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wil [TotalFark]
2003-05-01 12:20:23 PM  
Sign me up.
 
2003-05-01 12:20:29 PM  
Booooring....
 
2003-05-01 12:22:07 PM  
I'm in.............
 
2003-05-01 12:22:10 PM  
Hells Yes! Lets get this party started!
 
2003-05-01 12:22:29 PM  
Who?
 
2003-05-01 12:23:10 PM  
me me me!!!!
 
2003-05-01 12:23:16 PM  
Finally, something I can be proud to sign up for.

I've boycotted the RIAA for years, 'tis sooooo easy to do :)
 
2003-05-01 12:23:35 PM  
For some reason I was expecting this link to take me to Kazaa or something.
 
2003-05-01 12:23:44 PM  
Is this the same crap where we were supposed to get some kind of a rebate or something like $20 for a CD we bought when they were price fixing?
 
2003-05-01 12:24:06 PM  
Farked already?
 
2003-05-01 12:24:18 PM  
Now wait, let me get this straight: We are gonna sue the RIAA because they won't let us steal their stuff?
 
2003-05-01 12:24:43 PM  
nobody expects the spanish inquisition
 
2003-05-01 12:25:13 PM  
This is old news. I downloaded this whole article from Kazaa three weeks ago. I'd rather join a court action to force Hillary Rosen to reveal how many albums/cd's she's purchased in the past year. If she don't get them for free, I bet she would never buy them, cause they're too damn expensive.
 
2003-05-01 12:26:34 PM  
Soooo.....I should only download and pirate non-RIAA music? Or what?

/Note to "Law-Talking-Guys" trolling Fark: This is sarcasm. Do not contact me. I don't even know how
to use a computer./
 
2003-05-01 12:27:17 PM  
farked.
 
2003-05-01 12:27:53 PM  
It's a trap?
 
2003-05-01 12:28:18 PM  
The RIAA submitted the link to Fark so that we would crash the servers of these pirates.
 
2003-05-01 12:29:44 PM  
hey, anyone have the link from the blog raving about the RIAA? It was in the past month or so. Anyway, he had some actual data about the "drops" in sales and stuff. Anyone?
 
2003-05-01 12:29:56 PM  
Are they still relevant?
 
2003-05-01 12:30:40 PM  
Boycott the who???

RIAA, RIP
 
2003-05-01 12:31:00 PM  
Anybody who signs this better watch out. Lars Ulrich and James Hetfield might show up at your door to beat your ass Jay and Silent Bob style.

Lars Ulrich is like Jay but retarded and James Hetfield is like silent bob except the reason he doesn't talk is cuz he's too dumb to think of anything to say.
 
2003-05-01 12:31:21 PM  
Somebody's website suxit.
 
2003-05-01 12:31:24 PM  
If everyone would stop buying shiat and stop attending shiatty concerts, the problem would solve itself.

But seeing that American Idol is the #1 show on television...
 
2003-05-01 12:31:35 PM  
Oooh these charges:

1) Monopolistic domination of the marketplace and preventing access to all others.

I soooo agree. I know lots of actually talented musicians who could never get signed up because they don't sell-out or they don't produce music that they can't manufacture or sell to millions of idiots.

2) Market restrictions which apply to all competition except the major labels.

I'm not sure about this one but if its true I'm not surprised at all.

3) An attempt to ignore all authorized music in an effort to establish a pay-for-play marketplace, even though the freely authorized music is the majority of recorded music available on the Internet.

Heh good play on words. But that is true, if the RIAA had its way, every time I give a Recital I would have to charge an arm and a leg to pay composers and such royalty fees even though most of the composer's music I play is either in public-domain or they WANT they're music to be performed for free.

4) False testimony before Congress.
When Hilary Rosen went before Orrin Hatch in the Napster hearings, she knew for a fact that sales would be down in 2000. They engineered it.

What happened in 1999 was a carbon copy of what happened in 1997.

With the corporate scams nowadays its easy to "hide" earnings reports and manipulate them to show whatever you want.

5) Perpetrating a fraud against the government of the United States.
There is no empirical data to support "downloading as theft."In fact, if the labels would shut up, stop sending out free goods, and post a few mp3s, they would save about $2 to $4 billion a year.

I agree. A lot of money is wasted on overhead for the production of CDs. In fact the 17 bucks to manufacture the CD usually comes out to this:

$0.07 - Purchase of blank CD
$0.10 - Purchase of jewel case
$0.90 - Printing of liner notes and booklets inside
$0.03 - Cost of ink on CD itself and burning of CD

You know it really only costs maybe at the MOST a dollar to produce your favorite "artists" CD... but why do you pay 16 dollars MORE?

You're also paying for the marketing for the artist, the stylish clothes they can prounce around in, their Bently with ugly-as-hell rims which serve no purpose, they're free food and limo drivers for when they go on tour, their 5-star hotels, their entourage of security guards and dancers and roadies (who also need hotel rooms, free food, $3 a bottle bottled water) etc.

Of course this should be obvious to most people, yet they keep buying this crap.
 
2003-05-01 12:33:12 PM  
I was in my high school band, and I haven't been able to get a gig since!

FARK YOU RIAA!! AND FARK YOUR FARKING MONOPOLY!!!!!
 
2003-05-01 12:34:42 PM  
server fall down, go boom
 
2003-05-01 12:35:00 PM  
Please tell me why BIG artisits/record labels, movie stars - need to be so godamn rich and wont comprimise?
 
2003-05-01 12:35:01 PM  
These are the same dumbasses that tried toban the VCR too. Yes, such damage the VCR has inflicted on the fragile broadcast TV economy *sob*.
 
