Hunting and Trapping History
The take of coyotes by hunters has been relatively stable during the past 10 years, about 13,000 hunters taking an average of between 30,000 and 40,000 coyotes a year.
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This is the thread all the AR shooters should post in with their varmint caliber guns :)

/us old farts shoot 7.62x51
// older farts shoot 7.62x63

FloydA

Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
May become a hick when the hick-bane blooms
and the moon is full and bright,
then he'll have sex with his cousin and forget how to read and write.


*golf clap*

Coyotes are becoming fairly common in New York City. Soon they'll have a Coyote Control Department with a Commissioner, several Vice-Commissioners, Chauffeurs, office staff, public relations staff, research staff and a guy who catches coyotes and releases them somewhere.

i.r.id10t: This is the thread all the AR shooters should post in with their varmint caliber guns :)

/us old farts shoot 7.62x51
// older farts shoot 7.62x63

Me, we had a .222 in the foyer just for "dogs." My dad was maniacal about killing them, he broke the said .222's stock on a "dog" in a trap.
/There's not a lot cooler than listening to a pack kill
/unless it's you goddamn peacock!

i.r.id10t: This is the thread all the AR shooters should post in with their varmint caliber guns :)

/us old farts shoot 7.62x51
// older farts shoot 7.62x63

Whipper snapper.


7.62x54R
8x56R
.30 Gov't (aka .30 US, .30 Army, .30-40 Krag)

There's coyotes in my neighborhood. Trust me all you need is a yorkie and you'll have that coyote's complete attention. They even got a golden retriever last week. There's alot of "Lost Dog" posters around here with the dog's picture on it. It should just say "Coyote Poop"

Meanwhile there are 42 convenience stores being robbed, 18 banks being robbed and uncounted Meth addicts committing armed robberies.

... it takes John Goodman in the supporting role of a lifetime!!!

No Ron White references?

/good shot, Poot.

I'm in Alabama. It depends on the bb gun. One of those little wimpy ones, no. But a pump action, pellet gun or the kind with CO2 cartridges, yeah, you could possibly kill a coyote with that. It would be a lingering death, though. He'd die from loss of blood or infection.

Also, the kid wouldn't have to be 12, probably an 8 year old could do it. Maybe a 4 year old if he's precocious.

JesseL: i.r.id10t: This is the thread all the AR shooters should post in with their varmint caliber guns :)

/us old farts shoot 7.62x51
// older farts shoot 7.62x63

Whipper snapper.


7.62x54R
8x56R
.30 Gov't (aka .30 US, .30 Army, .30-40 Krag)

Mosin Nagant FTW. Ive got one in the closet...pretty good condition, but Ive yet to get up the nuts to fire it. SOmething about firing a high power cartridge in a 60+ year old gun makes me nervous...

They didn't put an undercover out in a sheep suit?

extreme glow: If this were Alabama...

Subjunctive tense people!

If this WERE in Indiana? LOL.

AR-15, Dachshund, and a wounded rabbit call.

Sultan Of Herf:
Mosin Nagant FTW. Ive got one in the closet...pretty good condition, but Ive yet to get up the nuts to fire it. SOmething about firing a high power cartridge in a 60+ year old gun makes me nervous...

The bottom rifle in my pic is 114 years old, still safe and slicker than greased owl shiat. Not really high power, but big enough for any game in North America.

Odds are that your rifle is just fine, but if you're really worried, have your Mosin checked out by a reputable gunsmith.

I'm not sure whether I should take that as a compliment or an insult.

...and them's good vittles.

.270, electronic calls, spotlights, couple joints > good times...

OregonVet: BB? No. 22 mag, probably. But one should really go .223 or bigger. I prefer the .44 'cause I like 'em close and I'm not interested in the pelt.

Agreed, but a .177 pellet would do the job.

.22WMR would be crossing the line into dangerous in a city.

I could whack it in the heart with a Beeman silver arrow pellet from 200 yards if it was cooperative.

Nyxxxx: I'm in Alabama. It depends on the bb gun. One of those little wimpy ones, no. But a pump action, pellet gun or the kind with CO2 cartridges, yeah, you could possibly kill a coyote with that. It would be a lingering death, though. He'd die from loss of blood or infection.

Also, the kid wouldn't have to be 12, probably an 8 year old could do it. Maybe a 4 year old if he's precocious.

In my neighborhood, we have 10 year olds driving mules with their hunting rifles and/or fishing gear in the back. Don't know if they kill much, but they sure look like they're having fun.

theknuckler_33: Was trying to find the Hogwallop boy from Oh Brother, Where Art Thou on a GIS, but alas, my Google-fu is weak.

/I nicked the census man

That's because he R-U-N-N-O-F-T

My son with his first deer at age 6. He shot it with a cut-down NEF .223 from about 125 yards.

It was delicious!

JesseL: 7.62x54R

About a year ago, I got an M44 Russian. It was as mint as an old rifle could be without having to get rid of the cosmoline. It was pristine.

Rule #one. Keep buttstock firmly against your shoulder. No, really.

Rule #two. If your elevation is good and you shoot way to far to the left... Extend the bayonet. Russian rifles were sited in with the bayonet extended. That advice pulled my shots 6 to 8 inches to the right.

If you get a beat up version, that advice may not work. I've owned a "like new" version and a beat up (that one was Chinese. still had good sites and was fairly accurate with the bayonet retracted). I liked them both.


For anybody new to the sport/collecting... Enjoy your cosmoline. Nobody else has.

Wait a minute - are these are the same bumbling goofy-accented clowns who are claiming pizza superiority?

Some Mosin fun, including a AR vs. M44 competition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYm-KqzqD2A

(not a Rickroll)

Yes the nasally dork in the gray shirt is me.

