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(Gothamist)   Michelle Obama ends the Pizza Wars, declares New York better than Chicago   (gothamist.com) divider line 649
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2010-03-25 05:16:15 PM
O' Calamaro (new window) laughs at your insignificant pizza battle.
 
2010-03-25 05:17:06 PM
MorePeasPlease: My pet peeve is when people pronounce it "peet-zuh".
It is said exactly the way it is spelled, how can you screw it up?
It is one of the easiest words to say.


After your mouse-pizza thing, I refuse to give any weight to anything you say.
 
2010-03-25 05:19:34 PM
Fellow pizza lovers! We should not be fighting amongst ourselves. We should all just agree that pizza is awesome, and focus our hatred where it matters:

the BBQ wars.
 
2010-03-25 05:25:15 PM
What kind of moran would exclude any type of pizza from their diet? It's meat, it's cheese it's baked bread.... thick, thin who gives a crap, it's ALL good.
 
2010-03-25 05:26:25 PM
Chicago pizza > New York pizza. That is all.
 
2010-03-25 05:27:21 PM
Best I ever had, up and down the Eastern Seaboard:


http://www.zuppardisapizza.com/ (new window)

West Haven, CT
 
2010-03-25 05:31:27 PM
the-recourse.com

Giordano's and Palermo's FTW!

For the record Deep Dish didn't really take off in Chicago until the mid 70's. Prior to 1974 I had never heard of Deep Dish pizza and I lived in Chicago my whole life.

Giordano's BEFORE they franchised the Hell out of the place WAS the best Deep Dish and Stuffed pizza around.

But for the last 20 years or so, it's become average or so so at best.

But if you were lucky enough to eat at Giordano's in the 70's or 80's when it was really special, you know what I'm talking about.

I still go there from time to time, but Palermo's thin crust is king in my book!
 
2010-03-25 05:34:12 PM
huntercr: you do realize that the "wheel made of bread" is cheese and toppings inside, right? The "bread' is on the outside.

Of course he doesn't. Like I said, the folks out on the East Coast do not have the cognitive machinery to understand foods with interior. This is why they like things like flat pizza and minute steaks with thin-sliced provolone: they can understand it by looking at the outside.

Naturally they see a deep dish pizza and assume that the inside must be the same stuff the outside is made from. Why do you think all the Coke machines switched over to clear plastic bottles? New Yorkers assumed that the cans were solid aluminum.
 
2010-03-25 05:35:04 PM
eddievercetti: You all lose, the best is



from Phoenix!

/The world's best pizza to be exact


Better pizza w/out the snobbery, Chibo:
Link (new window)
 
2010-03-25 05:38:33 PM
mieriwi: Born in NY, raised in NJ, and live in Chicago. NJ - best pizza. NY - close second (and yes, I think there is a difference).

You sound orange.
 
2010-03-25 05:40:34 PM
Thus proving what I've been saying all along. The Obamas are farking communists.
 
2010-03-25 05:41:40 PM
MorePeasPlease: mtylerjr: Fail. It's pronounced Peet-tsa. The i is a long e sound, the two zs are pronounced as a ts, with a noticable pause between them.(The word is Italian, and Italian is very phonetically regular) - peet-tsa

Just like the Italian word Piazza is pyat-tsa, and not "pi-ah-zuh"

Pronouncing it "pee-zuh" or something like that is like mispronouncing Fajita as "Fudge-it-ah"


No, you must not have fully read my post.
It is pronounced "it", not "Peet-tsa".


Sorry - but it's a long e sound. That is how the letter i is pronounced in -all- italian words. Peet-tsa, not pit-tsa. They may pronounce it differently in your local dialect, but thats peculiar to your local dialect, and... "wrong."

If you want to hear it pronounced correctly in English, click here (new window)
 
2010-03-25 05:44:14 PM
Andric: Fellow pizza lovers! We should not be fighting amongst ourselves. We should all just agree that pizza is awesome, and focus our hatred where it matters:

the BBQ wars.


Shut up hippie. There can be no peace. No negotiation. You don't negotiate with fungus. That's what the "New York Style" heretics are. Fungus.
 
2010-03-25 05:44:24 PM
I'd have to say that Adrienne's Pizzabar down on Stone St is one of my favorite NY pizza's. The crust on their classic pizza is amazing.
 
2010-03-25 05:45:34 PM
I can't believe there's already 566 posts on this topic.
 
2010-03-25 05:47:33 PM
Pastrami pizza from Paisano's in Hermosa Beach.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2010-03-25 05:47:52 PM
Damn all you people, now I have to get pizza for supper.
 
