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2010-03-23 05:37:34 PM  
She recanted? Obviously, she's a dirty lying slut!

The girl told police that she recanted because the allegations caused her family problems, stated the affidavit.

Oooh, or not so much. This is way too common - victim brings a real, legitimate accusation, and is ostracized by family and friends, particularly when the accused perpetrator is a family member, classmate, or friend. Under the pressure, the victim recants the accusation, and then a bunch of asshats jump out of the woodwork to say that she must have been lying originally.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2010-03-23 05:58:29 PM  
Before Crawford v. Washington statements by an obviously upset woman to whomever happened to be nearby were considered at least as credible as testimony in court under oath. So it was possible to get a conviction when she consistently denied under oath that he ___ her and did not want to pursue charges, as long as there was a witness to testify that she seemed upset and said the guy just ___ her. I'm not sure if that rule survived the Supreme Court; it is distinguishable from the next day police interview that the court said was inadmissible.
 
2010-03-23 07:25:08 PM  
This thread should be full of reasonable and well though out posts, as are all threads on this topic.
 
2010-03-23 07:25:23 PM  
No means no, unless the question is, "Is NoMeansNo the greatest Canadian rock band ever?"

/Then no is actually yes?
//Ugh my head hurts
 
2010-03-23 07:28:19 PM  
penis = liar

vagina = victim
 
2010-03-23 07:29:34 PM  
The girl was 13 at the time of the alleged assault. Which leaves me wondering.... if she wasn't old enough to consent to sex, does that also mean she wasn't old enough to refuse?
 
2010-03-23 07:29:56 PM  
So if the charges are dismissed, instead of him being found not guilty, that means it's not double jeopardy?
 
2010-03-23 07:30:02 PM  
Theaetetus, or not so much. This is way too common - victim brings a real, legitimate accusation, and is ostracized by family and friends, particularly when the accused perpetrator is a family member, classmate, or friend. Under the pressure, the victim recants the accusation, and then a bunch of asshats jump out of the woodwork to say that she must have been lying originally.

May disagree with you

www.catsandbeer.com
 
2010-03-23 07:30:03 PM  
Ow! That was my feelings!:
penis = liar
vagina = victim


Awwww. You has a sad!
lh5.ggpht.com
 
2010-03-23 07:30:12 PM  
Nothing to see here. As long as jeopardy hasn't attached (which doesn't happen until somewhere around the time a jury is empaneled) and the statute of limitations hasn't run, the DA is free to dismiss and refile as often as he or she would like. In this case they lost their star witness which crippled the case, then got her back.

Nothing out of the ordinary.
 
2010-03-23 07:31:51 PM  
Ow! That was my feelings!:

penis = liar

vagina = victim


39 year old man = molester
11 year old girl = victim

It can't be the other way around now, can it?
 
2010-03-23 07:36:31 PM  
Honest Bender: The girl was 13 at the time of the alleged assault. Which leaves me wondering.... if she wasn't old enough to consent to sex, does that also mean she wasn't old enough to refuse?

Which also means it can't hurt to ply them with drugs and/or alcohol, since they can't consent anyway.
 
2010-03-23 07:38:15 PM  
kidsizedcoffin

Which also means it can't hurt to ply them with drugs and/or alcohol, since they can't consent anyway.

Call it Jesus Juice and apparently it becomes legal enough to get away with.
 
2010-03-23 07:38:52 PM  
PullmyHair: Ow! That was my feelings!:

penis = liar

vagina = victim

39 year old man = molester
11 year old girl = victim

It can't be the other way around now, can it?


as somebody who knows a few 13 year olds, yes, it can.
 
2010-03-23 07:42:29 PM  
chrisjsug630:

[duke lacrosse pic]

May disagree with you

He's probably got it right. Most studies put false reporting at between 1-3% of rape allegations. Some of the outlier studies have put it up towards 8-10%, but the credibility of those has been attacked often enough that most sex crimes researchers would never cite them.
 
2010-03-23 07:45:30 PM  
tulax: Nothing to see here. As long as jeopardy hasn't attached (which doesn't happen until somewhere around the time a jury is empaneled) and the statute of limitations hasn't run, the DA is free to dismiss and refile as often as he or she would like. In this case they lost their star witness which crippled the case, then got her back.

Nothing out of the ordinary.


A witness not being available does happen for many reason, including refusing to testify. A witness that changes her story is another thing. It's a defense lawyers wet dream. You now have an admitted liar on the stand. I have no clue what the actual numbers are, but getting a conviction on the testimony of an admitted liar can not be very high.
 
