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2010-04-06 02:42:55 AM  
fta Is there a word for the emotion you feel when something is really really cool and really really horrible at the same time?

DARPtastic!
 
2010-04-06 03:03:47 AM  
I want some of those bunker busters miniaturized and fence post sized. We can start a new business of aerial fence delivery.
 
2010-04-06 12:06:05 PM  
Is there a word for the emotion you feel when something is really really cool and really really horrible at the same time?

FARK?
 
2010-04-06 12:07:11 PM  
Falcon Punch?
 
2010-04-06 12:10:04 PM  
huh, i haven't seen the sarah conner meme used in months
 
2010-04-06 12:14:13 PM  
Old news is old. They've been using det-delayed munitions delivery for a while now. Since oh, about 1939.
 
2010-04-06 12:20:03 PM  
DARPA, finding new ways to blow up brown people
 
2010-04-06 12:26:31 PM  
[relevant xkcd strip]
 
2010-04-06 12:28:35 PM  
IdBeCrazyIf: DARPA, finding new ways to blow upblacken brown people

Tastier that way.
 
2010-04-06 12:30:29 PM  
I don't fear this technology. I welcome it.

If there's anything that the intense hatred and violence surrounding the healthcare debate has impressed upon me, it's that there's a minority population in this country with values and goals so contrary to human progress as to seem alien to the rest of us. They hate the concept of attempting to preserve the environment and spit on anyone who promotes it. They're intensely racist online, when they believe themselves to be anonymous, but coyly deny it in public (well, most of them. Others feel no such shame.) They reject the science behind AGW because it doesn't fit with their political biases, while accusing the science itself of political bias. They reject evolution, they either reject the big bang or insert their own provincial deity as a causal agent, they strive to oppress gays and women, and they actually oppose a united Humanity. They're still stuck in the Cold War mindset and view any progress away from the America they remember from their childhoods as part of a sinister communist plot, so they're determined to throw a wrench into the gears of any effort at improving general conditions, even though it would directly benefit them.

That's why none of the shiat in the article phases me. We can't have a better world so long as these people obstruct the path to it. Lately it seems as if they're itching for a civil war, and I welcome it. They can discover firsthand the efficacy of science at solving problems.
 
2010-04-06 12:30:52 PM  
See why your civil war isn't going to work, Tea Baggers? You're going to be fighting against anti-social nerds in a bunker full of Mountain Dew and Cheesies lighting your ass up with flying sniper bots armed with smart bullets protected with force fields, and scanners that spot your retina.

BOOM! HEAD SHOT!
 
2010-04-06 12:31:31 PM  
I find myself lol'ing at this. I do like Cracked articles :)
 
2010-04-06 12:31:36 PM  
How long before we create a beam that causes enemy soldiers to smack themselves in the face with thier own hands and rifle butts while 'Why do you keep hitting yourself?' is beamed directly into the auditory region of their brain?
 
2010-04-06 12:32:06 PM  
Zamboro: I don't fear this technology. I welcome it.

If there's anything that the intense hatred and violence surrounding the healthcare debate has impressed upon me, it's that there's a minority population in this country with values and goals so contrary to human progress as to seem alien to the rest of us. They hate the concept of attempting to preserve the environment and spit on anyone who promotes it. They're intensely racist online, when they believe themselves to be anonymous, but coyly deny it in public (well, most of them. Others feel no such shame.) They reject the science behind AGW because it doesn't fit with their political biases, while accusing the science itself of political bias. They reject evolution, they either reject the big bang or insert their own provincial deity as a causal agent, they strive to oppress gays and women, and they actually oppose a united Humanity. They're still stuck in the Cold War mindset and view any progress away from the America they remember from their childhoods as part of a sinister communist plot, so they're determined to throw a wrench into the gears of any effort at improving general conditions, even though it would directly benefit them.

That's why none of the shiat in the article phases me. We can't have a better world so long as these people obstruct the path to it. Lately it seems as if they're itching for a civil war, and I welcome it. They can discover firsthand the efficacy of science at solving problems.


Huh?
 
2010-04-06 12:34:09 PM  
find sarah palin.
 
2010-04-06 12:34:14 PM  
FTA: DARPA calls it the Iron Curtain, and it uses an invisible pulse to detonate shells before they can hit the vehicle.

Someone at DARPA played a little too much Command & Conquer: Red Alert.
 
