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2003-04-30 10:30:02 AM
republicans like to focus attention on other people's sex lifes, definately not their own. When it happens to them though, it is usually recieved as the fall of decency due to dems prying into their lives. Yes that makes sense in a wierd FranceSurrenders kind of logic.
 
2003-04-30 10:31:56 AM
Bmr68
The only morons here are the ones that think he is.

VERY existential. And defensive. Keep it up.
 
2003-04-30 10:37:11 AM
why don't all you self-righteous, self serving, left-wing, liberal, democrat fruitcakes save your G. W. Bush bashing for another forum. your all the same with your my-crap-don,t-stink train of thought
 
2003-04-30 10:39:54 AM
Badkaroaoke

Have to keep it simple for most Canadians.
 
2003-04-30 10:46:01 AM
Enave - You forgot to include sympathy-math.

Comments_About_Chelsea * How_Much_I_Like_Clinton == Comments_About_Bush-Daughter / How_Much_I_Hate_Bush

Let's face it, we all do that.


Well, first off, I don't hate Bush. I just think it's a dangerous thing to be such a party loyalist that you can't or won't acknowledge any of your "leader's" shortcomings, and/or get irate when anyone else does. I make the same statement regarding Dem's who tap-dance around the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal.

Second:

Making cruel jokes about a pre-pubescent girl who has no control over her "looks" or the fact that she's been thrust into the sspotlight.

vs.

Trying to aquire a video that is the direct result of a college student's own choice to knock back a few and attend a party naked.

Yup, I still think the former is much worse...

I mean, where is all the personal responsibility you guys like to preach so much about? She got schnockered, she got naked, and allegedly she got taped... She knows she's the President's daughter, it's kind of silly to not be aware of the relative riskiness of attending a party in your birthday suit.
 
2003-04-30 10:47:29 AM
No reflection on the Bush daughters, they no doubt will marry into a wealthy, influential political family that stay involved in politics for decades and elects many publice servants that kill brown people for oil.

This whole killing brown people thing is really old, If white people were living there and acting like morons we would kill them too. To prove my point, we did it just over 50 years ago in Europe.
 
2003-04-30 11:04:07 AM
HomestarJunior - Say what you will about W but he does produce hittable girls.

Oh, I can certainly agree with that... I'm completely bipartisan there.

Bush Girls + Gore Girls = Lots of hot "rich girl" goodness.
 
2003-04-30 11:06:09 AM
Why is no one talking about the naked yale parties.

NAKED YALE PARTIES!

Someone must have more info on this... please?


Yeah, it's true. Daddy bush was involved in one where he masturbated inside a coffin, while telling of every sexual episode he ever had - while a bunch of dudes watched. It's true. It's called a 'skull and bones' initiation. Look it up. Like they say "The cap doesn't fall far from the bottle".
 
2003-04-30 11:06:18 AM
Bmr68

Have to keep it simple for most Republicans.

Exactly.
 
2003-04-30 11:14:14 AM
I'd like to bury my face in the bush sisters snatch's .
Stereo Bush.
 
2003-04-30 11:18:34 AM
Ok I might not have been clear enough the first time here gos This is a defining difference between the conservative and the socialist mindset. For an example I do not like Little Tommy Daschel I have 0% respect for him, I believe that he sold his office and his honor. If he approached me I would give him fair warning to stay away from me. If he did not stay away from me I would knock him down (even though I really do not enjoy knocking down weak little men). If Little Tommy knew me he would not like me either (a point of pride for me). Anyway It would never occur to me to attack Little Tommys children, If I any kind of picture of his kids that some one sneaked, I would throw it away. Because I know the difference between right and wrong, and I am capable of doing the right thing for no other reason than it is the right thing to do. Many democrats or socialists like Larry and Tommy do not have that capacity they have to attack the children of their enemies because there is no right or no wrong they have no restraints.. Many conservatives not only have the capacity but just do the right thing naturally they have self imposed restraints.

Once more for the example....To look at a naked woman that posed for and wishes for you to look at naked pictures of her is right and can be a near holy experience....To look at pictures of a naked woman that some sneak took with out her consent is wrong and can be a damning experience.
 
2003-04-30 11:24:11 AM
Larry Flynnt is such a sketchy, scary guy. In all seriousness, if he didn't have "Hustler", he would probably be a serial rapist, sitting in Maximum Security somewhere. If he was going after my daughter, I would buy a large-caliber handgun and it would become like an extension of my arm. Same goes for my daughter. Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes I know nobody is forced to pose for "Hustler", and they do it of their own accord, and they are paid, but that doesn't lessen Larry's creep-out factor.
 
2003-04-30 11:24:46 AM
Penrod

So you know for sure that the person who filmed her was a Democrat.

