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(Daily Mail)   Dumb:Teachers refuse to help 5-yr old boy out of tree on school grounds because "health and safety" rules forbids it. Dumber:Passer-by helps boy down from 20-ft height and is arrested for trespassing   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 191
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2010-03-25 10:49:37 AM
This is just one more example of the pussification of America.
 
2010-03-25 10:51:57 AM
sigdiamond2000: This is just one more example of the pussification of America.

This is just one more example of the pussification of America UK.
 
2010-03-25 10:57:28 AM
borg: sigdiamond2000: This is just one more example of the pussification of America.

This is just one more example of the pussification of America UK.


www.neg9.com
 
2010-03-25 11:05:22 AM
'We would strongly urge members of the public not to climb over a padlocked gate to approach children as their motives are not clear to staff.

What will the staff do? Climb up there after them?
 
2010-03-25 11:17:10 AM
I went to Boston 20 years ago. Loved it and the people were amazing but everyone is afraid of getting sued. I got to the hotel at 11:00 AM and they said my room wasn't cleaned yet. I asked, if I could just leave my suitcase with them and come back in the afternoon. They said no because they had no place to lock it up. I told them to just put it in the office. They said they couldn't take responsibility for it. This was a nice hotel also.

What the fark? This is typical of Americans always afraid they are going to get sued. It is a sad state but think it could be reversed.
 
2010-03-25 11:23:35 AM
I think this is one of those "everyone involved is a coont" stories. Including the little boy. The rule is probably there because some kid wouldn't come out of a tree and a staff person tried to get him out and farked up their leg trying to come after him.
 
2010-03-25 11:41:22 AM
It's a good thing a man didn't try to help the boy out of the tree. The charges would probably have been more serious than trespassing.
 
2010-03-25 11:44:22 AM
mrshowrules: This is typical of Americans always afraid they are going to get sued.

Somebody DNRTFA, did they? *pat pat*
 
2010-03-25 01:26:08 PM
A boy of five was left stranded in a tree at school because of a bizarre health and safety policy - which banned teachers from helping him down.

It's wonderful that the health and safety of the teachers comes before a five-year old. Bizarre, indeed.
 
2010-03-25 01:40:33 PM
just send the cat up to get him
 
2010-03-25 01:40:35 PM
Simple solution; cut down the tree so it never happens again.
 
2010-03-25 01:41:18 PM
Things I've learned from UK tabloids:

1. Common sense actions are banned because of "health and safety reasons".

2. Criminals get away with murder, can sue their victims (and even have their victims arrested) for trying to stop them from committing their crimes, and if sent to jail live in luxurious prison surroundings. All of this because of "human rights issues".

3. You can show topless women in the newspaper but can't print the words "bastard", "wanker", or "tosser".
 
2010-03-25 01:41:53 PM
When James May thinks there are too many "health and safety" regulations you know its gone too far.
 
2010-03-25 01:41:59 PM
Rules is rules.
 
2010-03-25 01:43:01 PM
cksewell: A boy of five was left stranded in a tree at school because of a bizarre health and safety policy - which banned teachers from helping him down.

It's wonderful that the health and safety of the teachers comes before a five-year old. Bizarre, indeed.


Not really, i wouldnt risk a broken leg to climb a tree to get a kid down when waiting for someone to get a ladder would be a more effective solution.

Also scaling a fence to get into a school looks like pretty good way to get nicked.
 
2010-03-25 01:44:35 PM
My god, the stupid is strong with these people.
 
2010-03-25 01:44:59 PM
Maybe if the 5-yr old had been on its leash it wouldn't have gotten caught in the tree subby?

Now's the time people! We need mandatory leash laws for children for anytime they are not in their crates, for their safety and ours!!
 
2010-03-25 01:45:56 PM
cksewell: It's wonderful that the health and safety of the teachers comes before a five-year old. Bizarre, indeed.

A five-year old boy can't vote Labour now, can he? As opposed to members of a teacher's union. How is the government supposed to carry out the primary task of distributing taxpayer subsidies to its supporters when he has to worry about such trivialities as the safety of foolish boys?

What were you thinking?
 
2010-03-25 01:46:18 PM
My god, the stupid is strong with people who believe the Daily Mail and Rupert Murdoch.

I wonder what actually happened? Sadly we'll never know.
 
2010-03-25 01:48:11 PM
sigdiamond2000: This is just one more example of the pussification of America.

The stupid. It burns.
 
2010-03-25 01:49:40 PM
This is just one more example of the pussification of Belgium.
 
2010-03-25 01:50:12 PM
bigdavediode: My god, the stupid is strong with people who believe the Daily Mail and Rupert Murdoch.

I wonder what actually happened? Sadly we'll never know.


Submit a FOI request to the police force and the school? They cant say much due to confidentiality issues, but should be able to contradict a fair amount of the daily wails story.
 
2010-03-25 01:50:32 PM
Whitewabbit: Not really, i wouldnt risk a broken leg to climb a tree to get a kid down when waiting for someone to get a ladder would be a more effective solution.

I agree that the ladder is a more effective solution. I do not think leaving the kid unattended for 45 minutes while NOT getting a ladder is the way to go. I'm surprised they didn't just call Fireman Sam, but then this didn't happen in Wales, did it?

bigdavediode: My god, the stupid is strong with people who believe the Daily Mail and Rupert Murdoch.

Good point.
 
2010-03-25 01:51:48 PM
F*ck that. If that little turd wants to climb a tree and not come down, you go inside and ignore his ass. If he falls, you instruct his classmates to go outside, point, and laugh.
 
2010-03-25 01:52:29 PM
pan fried monkey spunk: This is just onetwo more examples of the gentripussification of Belgiumfast.

