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(AOL News)   Well, there was at least one silver lining to the Haiti earthquake: All the drug lords moved out, leaving behind lots of empty, palatial and built to code mansions behind them   (aolnews.com) divider line 37
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2010-03-25 09:34:58 AM
They'll "reclaim" them at some point.
 
2010-03-25 10:02:22 AM
FTFA: "It's bizarre that the buildings built by drug traffickers survived and the government buildings collapsed," said Max Boutin, who administers the properties for a Haitian anti-drug trafficking commission. "Now the buildings will be here to support the government."

It's not bizarre, it makes perfect sense. The gov't is full of cheapo bastards willing to cut corners to stuff more money in their pockets no matter where in the world you live. Since the gov't buildings don't actually belong to the individuals in the gov't they have no incentive to make them nice and not pocket the extra change... unlike the drug lord who has every incentive to ensure his house is built perfectly.
 
2010-03-25 11:31:03 AM
This is why we should have used an earthquake machine on Iraq. But nooooooo....Mr. Rove had to waste all that effort on his hurricane machine.
 
2010-03-25 12:08:31 PM
Yeah, subby. Go ahead and move in; make yourself at home, and fix yourself something to eat. Let me know how that works for you.
 
2010-03-25 12:42:15 PM
Diogenes: This is why we should have used an earthquake machine on Iraq. But nooooooo....Mr. Rove had to waste all that effort on his hurricane machine.

This honestly is why I don't believe the "earthquake machine" theory about Haiti (well, that and the fact it's batshiat crazy) -- if you have a machine that will do this, why use it on broke-ass Haiti? Have the site that Iran is building its nuclear facilities on suddenly get hit with a 9.0 earthquake or something. You get rid of it, and you say "Well, just one of those things."
 
2010-03-25 01:06:18 PM
jake_lex: Diogenes: This is why we should have used an earthquake machine on Iraq. But nooooooo....Mr. Rove had to waste all that effort on his hurricane machine.

This honestly is why I don't believe the "earthquake machine" theory about Haiti (well, that and the fact it's batshiat crazy) -- if you have a machine that will do this, why use it on broke-ass Haiti? Have the site that Iran is building its nuclear facilities on suddenly get hit with a 9.0 earthquake or something. You get rid of it, and you say "Well, just one of those things."


The only thing I can think of is knocking out a weak regime and installing one of your own, as means of preventing anyone else from doing it first.
 
2010-03-25 01:57:44 PM
jake_lex: Diogenes: This is why we should have used an earthquake machine on Iraq. But nooooooo....Mr. Rove had to waste all that effort on his hurricane machine.

This honestly is why I don't believe the "earthquake machine" theory about Haiti (well, that and the fact it's batshiat crazy) -- if you have a machine that will do this, why use it on broke-ass Haiti? Have the site that Iran is building its nuclear facilities on suddenly get hit with a 9.0 earthquake or something. You get rid of it, and you say "Well, just one of those things."


Field testing. You need to get the bugs worked out before going to production.
 
2010-03-25 01:59:09 PM
The bad news is you're still in Haiti.
 
2010-03-25 01:59:46 PM
It's bizarre? really? if the guy you are building a house for can have your whole family violently killed you better do a farking good job.
 
2010-03-25 02:02:00 PM
Moved to where?
 
2010-03-25 02:04:50 PM
NeauxFear: Yeah, subby. Go ahead and move in; make yourself at home, and fix yourself something to eat. Let me know how that works for you.

This
 
2010-03-25 02:05:16 PM
FTFA: The drug lords built them to last. While the quake destroyed all the government ministries' headquarters, only four of the 30 seized buildings suffered quake damage.

"It's bizarre that the buildings built by drug traffickers survived and the government buildings collapsed," said Max Boutin, who administers the properties for a Haitian anti-drug trafficking commission.


Could we have another Libertarian paradise here?
 
2010-03-25 02:05:40 PM
They left behind things behind them?
 
2010-03-25 02:07:13 PM
Crooked jet set livin'
With gold-toothed diplomats
Umbrella drinks, the whole thing stinks
Flipped a switch and that was that

Winding through the curves in a big convertible
Trying to hide her eyes from the haitian sun
But he left you cold in a blue eyed trance, girl
You better run now 'cause you gonna get no second chance
In port-au-prince
 
2010-03-25 02:07:46 PM
Headso: It's bizarre? really? if the guy you are building a house for can have your whole family violently killed you better do a farking good job.
those contractors knew what they were getting into
Link (new window)
 
2010-03-25 02:09:09 PM
"It's bizarre that the buildings built by drug traffickers survived and the government buildings collapsed"

i2.photobucket.com

Unless he's being sarcastic...
 
