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(Daily Sparks Tribune)   Richard Burr (R-eally doesn't care about national security, NC) derails a Senate Armed Services hearing to protest the health care bill. It's cool, the commander of the US Strategic Command needed to use his airline miles anyway   (charlotteobserver.com) divider line 173
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2010-03-24 11:37:43 PM
Weaver95: Vindibudd:
Is that enough for you? I hate to leave after this hot hot encounter but I have others in my little black book.

so you DID lie - you really don't believe that 'both sides are bad', you just hate the Democrats.

actually, I think we all knew that was the case but since you so helpfully painted yourself into the corner I thought I'd hammer home the point for those folks up in the nosebleed section.



Let me make it bolder for you since apparently you missed it the first time around: Oh, here's a bone, I think Michael Savage is a jerk and O'Reilly isn't that much better. I also don't think it was appropriate for Dick Cheney to drop an f-bomb on the Senate floor or for Newt to call Hillary a biatch to his mother.
 
2010-03-24 11:38:01 PM
Vindibudd:
So you're against this healthcare bill? Glad to know it.


I've never said I was on board with it. Health care reform IS needed though. I don't know if we needed this specific legislation, but legislation like it was inevitable. And as it happens it's a done deal.
 
2010-03-24 11:40:50 PM
Vindibudd:
Let me make it bolder for you since apparently you missed it the first time around: Oh, here's a bone, I think Michael Savage is a jerk and O'Reilly isn't that much better. I also don't think it was appropriate for Dick Cheney to drop an f-bomb on the Senate floor or for Newt to call Hillary a biatch to his mother.


again you move the goalposts. you specifically mentioned legislative initiatives you felt the democrats and gotten wrong. you listed many ideological points held by the democrats you also felt are incorrect.

So what ideological points do you think the Republicans got wrong? I said *ideological* points mind you, not PR screwups. additionally, a short list of botched Republican legislative initiatives would be helpful.

Be specific please.
 
2010-03-24 11:41:49 PM
Thanks for the memories, look for me in some other thread, typically pissing off people that are hard left, and some who are closet left but want to play BOTH SIDES ARE BAD.

/vote Libertarian
 
2010-03-24 11:42:52 PM
Vindibudd: Thanks for the memories, look for me in some other thread, typically pissing off people that are hard left, and some who are closet left but want to play BOTH SIDES ARE BAD.

/vote Libertarian


Every time I ask you for specifics, you run away. I wonder why that is...?
 
2010-03-24 11:43:19 PM
Vindibudd: HansensDisease: Vindibudd: ram this healthcare bill down our throats

You know how I can tell you're a Foxbot?

You know how I can tell you know nothing about me?


You pretty much as what you parrot, Sparky.
 
2010-03-24 11:47:13 PM
I was taught that if you can't say something good about someone, then say nothing.

Well, Vindibudd is gone.

That about sums it up.

Anyone else got a Democratic-led judicial filibuster before 1968? Just wondering about that "FIRST TIME IN HISTORY" thing.
 
2010-03-24 11:47:54 PM
Weaver95: Vindibudd:
Let me make it bolder for you since apparently you missed it the first time around: Oh, here's a bone, I think Michael Savage is a jerk and O'Reilly isn't that much better. I also don't think it was appropriate for Dick Cheney to drop an f-bomb on the Senate floor or for Newt to call Hillary a biatch to his mother.

again you move the goalposts. you specifically mentioned legislative initiatives you felt the democrats and gotten wrong. you listed many ideological points held by the democrats you also felt are incorrect.

So what ideological points do you think the Republicans got wrong? I said *ideological* points mind you, not PR screwups. additionally, a short list of botched Republican legislative initiatives would be helpful.

Be specific please.



Oops, you got me at 11:40 so I will respond to this one.

I am not moving the goalposts and you need another metaphor, you have used that like what 9 times in the past two days?

I am saying that A. The Democrats are just as guilty of obstruction and even more so.

B. You brought up You Lie as inappropriate behavior and then wanted me to reciprocate. I did with Cheney F-bomb and Newt/Hillary.

I don't know what the hell else you want. I don't think being obstructionist is all that bad honestly, I just think you can't biatch about it if you have done it in the past. End of story. See you in another thread where you will invariably bash Republicans because you can't sell the weed.
 
2010-03-24 11:49:35 PM
oldebayer: I was taught that if you can't say something good about someone, then say nothing.

Well, Vindibudd is gone.

