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(The New York Times)   Obama administration asks Israel not to build any more settlements in Jerusalem. Which is as likely to happen as Obama is to invite Sarah Palin to the White House to shoot baskets and watch "American Idol"   (nytimes.com ) divider line
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2010-03-29 03:08:30 PM  
Israel has no honour.

/Neither does anyone else in that entire region
 
2010-03-29 03:26:04 PM  

OlafTheBent: Israel has no honour.

/Neither does anyone else in that entire region


Funny how killing each other over magic dirt will do that.
 
2010-03-29 04:11:11 PM  

Cagey B: OlafTheBent: Israel has no honour.

/Neither does anyone else in that entire region

Funny how killing each other over magic dirt will do that.


The dirt is magic? Why aren't we grabbing it?
 
2010-03-29 04:12:32 PM  
I hope they let the UN sanctions pass. and cut off all funding. have some IAEA inspections and make them declare their nukes and make them sign the NPT. Just like they want the Arab nations to do.
No double standards.
 
2010-03-29 04:15:59 PM  
 
2010-03-29 04:37:48 PM  
 
2010-03-29 04:38:05 PM  
Um, actually I think Palin getting asked to the White House is more likely.
 
2010-03-29 05:13:17 PM  
here's how I think it should go:

US: 'hey Israel, ya think you could NOT piss off your neighbors for the next decade or so?'
Israel: 'hahahahaha! no.'
US: 'ok, fine. be that way.'
Israel: 'um...dude. you didn't send us our military aid money.'
US: 'hahahahahahaha! no.'
Israel: 'but we NEED that money!'
US: 'gee. i'll bet you sure wished you'd not have spent the past decade pissing off your neighbors.'
 
2010-03-29 05:16:15 PM  
Well, she might actually have relevant opinions on American Idol.
 
2010-03-29 05:35:22 PM  
We should just blow up new East Jerusalem settlements.
Show 'em we mean bidness
 
2010-03-29 05:35:41 PM  
Ah, the Holy Land. A place so violent that when people want to wash the blood off of their hands they have to go shirtless.
 
2010-03-29 05:47:04 PM  
I am now seeking investors for the my startup AarCo Industries. Our first project will be the construction of a massive dome that will be placed over the entirety of the Middle East.
 
2010-03-29 05:52:17 PM  

Cagey B: OlafTheBent: Israel has no honour.

/Neither does anyone else in that entire region

Funny how killing each other over magic dirt will do that.


/thread.
 
2010-03-29 05:53:47 PM  
said Monday on Israel Radio that the status of East Jerusalem should be resolved in direct negotiations with the Palestinians, not in advance.

Gain as much advantage as possible before a negotiation.

That would be smart business acumen.

Something I find particularly common among members of a certain race.

/teehee
 
2010-03-29 05:54:21 PM  

EvilEgg: Cagey B: OlafTheBent: Israel has no honour.

/Neither does anyone else in that entire region

Funny how killing each other over magic dirt will do that.

The dirt is magic? Why aren't we grabbing it?


Because our idea of the magic dirt doesn't begin until some blood has been spilled in sacrifice. We're biding our time and trying to push them towards it. So that nice Jebus fella can come door to door and shake hands.
 
2010-03-29 05:54:25 PM  

Weaver95: here's how I think it should go:

US: 'hey Israel, ya think you could NOT piss off your neighbors for the next decade or so?'
Israel: 'hahahahaha! no.'
US: 'ok, fine. be that way.'
Israel: 'um...dude. you didn't send us our military aid money.'
US: 'hahahahahahaha! no.'
Israel: 'but we NEED that money!'
US: 'gee. i'll bet you sure wished you'd not have spent the past decade pissing off your neighbors.'


I wish.
 
2010-03-29 05:54:37 PM  
can't we just send them some more money or something?
 
2010-03-29 05:54:53 PM  
Good. If we're going to be subsidizing wars, it might as well be entertaining ones. Israel-Palestine is a bit old and jumped the shark long ago.