2010-03-23 07:45:52 PM  
Ow! That was my feelings!: as somebody who knows a few 13 year olds, yes, it can.

I have yet to hear of a middle aged man crying down at the police station about how a 5th grader raped him over the weekend.

/You're needed 2 below in the sex slave thread
 
2010-03-23 07:48:41 PM  
i17.photobucket.com
 
2010-03-23 07:49:38 PM  
Gunny Highway: No means no, unless the question is, "Is NoMeansNo the greatest Canadian rock band ever?"

/Then no is actually yes?
//Ugh my head hurts


imagecache2.allposters.com

Nope, no still means no there.
 
2010-03-23 07:52:56 PM  
PullmyHair: Ow! That was my feelings!: as somebody who knows a few 13 year olds, yes, it can.

I have yet to hear of a middle aged man crying down at the police station about how a 5th grader raped him over the weekend.

/You're needed 2 below in the sex slave thread


whatever. just a few generations YOUR great-grandparents were married at 14 and raising babies by 15. this overprotecting of teenagers just makes them whiny emo douches.
 
2010-03-23 07:54:04 PM  
ZAZ: Before Crawford v. Washington statements by an obviously upset woman to whomever happened to be nearby were considered at least as credible as testimony in court under oath. So it was possible to get a conviction when she consistently denied under oath that he ___ her and did not want to pursue charges, as long as there was a witness to testify that she seemed upset and said the guy just ___ her. I'm not sure if that rule survived the Supreme Court; it is distinguishable from the next day police interview that the court said was inadmissible.

You didn't say rape twice.
 
2010-03-23 07:55:06 PM  
PullmyHair: Ow! That was my feelings!:

penis = liar

vagina = victim

39 year old man = molester
11 year old girl = victim

It can't be the other way around now, can it?


Someone is under the impression that tweens and teenagers are innocent little beings who don't know how to get what they want from adults in devious ways.

Also, we're talking 13 years here, so let's be somewhat honest, okay? 11 is typically pre-pubescent, 13 in girls is often smack dab in puberty.

And finally, a 13 year old boy who has a 38 year old woman come on to him, assuming she's even remotely attractive, is probably in hog heaven.

/so many things wrong with your post, so many things
 
2010-03-23 07:59:25 PM  
PullmyHair: Ow! That was my feelings!: as somebody who knows a few 13 year olds, yes, it can.

I have yet to hear of a middle aged man crying down at the police station about how a 5th grader raped him over the weekend.

/You're needed 2 below in the sex slave thread


Not that. Several teenagers will accuse older men of rape just to get some something out of them. They know the accusation's power; even if the accusation is recanted, it can follow them for life. High school girls will threaten male teachers with this, unless they get a higher grade.

It's happened so often, in so many places, they make it a policy never to leave someone under 18 with someone over 18, unless the room is continuously photorecorded.
 
2010-03-23 08:03:50 PM  
PullmyHair: 39 year old man = molester
11 year old girl = victim

It can't be the other way around now, can it?


An 11-year-old is just a future shrieking, money-grubbing ex-wife, never forget that. Sure, right now she may like soccer and geography class and... um whatever the heck 11-year-olds like these days, but every sane Farker knows the beast that lurks inside. The terrible vagina beast that will destroy their lives and leave them the bitter, empty and squeezed lifeless husk of a man.
 
2010-03-23 08:05:09 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com>
 
2010-03-23 08:05:39 PM  
No Such Agency: PullmyHair: 39 year old man = molester
11 year old girl = victim

It can't be the other way around now, can it?

An 11-year-old is just a future shrieking, money-grubbing ex-wife, never forget that. Sure, right now she may like soccer and geography class and... um whatever the heck 11-year-olds like these days, but every sane Farker knows the beast that lurks inside. The terrible vagina beast that will destroy their lives and leave them the bitter, empty and squeezed lifeless husk of a man.


Happily married, then? :D
 
2010-03-23 08:08:22 PM  
I stuck my fingers in a 12 year old
speaker once.
 
2010-03-23 08:08:47 PM  
drjekel_mrhyde: I stuck my fingers in a 12 year old
speaker once.


Shocker?
 
2010-03-23 08:15:05 PM  
eskimeaux: Most studies put false reporting at between 1-3% of rape allegations.

heh.