2010-04-06 12:34:46 PM  
The sniper bomb's warhead consists of a "multiphase-blast explosive fill" made of DIME (Dense Inert Metal Explosive).

DIME is nasty, nasty stuff. Israel used it in the Gaza war last year, and if we ever have another Geneva Convention, it'll be right up there with white phosphorous.

Instead of creating typical shrapnel, it bursts into slivers only a millimeter or two in size. That means the shrapnel doesn't travel very far, which reduces collateral damage. It also means that if you're wounded by it, it's almost impossible to operate on. And the fragments are so small that they can get picked up by your blood stream and tear up your heart and lungs even if you only get nicked in the leg.
 
2010-04-06 12:35:00 PM  
ritalinchild 54: "Huh?"

Summary: "It would be pretty great if the teabaggers actually did attempt an armed revolution, if only because we'd get to see cutting edge military robots and armaments employed against them. Nothing of value would be lost, and the world would be improved by their passing."
 
2010-04-06 12:36:25 PM  
ritalinchild 54: Zamboro:

Huh?


tl;dr version: Disabuse yourself of the notion that you and your army of retards with 10-gauge shotguns are going to overthrow the government, as the DoD has access to many unique ways to hand your ass to you.
 
2010-04-06 12:47:49 PM  
Soon they won't have any reason whatsoever to hide their contempt for the citizens at all. Just remember: with total power comes total corruption.
 
2010-04-06 12:51:31 PM  
OK, here are some potential countermeasures that could be cheap:

1. Guided bullets: Bullets are ballistic. Any attempt to change their direction significantly will cause them to lose energy *FAST* due to increased friction. The tighter the turn, the greater the energy loss. These really aren't very scary. It's not like they can do a complete u-turn, or even change direction 90 degrees within the width of a typical city street.

2. Smart Grenades: It's called "overhead cover". It's been used to protect against airbursts since at least WWI.

3. The BOSS system: Hide the optics, or eyes, behind some kind of filter. There are already devices to prevent your rifle optics from 'flashing', and they would keep the BOSS system from detecting the scope unless the scope was pointed directly at it. Aim it away from the BOSS by just a few degrees, and the optics are completely masked. They only cost $20. As for the retinas, I imagine you could make glasses on the same principle, although you probably wouldn't need to because in practice the system would be subject to false alarms from wildlife, broken glass, scrap metal, friendlies, etc. and probably wouldn't be used in 'eyeball' mode. Plus, something as expedient as putting a pair of nylon stockings over your head would probably work, too (might also work with the rifle scope, but it will make the image darker)

4. Boomerang shot detection system: Audio shot detection systems like the Boomerang can be fooled by the same things that fool the human ear, like the bullet passing by a tree. Plus, subsonic supressed weapons would render the system completely useless.

5. The 'Iron Curtain' is completely useless against kinetic weapons, and also against those with old-fashioned percussion detonating mechanisms. It relies on the fact that RPG warheads have piezoelectric fuses. Make a warhead that operates on a different principle, like a simple percussion cap, and this system would be useless.
 
2010-04-06 12:53:16 PM  
How many of these systems actually work, and how many are horrendous boondoggles that require carefully rigged tests to be effective? Like that one guided missile that can just about hit a man standing very still in the middle of an empty parking lot.
 
2010-04-06 12:54:16 PM  
Zamboro: ritalinchild 54: "Huh?"

Summary: "It would be pretty great if the teabaggers actually did attempt an armed revolution, if only because we'd get to see cutting edge military robots and armaments employed against them. Nothing of value would be lost, and the world would be improved by their passing."


The paradigm isn't open battle against military forces, and hasn't been since about 1996.

Besides which, you don't have to have the ability to actually *WIN*, you just have to have the ability to make it expensive enough that the other side doesn't *TRY*.
 
2010-04-06 12:55:15 PM  
Bondith: How many of these systems actually work, and how many are horrendous boondoggles that require carefully rigged tests to be effective? Like that one guided missile that can just about hit a man standing very still in the middle of an empty parking lot.

Any sufficently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo.
 
2010-04-06 12:59:22 PM  
Hammertoe: "Soon they won't have any reason whatsoever to hide their contempt for the citizens at all. Just remember: with total power comes total corruption."

We do not live in a comic book. A glimpse inside the government does not reveal cackling despots, twirling their mustaches and discussing plans for the subjugation of the masses. It reveals bored government employees filling out paperwork necessary for social programs which benefit a toothless middle--American horde that suspects them of being tools of the Antichrist.
 
