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(Courier Mail)   Note to the Australian police: If somebody beating an unconscious officer responds to your pulling a weapon with taunts of "what are you going to do, shoot us?" the correct answer is normally "yes"   (couriermail.com.au) divider line 87
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2010-03-23 07:52:16 AM
Why can't this happen to American cops?

Our police forces are the ones running rampant with corruption, graft, and outright theft.
 
2010-03-23 08:07:14 AM
SchlingFocker: Why can't this happen to American cops?

Because in America, if you do that you end up on the receiving end of a lead cocktail directly inserted in your brain, jaw, left shoulder, liver, stomach and possibly a bystander to your right.

That's why. And rightly so. Except for the bystander, but you know, eggs, omelets and all that.
 
2010-03-23 08:24:36 AM
Tatsuma: Except for the bystander, but you know, eggs, omelets and all that.

If the bystanders keep standing by taking cell phone pics while a police officer gets bashed, they kind of deserve it too. Hell, they were probably encouraging the bashing.
 
2010-03-23 08:24:52 AM
Time for a bit of the old "ultra-violence"? Take one in the stinking rot! And then off for a bit of the synthe-milk.
 
2010-03-23 08:25:01 AM
How the fark does a trained cop get taken out by two petrol-sniffing abos, one of them a teenage girl?
 
2010-03-23 08:25:09 AM
A cop was getting his head and face kicked in, in public, and it took non-police public bystanders to save him while the other cop (the worthless milktoast partner) just stood there, dumbfounded, watching with his pistol drawn?

Hole. Ee. Crap.
 
2010-03-23 08:25:13 AM
Why would anyone be surprised at senseless violence in the birthplace of Hitler?
 
2010-03-23 08:26:02 AM
Dissapointed no one was shot.
What was partner doing? He pointed gun-then they ran away?
Also why was cop unconscious in first place?
 
2010-03-23 08:27:07 AM
yeah that partner's getting hung up by his tighty whiteys in the locker room for the next forever or so.
 
2010-03-23 08:34:23 AM
No tasers down under? Just zap the hooligans with thousands of watts, and after they spasm, hit em again.

You can shoot them just for fun after the zapping
 
2010-03-23 08:34:24 AM
The cops and other authorities here in Canada and the US must be a breed apart. I lived in the UK and was shocked to hear on a daily basis how police vehicles, fire trucks, and ambulances were constantly vandalized and the people driving them were under regular abuse from punk teens. I even remember watching a news report where a fire truck was responding to an arson call and a gang of youth starting raining bricks and stones down on the firefighters as they showed up. They had to back up and get away and called the cops to escort them in. When the cops showed up, THEY got all that shiat thrown at them too.

And so I'm watching this and thinking to myself, what the fark is wrong with this picture? In Canada our firefighters are built like brick shaithouses and I know I wouldn't want to piss any of them off. And as for the cops, no way would I try my luck with one. Each and every one of them packs a pistol on their belt and a 12-gauge in the cruiser. Nevermind the hand-to-hand training they learn as well.
 
2010-03-23 08:35:02 AM
Too many stupid laws, people start disrespecting both the law and the enforcers.
 
2010-03-23 08:35:50 AM
"Fearing for my safety, and for the life and safety of the unconscious officer, I shot his assailant after giving verbal warning to cease and desist their actions".

While there is a hesitation about shooting someone who may not be trying to kill you, it can and should be done more often.

Shoot enough of them and it stops the behavior from becoming acceptable.
 
2010-03-23 08:35:51 AM
Fearofablankplanet: Time for a bit of the old "ultra-violence"? Take one in the stinking rot! And then off for a bit of the synthe-milk.

That would be just horrorshow!
 
2010-03-23 08:36:03 AM
I think they're less allowed to shoot people here than in the USA but to be honest I mostly just read that article to see if there really was a place called Innisfail.
 
2010-03-23 08:36:52 AM
i512.photobucket.com

What the benchmark for police brutality may look like in Australia.
 
2010-03-23 08:42:02 AM
One wonders what the answer to the question was. What exactly did he intend to do when he pulled his weapon? "Stop that, or I'll brandish my weapon some more!"
 
2010-03-23 08:43:13 AM
Where did this happen? InnisFAIL????

/'nuff said
 
2010-03-23 08:44:24 AM
stevetherobot: One wonders what the answer to the question was. What exactly did he intend to do when he pulled his weapon? "Stop that, or I'll brandish my weapon some more!"

at this point I'm willing to believe that if he hadn't had it in his hands, the teen girl would have gotten hold of it and killed him.
 
