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(News12.com)   New York lawmakers to allow liquor stores to open on Sundays. Ted Kennedy plans to relocate   (news12.com ) divider line
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2003-05-03 10:11:11 AM  
Bars are open until 4a.m. and now liquor stores are open on Sundays.Sounds like an alcoholics paradise.
 
2003-05-03 10:54:14 AM  
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2003-05-03 01:16:23 PM  
Sounds like an alcoholics paradise.

Just so long as you're not an alcoholic smoker.
 
2003-05-03 01:23:46 PM  
More proof that God hates me. Everytime I try to quit drinking something like this happens.
 
2003-05-03 02:00:36 PM  
Good to see the alcohol lobbyists are taking up the slack from the persona non grata tobacco lobbyists.
 
2003-05-03 02:01:25 PM  
Bans on Sunday booze sales are some of the most asinine things to me...I've never understood them, except from the standpoint that people who own and operate liquor stores would like to have a day off as much as anybody.
 
2003-05-03 03:10:39 PM  
Now the rest of the country needs to inact this.....C'mon, louisiana....PLease! I want to buy my bottle of Jack on Sundays..fark those blue laws!
 
2003-05-03 03:11:23 PM  
The Rockville Centre Diocese, however, argues that Sunday, the Christian Sabbath, is a day for worship and family togetherness, not a day for rushing around and running businesses.

Sounds like the best argument for Sunday sales...
 
2003-05-03 03:12:45 PM  
i can buy liquor on sundays but i have till wait until noon.(michigan)
 
2003-05-03 03:15:20 PM  
It's amazing how many states still have blue laws on the books. I'm glad to see some of them are being removed.
 
2003-05-03 03:17:03 PM  
Now if only bergen county would allow the damn malls and stores to open on Sundays.
 
2003-05-03 03:18:52 PM  
I hate the fundies. "OH NO, you can't sell alcohol or open early on Sunday because that might people from coming in and worshippin with the congregation!"
 
2003-05-03 03:22:35 PM  
Micah476
That's one of the reasons why, for example, in Germany all store hours are regulated by the government. It's also one of the most back-asswards things I can find about this country...

Of course there are exceptions, like bars and gas stations...
 
2003-05-03 03:25:51 PM  
I'll bet they still have to wait until noon to open on Sunday.
 
2003-05-03 03:28:24 PM  
You'd think a city like New York would have bars that are open Sundays!

Or is/was it a statewide ban?
 
2003-05-03 03:34:54 PM  
About farking time.
Outdated puritan bullshiat.
 
2003-05-03 03:38:08 PM  
HUH? Ive never heard of this but if its true it is seriously lame. This is unheard of in cali.
 
2003-05-03 03:39:39 PM  
BTW and who gives a fark about what the rockville diocese thinks. their beliefs should not affect people who dont believe the christian sabbath, which they use as their argument.
 
2003-05-03 03:40:19 PM  
And BTW, bars have been able to open and serve any alcohol on Sundays for a long time. And you can buy beer and wine coolers at other stores (super market, convience stores.) But liquor and wine sales have been prohibited (which are actuallty solf at liquor stores.) on Sundays. What the fark sense does that make?
-A practicing alcoholic (night this particular mintue anyway)
 
2003-05-03 03:41:36 PM  
However, if stores were to open on Sundays, they would still have to close for one day of the week.

As long as the local stores rotate their days off, everybody's happy, right?
 
2003-05-03 03:41:40 PM  
does may 5 fall on a sunday on '04?
 
2003-05-03 03:41:58 PM  
For those who are confused,
this is the State of New York we're talking about.
Not City of New York.

Only thing is that if any place chooses to be open on Sunday,
they'll have to close another day of the week.

The state is only doing this cause its out of money.
State Sales Tax is going upto 4.25% from 4%.
 
2003-05-03 03:43:57 PM  
Doccm9
Thanks, you've shown me the light or something. Uhh... cheers!
 
2003-05-03 03:44:32 PM  
(night this particular mintue anyway)
should read:
(not this particular minute anyway)

*(urp*
 
2003-05-03 03:46:16 PM  
Wuzupperson, in NYC, and all of NY state, the bars open at noon on Sunday, and you can buy beer at that time too. This is a booze issue.
 
2003-05-03 03:49:10 PM  
In other words, you can drink booze in a bar, or buy beer as of noon on Sunday, just can't purchase liquor from a store.

/'nuff said
 
2003-05-03 03:50:05 PM  
Warchild
Yeah, I realized that. It wouldn't really make sense, anyway, if all bars were closed one day of the week... :-)
 
2003-05-03 03:55:26 PM  
I love California you can buy liquor at super markets convience stores, gas stations & no stupid "blue" laws the only thing that sucks it just can buy between 2am and 6am
 
2003-05-03 03:56:09 PM  
Genesis 2:2 : And on the seventh day God finished his work which he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had done. And he got totally farkin' hammered. (Revised ComaToast Version)
 
2003-05-03 03:56:46 PM  
Wow, FARK is pretty slow right now. Back on topic: Is there actually any reason (except religious or the fact that store owners/employees don't want to work that day) why liquor stores are closed on Sundays in so many places?
 
2003-05-03 03:57:55 PM  
that should be can not buy between 2am & 6am
 
2003-05-03 03:58:16 PM  
...because drunk priests will have a harder time molesting children! ;-)
 
sos
2003-05-03 04:01:48 PM  
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2003-05-03 04:02:57 PM  
excellent..
 
sos
2003-05-03 04:03:14 PM  
You guys don't have bridges there in NY, do you?