2010-04-06 01:11:08 PM  
I would think that a possible counter to the Boomerang one would be more sound - like a bunch of gunshot simulators. As far the BOSS - same idea - make lots of flashes. Overwhelm the system.

I will leave it to someone else to see if my theories work. I will say I am confident in my genius and I am pretty sure you'll be fine.
 
2010-04-06 01:12:18 PM  
Zamboro: Hammertoe: "Soon they won't have any reason whatsoever to hide their contempt for the citizens at all. Just remember: with total power comes total corruption."

We do not live in a comic book. A glimpse inside the government does not reveal cackling despots, twirling their mustaches and discussing plans for the subjugation of the masses. It reveals bored government employees filling out paperwork necessary for social programs which benefit a toothless middle--American horde that suspects them of being tools of the Antichrist.


What was that phrase used to describe Adolf Eichmann? Oh, yeah, "the banality of evil".
 
2010-04-06 01:20:53 PM  
Zamboro: We do not live in a comic book. A glimpse inside the government does not reveal cackling despots, twirling their mustaches and discussing plans for the subjugation of the masses. It reveals bored government employees filling out paperwork necessary for social programs which benefit a toothless middle--American horde that suspects them of being tools of the Antichrist.

Someone else works Public Sector!!

...here's have your complimentary daily fifth of whiskey required to get through the boredom!
 
2010-04-06 01:26:04 PM  
rattchett: I would think that a possible counter to the Boomerang one would be more sound - like a bunch of gunshot simulators. As far the BOSS - same idea - make lots of flashes. Overwhelm the system.

I will leave it to someone else to see if my theories work. I will say I am confident in my genius and I am pretty sure you'll be fine.


Sure, but you have to coordinate more locations to make sound simultaneously. Manned or unmanned positions making noise each present a logistical problem. No armor or defense makes attack impossible, just more difficult. The primary advantage of the sniper, particularly the urban sniper is that they shoot and scoot. A fortified machinegun nest or somesuch isn't trying to hide and does not need a lot of mobility relative to a sniper's nest.
 
2010-04-06 01:40:37 PM  
logruszed: rattchett: I would think that a possible counter to the Boomerang one would be more sound - like a bunch of gunshot simulators. As far the BOSS - same idea - make lots of flashes. Overwhelm the system.

I will leave it to someone else to see if my theories work. I will say I am confident in my genius and I am pretty sure you'll be fine.

Sure, but you have to coordinate more locations to make sound simultaneously. Manned or unmanned positions making noise each present a logistical problem. No armor or defense makes attack impossible, just more difficult. The primary advantage of the sniper, particularly the urban sniper is that they shoot and scoot. A fortified machinegun nest or somesuch isn't trying to hide and does not need a lot of mobility relative to a sniper's nest.


Why not just don't make noise in the first place?

A rounds like the .300 Whisper, .338 Whisper, or .510 Whisper, or even more prosaic rounds like the .45 Colt or .45-70 loaded to subsonic velocities and shot through a suppressor would pretty much make such a system useless.

Actually, depending on how far away you are, you might not even need a suppressor: reflections of the initial muzzle blast off of buildings, vehicles, trees, etc. might well confound the system, and since it won't have a sonic crack to rely on to fine tune where the shot came from, it might not be able to give you anything better than what your ears alone tell you.
 
2010-04-06 01:47:59 PM  
pdieten: Disabuse yourself of the notion that you and your army of retards with 10-gauge shotguns are going to overthrow the government, as the DoD has access to many unique ways to hand your ass to you.

Yeah, it's working really great on a bunch of backwards cave dwellers right now. I wonder what would happen if 30 million armed Americans with the exact same training and more experience fought back? You do realize how many veterans there are, right?
 
2010-04-06 01:53:34 PM  
dittybopper: A rounds like the .300 Whisper, .338 Whisper, or .510 Whisper, or even more prosaic rounds like the .45 Colt or .45-70 loaded to subsonic velocities and shot through a suppressor would pretty much make such a system useless.

Boomarang works though an pressre sensing array(or it did), When it was first being tested it was explained that it has far less to do with sound and more to do with the change in local area pressures. As it was explained a full silenced gun would easaly be located.....

And SunGuards are not an adaquate defence vs the glare detector as they are far more sensetive than the human/animal eye and were tested and developed with the aid of US Snipers, who use sunguards....
 