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/jbs/maysession/KaninFalseRapeAllegations.pdf

Kanin, E - False Rape Allegations - Archives of Sexual Behavior, VoL 23, No. L 1994

Abstract:
With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a 9 year period were studied. These false rape allegations constitute 41% the total forcible rape cases (n = 109) reported during this period.

Before you say, "but but, that's just one study" keep in mind, it's one more study than you've posted. This took me two seconds of research and I didn't bother to read beyond the abstract because I'm not here to play dueling googlers. I just wanted to go see what I could find.
 
2010-03-23 08:19:49 PM  
Gunny Highway: No means no, unless the question is, "Is NoMeansNo the greatest Canadian rock band ever?"

/Then no is actually yes?
//Ugh my head hurts


NoMeansNo is indeed the greatest Canadian rock band ever.

Did you see they released non-album tracks from the 0+2=1 sessions for free?
 
2010-03-23 08:19:59 PM  
I'm not going to think this through too thoroughly, but if her 1st and 2nd complaints are admissible, then the recantation in between should be, too. Welcome to the world of reasonable doubt.

Not a comment on his guilt or innocence, merely a comment that the DA should have a lot to overcome here.
 
2010-03-23 08:23:58 PM  
kidsizedcoffin: drjekel_mrhyde: I stuck my fingers in a 12 year old
speaker once.

Shocker?


i42.tinypic.com
 
2010-03-23 08:24:05 PM  
proletarian: Gunny Highway: No means no, unless the question is, "Is NoMeansNo the greatest Canadian rock band ever?"

/Then no is actually yes?
//Ugh my head hurts

NoMeansNo is indeed the greatest Canadian rock band ever.

Did you see they released non-album tracks from the 0+2=1 sessions for free?


No I didnt but thank you oh so very much my friend. Cheers.
 
2010-03-23 08:24:25 PM  
Theaetetus: She recanted? Obviously, she's a dirty lying slut!

The girl told police that she recanted because the allegations caused her family problems, stated the affidavit.

Oooh, or not so much. This is way too common - victim brings a real, legitimate accusation, and is ostracized by family and friends, particularly when the accused perpetrator is a family member, classmate, or friend. Under the pressure, the victim recants the accusation, and then a bunch of asshats jump out of the woodwork to say that she must have been lying originally.


What's way too common is women crying rape because they changed their mind the morning/day after when she doesn't want to feel like a slut.

Even when a guy gets completely cleared he is still looked upon with suspicion by the community.

Women who falsely cry rape should be jailed....for a long time.

\sick of the hypocrisy.
 
2010-03-23 08:24:49 PM  
Honest Bender: The girl was 13 at the time of the alleged assault. Which leaves me wondering.... if she wasn't old enough to consent to sex, does that also mean she wasn't old enough to refuse?

That's not how it works.

I really hope you're trolling.

Consent is not an assumed status, it must be given. I don't have to 'refuse' anything. If I don't consent (and have the ability to consent), it's by definition non-consensual. Lemme put it this way:

If I sedate you, and cut out your liver, is it okay because you never had the chance to say "no"?
 
2010-03-23 08:25:34 PM  
The girl told police that she recanted because the allegations caused her family problems, stated the affidavit.

Sounds like someone at home was jealous. No one likes competition.

kidsizedcoffin: drjekel_mrhyde: I stuck my fingers in a 12 year old
speaker once.

Shocker?


No, but I bet she stuttered.
 
2010-03-23 08:26:07 PM  
Tofu: eskimeaux: Most studies put false reporting at between 1-3% of rape allegations.

heh.

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/jbs/maysession/KaninFalseRapeAllegations.pdf

Kanin, E - False Rape Allegations - Archives of Sexual Behavior, VoL 23, No. L 1994

Abstract:
With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a 9 year period were studied. These false rape allegations constitute 41% the total forcible rape cases (n = 109) reported during this period.

Before you say, "but but, that's just one study" keep in mind, it's one more study than you've posted. This took me two seconds of research and I didn't bother to read beyond the abstract because I'm not here to play dueling googlers. I just wanted to go see what I could find.


Get ready to get called names. Since he has no facts, only his feelings, you will be character assassinated now. You horrible, horrible man. Why can't see the pain those poor women must have went through??!! You should be ashamed. Et cetera.
 
2010-03-23 08:26:23 PM  
el wharrrgarblo: What's way too common is women crying rape because they changed their mind the morning/day after when she doesn't want to feel like a slut.

images1.fanpop.com
 
2010-03-23 08:26:40 PM  
BolshevikMuppet: Honest Bender: The girl was 13 at the time of the alleged assault. Which leaves me wondering.... if she wasn't old enough to consent to sex, does that also mean she wasn't old enough to refuse?