2003-05-01 12:35:18 PM  
Surprised hillary rosen hasnt been ousted yet as the CEO... isnt that the normal thing to do when your company doesnt perform? oh wait, i forget now days, underperforming CEO's get a bonus and salary raise.
 
2003-05-01 12:36:22 PM  
I cant beleive all this crap came about because of people like Metallica (and a few others). Ever notice the primary recording artists making a stink about filesharing are washed-up has-beens from the 80's whose relevance expired more than a decade ago? Metallica??? Madonna? I guess they're not making enough royalties off the K-Tel "remember when" 80's compilations they sell on late night tv.

Oh well, 20 year coke habits DO get expensive...
 
2003-05-01 12:36:23 PM  
You know it really only costs maybe at the MOST a dollar to produce your favorite "artists" CD... but why do you pay 16 dollars MORE?

What most people miss is that raw material costs are only a fraction of any item you buy in our economy. How much do you think it costs to build a bean burrito, and how much does Taco Bell charge you for it? Where does all that extra money go if it's not for burrito?
 
2003-05-01 12:36:49 PM  
So. Whatcha think 'bout the new iTunes Music Store?
 
2003-05-01 12:37:58 PM  
I just downloaded 40 Licks(go ahead and flame me, I like the Stones, especially their early stuff). The old geezers have got to be worth a gazillion bucks. Do I feel guilty? Fark no.
 
2003-05-01 12:38:12 PM  
05-01-03 12:31:35 PM Valkhorn

$0.07 - Purchase of blank CD
$0.10 - Purchase of jewel case
$0.90 - Printing of liner notes and booklets inside
$0.03 - Cost of ink on CD itself and burning of CD

You know it really only costs maybe at the MOST a dollar to produce your favorite "artists" CD... but why do you pay 16 dollars MORE?



Um, that's $1.10

/nitpick
 
2003-05-01 12:38:43 PM  
Young_Fart:

taco bell has to pay extra for their unneccessary taxing of metropolitan and suburban sewer systems.
 
2003-05-01 12:39:05 PM  
Young_Fart

Read on in my "column" and I tell you where it goes :)

Marketing and Limo drivers for CEOs and "artists"
 
2003-05-01 12:39:53 PM  
05-01-03 12:31:35 PM Valkhorn

I thought the artist only got a small percentage of record sales. something like pennies on the dollar. most of their money comes from touring. Most of the proceeds of record sales go to the labels.
 
2003-05-01 12:40:10 PM  
Drunken:

Eh its early yet here, cut me some slack Jack :P

But you know what I mean.
 
2003-05-01 12:40:11 PM  
"Now wait, let me get this straight: We are gonna sue the RIAA because they won't let us steal their stuff?"


There is alot more to it than just free music. But feel free to be a troll
 
2003-05-01 12:41:35 PM  
RE: 40 Licks. I just ripped my brothers copy in AAC 128 rather than MP3 192. It came in around 2/3 the size and sounds (to my admittedly aged ears) just as good if not a wee bit (Ha!) crisper.
 
2003-05-01 12:42:09 PM  
13 minutes later. Site is still loading.

Any minute now...

*waits patiently*
 
2003-05-01 12:42:32 PM  
Rynomite:

Really? Hmmm never heard of that, but, I will research it.

I have heard though that all these "artists" who have private jets and Bentlys don't really own them at all, they're just given to them by the Record Labels out of "trust" so they'll have an image or something.

But, I could be wrong.
 
2003-05-01 12:43:22 PM  
Apple iTunes Music Store rules and in time the cost per track will come down to 50 cents a pop.

It's definitely a step in the right direction especially since the restrictions that Apple places on the use of the downloaded music is pretty reasonable (Share with three computers, pretty much unlimited burns and downloads to iPods).
 
2003-05-01 12:43:35 PM  
uh... that article was really hard to mastu... uh... dance to.
 
2003-05-01 12:43:45 PM  
we all know that musicians don't make any money off CD sales. they make money through touring, merchandise and endorsements. as a musician, the only thing i'm worried about is people hearing the music so they can come to the show and buy the t-shirt. :) i'd rather not put out a CD at all; ONLY make the music available for download. anyway, we're going for the DIY method. screw getting signed; if i want to make money off my CDs, i'd damn well better make them myself adn sell them myself.
 
2003-05-01 12:43:54 PM  
I think it speaks volumes against the RIAA that a good number of artists both big and small WANT people to download their music. If it really was the end of music (and not just the big record labels), wouldn't every band in the world be saying "stop downloading our shiat, damnit"?
 
2003-05-01 12:44:03 PM  
$0.07 - Purchase of blank CD
$0.10 - Purchase of jewel case
$0.90 - Printing of liner notes and booklets inside
$0.03 - Cost of ink on CD itself and burning of CD


Studio time per hour?
Sound guys per hour?
High dollar sound equipment per hour?
Session musicians per hour?
Songwriters cut?
Marketing?
Shelf space?

Apparently all those things are free in your little world.


You're also paying for the marketing for the artist, the stylish clothes they can prounce around in, their Bently with ugly-as-hell rims which serve no purpose, they're free food and limo drivers for when they go on tour, their 5-star hotels, their entourage of security guards and dancers and roadies (who also need hotel rooms, free food, $3 a bottle bottled water) etc.

Concert ticket sales, merchandising, and endorsements are what makes artists rich, not 1-2 dollars per album sold.
 
2003-05-01 12:44:22 PM  
I always found it odd that a soundtrack to a movie frequently costs as much or more than the whole farking movie on DVD.
 
2003-05-01 12:45:05 PM  
Sounds fun.
 
2003-05-01 12:46:18 PM  
Artists that want to make money can always do the MC Hammer thing and self-promote. You really have to work your ass off, though.
 
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