/Iceland vs. Greenland would be way more fun
 
2010-03-29 05:55:11 PM  
Obama invites Sarah Palin to the White House to shoot baskets and watch "American Idol" and she accepts. It's of course televised.

Can you imagine? I don't know how I would feel if that happened.
 
2010-03-29 05:55:14 PM  
Someone please photoshop Obama slam dunking over Palin. The internet needs this. Don't let us down.
 
2010-03-29 05:55:18 PM  
static.flickr.com
 
2010-03-29 05:57:32 PM  
Weaver95 [TotalFark] Quote 2010-03-29 05:13:17 PM
here's how I think it should go:

US: 'hey Israel, ya think you could NOT piss off your neighbors for the next decade or so?'
Israel: 'hahahahaha! no.'
US: 'ok, fine. be that way.'
Israel: 'um...dude. you didn't send us our military aid money.'
US: 'hahahahahahaha! no.'
Israel: 'but we NEED that money!'
US: 'gee. i'll bet you sure wished you'd not have spent the past decade pissing off your neighbors.'


That would be nice. However, if the US--this administration--doesn't provide support, it will lose the votes of a powerful, vocal constituency.

Shrewd maneuvering, but I don't like it one bit.

Where is Tatsuma to provide the expected spin?
 
2010-03-29 05:58:40 PM  
In related news, the UK has asked the US not to build any more housing complexes in Washington because it pisses off the Powhatans.

Ireland has asked the UK not to build anything in Londinium, because it pisses off the Romans.

Poland has asked Ireland not to build anything in Dublin because it pisses off the Vikings.

Nigeria has asked Poland....
 
2010-03-29 05:58:44 PM  

Hobodeluxe: I hope they let the UN sanctions pass. and cut off all funding. have some IAEA inspections and make them declare their nukes and make them sign the NPT. Just like they want the Arab nations to do.
No double standards.


OK then, we should do what we are asking of Israel then and not only stop building new settlements on the Kingdom of Hawaii and begin the process of returning that land to it's rightful ancestral owners.

We will start will all of the land Obama's family owns as a sign that he REALLY believes in the principles he is asserting and not just being a hypocrite.
 
2010-03-29 05:59:41 PM  

Weaver95: here's how I think it should go:

US: 'hey Israel, ya think you could NOT piss off your neighbors for the next decade or so?'
Israel: 'hahahahaha! no.'
US: 'ok, fine. be that way.'
Israel: 'um...dude. you didn't send us our military aid money.'
US: 'hahahahahahaha! no.'
Israel: 'but we NEED that money!'
US: 'gee. i'll bet you sure wished you'd not have spent the past decade pissing off your neighbors.'


Well, it would be a combo breaker. We've had issues over Israeli Jerusalem expansion since 1969.
 
2010-03-29 06:00:12 PM  
Avigdor Lieberman, the foreign minister and another member of the inner group of seven ministers, said in a newspaper interview that the Obama demands included a building freeze in most of the Jewish neighborhoods of Jerusalem. He added: "I have not seen anyone among the seven who has consented to this. The past few days have taught me that there is no point to further concessions."

He's absolutely right - we won't stop giving them aid, so why should they do anything for us at all?
 
2010-03-29 06:01:23 PM  
Fine. Cancel their credit card.
 
2010-03-29 06:01:37 PM  

rppp01a: Weaver95: here's how I think it should go:

US: 'hey Israel, ya think you could NOT piss off your neighbors for the next decade or so?'
Israel: 'hahahahaha! no.'
US: 'ok, fine. be that way.'
Israel: 'um...dude. you didn't send us our military aid money.'
US: 'hahahahahahaha! no.'
Israel: 'but we NEED that money!'
US: 'gee. i'll bet you sure wished you'd not have spent the past decade pissing off your neighbors.'

I wish.


