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(News.com.au)   Dubai bans restaurants from cooking with alcohol. Apparently someone missed science class   (news.com.au) divider line 172
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2010-03-22 11:56:59 AM  
Wow, I guess any European resturants in Dubai will just be serving salad from now on.

But, I can understand why. After all, Islam is anti-booze.
 
2010-03-22 12:03:57 PM  
Islam forbids the production, sale and consumption of alcohol, but Dubai's ban applies only to cooking. Licensed hotels and restaurants with a permit will still be allowed to sell alcoholic drinks.

OK, you're really doing it wrong.
 
2010-03-22 12:06:17 PM  
ne2d: Islam forbids the production, sale and consumption of alcohol, but Dubai's ban applies only to cooking. Licensed hotels and restaurants with a permit will still be allowed to sell alcoholic drinks.

OK, you're really doing it wrong.


BWAHAHAHA. Nice. They're actually much dumber than blue laws in the US, and I didn't realize it could get that much dumber.
 
2010-03-22 12:12:32 PM  
Hahahaha, science in the Arabian peninsula. You're 2500 years too late.
 
2010-03-22 12:17:40 PM  
Islam forbids the production, sale and consumption of alcohol, but Dubai's ban applies only to cooking. Licensed hotels and restaurants with a permit will still be allowed to sell alcoholic drinks.

Ha-ha!

What the fark is wrong with those Islamotards. Don't they know that God doesn't just want to you live your life according to His rules, but that he wants you to force others to confirm to your beliefs too?
 
2010-03-22 12:32:55 PM  
ne2d: Islam forbids the production, sale and consumption of alcohol, but Dubai's ban applies only to cooking. Licensed hotels and restaurants with a permit will still be allowed to sell alcoholic drinks.

OK, you're really doing it wrong.


ROFLMAO!
 
2010-03-22 12:40:27 PM  
Beheading the infidel is still ok though.
 
2010-03-22 12:41:21 PM  
joshthewaster: Looks like subby is the one who missed class. Actually it was probably class that told subby wrong but anyway.


From here (new window)


Came here to say this (but half-assed and without references)
 
2010-03-22 12:41:53 PM  
ne2d: Islam forbids the production, sale and consumption of alcohol, but Dubai's ban applies only to cooking. Licensed hotels and restaurants with a permit will still be allowed to sell alcoholic drinks.

OK, you're really doing it wrong.


Wait so... they can't cook with it (because Islam forbids it) even though it would take a crap load of alcohol laced food to get drunk, but they can drink it (which Islam forbids) and get drunk off of much less? I don't get it.
 
2010-03-22 12:41:59 PM  
Wow, they're like the Pennsylvania of the Middle East. They just need to pick an arbitrary day of the week to ban automobile sales.
 
2010-03-22 12:42:28 PM  
Sounds like very Dubai-ous reasoning.
 
2010-03-22 12:42:55 PM  
Triaxis: Beheading the infidel is still ok though.

Really that has happened in dubai? Or are you just throwing together all Arab countries together?
 
2010-03-22 12:44:04 PM  
ne2d: Islam forbids the production, sale and consumption of alcohol, but Dubai's ban applies only to cooking. Licensed hotels and restaurants with a permit will still be allowed to sell alcoholic drinks.

OK, you're really doing it wrong.


logically it makes twisted sense. what they are trying to do is prevent Muslims from accidentally consuming alcohol through food.

/best cooking needs booze.
 
2010-03-22 12:44:18 PM  
How to improve The Middle East:

Air drop tons of booze and prOn.
 
2010-03-22 12:44:55 PM  
Eddie Adams from Torrance: What the fark is wrong with those Islamotards. Don't they know that God doesn't just want to you live your life according to His rules, but that he wants you to force others to confirm to your beliefs too?

Yeah could you imagine here if some people passed religious based laws banning the sell of alcohol on Sundays or something stupid like that... Oh wait!
 
2010-03-22 12:45:08 PM  
Yaxe: Wow, I guess any European resturants in Dubai will just be serving salad from now on.

But, I can understand why. After all, Islam is anti-booze.


Because they don't have to drink to be total assholes?
 
2010-03-22 12:45:17 PM  
So I guess the next logical step would be to ban cologne and mouthwash, right?
 