And you also seem to know that the Democrats somehow sponsered this.

And that Larry Flynt is only doing this for his sudden political ambition.

And all of these conservatives have met the standards that you just claimed conservatives have....


Let's see... out of the right-wing biblethumpers who condemmed Bill Clinton for consensual oral sex, we have such upstanding paragons of morality such as:

Newt Gingrich, who divorced his first wife as she lay dieing of cancer in order do marry a younger woman, who he later left for a staffer he was farking on the side.

Bob Dole, who cheated on his first wife with multiple women, finally abandoning her (and his children) for the current Mrs. Elizabeth Dole.

Henry "Homewrecker" Hyde, who broke up a woman's marriage with a 'youthful indescresion' that lasted 6 years.

Bob Barr, who cheated on all three of his wives, forced his second wife to have an abortion against her will, then lied about it.

Rush Limbaugh, who's on his 4th marriage.

Former Rep. Bob Dornan, who admits to cheating on and beating his wife.

Rep. Dan Burton, who has had (at last count) 6 affairs, one of which that produced a bastard child to whom he refuses to speak.

Sen. Strom Thurmond, who at age 88 cheated on his 4th wife.

Former Sen. Bob Packwood, who enjoyed getting liquored up and trying to rape his interns.

Former Rep. Michael Huffington, who cheated on his wife with men he met through a personals ad looking for S&M.

Tom Delay, who is still paying hush-money to one of his former 'side-projects'.

And that's not to mention Dr. Laura or former-governor Bush, or his father, which would force this list to several pages to cover all of their crimes.

And now this guy... par for the course for a republican I guess.
 
2003-04-30 11:25:55 AM
Penrod, either you posted in the wrong thread, or I did. I thought this was about Larry Flynt and the video of a naked Bush.
 
2003-04-30 11:27:51 AM
Yeah definitely wrong thread. Mod, please delete my posts. I thought I was posting in "Larry Flynt offering $1 million for alleged video showing Barbara Bush Jr nude", not "Asshat Political flameware du jour".
 
2003-04-30 11:28:40 AM
2 questions:
1. I need a photo of them both to make this link fapable
2. And what is supposed be on that video?
 
2003-04-30 11:31:26 AM
 
2003-04-30 11:33:16 AM
Ivy Leaguers relieve stress by doffing their duds and drinking some suds.

This is the stupidest thing I have ever read.

I would hit it

I am basically a Republican and even I know Bush is a complete moron.
 
2003-04-30 11:33:31 AM
Jonr- Uh, that was one question and a statement. :)
 
2003-04-30 11:42:27 AM
Penrod - This is a defining difference between the conservative and the socialist mindset...

Many democrats or socialists like Larry and Tommy do not have that capacity they have to attack the children of their enemies because there is no right or no wrong they have no restraints.. Many conservatives not only have the capacity but just do the right thing naturally they have self imposed restraints.

So, you're saying that the defining difference between the conservative and liberal
mindsets is that conservatives

a)Use extremist slurs in reference to their opponents, i.e. Democrat or liberal, magically becomes "socialist."

and

b) Make ridiculous and sweeping generalizations about the character of people based solely on where they are aligned on the political spectrum.

I truly hope that was flame-bait, and that you're not that farking stupid. If you were being sincere, then you are one frightening, frightening little man, and a scary harbinger of where our political system is headed.

As for the video, I've already I said I thought it was wrong. I'm merely pointing out to the supposed "party of personal responsibility" that when you're in the spotlight, (whether by choice or by family) you should be aware that getting naked at a party is a risk proposition. If you choose to do so, you should be prepared to accept the responsibility of your own bad decision.

Compare that to a little girl who is cursed with what some consider to be "less than stellar" looks (through no choice of her own) and who is subjected to cruel jokes at the hands of grown men. Chelsea Clinton was taunted for being "ugly," she had no choice in her looks, or in her parents, she clearly chose to remain out of the spotlight, and yet people still made horrible jokes at her expense.

They're both wrong, but in one of the scenarios, the "victim" had a choice.

(By the way, where were those inherent, hard-wired conservative principles of right and wrong when they were making vicious comments about a little girl?)
 
2003-04-30 11:58:02 AM
This is the last on thisdoes right or wrong.hinge only on if there is or is not an over riding legal authority meaning that if the governmemt will not arrest you for doing a thing, then that thing is the right thing to do??? What the heck I give up those of the simple mind will not even understand the question Ta Ta all.........
 
2003-04-30 12:04:34 PM
Larry Flynt has done some important work in cosmology I accept, but that "Brief History of Time" book he wrote was a nightmare to read.
 