That's not how it works.

I really hope you're trolling.

Consent is not an assumed status, it must be given. I don't have to 'refuse' anything. If I don't consent (and have the ability to consent), it's by definition non-consensual. Lemme put it this way:

If I sedate you, and cut out your liver, is it okay because you never had the chance to say "no"?


images.starcraftmazter.net
 
2010-03-23 08:27:01 PM  
If/when a guy (drunk or not) were to stumble through the streets of a really bad neighborhood late at night holding two burlap sacks full of cash - with actual dollar signs printed on the sides as they do in cartoons - and was robbed for every person who called him a "victim" 500 would call him an "idiot" for putting himself in that situation.

Conversely if/when a woman dressed in her finest "ho" attire who's been giving free lap dances to anybody with a penis for the last three hours then drunkenly agrees to go up to some guys room at a frat party, leave a bar with him, etc and has sex that she - and the victimhood industry later decides was "rape" - why is there nobody calling her an idiot for putting herself in that situation?

They're not demonstrably different . . . .

Furthermore, given the fact that soooooooooo many "rape" allegations are either fabricated from thin air and/or simply a woman's effort to redeem her sense of self respect after making a really bad and regretful decision I'm still at a loss as to how alcohol diminishes her consent to said sexual encounters when being intoxicated in any other circumstance will not mitigate her responsibility for her behavior . . . .?

Girl gets drunk and has sex? She was "raped."

Same girls gets drunk and kills six people with her car (or an axe, a gun, etc) and she will be held responsible for those acts.

What is this saying?

That, when drunk, one can "consent" to commit murder but cannot "consent" to having sex?

Or just that - in the eyes of the law - sex is somehow worse than murder?

Does. Not. Compute.
 
2010-03-23 08:27:46 PM  
Three Crooked Squirrels: el wharrrgarblo: What's way too common is women crying rape because they changed their mind the morning/day after when she doesn't want to feel like a slut.

There is a farking link right above your post.
 
2010-03-23 08:28:53 PM  
Lying is bad as rape. No matter what the truth is she lied.
 
2010-03-23 08:31:22 PM  
Gunny Highway: proletarian: Gunny Highway: No means no, unless the question is, "Is NoMeansNo the greatest Canadian rock band ever?"

/Then no is actually yes?
//Ugh my head hurts

NoMeansNo is indeed the greatest Canadian rock band ever.

Did you see they released non-album tracks from the 0+2=1 sessions for free?

No I didnt but thank you oh so very much my friend. Cheers.


Anytime. Don't know why I didn't add this to the last post: 0+2=1.5 (new window)
 
2010-03-23 08:35:18 PM  
el wharrrgarblo: Theaetetus: She recanted? Obviously, she's a dirty lying slut!

The girl told police that she recanted because the allegations caused her family problems, stated the affidavit.

Oooh, or not so much. This is way too common - victim brings a real, legitimate accusation, and is ostracized by family and friends, particularly when the accused perpetrator is a family member, classmate, or friend. Under the pressure, the victim recants the accusation, and then a bunch of asshats jump out of the woodwork to say that she must have been lying originally.

What's way too common is women crying rape because they changed their mind the morning/day after when she doesn't want to feel like a slut.

Even when a guy gets completely cleared he is still looked upon with suspicion by the community.

Women who falsely cry rape should be jailed....for a long time.

\sick of the hypocrisy.


el wharrrgarblo: Theaetetus: She recanted? Obviously, she's a dirty lying slut!

The girl told police that she recanted because the allegations caused her family problems, stated the affidavit.

Oooh, or not so much. This is way too common - victim brings a real, legitimate accusation, and is ostracized by family and friends, particularly when the accused perpetrator is a family member, classmate, or friend. Under the pressure, the victim recants the accusation, and then a bunch of asshats jump out of the woodwork to say that she must have been lying originally.

What's way too common is women crying rape because they changed their mind the morning/day after when she doesn't want to feel like a slut.

Even when a guy gets completely cleared he is still looked upon with suspicion by the community.

Women who falsely cry rape should be jailed....for a long time.

\sick of the hypocrisy.


Including, or excluding, the part where the actual instances of a woman claiming rape, it being investigated, and found to be false is about 8%?

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/Cius_97/96CRIME/96crime2.pdf

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs05/hors293.pdf

Not... Um... That common, eh?