2010-04-06 02:16:44 PM  
CapitolG: dittybopper: A rounds like the .300 Whisper, .338 Whisper, or .510 Whisper, or even more prosaic rounds like the .45 Colt or .45-70 loaded to subsonic velocities and shot through a suppressor would pretty much make such a system useless.

Boomarang works though an pressre sensing array(or it did), When it was first being tested it was explained that it has far less to do with sound and more to do with the change in local area pressures. As it was explained a full silenced gun would easaly be located.....


I find it hard to believe that a fully silenced gun, shooting a subsonic round, could be located by *ANY* system that uses sound, and yes, a "pressure sensing array" is essentially a group of microphones, because sound is an oscillating change in pressure (in this case, in the air).


And SunGuards are not an adaquate defence vs the glare detector as they are far more sensetive than the human/animal eye and were tested and developed with the aid of US Snipers, who use sunguards....


You know how they work, right? I specifically said this:

they would keep the BOSS system from detecting the scope unless the scope was pointed directly at it. Aim it away from the BOSS by just a few degrees, and the optics are completely masked.

You can't detect what you can't see, by eye or electronic detector, because there is something physically blocking the path between the lens (or eye), and the detector.

Plus, like I said, there is a real danger of false positives, from things like broken glass, etc. that are found in abundance in urban battlefields. Hell, I bet I could spoof it pretty cheaply, especially if I had a chance to prepare an ambush site ahead of time. My wife has a bunch of large glass marbles she uses in a clear vase. How would the system distinguish those from a scope made with basically the same material?

Oh, and I could always just use iron sights.

Eyes are tougher to hide, of course, but I'm willing to bet that a nylon mesh (like panty hose) in front of the eye would attenuate the signal enough to allow you to get within reasonable engagement ranges without detection, but still allow you to see well enough during the day.

The real problem with eye detection is that it's basically worthless: You'll detect all kinds of wildlife, civilians, friendlies, and foe alike. It's non-discriminatory, and thus it will be generally ignored in practice.

You'd be better off just using a soldier with a FLIR camera.
 
2010-04-06 02:18:37 PM  
Ghastly: See why your civil war isn't going to work, Tea Baggers? You're going to be fighting against anti-social nerds in a bunker full of Mountain Dew and Cheesies lighting your ass up with flying sniper bots armed with smart bullets protected with force fields, and scanners that spot your retina.

BOOM! HEAD SHOT!


actually... it will be the nerds who are too afraid to use the weapons who get owned by the war hawks... and once the bust a hole in the tiny dark shelter you're playin WOW in and the sun instantly causes your pale nerd skin to blister... you'll know the end is near. The only uncertainty is how hard will I laugh when it happens?
 
2010-04-06 02:19:41 PM  
oh... and you sound fat.

/bunker busters
 
2010-04-06 02:31:24 PM  
Molavian: You do realize how many veterans there are, right?

Very few that would actively rise against the government of the country they fought to protect.
 
2010-04-06 02:36:31 PM  
That ARSS fires the same rounds as the AWP from CS.
 
2010-04-06 02:44:32 PM  
grizzlyjohnson: Molavian: You do realize how many veterans there are, right?

Very few that would actively rise against the government of the country they fought to protect.


That depends.

Many still remember their oath:

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
 
2010-04-06 02:50:26 PM  
Tony Stark approves of your shenanigans.
 
2010-04-06 02:58:33 PM  
The number of vets rising up is likely to be proportional to the nature of what the government's attempting to do. If it's a clear violation of the Constitution so egregious that it's tantamount to killing folks the government doesn't like and the court system fails (or simply is ignored) to resolve the issue, that number goes up.
 
2010-04-06 03:22:35 PM  
dittybopper: I find it hard to believe that a fully silenced gun, shooting a subsonic round, could be located by *ANY* system that uses sound, and yes, a "pressure sensing array" is essentially a group of microphones, because sound is an oscillating change in pressure (in this case, in the air).

you can find it as hard to believe as you want, but the large changes in air pressure (even by a silenced gun) can and will show up as changes in air pressure, and shy of using a propellant that dose not rapidly expand, you will give away your location.

dittybopper: You can't detect what you can't see, by eye or electronic detector, because there is something physically blocking the path between the lens (or eye), and the detector.

visible light can bend around some obstacles, but due to the wavelength that angle is pretty small, but by using different wavelengths of coherent light what would appear to be blocked by visible light will regularly be "Bent" on different wavelengths (either UV Unlikely) or (Sub IR), both frequencies are pulsed at about 30 Hz via a laser array, allowing a reflective glare to be captured.