2010-03-23 08:46:22 AM
Tatsuma: SchlingFocker: Why can't this happen to American cops?

Because in America, if you do that you end up on the receiving end of a lead cocktail directly inserted in your brain, jaw, left shoulder, liver, stomach and possibly a bystander to your right.

That's why. And rightly so. Except for the bystander, but you know, eggs, omelets and all that.


Wait a minute, they put eggs in omelets now?
 
2010-03-23 08:48:14 AM
benlonghair: Too many stupid laws, people start disrespecting both the law and the enforcers.

Are you blaming Obamacare?
 
2010-03-23 08:48:54 AM
I imagine the cop didn't shoot her because there were people around. Maybe they were in a crowded area. Even if the cop got her square in the chest, I suppose there's a chance it'd still rip through her and get someone else - actually that's a good question: what caliber bullets do australian police use...and since I know only a little about guns, what does that mean?

That having been said, I'd have pistol-whipped the living fark out of the little psycho.

You really don't ever hear about this type of thing in the US. I think our police are, largely, corrupt power-trippers, but you really don't often hear stories about our cops standing there while something like this happens. And is it just me, or do these European (oh, they SAY they're not, but they are..) teenage girls seem a lot scarier than ours?
 
2010-03-23 08:53:07 AM
GIS for Australian Police:

www.sumavanet.cz
 
2010-03-23 08:54:37 AM
These kids sound like real assets to society. Better execute them now so better people won't have to suffer in the future from their selfish and destructive behavior.

And you only think I'm trolling.
 
2010-03-23 08:56:32 AM
Fearofablankplanet: Time for a bit of the old "ultra-violence"? Take one in the stinking rot! And then off for a bit of the synthe-milk.

I don't think so, I'm too young to die.
 
2010-03-23 08:56:48 AM
All the cops around here in middle Georgia are packing both a sidearm and a taser. That gives them the flexibility for these types of situations.

// have always hoped they don't grab the wrong one at the wrong time
 
2010-03-23 08:57:08 AM
Meatzilla: A cop was getting his head and face kicked in, in public, and it took non-police public bystanders to save him while the other cop (the worthless milktoast partner) just stood there, dumbfounded, watching with his pistol drawn?

Hole. Ee. Crap.


img718.imageshack.us

He was fumbling for his bullet...
 
2010-03-23 08:58:39 AM
Baldanders: I imagine the cop didn't shoot her because there were people around. Maybe they were in a crowded area. Even if the cop got her square in the chest, I suppose there's a chance it'd still rip through her and get someone else - actually that's a good question: what caliber bullets do australian police use...and since I know only a little about guns, what does that mean?

That having been said, I'd have pistol-whipped the living fark out of the little psycho.

You really don't ever hear about this type of thing in the US. I think our police are, largely, corrupt power-trippers, but you really don't often hear stories about our cops standing there while something like this happens. And is it just me, or do these European (oh, they SAY they're not, but they are..) teenage girls seem a lot scarier than ours?


Most of the world's police forces use the 9mm as a default with other calibers as options. The 9mm is a great round, but it doesn't tumble as much as other calibers, meaning it penetrates quite well and in close range can go "through and through" and then into someone else. BTW, caliber denotes the size of the bullet as reference to it's diameter. 9mm is 9 milimeters from side to side of the round, .45 is .45 inches in diameter, so on and so forth. Another big consideration is difference between pistol and rifle rounds, as in a .50AE (Pistol like the Desert Eagle) is NOT the same as .50BMG (Rifle like Barrett Sniper and Browning Machine Gun) although they have the same diameter.

I think the main thing is Australia is overseen by the Nanny state and the amount of outrage the public would have over a cop killing a teenage girl because she was kicking an officer would be incredible. He should have just rugby tackled them to the ground and restrained them. In the U.S. the reaction would be more "You kicked a downed cop, broke his jaw, laughed at it, then got shot? What did you think would happen?"
 
2010-03-23 08:59:10 AM
Back to the point of subby's original headline. The answer should have been "yes." He even could have elaborated, "Touch my partner again and eat lead, dirtbags!" I don't know if they carry tasers, but I'd have hit them with that without any order to cease and desist. I mean, do you really have to be given an order to cease and desist assaulting an unconscious police officer? My town, that's a shootin'.

