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(Gothamist)   Michelle Obama ends the Pizza Wars, declares New York better than Chicago   (gothamist.com) divider line 648
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2010-03-25 01:08:52 PM  
Tatsuma: I seriously believe that we should add 'Do you think Chicago-style is better than NY-style pizza?' to IQ tests, and that anyone answering yes should automatically be downgraded to below 90.

Oh have some fun. Look at this thread: It's everyone from the politics tab goofing off to debate some silly crap.

/NY is better.
 
2010-03-25 01:11:15 PM  
I Said: It's everyone from the politics tab goofing off to debate some silly crap.

It's not a debate when one side is objectively right, and everyone else is a pillow-humping never-showering furry.

/NY.
 
2010-03-25 01:13:58 PM  
AlwaysRightBoy: Lombardi's....

It's really all that needs to be said.


Where is that located? It looks delicious.
 
2010-03-25 01:14:52 PM  
Tatsuma: Lando Lincoln: How about people that can't understand that last sentence?

They need to follow my example, and drink copious amounts of scotch after an all-night pub crawl to celebrate a friend's engagement.

Then they must watch south park as they fark.


Too bad you went kosher thought, now you can't enjoy any really good pizza.
 
2010-03-25 01:16:58 PM  
sweetmelissa31: AlwaysRightBoy: Lombardi's....

It's really all that needs to be said.

Where is that located? It looks delicious.


You're from ny and you never had Lombardi's? For shame...
 
2010-03-25 01:17:08 PM  
sweetmelissa31: AlwaysRightBoy: Lombardi's....

It's really all that needs to be said.

Where is that located? It looks delicious.


Lombardis
 
2010-03-25 01:17:57 PM  
I Said: Tatsuma: I seriously believe that we should add 'Do you think Chicago-style is better than NY-style pizza?' to IQ tests, and that anyone answering yes should automatically be downgraded to below 90.

Oh have some fun. Look at this thread: It's everyone from the politics tab goofing off to debate some silly crap.

/NY is better.


My good sir, this a debate of the highest import. Next tto this, politics is the silly crap.

/I bet the TFD regulars all think Chicago-style is better. They would.
 
2010-03-25 01:19:08 PM  
crimsin23: You're from ny and you never had Lombardi's? For shame...

Well, Long Island.. I might have had it at some point, but I haven't lived there for 9 years.
 
2010-03-25 01:19:42 PM  
Tatsuma: She's right, and if you disagree you're a tastebud-lacking America-hater racist.

I love Chicago deep dish pie, after having some at the original Pizzaria Uno.

But, it ain't pizza, Chicagoans. If you need a fork and knife to eat it,
even for a little while, it is not pizza.
 
2010-03-25 01:21:27 PM  
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2010-03-25 01:22:11 PM  
Lombardis stinks on ice.

Totonno's in Coney Island is where it's at.
 
2010-03-25 01:22:39 PM  
As a native Chicagoan I can say that she's now dead to me. New York Pizza is good but better than Chicago? No.
 
2010-03-25 01:23:29 PM  
sweetmelissa31: AlwaysRightBoy: Lombardi's....

It's really all that needs to be said.

Where is that located? It looks delicious.


32 Spring Street
New York, NY
It was originally at 53 Spring St when it opened in 1897. It's really one of the best, but there are so many around in New York that are good.
/just finished my second slice of Abitino's, two more to go
 
2010-03-25 01:24:54 PM  
sweetmelissa31: crimsin23: You're from ny and you never had Lombardi's? For shame...

Well, Long Island.. I might have had it at some point, but I haven't lived there for 9 years.


Ahh ok, it is in the top 3 of best pizza places in nyc.
 
2010-03-25 01:26:26 PM  
JerseyTim: Lombardis stinks on ice.

Totonno's in Coney Island is where it's at.


I disagree, and have you ever tried L&B?
 
2010-03-25 01:27:34 PM  
Eddie_Dean_NY: /I bet the TFD regulars all think Chicago-style is better. They would.

Cretins and savages, the lot of them.
 
2010-03-25 01:27:57 PM  
crimsin23: I disagree, and have you ever tried L&B?

I feel bad because I lived close to there for two years and never went.
 
2010-03-25 01:29:18 PM  
crimsin23: Too bad you went kosher thought, now you can't enjoy any really good pizza.

don't think this isn't hurting me as I read this thread and travel on memory lane
 
2010-03-25 01:29:39 PM  
T.M.S.: fresh clam pie.

i221.photobucket.com


This place Franny's over in Park Slope could hook you up.