2010-03-25 02:09:42 PM
Not quite, the government had these properties in it's possession since 2007 or so. The drug dealers are in US prisons. I say good for the Haitians. For once a government property seizure program actually helps the people out in some way.
 
2010-03-25 02:09:50 PM
um, why are they not using it as temporary housing? I think it would better serve those who are still without housing rather than a government building. What a bunch of douche-bags...
 
2010-03-25 02:14:03 PM
who cares?

even if Haitians "claim" them, in 2 months they will be run down burnt out shells. When you are broke, uneducated, corrupt, you tend to not take care of things you didn't earn.

It's just like the programs here in the states that give a brand new ultra low rent house to a family of crack heads with 7 kids. They are trashed in no time and then everyone stands around with their dick in their hand wondering why their life sucks.
 
2010-03-25 02:19:16 PM
See? SEE???

LEGALIZE IT!!
 
2010-03-25 02:29:33 PM
Time to Dr. Zhivago that s***, eh?
 
2010-03-25 02:39:52 PM
phestry: Not quite, the government had these properties in it's possession since 2007 or so. The drug dealers are in US prisons. I say good for the Haitians. For once a government property seizure program actually helps the people out in some way.

This. It's not a "silver lining" to the earthquake. It had nothing to do with the earthquake at all.

To reiterate: The drug lords did not "move out" as a result of the earthquake, nice try Subby.
 
2010-03-25 02:43:43 PM
And they wonder why no one wants to invest in a country that has little to no property rights .....
 
2010-03-25 03:00:19 PM
Talon: FTFA: "It's bizarre that the buildings built by drug traffickers survived and the government buildings collapsed," said Max Boutin, who administers the properties for a Haitian anti-drug trafficking commission. "Now the buildings will be here to support the government."

It's not bizarre, it makes perfect sense. The gov't is full of cheapo bastards willing to cut corners to stuff more money in their pockets no matter where in the world you live. Since the gov't buildings don't actually belong to the individuals in the gov't they have no incentive to make them nice and not pocket the extra change... unlike the drug lord who has every incentive to ensure his house is built perfectly.


Eight gallons of this.
 
2010-03-25 03:30:02 PM
jake_lex: Diogenes: This is why we should have used an earthquake machine on Iraq. But nooooooo....Mr. Rove had to waste all that effort on his hurricane machine.

This honestly is why I don't believe the "earthquake machine" theory about Haiti (well, that and the fact it's batshiat crazy) -- if you have a machine that will do this, why use it on broke-ass Haiti? Have the site that Iran is building its nuclear facilities on suddenly get hit with a 9.0 earthquake or something. You get rid of it, and you say "Well, just one of those things."


I have not heard that one yet.

Of the many items on the "Batshiat Crazy Theories I've Nearly Given Up Trying To Fight" list, I think my least favorites are a tie between 9/11 Truthers and "You don't get diabetes from not eating healthy, it's actually a disease that the government/white people created to keep African-Americans down".

Heard that latter one at work. Good times. Thankfully, another (sane and intelligent) black employee stepped in, because I think she thought I was part of the conspiracy.

Sigh.
 
2010-03-25 03:34:14 PM
Silver lining my ass. They're doing it wrong, kick out the crappy incompetent bureaucrats and have the drug lords run things. You can make smart dishonest people honest but you can't make stupid dishonest people smart.

Look at who they kept around to run things in Germany and Japan after the war, the Nazis and the Imperial government. They took the swastikas and rising sun stuff off of everything and executed a few dozen people but otherwise the governments were intact because they were competent. Haiti needs to get rid of the incompetent government and get somebody in there who can run things, well anything, competently.
 
2010-03-25 03:52:29 PM
The reduced population is also a good thing, according to my inside voice.
 
2010-03-25 04:00:02 PM
Talon: FTFA: "It's bizarre that the buildings built by drug traffickers survived and the government buildings collapsed," said Max Boutin, who administers the properties for a Haitian anti-drug trafficking commission. "Now the buildings will be here to support the government."

It's not bizarre, it makes perfect sense. The gov't is full of cheapo bastards willing to cut corners to stuff more money in their pockets no matter where in the world you live. Since the gov't buildings don't actually belong to the individuals in the gov't they have no incentive to make them nice and not pocket the extra change... unlike the drug lord who has every incentive to ensure his house is built perfectly.


Came in to say this, almost word-for-word.
 
2010-03-25 04:00:09 PM
Talon 2010-03-25 10:02:22 AM

FTFA: "It's bizarre that the buildings built by drug traffickers survived and the government buildings collapsed," said Max Boutin, who administers the properties for a Haitian anti-drug trafficking commission. "Now the buildings will be here to support the government."