FTFY
 
2010-03-25 01:52:52 PM
These Brits have gone and lost their farking minds with their safety rules. I thought I'd heard the ultimate when I read that UK parents will need to get background checks before being able to accompany their own children in the park, but it keeps getting better.
 
2010-03-25 01:52:58 PM
Whitewabbit:
Also scaling a fence to get into a school looks like pretty good way to get nicked to stop the stupidity before it spreads.


In this situation at least.
 
2010-03-25 01:53:28 PM
FTFA:

"Not only was he at least 6ft off the ground, but someone taller than me could easily have reached in from the pavement and plucked him off the branch."

6 feet? He was only 6 feet off the ground? He needed rescuing?

"'He was so young. He didn't look frightened but he was completely on his own - there were no teachers or friends in the playground and the field was empty.
'I walked past at 11.15am and he told me he had been hiding since the end of playtime because he didn't want to go back into class."

So he wasn't stuck up there. He was just hiding. How exactly did she "rescue" him?
 
2010-03-25 01:54:48 PM
Fano: Rules is rules.

Rules are rules.
 
2010-03-25 01:55:14 PM
Where in the article does it say she's arrested? It only says she was "visited by a PCSO" to notify her of her offense.

Subby DNRTFA?
 
2010-03-25 01:55:39 PM
www.procoach-shotgun.co.uk
 
2010-03-25 01:56:26 PM
Pellet rifles, and sling shots will keep kids out of the trees.
 
2010-03-25 01:56:26 PM
W2OW: Fano: Rules is rules.

Rules are rules.

FTFY


FTFY
 
2010-03-25 01:57:01 PM
bigdavediode: My god, the stupid is strong with people who believe the Daily Mail and Rupert Murdoch.

I wonder what actually happened? Sadly we'll never know.


Well...it was a UPI story, actually, that was picked up by several of the big U.K. newspapers. I asked Google and found that out. Here's (new window) one example.

Much of the same language in most of them, typical of UPI and AP stories.

I get that the Daily Mail is crap. But a lot of the time, it's just repackaged crap from the newsfeeds; they're just the cheesy messenger for it.
 
2010-03-25 01:57:29 PM
Dammit, England, you used to be so cool.
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2010-03-25 01:58:07 PM
A man runs into a burning building to save the occupants trapped inside.

In America, he's praised as a hero.

In the UK, he's arrested for trespassing and under investigation for public endangerment and possibly arson.
 
2010-03-25 01:59:20 PM
lilistonic: I get that the Daily Mail is crap. But a lot of the time, it's just repackaged crap from the newsfeeds; they're just the cheesy messenger for it.

I mean, yes, I know they also embellish the stories with Horror and Mayhem and Hand-Wringing. But if you check the original source, the basics are usually about the same.
 
2010-03-25 02:00:02 PM
Mrs Martin confirmed that the school's policy prevents staff going to the aid of children who have climbed trees.

She said: 'The safety of our pupils is our priority and we would like to make it clear that this child was being observed at all times during this very short incident.



If school policy is that a teacher can't give aid to a kid in a tree then their priority is not the safety of the pupil.
 
2010-03-25 02:02:15 PM
Nanny State. Coming soon to a USA near you.
 
2010-03-25 02:03:42 PM
cksewell: It's wonderful that the health and safety of the teachers comes before a five-year old. Bizarre, indeed.

Makes perfect sense to me. It only takes a bit under 6 years to get a new 5 year old. An adult takes much longer and costs more when you take into account schooling and food. It's all about the ROI.
 
2010-03-25 02:04:48 PM
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Stay classy UK!
 
2010-03-25 02:06:15 PM
sigdiamond2000: This is just one more example of the pussification of America.

It has nothing to do with pussification, you twat.

It has everything to do with authority whore adminsistration in schools, and lawsuit happy parents.
 
2010-03-25 02:06:18 PM
Would a newspaper story about a teacher getting injured by falling out of a tree be more or less worthy of a Dumbass tag?

liam76:
If school policy is that a teacher can't give aid to a kid in a tree then their priority is not the safety of the pupil.


If the kid had wanted aid, he could have been given aid. But since the kid climbed up there to avoid lessons, you think he was going to co-operate with any teacher foolish enough to climb up the tree after him?
 
2010-03-25 02:06:46 PM
Kairaishi: cksewell: It's wonderful that the health and safety of the teachers comes before a five-year old. Bizarre, indeed.

Makes perfect sense to me. It only takes a bit under 6 years to get a new 5 year old. An adult takes much longer and costs more when you take into account schooling and food. It's all about the ROI.


Well sure, but remember, that adult is probably fully depreciated.

//don't forget the tax issues
 
2010-03-25 02:10:15 PM
evilmousse

I have been wondering how you approach a school in an inappropriate way. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
2010-03-25 02:10:45 PM
Call a parent to get him down. A few phone calls to parents of misbehaving children requiring the parent to come to the school immediately would either end up with more control given back to the teachers or better behaved children.

Inconvenience is a great motivator.
 
2010-03-25 02:11:23 PM
I don't get it. There's an unending stream of these absurd "health and safety" stories but the UK never amends the laws to stop this nonsense. Do you people have democracy or not?
 
2010-03-25 02:11:31 PM
Was he hanging on in quiet desperation?
 
2010-03-25 02:12:36 PM
Mrs Martin confirmed that the school's policy prevents staff going to the aid of children who have climbed trees.

Wait, they have a rule that specifically addresses this event? That is farking amazing. Who is the school board president, Kreskin?
 
2010-03-25 02:12:47 PM
tuffsnake: Maybe if the 5-yr old had been on its leash it wouldn't have gotten caught in the tree subby?

Now's the time people! We need mandatory leash laws for children for anytime they are not in their crates, for their safety and ours!!


That's funny.
 
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