*Chappaquiddick*
 
2003-05-03 04:17:02 PM  
Bmr68 Paradise nothing. This may be better than most states but the only reason there are restrictions at all are purely morality based. The government should not be telling anyone when they can and can't sell booze. Age restriction yes, but once a person is over twenty one they should be able to buy their liquor 24/7. We can buy porn 24/7, gamble 24/7, blog 24/7. We should be able to stock our bars 24/7.

/24/7,24/7,24/7
 
2003-05-03 04:18:48 PM  
****Back on topic: Is there actually any reason (except religious or the fact that store owners/employees don't want to work that day) why liquor stores are closed on Sundays in so many places?
****


Well, no. The reason in itself IS christianity. Youo know, cause God doesn't like you to drink on his day - except his own blood, that is - that's okay, but only if it's Grape Juice, and not the real thing, you know, cause liquor is evil, and evil leads to fornication, and fornication leads to hell, and hell leads to endless screams of horror as your flesh falls off of your body in charred chunks for all eternity.

In short, Drinking on Sunday will cause you to smoke a big wolf turd with the Devil.

The Blue Laws are becoming a thing of the past - although still in effect in some parts, especially in the South.
 
2003-05-03 04:26:27 PM  
Wuzup, no there isn't. It's strictly based on ths US's traditional puritan background (believe it or not.) This is a very old and pretty outdated justification. Especially since many people aren't church goers, as well as the fact that there are other religions that do not use sunday as the sabbath, such as Judiasm (sp?) and non-religious people (myself included.)
That said, guess what store I'm on my way to, to stock up for today and tomorrow.
 
2003-05-03 04:28:06 PM  
Electra225

So basically, drinking wine is okay, drinking beer is okay (because they're both sanctioned by the Church), but anything else is a downright horrible sin.

In any case, even if the reasons for a Sunday ban are religious, there are enough religions whose "holy day" is not Sunday -- Judaism and Islam, anyone? -- and enough people who practice them. What I'm trying to say is, I definitely agree with you on that one!
 
2003-05-03 04:29:30 PM  
Doccm9
Yeah, I know all of that already! I'm American, too. ;-) I asked the question for exactly that reason.
 
2003-05-03 04:59:37 PM  
The Rockville Centre Diocese, however, argues that Sunday, the Christian Sabbath, is a day for worship and family togetherness, not a day for rushing around and running businesses.

This obviously stems from one of the 10 commandments from Exodus 20:8-11: "Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."

The problem with enacting a biblical principle as law, though, is that the biblical punishment is kind of steep, as stated in Exodus 31:15: "For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD . Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death."

Perhaps this is why you see the list of 10 commandments, but never the list of 10 punishments.
 
2003-05-03 05:03:34 PM  
Believe or not, but there's still _dry_ towns in New York state. No bars, no liquor stores, no beer in the supermarket or convienience stores. My town (Williamson) was dry until about 6 months before I moved here.

I guess they heard I was coming, and wanted a piece of the action. Now they're building a whole new town hall... Hmmm.

:)
 
2003-05-03 05:08:30 PM  
Who said Sunday is the Sabbath day, anyway?

The Earth was obviously a weekend project, meaning everything started on Saturday afternoon in God's backyard. It continued for three more weekends, until God finally said "well, that's as good as it's going to get", and then rested... on the *fourth* Saturday.

At least, that's what *my* Bible says...

(BTW, the whole liquor store concept here in NYS is really weird to me. I come from Iowa, land of the Liquor Aisle in the grocery store. Having to make a seperate stop to pick up a bottle of wine is really weird. OTOH, the selection of your average NYS liquor store is much better than your average Iowan grocery store...)
 
2003-05-03 05:15:52 PM  
****Believe or not, but there's still _dry_ towns in New York state. No bars, no liquor stores, no beer in the supermarket or convienience stores. My town (Williamson) was dry until about 6 months before I moved here.***

Hell, I live in Texas. In some parts, you have to drive for an hour to get booze. I myself live in a dry county, and drive about 20 minutes to get to a liquor store.
 
2003-05-03 05:16:54 PM  
Phht! We've has Sunday Liquor Stores open right next door in Ontario for years now.

They are run by the Conservative Provincial governement here, who never seem to turn down a way to make money...

Down with blue laws!!!!!
 
2003-05-03 05:41:52 PM  
good. maybe now they'll finally repeal that unreasonable law against masturbating in church.
 
2003-05-03 05:47:02 PM  
Well if we don't control alcohol sales on Sunday, how can we enforce other economic prohibitions? How can we tell people not to sell or buy marijuana at any time? If it was regulated and taxed, how can we tell people not to sell sex? Where will it stop?

/searching for a wierd parrallel
 
2003-05-03 05:48:25 PM  
Oh, that 4 am thing is far from statewide, too. All the places around Syracuse close at 2.
 
2003-05-03 06:33:49 PM  
Many people who get together with family and friends during the weekend are supporting the idea, saying that it would be convenient and that it helps solidify the notion of separation of church and state. The Rockville Centre Diocese, however, argues that Sunday, the Christian Sabbath, is a day for worship and family togetherness, not a day for rushing around and running businesses.

So the people who say that removing the ban solidifies the notion of the separation of church and state are answered by a priest saying that it's the christian sabbath and you should be praying not drinking.

Me thinks the first group is right about that.
 
2003-05-03 06:33:52 PM  
Is the "logic" behind no-Sunday-alcohol-sales religious?

If so, why is the government enforcing religion on people?

If not, where's the logic?

/confused
 
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