As a parent, it's tough to think what if it was my seventeen year old girl doing something stupid and being shot out of hand for it, but then again, if your kid is kicking a police officer while he's already down and out, you have FAILED as a parent.
 
2010-03-23 09:00:09 AM
insertcutename: And so I'm watching this and thinking to myself, what the fark is wrong with this picture? In Canada our firefighters are built like brick shaithouses and I know I wouldn't want to piss any of them off. And as for the cops, no way would I try my luck with one. Each and every one of them packs a pistol on their belt and a 12-gauge in the cruiser. Nevermind the hand-to-hand training they learn as well.

That's your reasoning for not attacking public servants? Because they're built well and carry weapons? What about the fact that they're supposed to be here to help you? Or the fact that you shouldn't be attacking people who have done you no wrong or impose no threat to your well being? Doesn't that count for anything?

I've seen the same films of Brit hooligans and such in similar situations and I remember being shocked as well. As much as I admire Europe, like every place on Earth, it definitely has its issues.
 
2010-03-23 09:01:06 AM
kendelrio: Where did this happen? InnisFAIL????

/'nuff said


Came here to say this, glad I wasn't the only one.
 
2010-03-23 09:02:32 AM
insertcutename: The cops and other authorities here in Canada and the US must be a breed apart. I lived in the UK and was shocked to hear on a daily basis how police vehicles, fire trucks, and ambulances were constantly vandalized and the people driving them were under regular abuse from punk teens. I even remember watching a news report where a fire truck was responding to an arson call and a gang of youth starting raining bricks and stones down on the firefighters as they showed up. They had to back up and get away and called the cops to escort them in. When the cops showed up, THEY got all that shiat thrown at them too.

And so I'm watching this and thinking to myself, what the fark is wrong with this picture? In Canada our firefighters are built like brick shaithouses and I know I wouldn't want to piss any of them off. And as for the cops, no way would I try my luck with one. Each and every one of them packs a pistol on their belt and a 12-gauge in the cruiser. Nevermind the hand-to-hand training they learn as well.


One guy I am familiar with who's becoming a CHP Officer (don't worry, he's a possibly psychotic drunk with poor impulse control and used to enjoy weed, so he'll fit right in) said they gave him a catalogue. He's ordering an M4. I blame those guys who ended up inspiring Heat.
 
2010-03-23 09:04:32 AM
Cythraul: insertcutename: And so I'm watching this and thinking to myself, what the fark is wrong with this picture? In Canada our firefighters are built like brick shaithouses and I know I wouldn't want to piss any of them off. And as for the cops, no way would I try my luck with one. Each and every one of them packs a pistol on their belt and a 12-gauge in the cruiser. Nevermind the hand-to-hand training they learn as well.

That's your reasoning for not attacking public servants? Because they're built well and carry weapons? What about the fact that they're supposed to be here to help you? Or the fact that you shouldn't be attacking people who have done you no wrong or impose no threat to your well being? Doesn't that count for anything?

I've seen the same films of Brit hooligans and such in similar situations and I remember being shocked as well. As much as I admire Europe, like every place on Earth, it definitely has its issues.


Yes, you got it! That's the only reason for not attacking public servants!

I see that you can cut to the point of any post flawlessly.
 
2010-03-23 09:09:20 AM
insertcutename: Cythraul: insertcutename: And so I'm watching this and thinking to myself, what the fark is wrong with this picture? In Canada our firefighters are built like brick shaithouses and I know I wouldn't want to piss any of them off. And as for the cops, no way would I try my luck with one. Each and every one of them packs a pistol on their belt and a 12-gauge in the cruiser. Nevermind the hand-to-hand training they learn as well.

That's your reasoning for not attacking public servants? Because they're built well and carry weapons? What about the fact that they're supposed to be here to help you? Or the fact that you shouldn't be attacking people who have done you no wrong or impose no threat to your well being? Doesn't that count for anything?

I've seen the same films of Brit hooligans and such in similar situations and I remember being shocked as well. As much as I admire Europe, like every place on Earth, it definitely has its issues.

Yes, you got it! That's the only reason for not attacking public servants!

I see that you can cut to the point of any post flawlessly.