It's a fully urbanised city with a large police force. When something happens, far more coppers go there than are necessary. It's just standard practice. If a store is robbed in a little suburban town, there is one cop car sent to take a statement. If a store is robbed in NYC or my hometown of Chicago, a swarm of cruisers tie up the street while parked all jumble-fark, and the coppers they contained all mill about with their fingers up their noses and posteriors.

This isn't a slam against cops, per se. They are no different in that regard from other city workers. We have a saying here: What's blue and sleeps six? A Streets & Sanitation* truck. Part of it is unions, of course. But a lot of it is that you have so many coppers out there because so many are needed - but most of them are not busy at any given moment so they all come to "participate" in catching the coyote or responding to the report of a liquor store hold-up.

*Also works with Department of Water Management.

NakedApe: Coyotes are becoming fairly common in New York City. Soon they'll have a Coyote Control Department with a Commissioner, several Vice-Commissioners, Chauffeurs, office staff, public relations staff, research staff and a guy who catches coyotes and releases them somewhere.

Hey, anything to help the job market.

I saw this on the news earlier and laughed my ass off at the sea of blue pouring out of that parking lot. They didn't have that many police at the Yankees-Red Sox game I went to when a mini-riot broke out.

Cool vid, JesseL. Evidently I'm not the only one who has heard of the "bayonet extended rule". Most people don't believe it.

Night, all.

Sultan Of Herf: Mosin Nagant FTW. Ive got one in the closet...pretty good condition, but Ive yet to get up the nuts to fire it. SOmething about firing a high power cartridge in a 60+ year old gun makes me nervous...

If you are worried about it you could take it to an armorer to be checked out. I shoot the Nagant my dad gave me all the time. He brought it back from Vietnam and hung it over the fireplace. He knew I liked it and went shooting often so he gave it to me as a birthday present. I stripped it and checked everything out before taking it to the range. It felt odd firing a gun when you knew that the last time it fired was at your father. They built them solid, so as long as there isn't a rust problem you should be golden.

Raptor7: Why the unmarked police cars?

how else would they sneak up on the illegal coyote that smuggled itself into manhattan

FloydA: extreme glow: If this were Alabama...



Were-Alabama?

Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
May become a hick when the hick-bane blooms
and the moon is full and bright,
then he'll have sex with his cousin and forget how to read and write.

I'm scared, what kills a were-alabaman? silver bullets? a spike driven into his beating heart? A college level physics textbook?

Englebert Slaptyback: How much kinetic energy do you think is in a small lead pellet traveling ~650fps??

I'm estimating the mass of the pellet, since there's a range. Lets call it 2g, at 200 m/s

About 40 joules of kinetic energy.

JesseL: TommyDeuce: moops: No, an eight year old with a twelve gage. They're driving bass boats by then, why not?

Actually a 12 gauge might be a bit much, and the bb gun is a little light. For a kid that age, I'd go with a .222, less kick then a .223 or a 22-250, but still plenty to drop a 'yote.

/30-06 or a 7mm does make a bigger cloud of red mist though.

There is nobody who is too small to handle the recoil of a .223 or .22-250.

My .22-250:

Groups well under an inch @ 100 yards with the cheapest Winchester white box loads I can find.

That is a sweet rifle! We use the same caliber to kill prairie dogs here in TX!

armoredbulldozer: That is a sweet rifle! We use the same caliber to kill prairie dogs here in TX!

Thank you! That rifle was built by my Grandfather from a surplus Mauser action and it's definitely one of my favorites, never to be sold.

I got to do some prairie dog shooting for the first time last summer up in Utah (visiting the Mad Ogre), and the effect of the .22-250 on those critters is spectacular (warning: gruesome).

extreme glow: If this were Alabama...

Subjunctive tense people!

Actually your wrong, its not in the subjunctive tense. If it were, then it would be using a "may" or "might". It is written in the Imperfect tense. Though you are correct in correcting it from "was" to "were", since it is in the 3rd Singular. Just thought I would let you know.

Hah! To catch me, it would only take a cute girl holding a dozen donuts.

Oh... you weren't talking about me.

/guess which I'd eat first

Still at large

FloydA: Williammd: extreme glow: If this were Alabama...

Subjunctive tense people!

Actually your wrong, its not in the subjunctive tense. If it were, then it would be using a "may" or "might". It is written in the Imperfect tense. Though you are correct in correcting it from "was" to "were", since it is in the 3rd Singular. Just thought I would let you know.


/Sorry- I couldn't resist. :-)

Haha by all means. I need all the help I can get.

FloydA: Williammd:

Haha by all means. I need all the help I can get.

I'm sure there's one of those internet laws- any post that corrects someone's spelling or grammar will inevitably have a spelling or grammatical mistake. It's like Rule 34 for language nerds like me! :-)

I could just try and pretend I did it on purpose to prove a point, or it could be that what little knowledge I have of grammar I must throw in other peoples faces.

Coyote Doyenne: Hah! To catch me, it would only take a cute girl holding a dozen donuts.

Oh... you weren't talking about me.

/guess which I'd eat first

I was hoping you'd show up to this thread, as i wanted an excuse to see your tail and Heamer impersonation ;-)

AS to the girl vs donut: i say you would glaze the girl with the donut and enjoy both at teh same time.

rebelyell2006 Quote 2010-03-25 07:15:48 PM
grinderman: Wildlife problem? Call an ignorant backwoods hayseed!

/Ha ha! Stereotype!

A backwoods hayseed would just shoot it, instead of trying to catch it.


In other words, the truly ignorant are in New York. Of course, what else would you expect from people who think that steaks come from the meat department and corn is grown in the cans in isle 7.

I like the unmarked cop cars, those coyotes will never know what hit em