Tofu: eskimeaux: Most studies put false reporting at between 1-3% of rape allegations.

heh.

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/jbs/maysession/KaninFalseRapeAllegations.pdf

Kanin, E - False Rape Allegations - Archives of Sexual Behavior, VoL 23, No. L 1994

Abstract:
With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a 9 year period were studied. These false rape allegations constitute 41% the total forcible rape cases (n = 109) reported during this period.

Before you say, "but but, that's just one study" keep in mind, it's one more study than you've posted. This took me two seconds of research and I didn't bother to read beyond the abstract because I'm not here to play dueling googlers. I just wanted to go see what I could find.


I'm not going to say "it's just one study". I am going to say "it's one of the most flawed studies I've ever seen on this issue". But, don't take my word for it:

Criticism of Dr. Kanin's report include Dr. David Lisak, an associate professor of psychology and director of the Men’s Sexual Trauma Research Project at the University of Massachusetts, Boston. In the September/October 2007 issue of the Sexual Assault Report he states “Kanin’s 1994 article on false allegations is a provocative opinion piece, but it is not a scientific study of the issue of false reporting of rape. It certainly should never be used to assert a scientific foundation for the frequency of false allegations.” He further states “[ Dr. Kanin] simply reiterates the opinions of the police officers who concluded that the cases in question were ‘false allegations.’” Lasik cites page 13 of Investigating Sexual Assaults from the iNternational Association of Chiefs of Police which says polygraph tests for sexual assault victims are contradicted in the investigation process and that their use is “based on the misperception that a significant percentage of sexual assault reports are false,”. Lasik goes on that “It is noteworthy that the police department from which Kanin derived his data used or threatened to use the polygraph in every case… The fact that it was the standard procedure of this department provides a window on the biases of the officers who conducted the rape investigations, biases that were then echoed in Kanin’s unchallenged reporting of their findings.”

Basically, you're going to get higher rates of recanting from traumatized women when you treat them more like they're lying biatches than victims. Go figure. And bear in mind that Kanin's research defined "false accusations" as those in which the woman recanted. The claims weren't independently investigated.

1. Treat a victim like a lying biatch, and she's more likely to not want to proceed with cooperating with police.
2. Call it a "false report"
3. Support the existing bias that women who claim rape are probably lying, thus compounding the problem.
4. ???
5. Profit.
 
2010-03-23 08:36:46 PM  
Tofu: eskimeaux: Most studies put false reporting at between 1-3% of rape allegations.

heh.

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/jbs/maysession/KaninFalseRapeAllegations.pdf

Kanin, E - False Rape Allegations - Archives of Sexual Behavior, VoL 23, No. L 1994

Abstract:
With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a 9 year period were studied. These false rape allegations constitute 41% the total forcible rape cases (n = 109) reported during this period.

Before you say, "but but, that's just one study" keep in mind, it's one more study than you've posted. This took me two seconds of research and I didn't bother to read beyond the abstract because I'm not here to play dueling googlers. I just wanted to go see what I could find.


No, it's one crap study. Know how he mentioned "the credibility of those has been attacked often enough that most sex crimes researchers would never cite them"? That's primarily referring to the Kanin study, which is the crappiest bunch of crap that ever crapped in crapland.
His "small metropolitan community" was a tiny town in the Midwest, with a Sheriff who presented a polygraph test to every person who reported being raped. You know that polygraphs don't detect lying, right? They detect anxiety. And when some Good Ol' Boy Sheriff is leaning over you, yelling about the consequences of perjury and pointing out how every time he slams his hand on the table, those needles jump, which means your nervous, which means you must be lying, and how would you like to get put in prison for this where your little rape fantasy will occur, huh, missy?! Or, you could just recant, and... hey, look, high recantation rate!

You want to show that those were actually false accusations? How come not a single one of them resulted in a conviction for bringing a false accusation? Not even one even resulted in charges. Which means it "proves" jackshiat... as noticed by every researcher who has reviewed that 20 year old study.

And before you say, "it's one more study than you've posted," that argument is about equal to saying that we've proven the existence of God 'cause the Bible exists and the Definitive Non-God Book doesn't. If your source material is shiat, it's a shiat premise.
 
2010-03-23 08:38:08 PM  
BolshevikMuppet: el wharrrgarblo: Theaetetus: She recanted? Obviously, she's a dirty lying slut!

The girl told police that she recanted because the allegations caused her family problems, stated the affidavit.