Well, you didn't mention anything else other than those reasons. It makes me wonder if you're not a sociopath who's too concerned about his or her physical health to try and mortally injure another person, which would be a bit amusing. "Well, I'm bored, so I really would like to see what it'd be like to throw this brick and bash that fireman in the head, who's trying to put out that fire. But, I really don't want to risk getting bruised if he tries to fight me. OH well. Maybe I'll see what it's like to kill someone some other day when there's less risk to me."

Good reasons though. I know I always restrain myself from trying to murder people because I'm too worried that they may survive and try to attack me if I attempt to take their life.
 
2010-03-23 09:11:39 AM
Cythraul: insertcutename: Cythraul: insertcutename: And so I'm watching this and thinking to myself, what the fark is wrong with this picture? In Canada our firefighters are built like brick shaithouses and I know I wouldn't want to piss any of them off. And as for the cops, no way would I try my luck with one. Each and every one of them packs a pistol on their belt and a 12-gauge in the cruiser. Nevermind the hand-to-hand training they learn as well.

That's your reasoning for not attacking public servants? Because they're built well and carry weapons? What about the fact that they're supposed to be here to help you? Or the fact that you shouldn't be attacking people who have done you no wrong or impose no threat to your well being? Doesn't that count for anything?

I've seen the same films of Brit hooligans and such in similar situations and I remember being shocked as well. As much as I admire Europe, like every place on Earth, it definitely has its issues.

Yes, you got it! That's the only reason for not attacking public servants!

I see that you can cut to the point of any post flawlessly.

Well, you didn't mention anything else other than those reasons. It makes me wonder if you're not a sociopath who's too concerned about his or her physical health to try and mortally injure another person, which would be a bit amusing. "Well, I'm bored, so I really would like to see what it'd be like to throw this brick and bash that fireman in the head, who's trying to put out that fire. But, I really don't want to risk getting bruised if he tries to fight me. OH well. Maybe I'll see what it's like to kill someone some other day when there's less risk to me."

Good reasons though. I know I always restrain myself from trying to murder people because I'm too worried that they may survive and try to attack me if I attempt to take their life.


Lighten up, Francis.
 
2010-03-23 09:12:27 AM
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2010-03-23 09:12:45 AM
Cythraul: Well, you didn't mention anything else other than those reasons.

You know, the way I read insertcutename's post, it sounded like he was trying more to emphasize the physical capabilities of our public servants rather than any personal morals.

Or to put it simply, it was more to say, "what kind of pansies do they have for cops over there?!" rather than "I am a sociopath kept only in check by fear of retaliation". But you know, I tend to read between the lines and try not to be intentionally obtuse about things.
 
2010-03-23 09:12:58 AM
PJ_the_Barbarian: Cythraul: insertcutename: Cythraul: insertcutename: And so I'm watching this and thinking to myself, what the fark is wrong with this picture? In Canada our firefighters are built like brick shaithouses and I know I wouldn't want to piss any of them off. And as for the cops, no way would I try my luck with one. Each and every one of them packs a pistol on their belt and a 12-gauge in the cruiser. Nevermind the hand-to-hand training they learn as well.

That's your reasoning for not attacking public servants? Because they're built well and carry weapons? What about the fact that they're supposed to be here to help you? Or the fact that you shouldn't be attacking people who have done you no wrong or impose no threat to your well being? Doesn't that count for anything?

I've seen the same films of Brit hooligans and such in similar situations and I remember being shocked as well. As much as I admire Europe, like every place on Earth, it definitely has its issues.

Yes, you got it! That's the only reason for not attacking public servants!

I see that you can cut to the point of any post flawlessly.

Well, you didn't mention anything else other than those reasons. It makes me wonder if you're not a sociopath who's too concerned about his or her physical health to try and mortally injure another person, which would be a bit amusing. "Well, I'm bored, so I really would like to see what it'd be like to throw this brick and bash that fireman in the head, who's trying to put out that fire. But, I really don't want to risk getting bruised if he tries to fight me. OH well. Maybe I'll see what it's like to kill someone some other day when there's less risk to me."

Good reasons though. I know I always restrain myself from trying to murder people because I'm too worried that they may survive and try to attack me if I attempt to take their life.

Lighten up, Francis.


Are you a big person who could defend themselves? Or are you someone who might be an easy target in a fight? I have an urge to satisfy.
 
2010-03-23 09:15:45 AM
This wouldn't have happened to Judge Dredd.
 
2010-03-23 09:16:33 AM
JohDHJ: Cythraul: Well, you didn't mention anything else other than those reasons.