That about sums it up.

Anyone else got a Democratic-led judicial filibuster before 1968? Just wondering about that "FIRST TIME IN HISTORY" thing.


You also got me before 11:40.

I shall clarify, Democrats filibustered EVERY SINGLE JUDICIAL NOMINEE OF W. THAT was what had never been done before in history, the practice of filibustering every single judge. Sorry for the confusion.
 
2010-03-24 11:52:14 PM
Vindibudd:
I am saying that A. The Democrats are just as guilty of obstruction and even more so.


You haven't proved that point at all. In fact, you have offered NOTHING to prove the Democrats are as obstructionist as the Republicans. Not only have you failed to make your first point, you also failed to make your second point - namely that 'both sides are bad'. you haven't said what legislative/ideological points held by the Republicans it is you disagree with.

I can only assume that you agree with everything done by the Republicans. which means that you don't believe 'both sides are bad', you only believe the Democrats are 'bad'. ergo, you lied to us.
 
2010-03-24 11:59:50 PM
Vindibudd: I shall clarify, Democrats filibustered EVERY SINGLE JUDICIAL NOMINEE OF W.

Not sure if serious.
 
2010-03-25 12:10:01 AM
Vindibudd: I love it how stalling and being obstructionist is such an admirable trait when Democrats do it (new window), but holy god, how dare the Republicans ever do anything similar.

OK, let's compare. Right now the Republicans are blocking 86 nominees for various positions. In comparison, at this point in Bush's presidency the Democrats were blocking 3.

Vindibudd: ike when Boxer was lecturing a General for calling her ma'am? (new window)

Shocking that someone would want to be called by their official title. That it's being used as a fundraising tool by Carly "I drove my company into the ground" Fiorina is hardly surprising, but irrelevant.

Vindibudd: When they filibustered judicial nominations for the FIRST TIME IN HISTORY?

Bork deserved filibustering, if that's what you're referring to.

Vindibudd: I shall clarify, Democrats filibustered EVERY SINGLE JUDICIAL NOMINEE OF W. THAT was what had never been done before in history, the practice of filibustering every single judge. Sorry for the confusion.

Oh, well that clarifies things and makes your comment completely false. So thanks for that.
 
2010-03-25 12:13:30 AM
Hender: Bork deserved filibustering, if that's what you're referring to.

Bork wasn't filibustered. He just lost on a 42-58 vote.
 
2010-03-25 12:15:16 AM
DamnYankees: Hender: Bork deserved filibustering, if that's what you're referring to.

Bork wasn't filibustered. He just lost on a 42-58 vote.


He got Borked.
 
2010-03-25 12:15:24 AM
justbob2000: When is the GOP going to figure out that stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum because you did not get your way makes them look like spoiled 3rd graders?

it doesn't matter what others think, in as much as, the gop get what they want.

....wait..did i say that correctly?
 
2010-03-25 12:18:26 AM
so basically this incident is so bad that even the token shill for all things Republican couldn't defend it and ran screaming from the thread.

yeah. this bodes well for Republican chances of a sweep in the midterm congressional elections.
 
2010-03-25 12:25:24 AM
Weaver95: so basically this incident is so bad that even the token shill for all things Republican couldn't defend it and ran screaming from the thread.

yeah. this bodes well for Republican chances of a sweep in the midterm congressional elections.


I know you know this, but I'll remind you anyway: people are on the whole are pretty dumb. I don't mean IQ, or book smarts or even street smarts, but around election time as a society we get stupid. People tend to have the memory of a goldfish. You, me, that guy across the street, we all get dumb. We get played.

The shiat that you and I can point out to show how incredibly stupid the Republicans were being back in January, February, March, and probably April will be lost on Marge and Earle in Newark if they weren't paying attention to begin with. Unless someone wakes up with a dead girl or a live boy, things ain't gonna change too much.
 
2010-03-25 12:27:24 AM
Weaver95: so basically this incident is so bad that even the token shill for all things Republican couldn't defend it and ran screaming from the thread.

yeah. this bodes well for Republican chances of a sweep in the midterm congressional elections.


Like I've said, the party needs to take a few damn minutes to take stock, and stop with the knee jerk talking points. Actually think about things, and regroup...

Putting your foot on the outrage machine didn't stop anything. It's not going to stop anything after the fact either.

You know what people call doing the same damn thing, over and over again, and expecting different results?
 
2010-03-25 12:28:33 AM
hubiestubert: You know what people call doing the same damn thing, over and over again, and expecting different results?