It's not bizarre, it makes perfect sense. The gov't is full of cheapo bastards willing to cut corners to stuff more money in their pockets no matter where in the world you live. Since the gov't buildings don't actually belong to the individuals in the gov't they have no incentive to make them nice and not pocket the extra change... unlike the drug lord who has every incentive to ensure his house is built perfectly.




Explaining perfectly why you're better off with big business, even at it's most corrupt, getting things done than politicians and the government, who create nothing but waste and inefficiency.



/holy shiat, I'm a conservative.
 
2010-03-25 04:04:05 PM
doubled99: Talon 2010-03-25 10:02:22 AM

FTFA: "It's bizarre that the buildings built by drug traffickers survived and the government buildings collapsed," said Max Boutin, who administers the properties for a Haitian anti-drug trafficking commission. "Now the buildings will be here to support the government."

It's not bizarre, it makes perfect sense. The gov't is full of cheapo bastards willing to cut corners to stuff more money in their pockets no matter where in the world you live. Since the gov't buildings don't actually belong to the individuals in the gov't they have no incentive to make them nice and not pocket the extra change... unlike the drug lord who has every incentive to ensure his house is built perfectly.



Explaining perfectly why you're better off with big business, even at it's most corrupt, getting things done than politicians and the government, who create nothing but waste and inefficiency.



/holy shiat, I'm a conservative.


Naa that's more libertarian.
 
2010-03-25 04:34:20 PM
even though the drug lords buildings were built better, I bet the government built ones cost more. Government waste is a universal concept
 
2010-03-25 04:36:23 PM
doubled99: Talon 2010-03-25 10:02:22 AM

FTFA: "It's bizarre that the buildings built by drug traffickers survived and the government buildings collapsed," said Max Boutin, who administers the properties for a Haitian anti-drug trafficking commission. "Now the buildings will be here to support the government."

It's not bizarre, it makes perfect sense. The gov't is full of cheapo bastards willing to cut corners to stuff more money in their pockets no matter where in the world you live. Since the gov't buildings don't actually belong to the individuals in the gov't they have no incentive to make them nice and not pocket the extra change... unlike the drug lord who has every incentive to ensure his house is built perfectly.



Explaining perfectly why you're better off with big business, even at it's most corrupt, getting things done than politicians and the government, who create nothing but waste and inefficiency.



/holy shiat, I'm a conservative.


And a dumbass. (new window)
 
2010-03-25 04:49:43 PM
Little.Alex: Moved to where?

Mexico.
 
2010-03-25 05:00:15 PM
accelerus: who cares?

even if Haitians "claim" them, in 2 months they will be run down burnt out shells. When you are broke, uneducated, corrupt, you tend to not take care of things you didn't earn.

It's just like the programs here in the states that give a brand new ultra low rent house to a family of crack heads with 7 kids. They are trashed in no time and then everyone stands around with their dick in their hand wondering why their life sucks.


^
This
 
2010-03-25 05:07:25 PM
DasCor-cor 2010-03-25 04:36:23 PM

doubled99: Talon 2010-03-25 10:02:22 AM

FTFA: "It's bizarre that the buildings built by drug traffickers survived and the government buildings collapsed," said Max Boutin, who administers the properties for a Haitian anti-drug trafficking commission. "Now the buildings will be here to support the government."

It's not bizarre, it makes perfect sense. The gov't is full of cheapo bastards willing to cut corners to stuff more money in their pockets no matter where in the world you live. Since the gov't buildings don't actually belong to the individuals in the gov't they have no incentive to make them nice and not pocket the extra change... unlike the drug lord who has every incentive to ensure his house is built perfectly.



Explaining perfectly why you're better off with big business, even at it's most corrupt, getting things done than politicians and the government, who create nothing but waste and inefficiency.



/holy shiat, I'm a conservative.

And a dumbass. (new window)




And you have no comprehension at all. Idiot.
Your barely relevant link actually helps make my point more.
But nice try...
we appreciate the effort!
 
Ral
2010-03-25 07:09:44 PM
Talon: FTFA: "It's bizarre that the buildings built by drug traffickers survived and the government buildings collapsed," said Max Boutin, who administers the properties for a Haitian anti-drug trafficking commission. "Now the buildings will be here to support the government."

It's not bizarre, it makes perfect sense. The gov't is full of cheapo bastards willing to cut corners to stuff more money in their pockets no matter where in the world you live. Since the gov't buildings don't actually belong to the individuals in the gov't they have no incentive to make them nice and not pocket the extra change... unlike the drug lord who has every incentive to ensure his house is built perfectly.


2 50-gal drums of this, please.
 
2010-03-25 07:22:14 PM
Just as long as the locals continue to make baseball products for slave wages everything is gonna be OK.

/The marines were right to oust and kidnap former President Aristide
//No you can't have a minimum wage Haiti, not yours
 
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