2010-03-22 12:45:47 PM  
joshthewaster --- chart isn't that impressive considering that unless you're talking moonshine, it's likely that any alcohol chefs/cooks use is 100 proof or less, and they don't exactly use a whole bottle to cook. i don't know anyone who's gotten drunk eating something with a vodka sauce or a steak with a Jack Daniels Steak sauce ... come on. Chemistry aside you'd have to ingest a tremendous amount of that to feel it. you'd get full before you'd get drunk.
 
2010-03-22 12:46:18 PM  
Perhaps it's just a roundabout way of banning the French...
 
2010-03-22 12:46:55 PM  
Dubai: Gordon Gecko meets a mediaeval theocracy. In a desert.
No thanks.
 
2010-03-22 12:47:22 PM  
Triaxis: Beheading the infidel is still ok though.

If you say so.
 
2010-03-22 12:47:23 PM  
Previously, dishes cooked with alcohol just had a mark next to them on the menu so Muslims could avoid them, just as pork dishes do.

No idea how this will shake out, but this sort of thing happens from time to time. Some stupid minister makes some stupid rule, and either everybody figures out it was stupid and it's quietly forgotten, or else the stupid rule sticks and everybody gets used to it.

Note that booze and pork are legal in Dubai, unlike most neighbors. Why some idiot decided cooking was a problem I have no idea. Maybe some restaurants weren't marking dishes properly on their menus? Who knows what gets a religious idiot worked up? My mother says Harry Potter is a tool of Satan to steal children's souls from Jesus. Whatever.
 
2010-03-22 12:47:29 PM  
Corvus: Eddie Adams from Torrance: What the fark is wrong with those Islamotards. Don't they know that God doesn't just want to you live your life according to His rules, but that he wants you to force others to confirm to your beliefs too?

Yeah could you imagine here if some people passed religious based laws banning the sell of alcohol on Sundays or something stupid like that... Oh wait!



It's amusing....my state (WA) didn't have Sunday liquor sales for the longest time. When they changed the law, only a handful of state liquor stores are open on Sunday. Religious influence? Fark no....it's the hacks in Olympia who enjoy having power.

/At least there aren't any Sunday restrictions on beer and wine in grocery stores.
 
2010-03-22 12:47:34 PM  
Man On Fire: what they are trying to do is prevent Muslims from accidentally consuming alcohol through food.

Eh... yeah it kinda makes sense. You might not know there's red wine in it, but you order a Martini... I can see the difference.
 
2010-03-22 12:48:09 PM  
So they're anti alcohol. The rag heads can't be all bad, they're pro rape. How can anyone that's pro rape be bad?
 
2010-03-22 12:49:18 PM  
meadcd: joshthewaster --- chart isn't that impressive considering that unless you're talking moonshine, it's likely that any alcohol chefs/cooks use is 100 proof or less, and they don't exactly use a whole bottle to cook. i don't know anyone who's gotten drunk eating something with a vodka sauce or a steak with a Jack Daniels Steak sauce ... come on. Chemistry aside you'd have to ingest a tremendous amount of that to feel it. you'd get full before you'd get drunk.

That is not the point. The point is that saying all alcohol cooks out is wrong. Now I don't give a shiat but some people have moral objection to the consumption of alcohol and have probably been talked into having some (though very small amounts) because some idiot said it all cooked off.

/just trying to help people be informed.
 
2010-03-22 12:49:24 PM  
StarshipPooper: So they're anti alcohol. The rag heads can't be all bad, they're pro rape. How can anyone that's pro rape be bad?

It's not rape over there; just giving them what they deserve. Like welfare or something. It's a socialist thing.
 
2010-03-22 12:49:57 PM  
HumbleGenius: Sounds like very Dubai-ous reasoning.

ha!
 
2010-03-22 12:50:13 PM  
joshthewaster: Looks like subby is the one who missed class. Actually it was probably class that told subby wrong but anyway.

Iiiiinteresting. I need a drink.

This Looks Fun: Wait so... they can't cook with it (because Islam forbids it) even though it would take a crap load of alcohol laced food to get drunk, but they can drink it (which Islam forbids) and get drunk off of much less? I don't get it.

Their concession is to foreign-catered establishments allowing their non-muslim patrons the comforts of home. The Muslims are expected to follow their own laws.