2003-04-30 12:04:43 PM
man, i hate all this "chelsea is ugly" crap. yeah, she's not a model, but neither are you. she's wicked smart, really nice, a great conversationalist, and surprisingly down to earth. plus, her legs are really nice and she's pretty cute in person.
as for this video tape fiasco - if you are famous and get naked in a public or semi-public area, you are dumb. however, i feel bad for people thrust into the spotlight because they are related to someone famous (chelsea, barbara, jenna) - they lose their privacy because of someone else's decision. and by the way, there's no tape. but larry flynt still makes me smile.a
 
2003-04-30 12:05:21 PM
What the heck I give up those of the simple mind will not even understand the question Ta Ta all.........

Huh?

She broke no laws attending a party naked.

No laws were broken filming her naked.

No laws broken by reproducing that film if it exists.

Keep your clothes on if your Daddy is a republican president claiming to represent the values of the christian coalition.
 
2003-04-30 12:11:54 PM
The only conservative that commented on the looks of a former presidents child is Rush Limbaugh. His mother immediately called him on the private line and took him to task for his comments. He put her on the air and was scolded in front of his 20 million listeners. He apologized and admitted the error of his ways, because he had the POTENTIAL to do the right thing and realized it. I contend that Tommy, Larry and Billy do not have the potential and should not be expected to do the right thing except by accident.
 
2003-04-30 12:16:58 PM
The "only" conservative Penrod?
 
2003-04-30 12:22:49 PM
And what of those mysterious pictures that the Republicans allegedly took of Ross Perot's daughter? That was a strong innuendo by Perot that the pictures were pretty freaky, if they existed.
 
2003-04-30 12:27:31 PM
 
2003-04-30 12:30:59 PM
boobies is boobies. get over it or piss off.
 
2003-04-30 12:44:53 PM
Sorry, but I have to say it- Penrod is an asshat!!!!

It's morons like him that are the reason everything is so f'd up right now. And don't give me that liberal dem BS- I'm allegedly a republican, though I'm ashamed to admit it with all these neo-cons running the show.
 
2003-04-30 12:47:07 PM
Flynt's cohorts are scouring the New Haven, Conn., campus of Yale University, where Barbara, 21, is a student, in hopes of buying a video supposedly made at one of Yale's notorious "naked parties."

Wait a second... what's this talk about notorious "naked parties" at Yale? Any Yale students or grads out there care to elaborate?
 
2003-04-30 01:01:00 PM
if this video does in fact exist; if the bush administration were intelligent, they would have cheney start a bidding war with flint. cheney made like ~38 million in 2001, shouldn't be a budgeting issue.

(i.e. cheney would destroy said tape and the BAdmin would deny its existance)
 
2003-04-30 01:02:12 PM
I suppose I must be the one to ask the all-important question......

Does she do tentacle porn????

Mmmmm.... tentacles!!!!
 
2003-04-30 01:03:28 PM
Looks like Barbara's federally protected wetlands are open for drilling.

//Borrowed from the Onion
 
2003-04-30 01:05:49 PM
Penrod - This is the last on thisdoes right or wrong.hinge only on if there is or is not an over riding legal authority meaning that if the governmemt will not arrest you for doing a thing, then that thing is the right thing to do??? What the heck I give up those of the simple mind will not even understand the question Ta Ta all.........

Well, you're right I imagine few will understand the question, but I think that's more a product of poor wording on the writer's part than lack of comprehension on the reader's part.

I think what you're trying to say is "is ethical behavior really a product of ethics when it's only practiced because of compulsory measures, i.e. law?" Good question... I'm not sure how it relates to this thread as no one on either side is accusing anyone of anything illegal, but it's a good question.

The only conservative that commented on the looks of a former presidents child is Rush Limbaugh. His mother immediately called him on the private line and took him to task for his comments. He put her on the air and was scolded in front of his 20 million listeners.

Yup, he was the only one. Funny, I didn't see or hear about that, and I rarely if ever have watched Rush, yet I recall plenty of jokes made about Chelsea's looks.

He apologized and admitted the error of his ways, because he had the POTENTIAL to do the right thing and realized it.

Or, he saw a chance for some good TV/radio, and as a wise entertainer he took it. It sounds more like opportunism on both counts to me, make fun of defenseless little girl... Get good TV moment when "Mom" calls. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing was pre-arranged. If you don't at least suspect that it was set up before hand, you're being alarmingly naive.

I mean really, what are the chances his mom could get through to him immediately during the taping or airing of his show? Speakign as a former television producer, I can tell you they're probably pretty slim, "private line" or not.

I contend that Tommy, Larry and Billy do not have the potential and should not be expected to do the right thing except by accident.

