If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Crapids Gazette)   This one time at band camp, a 27 year old band instructor was arrested for having sex with one of his students even though she was 18 at the time. With a mugshot that says "Yeah, I'm busted, but hey, I nailed an 18 year old."   (gazetteonline.com) divider line 129
    More: Stupid, sexual favors, certified teachers, felony charges, self-esteem, Anamosa, sexual relationship, Anamosa Public Schools, IntenseDebate  
•       •       •

39548 clicks; posted to Main » on 27 Mar 2010 at 1:57 PM (4 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



129 Comments   (+0 »)
   

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all
 
2010-03-27 12:10:16 PM
I'm assuming there's something missing from this story. Maybe the student was 17 during one of their encounters. If she was indeed 18 during all three incidents, then I'd bet money on the judge laughing it out of court.

Still kinda creepy, though.
 
2010-03-27 12:13:08 PM
Kyro: I'd bet money on the judge laughing it out of court.

Nope.

It's pretty much illegal for a teacher to bang a student. Even in college.
 
2010-03-27 12:15:00 PM
gazetteonline.comi.imgur.com

Any Farkers with Photoshop skillz?
 
2010-03-27 12:28:40 PM
doglover: It's pretty much illegal for a teacher to bang a student. Even in college.

Looks like it, FTA, "Sexual exploitation by a school employee is a class D felony charge."

Now we need pics to see if we judge him to have made a worthy sacrifice.
 
2010-03-27 12:39:03 PM
for having sex with one of his students

But according to the article, he's a middle school teacher?
 
2010-03-27 12:40:54 PM
 
2010-03-27 12:46:26 PM
doglover: Kyro: I'd bet money on the judge laughing it out of court.

Nope.

It's pretty much illegal for a teacher to bang a student. Even in college.


Yep
Just because they are 18, if they are your student it's exploitation. Same goes for Doctors and Nurses. Basically you have power over the person and could be assumed to b e using it, hence the whole "exploitation" bit.

farm5.static.flickr.com

\\wouldn't say I have "skills"
 
2010-03-27 12:51:31 PM
He's not a hot female, throw the book at him!
 
2010-03-27 12:52:59 PM
cretinbob: farm5.static.flickr.com

Hee, that's awesome!

/lotta huffing and puffing goin' on
 
2010-03-27 12:54:06 PM
Barfmaker: doglover: It's pretty much illegal for a teacher to bang a student. Even in college.

Looks like it, FTA, "Sexual exploitation by a school employee is a class D felony charge."


Huh. So since you don't need to have done something sexual to be registered as a sex offender, is this guy a double sex offender?
 
2010-03-27 12:59:51 PM
cretinbob: Just because they are 18, if they are your student it's exploitation. Same goes for Doctors and Nurses. Basically you have power over the person and could be assumed to b e using it, hence the whole "exploitation" bit.

Another reason not to be a teacher: It's illegal to bang an 18 year old.
 
2010-03-27 01:01:09 PM
smooshie: cretinbob: farm5.static.flickr.com

Hee, that's awesome!

/lotta huffing and puffing goin' on


I have to say smooshie had a good eye for that one. It just fell right into place without a lot of stretching and scaling and stuff.
 
2010-03-27 01:11:03 PM
Why would any female have sex with that guy?
 
2010-03-27 01:12:58 PM
I have a couple of questions:

1. If he was a teacher, but not her teacher say even if he was a teacher at another school, would this still fall that felony?

2. If it's a case of having a position of authority, does that mean it's illegal for an a manager to sleep with an employee? I know it's frowned upon, and could result in a sexual harassment suit, but if it didn't would it still fall under this law?

/just curious
 
2010-03-27 01:22:46 PM
Three words: Position of trust.

The question is -- when does that end? After the person has been out of school five years? Ten years?
 
2010-03-27 01:23:57 PM
we're missing the important thing. what kind of grade did she get?"
 
2010-03-27 01:24:24 PM
A felony? Get the fark outta here...
 
2010-03-27 01:27:56 PM
doglover: Kyro: I'd bet money on the judge laughing it out of court.

Nope.

It's pretty much illegal for a teacher to bang a student. Even in college.


Yeah, no. I can boff one of my students any time I want to without criminal repercussions. Of course, there's the "getting fired, never finding a job in academe again, having to hire two wreckers and the jaws of life to remove Mrs. Love Zombie's foot from my ass" repercussions, so that's pretty much out.

Oddly on topic -- I actually tell my students that my bribe price is $1 million. Because if I get caught selling grades, I'll never work in my field again, and I'm not trained in any other. So it has to be worth it. And I tell them that anything ELSE that is offered would have to be worth the aforementioned million clams. Which might be an inappropriate slang term in this instance, but still...
 