That said for info how light will bend around obstacles check out Youngs double slit experiment

My bottom line is while it may look like no light can bend around the sun guard, IT dose. Since the system in question was tested with shooters using sun guards.

False positives, maybe, but as of the last 3-4 times I have read about it... they were dang clear a sun guard did not help.

dittybopper: You'd be better off just using a soldier with a FLIR camera.

And a lenses detection system is a way to find out where to point it.
 
2010-04-06 03:23:38 PM  
dittybopper: OK, here are some potential countermeasures that could be cheap:

1. Guided bullets: Bullets are ballistic. Any attempt to change their direction significantly will cause them to lose energy *FAST* due to increased friction. The tighter the turn, the greater the energy loss. These really aren't very scary. It's not like they can do a complete u-turn, or even change direction 90 degrees within the width of a typical city street.

2. Smart Grenades: It's called "overhead cover". It's been used to protect against airbursts since at least WWI.

3. The BOSS system: Hide the optics, or eyes, behind some kind of filter. There are already devices to prevent your rifle optics from 'flashing', and they would keep the BOSS system from detecting the scope unless the scope was pointed directly at it. Aim it away from the BOSS by just a few degrees, and the optics are completely masked. They only cost $20. As for the retinas, I imagine you could make glasses on the same principle, although you probably wouldn't need to because in practice the system would be subject to false alarms from wildlife, broken glass, scrap metal, friendlies, etc. and probably wouldn't be used in 'eyeball' mode. Plus, something as expedient as putting a pair of nylon stockings over your head would probably work, too (might also work with the rifle scope, but it will make the image darker)

4. Boomerang shot detection system: Audio shot detection systems like the Boomerang can be fooled by the same things that fool the human ear, like the bullet passing by a tree. Plus, subsonic supressed weapons would render the system completely useless.

5. The 'Iron Curtain' is completely useless against kinetic weapons, and also against those with old-fashioned percussion detonating mechanisms. It relies on the fact that RPG warheads have piezoelectric fuses. Make a warhead that operates on a different principle, like a simple percussion cap, and this system would be useless.


Not taking my info from only just Cracked, the guided bullets are not designed to follow you around corners. They're designed to eat a target further then what snipers can hit now with much more ease.

If the bullet a sniper fires adjusts in flight, they can more easily shoot and hit targets further away then they can now.


Yes, the technology isn't perfect. Which new cutting edge is. The gun was a simple step up in warfare and we didn't go from swords to fully automatic M16 in one step.


The Iron Curtain isn't designed to protect against everything. It's impossible to design one system that protects against every possible weapon. It will help protect against the common has dirt RPG though. I think that's a good idea don't you?
 
2010-04-06 03:27:06 PM  
radioman_: Tony Stark approves of your shenanigans.

Only if you can make said shenanigans into exoskeleton/carapace form.
 
2010-04-06 03:31:10 PM  
dittybopper: I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; .

Even if the enemy to the constution is the United States Goverment?

Honest question?
 
2010-04-06 03:32:18 PM  
Zamboro: Hammertoe: "Soon they won't have any reason whatsoever to hide their contempt for the citizens at all. Just remember: with total power comes total corruption."

We do not live in a comic book. A glimpse inside the government does not reveal cackling despots, twirling their mustaches and discussing plans for the subjugation of the masses. It reveals bored government employees filling out paperwork necessary for social programs which benefit a toothless middle--American horde that suspects them of being tools of the Antichrist.


You have just made me realize how utterly pointless my workplace existence is. I am now mired in acedia, dreaming only of the alcoholic release that comes each night at 5...
 
2010-04-06 03:41:18 PM  
BOOM Headshot!
www.freakygaming.com
 
2010-04-06 03:41:29 PM  
ronaprhys: The number of vets rising up is likely to be proportional to the nature of what the government's attempting to do. If it's a clear violation of the Constitution so egregious that it's tantamount to killing folks the government doesn't like and the court system fails (or simply is ignored) to resolve the issue, that number goes up.

Yep.

Oh, and don't forget that a significant fraction of active duty soldiers will decide that when there is a conflict between their allegiance to the Constitution, and to any individual superior up to and including the president, they will side with the Constitution.

Like I said earlier. You don't have to actually be able to win, you just have to make any such victory by the other side so potentially damaging that they won't try it in the first place.
 
2010-04-06 04:07:24 PM  
dittybopper: Yep.