Now in Bahrain, which is a small, island nation off of SA, the folks there are "out of the eyes of Allah" and thus can do pretty much whatever they want. You regularly see arabs in the bars drinking it up and consorting with the imported, indentured Russian/Chinese whores.

Especially odd is that they still have mosques. Talk about a "+++CARRIER LOST+++" situation.
 
2010-03-22 12:50:51 PM  
I want to punch myself endlessly already for saying this, but the Muslims need to be more Catholic in the sense that if they do something wrong (like accidentally consuming alcohol), they can just BS their way out with an imam confessional.
 
2010-03-22 12:50:53 PM  
Triaxis: Beheading the infidel is still ok though.

No, Dubai is very progressive. They arrest heterosexual couples for kissing in public, but they do not behead them. Homosexual couples now....anyone want to put that one to the test?
 
2010-03-22 12:52:24 PM  
Big_Fat_Liar: Triaxis: Beheading the infidel is still ok though.

No, Dubai is very progressive. They arrest heterosexual couples for kissing in public, but they do not behead them. Homosexual couples now....anyone want to put that one to the test?


They'll be killed the same way the gay King Edward II of England went- red hot poker in the bunghole.
 
2010-03-22 12:52:26 PM  
Flambé war!
 
2010-03-22 12:52:56 PM  
IF ever there was a country that needed to get drunk listen to loud music and get laid........

//repeat as needed The DR. is IN!
 
2010-03-22 12:53:23 PM  
Barakku: ne2d: Islam forbids the production, sale and consumption of alcohol, but Dubai's ban applies only to cooking. Licensed hotels and restaurants with a permit will still be allowed to sell alcoholic drinks.

OK, you're really doing it wrong.

BWAHAHAHA. Nice. They're actually much dumber than blue laws in the US, and I didn't realize it could get that much dumber.


No, it makes sense, in a way. It'd be like banning beef fat in dishes in india...People might eat it and then have a religious crisis.

Now what OUGHT to be done is simply label the dishes, but why inform, when you can ban?
 
2010-03-22 12:54:03 PM  
meadcd: Chemistry aside you'd have to ingest a tremendous amount of that to feel it. you'd get full before you'd get drunk.

The bible says that drunkenness is bad, but Islam (and I assume the Koran) says you can't have alcohol period. Jesus made wine; Mohammed made alcohol illegal. So it isn't a matter of "you can't even get drunk." It is a matter of the most popular religion (in terms of growth) in the world being really lame, even by church-going standards.
 
2010-03-22 12:54:26 PM  
Man On Fire: ne2d: Islam forbids the production, sale and consumption of alcohol, but Dubai's ban applies only to cooking. Licensed hotels and restaurants with a permit will still be allowed to sell alcoholic drinks.

OK, you're really doing it wrong.

logically it makes twisted sense. what they are trying to do is prevent Muslims from accidentally consuming alcohol through food.

/best cooking needs booze.


I see your point.
 
2010-03-22 12:54:39 PM  
Barakku: BWAHAHAHA. Nice. They're actually much dumber than blue laws in the US, and I didn't realize it could get that much dumber.

As shockingly-stupid as the US can seem, most of the world is worse.

/sadly, traveling has not improved my opinion of humanity
 
2010-03-22 12:54:44 PM  
Satanicpuppy: Barakku: ne2d: Islam forbids the production, sale and consumption of alcohol, but Dubai's ban applies only to cooking. Licensed hotels and restaurants with a permit will still be allowed to sell alcoholic drinks.

OK, you're really doing it wrong.

BWAHAHAHA. Nice. They're actually much dumber than blue laws in the US, and I didn't realize it could get that much dumber.

No, it makes sense, in a way. It'd be like banning beef fat in dishes in india...People might eat it and then have a religious crisis.

Now what OUGHT to be done is simply label the dishes, but why inform, when you can ban?


Exactly. Informing people would cause hundreds of executioners to lose their jobs. It's an economic decision.
 
2010-03-22 12:56:22 PM  
factoryconnection 2010-03-22 12:54:03 PM

meadcd: Chemistry aside you'd have to ingest a tremendous amount of that to feel it. you'd get full before you'd get drunk.