Link
 
2010-03-25 01:31:02 PM  
JerseyTim: I feel bad because I lived close to there for two years and never went.

I hate you.
 
2010-03-25 01:31:52 PM  
Tatsuma: crimsin23: Too bad you went kosher thought, now you can't enjoy any really good pizza.

don't think this isn't hurting me as I read this thread and travel on memory lane


I think if Pizza had been around back in the day there's be an exception in the rules for it.
 
2010-03-25 01:37:15 PM  
AlwaysRightBoy: T.M.S.: fresh clam pie.
This place Franny's over in Park Slope could hook you up.
Link


The clam pie was much fresher before the dykes all got priced out.
 
2010-03-25 01:40:27 PM  
I Said: "I think I'll have a pizza. This looks good:"
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"I think I'll have a wheel made of bread. This looks good:"
farm2.static.flickr.com


I believe we can find a happy medium here.

Long Island Sicilian marinara slice (my lunch today):

photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2010-03-25 01:43:58 PM  
make me some tea: I Said: "I think I'll have a pizza. This looks good:"
3.bp.blogspot.com

"I think I'll have a wheel made of bread. This looks good:"
farm2.static.flickr.com

I believe we can find a happy medium here.

Long Island Sicilian marinara slice (my lunch today):


Good stuff.

But there is no "happy medium" with these Chicago Elitists. They keep asking for more dough in their pizzas, while us true Americans understand that it isn't fair to take the dough that could go to one pizza, and simply hand it to another. That's dough redistribution and it's unamerican.

Furthermore if we do compromise here, where does it end? This is a slippery slope that will lead to us eating giant basketballs made of bread with one slice of American cheese on each. That's not the future I want for my children.
 
2010-03-25 01:44:35 PM  
New York pizza sucks ass. I've been in real pizzerias and thrown away used napkins with more toppings and sauce than that NY crap.

If you can fold it up and hold the slice with one hand, it ain't pizza.
 
2010-03-25 01:44:38 PM  
She had everyone's cell phone taken away and then she made a bunch of whitey remarks.
 
2010-03-25 01:46:02 PM  
R.A.Danny: First it's healthcare, now it's pizza.

Well, the insurance companies, now that they can't deny pre-existing conditions like "living in Chicago" will need to push to reduce the amount of Chicago pizza that's out there. Seriously, two slices is pretty much unsurvivable.
 
2010-03-25 01:47:06 PM  
I Said: When I think "good italian food", I think "The midwest". Certainly not NYC.

I certainty hope you forgot the sarcasm font, otherwise you might want to call 911 and get in for a brain scan, stat.
 
2010-03-25 01:47:29 PM  
jbc: Columbia, Missouri laughs at both of them.

Having had Shakespears, St. Louis destroys Columbia.

Link (new window)
 
2010-03-25 01:47:40 PM  
flucto: I Said: When I think "good italian food", I think "The midwest". Certainly not NYC.

I certainty hope you forgot the sarcasm font, otherwise you might want to call 911 and get in for a brain scan, stat.


That WAS sarcasm.
 
2010-03-25 01:48:14 PM  
Anyone who disagrees needs to go to Bleecker St. Pizza in the village. It's one of the few NY pies you can't (or shouldn't) fold because the crust is just slightly crispy, and it's farking awesome.

Or you could go to a good Ray's (there are many Ray's, and... maybe 3/4s of them serve good pizza, and maybe 1/4 of them serve GREAT pizza), or hit up Ben's, or check out some of the more obscure stuff out in Brooklyn.fark, I'm going to PAX East tomorrow and I have leftover Chinese food to finish tonight, and now I wanna get a pie. Dammit.
 
2010-03-25 01:48:15 PM  
CtrlAltDelete: And also it's called "soda", not "pop".

It's all coke.

But if you have to choose between those two, then yes, it's soda.
 
2010-03-25 01:48:53 PM  
EvilEgg: jbc: Columbia, Missouri laughs at both of them.

New Haven, CT is where it is really at.

But that is NY style brick oven.


Yes New Haven is thin crust style (but fantastic). Chicago is a topless calzone, Sicilian is bread dipped in sauce and spices. Missouri is a shiathole.
 
2010-03-25 01:48:56 PM  
Oh hell no!

Chicago thin crust FTW!

/never got into the deep dish stuff.
 
2010-03-25 01:49:00 PM  
jbc: Columbia, Missouri laughs at both of them.