Anglophile governance? The GOP platform?
 
2010-03-25 12:30:16 AM
Hender: Unless someone wakes up with a dead girl or a live boy, things ain't gonna change too much.

so there's only one thing left to do then?
 
2010-03-25 12:40:00 AM
hubiestubert: You know what people call doing the same damn thing, over and over again, and expecting different results?

Socialism?
 
2010-03-25 12:49:15 AM
beve: hubiestubert: You know what people call doing the same damn thing, over and over again, and expecting different results?

Socialism?


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2010-03-25 01:11:28 AM
Weaver95: so basically this incident is so bad that even the token shill for all things Republican couldn't defend it and ran screaming from the thread.

yeah. this bodes well for Republican chances of a sweep in the midterm congressional elections.


Meh, the derailed a defense bill a few months back during the health care debates. This isn't even the first time they've done this shiat. And just look at the complete lack of outrage. Well, except from us of course.

This will not make CNN, MSNBC, ABC or of course Fox. This will not be used in the campaign. This will be forgotten and there will be absolutely no consequences from this.

Of course, if a Dem did it we wouldn't stop hearing about it for 3 months from CNN, MSNBC and ABC, and 6 months from Fox.
 
2010-03-25 01:12:21 AM
beve: hubiestubert: You know what people call doing the same damn thing, over and over again, and expecting different results?

Socialism?


It's amazing how much Cuba looks like Sweden.
 
2010-03-25 01:26:37 AM
The Tar Heels' NIT wonderseason is punishment for electing these types of fools.

Why must you make Ol' Roy cry, North Carolina?

/Duke sucks.
 
2010-03-25 01:26:39 AM
He's a little sh*t, don't even be trying to defend him.
 
2010-03-25 01:32:52 AM
Vindibudd: Oops, you got me at 11:40 so I will respond to this one.


What's the deal with 11:40? Did you have to be at the gym at 12:06?
 
2010-03-25 01:35:43 AM
Sounds like he's late for Leno.
 
2010-03-25 01:36:20 AM
Honestly, sounds like a stupid rule (it ain't "obscure" for no reason). Ditch it and let 'em try to cry for sympathy about it.
 
2010-03-25 01:37:45 AM
Well, I guess Republicans AREN'T strong on national defense.
 
2010-03-25 01:38:52 AM
UNC_Samurai: Fellow North Carolinians; we could have had Erskine Bowles instead of this louse in 2004, but noooooo. We had to have two of the laziest senators in a century with him and that harpy Dole.

Well I didn't vote for him.
 
2010-03-25 01:40:20 AM
So basically the dude pulled an "Excuse me, I'm really happy for you and I'm [not] gonna let you finish, but this health care bill is the WORST health care bill in the world and...
 
2010-03-25 01:42:48 AM
whidbey: So basically the dude pulled an "Excuse me, I'm really happy for you and I'm [not] gonna let you finish, but this health care bill is the WORST health care bill in the world and...

It was more like "I'm really happy for you and Ima let you finish but ooga booga herpa derpa hey."
 
2010-03-25 01:44:23 AM
Keep this up! The best thing for America is a few decades of do nothing Congresses!
 
2010-03-25 01:46:31 AM
Vindibudd: Look, here's the real problem. Democrats after years of biatching about reconciliation and partisanship gave Republicans the finger and used both to ram this healthcare bill down our (the peoples') throats.

FOR THE LAST TIME, Democrats are the majority in both houses of Congress and hold the presidency. There is no ramming involved when you have the numbers on your side.

Jesus Christ, how hard is it to understand simple math.
 
2010-03-25 01:47:01 AM
Pincy:
Jesus Christ, how hard is it to understand simple math.


I don't think math is one of Vindibudd's strong points.
 
2010-03-25 01:53:25 AM
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RIP Raymond Burr



/OK, now I feel stupid
//Thankfully I'm drunk and off tomorrow
 
2010-03-25 02:11:21 AM
Does anyone have any good resources or links of outside opinion of our healthcare debacle? What do other countries think of all that is currently going on?
 
2010-03-25 02:15:10 AM
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"Do you know what it's like to laugh like that?"

"Yes. Yes, I do."
 
2010-03-25 02:24:10 AM
Is it just me or does it seem like the US is headed for civil war?
 
2010-03-25 02:27:50 AM
mister13: Is it just me or does it seem like the US is headed for civil war?