Oooh, or not so much. This is way too common - victim brings a real, legitimate accusation, and is ostracized by family and friends, particularly when the accused perpetrator is a family member, classmate, or friend. Under the pressure, the victim recants the accusation, and then a bunch of asshats jump out of the woodwork to say that she must have been lying originally.

What's way too common is women crying rape because they changed their mind the morning/day after when she doesn't want to feel like a slut.

Even when a guy gets completely cleared he is still looked upon with suspicion by the community.

Women who falsely cry rape should be jailed....for a long time.

\sick of the hypocrisy.

el wharrrgarblo: Theaetetus: She recanted? Obviously, she's a dirty lying slut!

The girl told police that she recanted because the allegations caused her family problems, stated the affidavit.

Oooh, or not so much. This is way too common - victim brings a real, legitimate accusation, and is ostracized by family and friends, particularly when the accused perpetrator is a family member, classmate, or friend. Under the pressure, the victim recants the accusation, and then a bunch of asshats jump out of the woodwork to say that she must have been lying originally.

What's way too common is women crying rape because they changed their mind the morning/day after when she doesn't want to feel like a slut.

Even when a guy gets completely cleared he is still looked upon with suspicion by the community.

Women who falsely cry rape should be jailed....for a long time.

\sick of the hypocrisy.

Including, or excluding, the part where the actual instances of a woman claiming rape, it being investigated, and found to be false is about 8%?

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/Cius_97/96CRIME/96crime2.pdf

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs05/hors293.pdf

Not... Um... That common, eh?

Tofu: eskimeaux: Most studies put false reporting at between 1-3% of rape allegations.

heh.

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/jbs/maysession/KaninFalseRapeAllegations.pdf

Kanin, E - False Rape Allegations - Archives of Sexual Behavior, VoL 23, No. L 1994

Abstract:
With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a 9 year period were studied. These false rape allegations constitute 41% the total forcible rape cases (n = 109) reported during this period.

Before you say, "but but, that's just one study" keep in mind, it's one more study than you've posted. This took me two seconds of research and I didn't bother to read beyond the abstract because I'm not here to play dueling googlers. I just wanted to go see what I could find.

I'm not going to say "it's just one study". I am going to say "it's one of the most flawed studies I've ever seen on this issue". But, don't take my word for it:

Criticism of Dr. Kanin's report include Dr. David Lisak, an associate professor of psychology and director of the Men’s Sexual Trauma Research Project at the University of Massachusetts, Boston. In the September/October 2007 issue of the Sexual Assault Report he states â€Ã..."Kanin’s 1994 article on false allegations is a provocative opinion piece, but it is not a scientific study of the issue of false reporting of rape. It certainly should never be used to assert a scientific foundation for the frequency of false allegations.” He further states â€Ã..."[ Dr. Kanin] simply reiterates the opinions of the police officers who concluded that the cases in question were â€ËÅ"false allegations.’” Lasik cites page 13 of Investigating Sexual Assaults from the iNternational Association of Chiefs of Police which says polygraph tests for sexual assault victims are contradicted in the investigation process and that their use is â€Ã..."based on the misperception that a significant percent ...


WAY to many words, blah, blah, blah...
 
2010-03-23 08:38:29 PM  
el wharrrgarblo: What's way too common

You have numbers?

Or is this going to be "well, when I said 'way too common,' I meant that even a single false accusation is too much!"
 
2010-03-23 08:38:30 PM  
It's good to see one thread where the pedos, the he-man woman haters and the mens' rights advocates can all get together for camaraderie and companionship.
 
2010-03-23 08:39:35 PM  
el wharrrgarblo: Get ready to get called names. Since he has no facts, only his feelings, you will be character assassinated now. You horrible, horrible man. Why can't see the pain those poor women must have went through??!! You should be ashamed. Et cetera.

Oh, sorry. Didn't realize you were just an ad hominem troll. Never mind, disregard my previous post.
 
2010-03-23 08:41:09 PM  
Ow! That was my feelings! 2010-03-23 07:52:56 PM
PullmyHair: Ow! That was my feelings!: as somebody who knows a few 13 year olds, yes, it can.

I have yet to hear of a middle aged man crying down at the police station about how a 5th grader raped him over the weekend.

/You're needed 2 below in the sex slave thread

whatever. just a few generations YOUR great-grandparents were married at 14 and raising babies by 15. this overprotecting of teenagers just makes them whiny emo douches.


Someone sound angry he can't bone his neighbor's 14 year old daughter.
 
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