Well, that's just faulty logic... and it's just plain stupid. Regardless of how you align yourself politically, to believe that all (or even a majority) of the memebers of one party are saintly pillars of ethics and morality, while the other party is filled with immoral degenerates is just plain naive and simplistic.
 
2003-04-30 01:44:44 PM
listening to democrats/republicans, so-called-conservatives/so-called-liberals argue these days is like listening to two 12-year-olds arguing over why their favorite pro wrestler is gooder than the other one...
 
2003-04-30 01:48:31 PM
In reading Penrod's posts, I find it amusing that he (or she) postures that those who disagree with him (or her) just don't understand the arguments he is making because it is too complex or even sublime. In fact, for the most part it is simply incomprehensible given the complete absence of spelling, grammar and syntax. The parts that shine through those problems are of course ludicrous, but I for one am glad that Penrod can find some comfort in the delusion that he or she is above the rest of us.
 
2003-04-30 02:12:57 PM
From what I've heard, the naked parties at Yale are just that- totally nude. Nothing allowed, including and especially video cameras and the like. It's not just like half the party drops trou while the other half stands around and oggles. MMMM, smart rich naked kids....
 
2003-04-30 02:16:09 PM
Gnosis79: Thanks for that pic. I'm going to get a lot of mileage from that one!

Rightmindx: Wait a second... what's this talk about notorious "naked parties" at Yale? Any Yale students or grads out there care to elaborate?

See my earlier post from 11:06:09:Yeah, it's true. Daddy bush was involved in one where he masturbated inside a coffin, while telling of every sexual episode he ever had - while a bunch of dudes watched. It's true. It's called a 'skull and bones' initiation. Look it up. Like they say "The cap doesn't fall far from the bottle". ]

Sounds like those Yale "nekid" parties SUCK!
 
2003-04-30 02:19:27 PM
Xtremehkr

Well done.

I applaud Flynt's work to expose the witch-hunt conservatives guilty of sexual hypocracy (the guy took down a Speaker of the House, for crissakes!), but with this he's involving their families.  That's not right.
 
2003-04-30 02:35:55 PM
Check out the Bush sisters' home page.

The headline for this should include the phrase: "the party of personal responsibility surrenders."

As for the Naked Parties, a little googling turns up some guy's account of his first Naked Party. He says that props are encouraged while staring is not.
 
2003-04-30 03:48:35 PM
"I wonder how much Larry would pay for these pics I have of the Olsen twins naked? Any one else want them? They are a couple years old."

Yuck! I hope you mean the PICTURES are that old.
I didn't like the Olsens on Full House and I still don't like them now. Who cares if they're getting better looking... they were responsible for one of the worst sitcoms in history. In my eyes, they're still the obnoxious orangutangs girls they were fifteen years ago when Full House debuted.

JR
 
2003-04-30 04:03:17 PM
Captain_Buttwind

I am not trying to justify it, just annoyed at the hypocrites trying to villify it. She should have known better though, really, she is the presidents daughter and no one has broken any laws.
 
2003-04-30 04:21:23 PM
I'd pay a few bucks to see those daughters on Bangbus.
 
2003-04-30 04:22:04 PM
Not that I look at those kinda sites or anything.
 
2003-04-30 04:34:26 PM
Can we get more pics?
 
2003-04-30 05:04:08 PM
If you people believe that video of a naked party at Yale exists, then you probably think "The Skulls" was a documentary film, too.
 
2003-04-30 05:36:13 PM
Alright, to the endless list of people on this thread who think Larry Flynt's current escapade is a great way to get back at the President, I say this:

You are bunch of pathetic cowards. Simple enough. How can anyone consider it legitimate to attack someone through their family? This goes for everyone, whether we are talking about the Bush daugthers, Chelsea Clinton, or yourself.

What happened to challenging political opponents through debate, rather than attacking their children, who have NOTHING to do with their politics (which again, goes for everyone)? Bush's daughters have no part in his administration, nor are they fair game for constantly putting themselves in the medias eye (since they don't). I don't think you would be too please if someone who didn't like you offered millions of dollars for comprimising photos of your children or wife. I'm not sure what is happening to politics in this country, but ever since the 80's, both major parties have become complete scandal whores, and it is rather disgusting.

I don't care whether you like President Bush or not. Larry Flynt is an asshat and always has been one. Though, I must admit Hustler is a better mag than Playboy or Penthouse, but who needs magazines when you have the internet.
 
2003-04-30 06:50:20 PM
I think a million is way too much for such a tape. She isnt even that hot.
 
2003-04-30 07:50:28 PM
And in other news, Larry Flynt is offering one million dollars for bail out of prison for being a flaming tard.
 
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