I'm thinking less "civil war" and more "easily quashed, limited armed revolt".

There may be bands of yahoos who decide to rise up but they'll have little external cohesiveness or internal organization.

Chances are nothing will come of it though. Right wingers always lose what little composure they have when a Democrat is in the White House. To date, the Clinton years featured more right wing violence.
 
2010-03-25 02:28:19 AM
mister13: Is it just me or does it seem like the US is headed for civil war?

Not gonna happen. Not even close to that.
 
2010-03-25 02:29:12 AM
mister13: Is it just me or does it seem like the US is headed for civil war?

Don't let Fox News fool you. The angry violent teabaggers are a small minority. They just have a huge cable news and radio network giving them free advertising, so it makes them appear to be much larger in number than they actually are. But that's the role of Fox News, to distort reality.
 
2010-03-25 02:29:38 AM
mister13: Is it just me or does it seem like the US is headed for civil war?

Not really. Media outlets thrive on most heated rhetoric, and they publish the most sensational.

If you believe the hype, you'd think that LA was going to be consumed by one giant herpes sore. And that the entirety of the American South was nothing but way stations for the KKK, Aryan Nation, and former Black Panthers.

Because the hype sells papers, and click throughs. We're headed for civil war the same way that the Quebecoise are ready to secede RIGHT NOW!
 
2010-03-25 02:29:52 AM
culebra: I'm thinking less "civil war" and more "easily quashed, limited armed revolt".

I'm thinking less "easily quashed, limited armed revolt" and more "angry misspelled signs held by old poor white people on Social Security".

all this is, is the last gasp of the baby boomers.
 
2010-03-25 02:30:59 AM
Typical GOP tactic. Watch, in October, you will see ads about how Democrats would not even have simple committees with our Generals.

This whole crying about health care is ridiculous. The health insurance industry has been egging this on for ever. Raising rates, cutting coverage for people who paid there bill was bound to get the attention of someone. That attention came, and the bill we got was the response to that business tactic. And honestly, the bill is completely wrong.

Some of the idea in the bill are great, but forcing every American to buy insurance from a private company was a gift to all private insurances. Now they will have another 30 million customers to make a profit off of, but now they can raise there rates even higher knowing that Uncle Sam is going to foot the bill for those that cant afford it. Win win if you are the CEO of a big insurance company if you ask me.

Honestly, the GOP was right. The bill should have been scrapped and started over. Democrats should have just scrapped the bill and went with Single Payer. I don't think government should ever have the right to tell a business you are making to much profit, but i 100% believe that profits should never come at the cost of 1 life. I will tell you, Insurance companies made tons of profit by denying coverage which costs people there very right to life. Profits should never be allowed when it comes to insurance for you, your family, or anyone.
 
2010-03-25 02:33:34 AM
log_jammin: all this is, is the last gasp of the baby boomers.

THIS on a cracker. They're clinging to power with both hands, and they're willing to burn down the country to maintain it. They have the vast majority of the resources and nothing but time.
 
2010-03-25 02:37:04 AM
Vindibudd: Weaver95: Vindibudd: How about you come up with a list since I am busy arguing with every other liberal on this board. I'll tell you if I agree.

let's try this again.

in this post you said:
Vindibudd [TotalFark] Quote 2010-03-24 11:12:10 PM

Just pointing out that people need to be outraged when both sides do it. Otherwise, be happy with the hypocrite label.

Then you listed several things that you believe illustrate why the Democrats are bad.

My question to you is simple - if you believe that 'both sides are bad' then you MUST list what the Republicans have done wrong. If you do not/cannot list what the Republicans have done wrong, then your first statement is a lie.

put up or shut up time dude.

Well you mentioned the whole You Lie thing, and I mentioned the Boxer thing, and you are cheerleading this whole Republicans are idiots for obstructing things and I pointed out that Democrats did the same thing when it came to judges.


Actually, your article says that "they plan" to do it. Not that they did it.

That's beside the fact that you're simply engaging in...
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2010-03-25 02:38:13 AM
Occam's Chainsaw: log_jammin: all this is, is the last gasp of the baby boomers.

THIS on a cracker. They're clinging to power with both hands, and they're willing to burn down the country to maintain it. They have the vast majority of the resources and nothing but time.


What is with the baby boomer hate? Do people really despise their parents so much?
 
2010-03-25 02:40:17 AM
This guy does not look like a baby boomer. Yet this seems to be what this country is coming too.
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