2010-03-25 05:50:29 PM
These guys are ok and chained around the south,
www.atlantadowntown.com
But the best I've ever had (more NY style than Chicago) was in Savannah, Ga
Vinnie's has the best pizza I've ever had..
Live in Chicago and it doesn't compare...
Lived and New York and it's just not as good

t1.gstatic.com
 
2010-03-25 05:51:06 PM
Tatsuma: People on Fark who idolize bacon have the palette of a retarded butt-sniffing chimp.

www.animal-forum.co.uk

What a bacon idol might look like.


"...the palette of a retarded butt-sniffing chimp"

*** 1st grader like writing detected ***

/thinks the summon Tatsuma card needs some fixin
 
2010-03-25 05:55:42 PM
Bocce's
Buffalo, NY
 
2010-03-25 06:01:46 PM
luckcat: There is only one true pizza:



/flame on


That looks like a scab I peeled off the other day, but magnified. I'm headed over to Lou Malnati's. New York pizza is good for lining the floor of bird cages or lubricating pistons, not for eating.
 
2010-03-25 06:04:10 PM
JERRY: Is it Famous Ray's?

KRAMER: No. It's Original Ray's.

JERRY: Famous Original Ray's?

KRAMER: It's just Original, Jerry!

RAYS PIZZA. No comparison. fark you,Chicago!
 
2010-03-25 06:08:38 PM
tricycleracer: "Post obscure pizza places from your hometown" thread!
profile.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2010-03-25 06:15:58 PM
 
2010-03-25 06:16:13 PM
Frank N Stein:

Why do you hate America?
 
2010-03-25 06:19:34 PM
YOU LIE
 
2010-03-25 06:21:08 PM
I laugh at all this retarded combativeness since the absolute BEST Pizza place just opened near my house. Have never had anything so delicious. It's called Domino's Pizza. I think Domino is an Italian dude.
 
2010-03-25 06:31:35 PM
Another vote for the New York pizza.

If you're ever in Waco TX, stop by Poppa Rollo's. It's the best pizza I've ever had.
 
2010-03-25 06:36:02 PM
I've...heard tell of such places west of the Cascades. Some believe they are only legend.
 
2010-03-25 06:38:42 PM
west=east

As if anyone is reading this or caught that

/Northlake Pizza rules
 
2010-03-25 06:39:42 PM
Nightsweat: Man, it's really revealing that the New Yorkers are so insecure about their "pizza"everything. I guess when a better idea comes along, they just can't handle the competition

FTFM
 
2010-03-25 06:54:36 PM
Arklop: T.M.S.: The First Lady and her daughters escaped to New York


I'd rather Escape From New York.


I was very sad when Noe Valley Pizza closed last year, but very happy when at almost the same time the Mission branch of Escape opened up, just three blocks from my house.
 
2010-03-25 06:58:10 PM
Detroit pizza FTW!

I mean, we have the best of both worlds.

1) Great pizza parlor types (Luigi's, Buddy's, Tomatoes Apizza, Niki's, Green Lantern, etc).
2) We also have awesome chain pizza places like Jets and Happy's (no mention to Dominoes or Little Caesars for taste, but they are ridiculously cheap). There is something in that Jets sauce that is addictive.

/Suck it Chicago and New York. Don't you dare, DARE, think you know more about cooking and eating pizza than Detroit!
 
2010-03-25 07:00:44 PM
"The Pie" in Salt lake city is excellent. Big pie, great toppings. Down stairs like on "cheers".
 
2010-03-25 07:02:09 PM
Chicago, New York I love it all. I don't care what you call it, just put it in ma belly!!
 
2010-03-25 07:02:34 PM
I've skimmed through this thread and it seems like we have a lively debate going here.

I'm just going to put this out there. I like that kind of pizza with roasted garlic, fresh basil, sun-dried tomatoes, artichokes, and goat cheese. Am I an anti-American commie terrorist?

I also like paper-thin Neapolitan pizza torched for three minutes at 900°F, seven-pound Chicago pies, and pretty much everything in between. I mean why do we have to argue? It's all good. Except Papa John's. They can suck my nuts.
 
2010-03-25 07:17:35 PM
Fark each and every single one of you.
Now I want a pizza.
 
2010-03-25 07:20:58 PM
Cheeses H Rice: Giordano's and Palermo's FTW!

Giordano's grosses me out. The outer crust is way too thick and doughy. If I'm getting deep dish I have to get Lou Malnati's. Their crispy/buttery crust is freaking delicious...I can finish about 5/8 of one of their deep dish pizzas by myself before my stomach starts yelling at me to stop before it explodes.

/And then I eat the rest about 2 hours later.
 
2010-03-25 07:24:13 PM
Bevets: 1. Giordanos

2. Di Faras
3. Buddys
4. Grimaldis
5. Lombardis


I don't really agree entirely with this list, but this is the best post you have ever posted. Ever.
 