Meh, depending on one's point of view, one might predict that cutting off funding might increase internal pressures and increase the frequency/magnitude/etc of "bad outcomes." I've always viewed our relationship with Egypt and Israel as a ransom willingly paid on the Suez canal for world benefit.
 
2010-03-29 06:01:41 PM  

keithrogan: In related news, the UK has asked the US not to build any more housing complexes in Washington because it pisses off the Powhatans.

Ireland has asked the UK not to build anything in Londinium, because it pisses off the Romans.

Poland has asked Ireland not to build anything in Dublin because it pisses off the Vikings.

Nigeria has asked Poland....


Are you actually trying to make a point or are you acting stupid?
 
2010-03-29 06:01:44 PM  
But but but...

According to recent greens and right wing posters, Isreal is our bestest ally ever who we need to stand by at all costs or else we're all anti-semitic and Obama dissed them because they were Jews (not Isrealis, "Jews") and that was bad but we gave them a whole bunch of money but that was bad too because it was expensive.

I'm confused.
 
2010-03-29 06:01:45 PM  

keithrogan: In related news, the UK has asked the US not to build any more housing complexes in Washington because it pisses off the Powhatans.

Ireland has asked the UK not to build anything in Londinium, because it pisses off the Romans.

Poland has asked Ireland not to build anything in Dublin because it pisses off the Vikings.

Nigeria has asked Poland....


...if they could help take care of a large fortune?
 
2010-03-29 06:02:35 PM  
Gonna take my ball and go home in the WAAAAAAAHmbulance.
assets.nydailynews.com
 
2010-03-29 06:03:43 PM  
If they want to go it alone, I don't see why we're obligated to stop them.

Good luck with all of that.
 
2010-03-29 06:03:45 PM  
Obama is more likely to invite Palin for a three way with the wife....
 
2010-03-29 06:04:15 PM  

EvilEgg: Cagey B: OlafTheBent: Israel has no honour.

/Neither does anyone else in that entire region

Funny how killing each other over magic dirt will do that.

The dirt is magic? Why aren't we grabbing it?


We have more magic dirt in our Deserts. Magic dirt is scarce there because they have more Sea Gods, who can blow all the Magic Dirt to prosperous countries. That's how Greece and Rome had lanterns without actually harnessing fire.
 
2010-03-29 06:04:58 PM  

Party Boy: Well, it would be a combo breaker. We've had issues over Israeli Jerusalem expansion since 1969.


I just think that Israel and US interests in the middle east are no longer aligned. that's ok, not every country is going to see eye to eye on things forever, and if Israel wants to pursue options other than what the US wants to accomplish, that's certainly their perogative. But there's no reason for the US to continue supporting Israel anymore either.
 
2010-03-29 06:04:58 PM  

keithrogan: In related news, the UK has asked the US not to build any more housing complexes in Washington because it pisses off the Powhatans.

Ireland has asked the UK not to build anything in Londinium, because it pisses off the Romans.

Poland has asked Ireland not to build anything in Dublin because it pisses off the Vikings.

Nigeria has asked Poland....


i601.photobucket.com
 
2010-03-29 06:05:05 PM  

Cagey B: OlafTheBent: Israel has no honour.

/Neither does anyone else in that entire region

Funny how killing each other over magic dirt will do that.


And the Israelis, in all their wisdom, grabbed the one patch of magic dirt in the region that DOESN'T have billions of barrels of oil underneath.
 
2010-03-29 06:05:15 PM  
...the Obama demands included a building freeze in most of the Jewish neighborhoods of Jerusalem

I can understand a request for a freeze for building in Arab neighborhoods in Jerusalem, but no building in the Jewish neighborhoods? That's some chutzpah for Obama to think he can go in and meddle in internal Israeli issues.
 
2010-03-29 06:05:33 PM  
I want a refund.
 
