a new schtick?
 
2010-04-13 07:10:47 PM
tototototo: greenz: Really? Americans fear vaccines? We invented them you sh*tfark.

Did you fail history or geography?


Edward Jenner lived in England, which Jesus used as His vessel to create the Promised Land, America.

It is no coincidence that the British Empire took a nosedive after bringing America to fruition. The butterfly, once fully formed, no longer needs the dried-out husk of its chrysalis. It was all God's Intelligent Historical Design, despite what the liberal activist revisionist history teachers might have taught you.

England = proto-America.

So he's right, you sh*tfark.

And we don't fear vaccines at all.

We just think that abstinence from alcohol, tobacco, drugs, gambling, rock and rap music, dancing, sex before marriage, and other sinful behaviors are infinitely superior to being injected by autism-causing chemicals created by evolutionist scienticians, that will supposedly protect us from *finger quotes* invisible critters that only the scienticians with their big-city book smarts and sciency machines can see *finger quotes*.
 
Displayed 50 of 300 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | » | Last | Show all



This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report