Shakespeare's is garbage. Blackthorne Pub or Pi in St. Louis wipes the floor with it.
 
2010-03-25 01:49:10 PM  
I Said: That WAS sarcasm.

Arthur Ave. alone is 87.2% of the reason I'd have a hard time moving too far away from NYC.
 
2010-03-25 01:49:19 PM  
farm1.static.flickr.com

The near side of this is a Marie Laveau compliments of Dean-O's in Lafayette Louisiana.

Crab meat, carmelized onions, mushrooms and red sauce.

It's so damn good it's worth tolerating the inconsiderate wait staff.
 
2010-03-25 01:50:06 PM  
Chicago sucks dick
 
2010-03-25 01:50:14 PM  
brap: The clam pie was much fresher before the dykes all got priced out.

Try it with some lightly grated Smegma cheese.
 
2010-03-25 01:50:22 PM  
Fark pizza thread!!! Woo hoo!!

I have a co-worker whose husband travels a lot for work. He recently brought me a frozen Lou Malnati's and a frozen Giordano's from Chicago. Of course, not the same experience as being in the shop and getting it right out of the oven, but as close as I can get without getting on a plane.

The Malnati's was essentially meh, but the Giordano's was quite good. Not what I would choose every time I wanted pie, but pretty good. I especially liked the sauce on both. Would really like to try a Pequod's.

It really boils down to what you're used to. I'm an east coast guy, spent time in CT, been to countless mom and pop Italian places, and NY style is what I like, though I do understand and appreciate Chicago style.

/YMMV
//Have seriously considered flying up to New Haven to do the Pepe's/Sally's/Modern challenge
 
2010-03-25 01:50:45 PM  
The pizza is all about the cheese. The oven is judged on how well it flatters the cheese. The best ovens wake up the cheese and bring its flavor to peak. Hiding the cheese below the sauce hides the cheese from the oven's loving. The flame doesn't do anything for the sauce, so why expose it to the oven over the cheese?

Noo Yawk FTW
 
2010-03-25 01:50:56 PM  
World's stupidest debate. It's not even the same thing. It just so happens that they're both called pizza. One is a greasy flat fast-food thing and one is a bread based lasagna sit down dinner thing.

/prefers chicago-style thin crust
 
2010-03-25 01:50:58 PM  
L&B Spumoni Gardens, 86th Street in Brooklyn, Sicilian. Done.

Though I'm a New Yorker who likes Chicago-style too. Two different animals, nothing wrong with either.
 
2010-03-25 01:51:27 PM  
Lando Lincoln: NewportBarGuy: That's easy to do when all Chicago offers is some abominable cheese/meat/tomato soup in a grotesque bread bowl.

Seriously, that is NOT pizza.

Cardboard with pizza sauce on it may be YOUR version of pizza, but in the hearty midwest, we like our pizzas that could kill a man if you threw it at him.

"Ooh look - I can fold it in half! That means it's tasty and not like high school cafeteria pizza at all!"



Oh great, some hillbilly is telling us his people do pizza better than NY Italians. Yes, I really believe someone who's region gave us turd flinging as a sport.
 
2010-03-25 01:51:29 PM  
Lando Lincoln: Tatsuma: I seriously believe that we should add 'Do you think Chicago-style is better than NY-style pizza?' to IQ tests, and that anyone answering yes should automatically be downgraded to below 90.

So you're saying that intelligence can be based on food preferences?

That's...intelligent.


Then Jews and Muslims would be retarded for not eating bacon.
 
2010-03-25 01:52:11 PM  
FreakinB: L&B Spumoni Gardens, 86th Street in Brooklyn, Sicilian. Done.

Though I'm a New Yorker who likes Chicago-style too. Two different animals, nothing wrong with either.


Where on 86th? I live in Bay Ridge, and for local pies I'm partial to Ben's on 82nd. Not super-awesome (not up there with Ben's in the village), but pretty awesome for a NY pie.
 
2010-03-25 01:52:36 PM  
jbc: Columbia, Missouri laughs at both of them.

I think it's spelled Colombia, Missoura.
 
2010-03-25 01:52:41 PM  
Providence, R.I. FTW:

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2010-03-25 01:52:42 PM  
Ric Romero sez:

Sometimes when Political people visit other places, they try hard to say nice things about the place they are visiting, even if everyone knows it so farking stupid only a farking brain dead motherfarker from New York would farking believe it.

The more you know!
 
2010-03-25 01:53:11 PM  
I've had a delicious Chicago-style or two in my day, but I hesitate to call it pizza.
 
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