2010-03-29 06:05:56 PM  

Party Boy: Weaver95: here's how I think it should go:

US: 'hey Israel, ya think you could NOT piss off your neighbors for the next decade or so?'
Israel: 'hahahahaha! no.'
US: 'ok, fine. be that way.'
Israel: 'um...dude. you didn't send us our military aid money.'
US: 'hahahahahahaha! no.'
Israel: 'but we NEED that money!'
US: 'gee. i'll bet you sure wished you'd not have spent the past decade pissing off your neighbors.'

Well, it would be a combo breaker. We've had issues over Israeli Jerusalem expansion since 1969.


You do realize that the #1,2,3,4,5 and 6, things that Israel does to piss off it's neighbors it "being Israel" right? You understand that the conflicts of land are a pretext to the fact that they are JEWS living in the middle east surrounded by people like Iran, who want nothing more than to drive the people of Israel into the sea?

Israel went to it's neighbors last year and said "fine we will offer you everything you said you wanted in the official negotiations" and they were told to go fark themselves.

Israel tried negotiation and giving up anything and everything it has, and it got them nowhere, so the put Netanyahu back in charge. If they won't make peace even when you give them everything they want, why give them anything at all? An enemy like that can only be dealt with by force.
 
2010-03-29 06:05:59 PM  
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2010-03-29 06:06:46 PM  
The OT had many typos. That land is supposed to be mine.
 
2010-03-29 06:06:54 PM  

Weaver95: here's how I think it should go:

US: 'hey Israel, ya think you could NOT piss off your neighbors for the next decade or so?'
Israel: 'hahahahaha! no.'
US: 'ok, fine. be that way.'
Israel: 'um...dude. you didn't send us our military aid money.'
US: 'hahahahahahaha! no.'
Israel: 'but we NEED that money!'
US: 'gee. i'll bet you sure wished you'd not have spent the past decade pissing off your neighbors.'



Why am I so shocked to see Mr. Libertarian on this side of the issue?
 
2010-03-29 06:07:15 PM  
Maybe if we stopped selling them tractors to bulldoze down the Palestinian's houses..things would go better. But we're greedy aren't we?
 
2010-03-29 06:08:51 PM  

hetheeme: Party Boy: Weaver95: here's how I think it should go:

US: 'hey Israel, ya think you could NOT piss off your neighbors for the next decade or so?'
Israel: 'hahahahaha! no.'
US: 'ok, fine. be that way.'
Israel: 'um...dude. you didn't send us our military aid money.'
US: 'hahahahahahaha! no.'
Israel: 'but we NEED that money!'
US: 'gee. i'll bet you sure wished you'd not have spent the past decade pissing off your neighbors.'

Well, it would be a combo breaker. We've had issues over Israeli Jerusalem expansion since 1969.

You do realize that the #1,2,3,4,5 and 6, things that Israel does to piss off it's neighbors it "being Israel" right? You understand that the conflicts of land are a pretext to the fact that they are JEWS living in the middle east surrounded by people like Iran, who want nothing more than to drive the people of Israel into the sea?

Israel went to it's neighbors last year and said "fine we will offer you everything you said you wanted in the official negotiations" and they were told to go fark themselves.

Israel tried negotiation and giving up anything and everything it has, and it got them nowhere, so the put Netanyahu back in charge. If they won't make peace even when you give them everything they want, why give them anything at all? An enemy like that can only be dealt with by force.



You apparently don't realize that the people you are talking to don't give a damn about Israel.
 
2010-03-29 06:08:58 PM  
Please just let us wash our hands of the region. Declare Israel just another terrorist state and cancel all treaties with them. Let the rest of the middle east just have them.
 
NNH
2010-03-29 06:08:59 PM  
Building in occupied territories is still illegal, right? Or has the world become less civilized to accommodate Israeli expansion?
 
2010-03-29 06:08:59 PM  
Vindibudd: Why am I so shocked to see Mr. Libertarian on this side of the issue?

I like the person who would take the side of the Palestinian Jews and Christians in all this. You know, the people who have problems with the whole situation. Like most Israelis. And well yeah most Palestinians.
 
2010-03-29 06:09:16 PM  
 
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