The bible says that drunkenness is bad, but Islam (and I assume the Koran) says you can't have alcohol period. Jesus made wine; Mohammed made alcohol illegal. So it isn't a matter of "you can't even get drunk." It is a matter of the most popular religion (in terms of growth) in the world being really lame, even by church-going standards.




Bbbbbut it was actually grape juice....you need to consider the translation.

/A Mormon kid actually told me that back in junior high.
 
2010-03-22 12:56:33 PM  
factoryconnection: meadcd: Chemistry aside you'd have to ingest a tremendous amount of that to feel it. you'd get full before you'd get drunk.

The bible says that drunkenness is bad, but Islam (and I assume the Koran) says you can't have alcohol period. Jesus made wine; Mohammed made alcohol illegal. So it isn't a matter of "you can't even get drunk." It is a matter of the most popular religion (in terms of growth) in the world being really lame, even by church-going standards.


Paul gave us bacon.
 
2010-03-22 12:57:11 PM  
meadcd: joshthewaster --- chart isn't that impressive considering that unless you're talking moonshine, it's likely that any alcohol chefs/cooks use is 100 proof or less, and they don't exactly use a whole bottle to cook. i don't know anyone who's gotten drunk eating something with a vodka sauce or a steak with a Jack Daniels Steak sauce ... come on. Chemistry aside you'd have to ingest a tremendous amount of that to feel it. you'd get full before you'd get drunk.

But that doesn't matter. The religious prohibition is against consuming alcohol, not getting drunk. And you can never burn off all the added alcohol in food that's not charred to carbon.

So, assuming you're the kind of person who thinks the sky-fairy is going to kick you out of heaven for consuming trace amounts of a prohibited substance, it makes perfect sense to ban it.
 
2010-03-22 12:57:14 PM  
Satanicpuppy: No, it makes sense, in a way. It'd be like banning beef fat in dishes in india...People might eat it and then have a religious crisis.

Yes, their deity might smite them, and they would never see it coming.
 
2010-03-22 12:57:56 PM  
This Looks Fun: Wait so... they can't cook with it (because Islam forbids it) even though it would take a crap load of alcohol laced food to get drunk, but they can drink it (which Islam forbids) and get drunk off of much less? I don't get it.

Are you guys just pretending to be stupid? The idea, which I do not support, is that at a restaurant, one could unknowingly consume alcohol if it has been cooked into the dish. I doubt anyone accidentally orders a martini in the bar.
 
2010-03-22 12:58:06 PM  
It's hard as hell to find a good pulled pork sammich over there too.
I'll just stay here.
TYVM
 
2010-03-22 12:58:32 PM  
www.sptimes.com

Ooompah!
 
2010-03-22 12:58:44 PM  
Satanicpuppy: But that doesn't matter. The religious prohibition is against consuming alcohol, not getting drunk. And you can never burn off all the added alcohol in food that's not charred to carbon.

So, assuming you're the kind of person who thinks the sky-fairy is going to kick you out of heaven for consuming trace amounts of a prohibited substance, it makes perfect sense to ban it.


Meh, there's always going to be a molecule or two around from microbial action, even in foods/drinks that shouldn't contain any alcohol. If you're going to be strict down to the last molecule, you're farked no matter what you do, so why bother?
 
2010-03-22 12:59:18 PM  
The_Sponge: Bbbbbut it was actually grape juice....you need to consider the translation.

/A Mormon kid actually told me that back in junior high.


A 30-year-old, adult Navy officer told me that very same thing at my last duty station. One of my other buddies correctly identified the teed-up ball and knocked it into the grandstands. The one that said it was a born-again evangelical after having been raised Catholic.

On an unrelated note, he was also a colossal sh*tbag of an officer. I always thought that if I didn't have to wade through hangovers and whatnot that I'd be a better officer... he didn't even have that excuse.
 
2010-03-22 12:59:41 PM  
jshine: Satanicpuppy: No, it makes sense, in a way. It'd be like banning beef fat in dishes in india...People might eat it and then have a religious crisis.

Yes, their deity might smite them, and they would never see it coming.


Yep. I can see it now: some suicide bomber shows up in paradise expecting his virgins, and instead he gets sent straight to hell because some evil chef flavored a sauce with a little brandy and he, unknowing, had eaten some.
 
2010-03-22 12:59:42 PM  
Do they still boil hotdogs in beer at baseball games? Those are some good hotdogs.
 
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