2010-03-27 01:28:57 PM
Hobodeluxe: we're missing the important thing. what kind of grade did she get?"

Judging from his appearance, I'd say she got a Wasserman-Plus.
 
2010-03-27 01:31:01 PM
ecmoRandomNumbers: Three words: Position of trust.

Three more words: A ridiculous standard.

You could argue that a "trust" relationship exists between nearly any professional and their client. "Consenting Adults" should be the trump card in such a situation.
 
2010-03-27 01:32:52 PM
so I will play judge for a second
when this case is brought in front of me, I would ask the prosecution one question (multiple parts)

how many times has this charge been brought against a female teacher when the student was 18 or over?
(this county, state or nationwide)

you dont know the answer? never?

case dismissed
prosecution found in contempt for biased application of the law

clearly a civil rights case
men are clearly being biased against
 
2010-03-27 01:33:42 PM
The Icelander: Another reason not to be a teacher: It's illegal to bang an 18 year old.

Isn't it only if they're from your school?
...
Huh. In Iowa, apparently any educator with any student.
 
2010-03-27 01:35:20 PM
doglover: It's pretty much illegal for a teacher to bang a student. Even in college.

Actually, the Iowa law is just for primary and secondary schools (and education agency employees), not college. It's often against college policy, but not always.
 
2010-03-27 01:35:23 PM
dahmers love zombie: Oddly on topic -- I actually tell my students that my bribe price is $1 million.

still
you only need that one rich student, who REALLLLY needs the grade
lol
 
2010-03-27 01:52:26 PM
He was a golf instructor.

Way to go tiger!
 
2010-03-27 01:58:29 PM
I've long said that I will donate money to the defense fund of the first teacher (or any male) who's given a lengthy sentence for having sex with a 15/16/17 year old female who's attorney challenges his conviction and sentence all the way to the Supreme Court on the basis that such a conviction and sentence is a violation of the Equal Protection clause of the United State Constitution given the fact that women charged with the EXACT SAME CRIMES receive a fraction of the punishment men do if they're even given any time at all and not just a slap-on-the-wrist punishment like probation of home confinement, etc.

If females genuinely are "delicate innocent flowers" that require special and additional legal protections (as one would surmise they are given the severity of punishments males receive for committing crimes against women that women who commit the SAME CRIMES often get noting more than scolded for and/or are otherwise held unaccountable for their actions) then fine, so be it, codify these protections into the LAW just as there are special laws protecting children, the elderly and the mentally disabled and special punishments applied to those who do harm to those "protected class" of individual.

If, however, that's the case and women - because they are not as strong/smart/responsible/what have you as men are and need special protections as a result - then their civil rights cannot and must not be equal to those who are not deemed by the state to be so weak as to be specially protected and/or are actually held accountable when they break the law.

Property ownership rights, voting rights, drivers licenses, etc, I don't know how this would manifest itself but if, indeed, women are "less than" men and require and receive special treatment and special protections as a result then they oughtn't to have the same rights that men have.

Are you equal or not, ladies?

Pick only one . . . .

/"cherry picking" only when it's convenient for you to be "equal" is not an option.
 
2010-03-27 02:00:02 PM
So it's a felony to sleep with an adult now? Nice.

What's the punishment for a Class D felony?
 
2010-03-27 02:00:11 PM

(Crapids Gazette)


Sounds painful.
 
2010-03-27 02:01:54 PM
I nailed a 19 year old when I was 30. I suspect that this is utterly unremarkable.
 
2010-03-27 02:01:57 PM
Sounds like something to get fired for, not arrested.
 
2010-03-27 02:03:15 PM
doglover: It's pretty much illegal for a teacher to bang a student. Even in college.

Illegal? Don't know about that. It might violate a school's policy and the teacher can be terminated for it, but I don't think anybody is going to be arrested for sex with a legal adult.
 
2010-03-27 02:04:16 PM
obvious
gazetteonline.com
collegecandy.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-03-27 02:06:19 PM
We just had a very similar incident with the former band instructor of O'Fallon, IL and Alton, IL. He even married one of his students and continued having sex with other students.

He's in jail now.
 
2010-03-27 02:07:40 PM
He taught at a different school.
He coached a team at her school that she wasn't on.
He wasn't in a position of authority over her.
She was 18.

Why is he getting arrested?
 
2010-03-27 02:09:25 PM
Now he's a Class D Felony Sex Offender - for having sexy time with a consenting adult. Yeah, that's fair.
 
2010-03-27 02:09:48 PM
give me doughnuts: He taught at a different school.
He coached a team at her school that she wasn't on.
He wasn't in a position of authority over her.
She was 18.

Why is he getting arrested?


Because he's a he and she's a she.
 