You know, the way I read insertcutename's post, it sounded like he was trying more to emphasize the physical capabilities of our public servants rather than any personal morals.

Or to put it simply, it was more to say, "what kind of pansies do they have for cops over there?!" rather than "I am a sociopath kept only in check by fear of retaliation". But you know, I tend to read between the lines and try not to be intentionally obtuse about things.


Yeah, okay. Because most rational people who talk about such attacks speak of it only in such a manner rather than mention about the general abhorrent nature of such attacks.

Anyway... no point in arguing over this. Because everyone is right on the internet.
 
2010-03-23 09:17:34 AM
Cythraul: PJ_the_Barbarian: Cythraul: insertcutename: Cythraul: insertcutename: And so I'm watching this and thinking to myself, what the fark is wrong with this picture? In Canada our firefighters are built like brick shaithouses and I know I wouldn't want to piss any of them off. And as for the cops, no way would I try my luck with one. Each and every one of them packs a pistol on their belt and a 12-gauge in the cruiser. Nevermind the hand-to-hand training they learn as well.

That's your reasoning for not attacking public servants? Because they're built well and carry weapons? What about the fact that they're supposed to be here to help you? Or the fact that you shouldn't be attacking people who have done you no wrong or impose no threat to your well being? Doesn't that count for anything?

I've seen the same films of Brit hooligans and such in similar situations and I remember being shocked as well. As much as I admire Europe, like every place on Earth, it definitely has its issues.

Yes, you got it! That's the only reason for not attacking public servants!

I see that you can cut to the point of any post flawlessly.

Well, you didn't mention anything else other than those reasons. It makes me wonder if you're not a sociopath who's too concerned about his or her physical health to try and mortally injure another person, which would be a bit amusing. "Well, I'm bored, so I really would like to see what it'd be like to throw this brick and bash that fireman in the head, who's trying to put out that fire. But, I really don't want to risk getting bruised if he tries to fight me. OH well. Maybe I'll see what it's like to kill someone some other day when there's less risk to me."

Good reasons though. I know I always restrain myself from trying to murder people because I'm too worried that they may survive and try to attack me if I attempt to take their life.

Lighten up, Francis.

Are you a big person who could defend themselves? Or are you someone who might be an easy target in a fight? I have an urge to satisfy.


No you don't, you admire Europe too much.
 
2010-03-23 09:17:49 AM
Cythraul: Anyway... no point in arguing over this. Because everyone is right on the internet.

Plus I'd make you submit to my massive 16" e-peen if you continued to argue with me. And I know every martial arts on the planet. And I have to get to the gym in 26 minutes. This, that and the other thing.

/I think I covered all of the usual ITG responses.
 
2010-03-23 09:23:02 AM
The culprit in all her pent up rage glory

www.cairns.com.au
 
2010-03-23 09:30:06 AM
Meatzilla: A cop was getting his head and face kicked in, in public, and it took non-police public bystanders to save him while the other cop (the worthless milktoast partner) just stood there, dumbfounded, watching with his pistol drawn?

Hole. Ee. Crap.


Oh, it gets better. Random people had to chase the criminals away to stop the assault.

While the cop's partner continued to still stand there.

Is Australia really turning into complete pussies?
 
2010-03-23 09:48:53 AM
I'm usually a big fan of police restraint, but come on.
 
2010-03-23 09:49:10 AM
If the kids in the article were Abos then if the cop laid a hand on them he would be hung for genocide.

Hopeless boongs are a protected species in Austria. The only minority in the world that got their government to write a stern letter to Encycopedia Dramatica saying "take down your website".

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Aboriginal
 
2010-03-23 09:49:37 AM
And, no, I'm not talking about handcuffs.
 
2010-03-23 09:54:58 AM
What, no "Now, that's a knife!" ?
 
2010-03-23 10:05:47 AM
SchlingFocker: Why can't this happen to American cops?

Our police forces are the ones running rampant with corruption, graft, and outright theft.


Yet none of you have a problem with 99.9% of the politicians being full of corruption and theft, in fact most of you praised that shiatty health care bill being passed even after it was known people took covert bribes to votes yes.

I would say the police are less corrupt than the politicians but I can see reality.


And this being Australian Im sure all those involved will end up getting off with a stern warning............
 
2010-03-23 10:07:59 AM
WelldeadLink: What, no "Now, that's a knife!" ?

No, that meme is dead. Petrol Sniffing is the new hotness, and Austria is holding on.
 
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