Oh, and don't forget that a significant fraction of active duty soldiers will decide that when there is a conflict between their allegiance to the Constitution, and to any individual superior up to and including the president, they will side with the Constitution.

Like I said earlier. You don't have to actually be able to win, you just have to make any such victory by the other side so potentially damaging that they won't try it in the first place.


Good point, that. Hell, even a decent number of officers might refuse because such an order would be illegal - and if your officer is not following the order it makes it that much harder to get the troops to do so, no?
 
2010-04-06 04:10:18 PM  
CapitolG: Even if the enemy to the constution is the United States Goverment?

Honest question?


Yes - that's very likely why the Oath was written that way. If you're swearing allegiance to the government they can have you do all sorts of Very Bad Things. If you're swearing allegiance to the documents that enable said government, it's much more difficult. They've got to change said document, via legal means, to allow those actions and that's much harder than it looks.

As a case study look at all the morans who want to ban personal firearm ownership and have gotten elected with that as a goal (or some watered down version of that). None of them have succeeded.
 
2010-04-06 04:15:45 PM  
CapitolG: dittybopper: I find it hard to believe that a fully silenced gun, shooting a subsonic round, could be located by *ANY* system that uses sound, and yes, a "pressure sensing array" is essentially a group of microphones, because sound is an oscillating change in pressure (in this case, in the air).

you can find it as hard to believe as you want, but the large changes in air pressure (even by a silenced gun) can and will show up as changes in air pressure, and shy of using a propellant that dose not rapidly expand, you will give away your location.


Large changes in air pressure = sound.

Remove most of the sound through supression of muzzle blast, and through the use of a subsonic round (thus eliminating the miniature sonic 'boom' of a high velocity round), and you get no large changes in air pressure, and hence no ability to detect where the incoming round came from.

Now, if you used a subsonic round *WITHOUT* a supressor, or a supersonic round *WITH* a supressor, this system will probably be able to find you. Most of the time.

Remember: Fluctuations in pressure = sound. Remove the sound (or if you prefer, the fluctuations in pressure), or change it so that it doesn't fit the 'profile', and you can circumvent this system.



dittybopper: You can't detect what you can't see, by eye or electronic detector, because there is something physically blocking the path between the lens (or eye), and the detector.

visible light can bend around some obstacles, but due to the wavelength that angle is pretty small, but by using different wavelengths of coherent light what would appear to be blocked by visible light will regularly be "Bent" on different wavelengths (either UV Unlikely) or (Sub IR), both frequencies are pulsed at about 30 Hz via a laser array, allowing a reflective glare to be captured.

That said for info how light will bend around obstacles check out Youngs double slit experiment


A double slit experiment requires the slits to be in a thin material. If the material is thick and the channel is non-reflective (as you would want in an optical channel), it doesn't work.

My bottom line is while it may look like no light can bend around the sun guard, IT dose. Since the system in question was tested with shooters using sun guards.

False positives, maybe, but as of the last 3-4 times I have read about it... they were dang clear a sun guard did not help.

I'd like to see the off-angle data. In other words, what is the maximum angle the system can detect a normal scope vs. ones with a conventional tube sun shield vs. a normal honeycomb style sun shield vs. a long honeycomb sun shield.

I'd suspect that it might be something like 45 to 60 degrees for an unshielded scope and certainly significantly less than that for shielded scopes. Sure, it may detect them if they are pointed at the detector, but not every vehicle and/or soldier is going to have that detector on them.

Plus, you'd have me believe that enough light is going to enter the sunshield off axis to hit the lens, then get reflected back by the glass, then reflect again off the sun shield back to the detector.

If it can do that, you've just raised your false positive rate by an order of magnitude.

Then too, the current sun shields/anti-glare devices weren't designed with this device in mind. How tough do you think it would be for someone to whip something up in their garage to defeat it? Probably not very.


dittybopper: You'd be better off just using a soldier with a FLIR camera.

And a lenses detection system is a way to find out where to point it.

Which brings up another interesting point: How can you tell the difference between a scope, a TV camera*, or even eyeglasses?

Look, I've been in the military, I'm a bona-fide card carrying gun geek who has owned a farkload of different guns over the years, and I've even written my own ballistics software. I'm also an amateur astronomer and a ham, so I'm familiar with optics and with electronics and particularly software signal processing.

I think you've been reading too many press releases.

*This one is important, given the whole Wikileak video kerfluffle.
 
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