2010-03-27 02:11:31 PM
The All-Powerful Atheismo: obvious

So obvious I made that one too, but wasn't happy with it. But since you mentioned it

farm5.static.flickr.com

\\told you I have no skills
 
2010-03-27 02:12:06 PM
doglover: It's pretty much illegal for a teacher to bang a student. Even in college.

it's not illegal, the institutions have rules against it.
 
2010-03-27 02:13:42 PM
Dear webmasters of local news sites:

The interweb tubes are international in scope. Please indicate at the top of the page, in a convenient and easy to read manner, where the fark you are located. Thank you.

Love,
She Comes In Colors Everywhere
 
2010-03-27 02:14:37 PM
doglover 2010-03-27 12:13:08 PM Kyro: I'd bet money on the judge laughing it out of court. Nope. It's pretty much illegal for a teacher to bang a student. Even in college.
================================================

Frowned upon? Yes
Firable? Yes
Illegal? No.

You can't get arrested for banging an 18 year old. In ANY state. There's no 'You can... but not if you're a teacher' clause.

I'm assuming the student is 18 NOW but they had sex before then.
 
2010-03-27 02:15:14 PM
Anyone read the comments on the link? Multiple people saying he needs lengthy jail time. Kurt Russell thinks that is Overboard.
 
2010-03-27 02:17:25 PM
cretinbob: The All-Powerful Atheismo: obvious

So obvious I made that one too, but wasn't happy with it. But since you mentioned it



\\told you I have no skills


I think that's the definition of having skills... Well done.
 
2010-03-27 02:17:37 PM
secularsage: We just had a very similar incident with the former band instructor of O'Fallon, IL and Alton, IL. He even married one of his students and continued having sex with other students.

He's in jail now.


And the area wonders why he had to go through 2 schools to get to this point. Creepy I say!
 
2010-03-27 02:17:52 PM
doglover: It's pretty much illegal for a teacher to bang a student. Even in college.

I'm not saying that Buck's actions were not illegal his location, but the whole issue of legality depends upon location.

For example Yale just recently banned teacher-undergraduate sex which is not illegal in Connecticut. And the penalty for breaking this ban is probably just a disciplinary hearing and probably won't progress to a firing or expulsion.
 
2010-03-27 02:18:15 PM
dahmers love zombie: doglover: Kyro: I'd bet money on the judge laughing it out of court.

Nope.

It's pretty much illegal for a teacher to bang a student. Even in college.

Yeah, no. I can boff one of my students any time I want to without criminal repercussions. Of course, there's the "getting fired, never finding a job in academe again, having to hire two wreckers and the jaws of life to remove Mrs. Love Zombie's foot from my ass" repercussions, so that's pretty much out.

Oddly on topic -- I actually tell my students that my bribe price is $1 million. Because if I get caught selling grades, I'll never work in my field again, and I'm not trained in any other. So it has to be worth it. And I tell them that anything ELSE that is offered would have to be worth the aforementioned million clams. Which might be an inappropriate slang term in this instance, but still...


But you teach coloring to 6 year olds...sicko
 
2010-03-27 02:19:17 PM
Times sure have changed. I knew a band teacher who dated one of his 18-year-old students. He was about 30 at the time. They ended up getting married a couple of years later. But that was 35 years ago. She was assumed to be an adult.
 
2010-03-27 02:20:51 PM
On behalf of the eighteen year old girl, I think it's completely bigoted to assume she is too immature and young to consent to sex without being victimized somehow in the process.

I don't think it was the most morally correct behavior on earth, but why not let the guy's reputation punish him enough?
 
2010-03-27 02:23:34 PM
Banging someone over the age of consent, even if you are their teacher/in a position of authority over them, should not be illegal. Grounds for dismissal? Maybe. That's up to the school or whatever institution is involved. But illegal? Definitely not. The whole point about the Age of Consent is that the Law believes the person is old enough to make decisions for themselves. By prosecuting someone who has sex with someone who has reached the age of consent, the Law is contradicting itself. It's saying the person cannot consent to agree to sex with certain people.

My brother argued it better than that, but then again he's a lawyer.
 
2010-03-27 02:27:11 PM
jake3988: You can't get arrested for banging an 18 year old. In ANY state. There's no 'You can... but not if you're a teacher' clause.

You most certainly CAN be arrested for a lot of things, including this. I have no idea if anyone's ever been convicted. Several states have had such laws on the books and had their constitutionality challenged. This seems to be Iowa's turn:

Link (new window)

But nowhere is there a reference to this applying to college. That would be beyond idiotic.
 
2010-03-27 02:27:45 PM
No Catchy Nickname: By prosecuting someone who has sex with someone who has reached the age of consent, the Law is contradicting itself.

... and proving the government does pretty much what it damn well pleases, law be damned.
 
Displayed 50 of 129 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Last | Show all



This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report