2010-03-25 07:28:38 PM
Done with work in 2 hours and then....

farm3.static.flickr.com
 
2010-03-25 07:35:46 PM
Let's compromise, people. Let's agree to meet halfway between New York City and Chicago.

So who's up for a trip to Buffalo?
 
2010-03-25 07:39:11 PM
mtylerjr: Sorry - but it's a long e sound. That is how the letter i is pronounced in -all- italian words. Peet-tsa, not pit-tsa. They may pronounce it differently in your local dialect, but thats peculiar to your local dialect, and... "wrong."

If you want to hear it pronounced correctly in English, click here (new window)



I think you're confused, the link you posted is to the word "pizza" not the word "it".
I'm sick of folks pronouncing it "peet-zuh" instead of "it".
 
2010-03-25 07:46:31 PM
MorePeasPlease: I think you're confused, the link you posted is to the word "pizza" not the word "it".
I'm sick of folks pronouncing it "peet-zuh" instead of "it".


Dude you're high. Have some pizza.
 
2010-03-25 07:48:59 PM
They're both really great when made properly.

That's the key right there... PROPERLY.

Chicago style is much more difficult to do well and there are lots of establishments that do it wrong. If it looks like a bread wheel or like someone made a thick chili on crust, that's crap. Chicago style has more in common with lasagna than New York style.

Like I said, they're both great and you can't really consider them interchangeable. If I want a quick lunch with friends I'll grab a New York slice. If I want a hearty sit-down dinner I'll grab a Chicago style.

There's a reason why each are considered regional dishes. It's like ordering Chinese takeout and expecting the actual delicacies you'd find in China. Fat chance. The further from that region you go, the less it'll resemble what it's supposed to be because the clients' standards and expectations will be close to nil.
 
2010-03-25 08:00:49 PM
garbagge59: Frank N Stein: Chicago area Farkers probably know this place. I worked their in HS. Their secret is putting grape jelly in the sauce. Srsly.

/I don't eat there.

I moved away from Chicago 15 years ago, but every time I visit family there, I take my wife and kids to an Aurelio's. My wife thought ALL chicago-style pizza was deep-dish, so she was surprised at how flat the pizza was when it came out.


Your wife is correct. Chicago-style pizza is the term for the deep dish pizza made popular in Chicago. Real pizza, made in Chicago, is just called "pizza" like everywhere else.
 
2010-03-25 08:13:49 PM
Isn't pizza made in Italy considered a snack or appetizer? No wonder you guys are sweating crisco.
 
2010-03-25 08:19:14 PM
Chicago fans if we want cake stuffed with pizza flavor we'll call you guys.
thanks for playing
NYC fans

a perfect pie is one you can devour a few slices and brews. save the rest for the am. cold pizza ftw. also we have that kind of pie in ny area too...its a stuffed slice and its for the calzone fans who are clostrophobic
 
2010-03-25 08:19:50 PM
WittyTagHere: Detroit pizza FTW!

I mean, we have the best of both worlds.

1) Great pizza parlor types (Luigi's, Buddy's, Tomatoes Apizza, Niki's, Green Lantern, etc).
2) We also have awesome chain pizza places like Jets and Happy's (no mention to Dominoes or Little Caesars for taste, but they are ridiculously cheap). There is something in that Jets sauce that is addictive.

/Suck it Chicago and New York. Don't you dare, DARE, think you know more about cooking and eating pizza than Detroit!


I'd say something insulting, but I'm askeered you'll put down your crack pipe and shoot me.
 
2010-03-25 08:23:38 PM
Nightsweat: WittyTagHere: Detroit pizza FTW!

I mean, we have the best of both worlds.

1) Great pizza parlor types (Luigi's, Buddy's, Tomatoes Apizza, Niki's, Green Lantern, etc).
2) We also have awesome chain pizza places like Jets and Happy's (no mention to Dominoes or Little Caesars for taste, but they are ridiculously cheap). There is something in that Jets sauce that is addictive.

/Suck it Chicago and New York. Don't you dare, DARE, think you know more about cooking and eating pizza than Detroit!

I'd say something insulting, but I'm askeered you'll put down your crack pipe and shoot me.


And honestly, it is just cruel to insult anyone from Detroit. They have enough problems as it is.
 
2010-03-25 08:26:50 PM
Xcott: huntercr: you do realize that the "wheel made of bread" is cheese and toppings inside, right? The "bread' is on the outside.

Of course he doesn't. Like I said, the folks out on the East Coast do not have the cognitive machinery to understand foods with interior. This is why they like things like flat pizza and minute steaks with thin-sliced provolone: they can understand it by looking at the outside.

Naturally they see a deep dish pizza and assume that the inside must be the same stuff the outside is made from. Why do you think all the Coke machines switched over to clear plastic bottles? New Yorkers assumed that the cans were solid aluminum.


yours are the only posts in this thread that have any sense to them whatsoever.
 
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