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(Grand Forks Herald)   North Dakota offers 50-percent reduction in student loans, up to $10,000 to move to the middle of nowhere   ( divider line
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2003-04-28 08:28:35 PM  
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2003-04-28 10:25:15 PM  
Kroke is selling off the business his father owns, and everything must go: the furniture upstairs, the hardware supplies by the counter, even the bike helmets shelved near the front windows for so long that their boxes faded in the sun.

Does his father know he's selling the store?
2003-04-29 12:01:54 AM  
Loan reduction...or warmth...
Reduction...or warmth...

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or this...
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I'll pay my dues, thx
2003-04-29 12:14:51 AM  
I've said it once, and I'll say it again, FARK the Grand Forks Herald!
2003-04-29 12:24:05 AM  
Watch out, Dakota, here come the Libertarians!
2003-04-29 12:25:01 AM  
What's with all the Grand Forks Herald links lately? There's other newspapers in North Dakota, you know.

Now if I could just think of one...
2003-04-29 12:26:27 AM  
looks nice, Malinois. where is it?
2003-04-29 12:27:57 AM  
$10,000 wouldn't make much of a dent in the $135,000 I owe in student loans.
2003-04-29 12:28:14 AM  
$10,000 for five years? So okay, they knock off ten grand of my college debt. Who's gonna pay the other $80,000 when I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere for half a decade and can't get a job that pays more than eight bucks an hour?
2003-04-29 12:29:12 AM  
Aqueduct_Pocket beat me to it. This plan sucks.
2003-04-29 12:29:27 AM  
fargo. i think i'm gonna barf....
2003-04-29 12:30:03 AM  
Damn, why the hell am I here in Louisiana...North dakota is calling me!
2003-04-29 12:30:08 AM  
c'mon aqueduct, don't you get royalties from those sessions with sarsippius?
2003-04-29 12:31:19 AM  
I used to pay to go to skol in north dakota, now I get paid to blow stuff up in hawaii. ND, what a shiat hole. I like Malinois's post, the beach is better. Screw college join the army hooah!!
2003-04-29 12:32:02 AM  
Yep, all that and jobs that generally don't pay more than $10-12 an hour, and you *might* get benefits too. Glad I left when I had the chance.
2003-04-29 12:32:22 AM  
If you're an illegal alien college is free in nebraska and a couple of other states. If you're a citizen come off the cash you cheap bastards.
2003-04-29 12:32:30 AM  
This sounds familiar...Grinnell College just offered me 7,500 bucks a year to go the middle of nowhere (Iowa). I decided, well, no. I'll have lots of debt where ever. And i don't want that where ever to be Iowa.
2003-04-29 12:33:36 AM  
Stubblyhead: Hatteras Island. I'm paying off my loans, and putting money towards property there. ;)
2003-04-29 12:34:23 AM  
To be specific, in the Rodanthe area.
2003-04-29 12:35:50 AM  
I'm sure they need seasoned political science majors in North Dakota. I'm on this biatch. Let's $10000 for every five years...I'll only be there for about...40 years.
2003-04-29 12:36:39 AM  

Some asshat is submitting every story (National and Local news) in the paper and most days all of them are rejected. For whatever reasons, stupid things like this get accepted.
2003-04-29 12:36:41 AM  
$7,500? Wouldn't even cover the cost of anything...

Iowa may not be as 'middle of nowhere' as it used to be... a few hour drive from many midwest entertainment stuff.

(Unless you are the type who needs to be near a 'happening' all the time. And I do NOT mean that to sound derogatory)
2003-04-29 12:37:54 AM  
Hmmmmm....perhaps a small college town up there would require the services of an English professor...
2003-04-29 12:39:43 AM  
$2000/year? That's like an insult.
2003-04-29 12:40:42 AM  
Stubblyhead Naw man, nobody's ever heard my hit single "whipped cream" royalties to be had there.
2003-04-29 12:41:23 AM  
Ten thousand dollars over five years to live in a place that will not supply you with the income you need to pay off the rest of the debt. I'm just jumping at that chance! For those who are interested it equates to a $190 a month assuming a student loan 5% interest rate.
2003-04-29 12:42:17 AM  
Lisa: North Dakota, here we come!
Bart: I always wanted to see Mount Rushmore!
Marge: That's South Dakota
2003-04-29 12:42:46 AM  
nice, i haven't been to that part of NC before, only in the western and piedmont areas. been looking for a job around raleigh actually, but no dice.
2003-04-29 12:43:18 AM  
well shiat, I'm in Platteville WI, aka bumblefark university. It can't get much worse than here
2003-04-29 12:43:48 AM  
"whipped cream, rub it over your boday.."
2003-04-29 12:47:25 AM  
I've grown up in San Francisco, so I kinda do need something to do on a Friday night besides running through some farmer's corn field (which is actually what they do on weekends, or so i was told by a freshman....) G-d I wish i were kidding....
2003-04-29 12:53:04 AM  
Being one of the people who has lived up there and lives in South Dakota now you have to remember a few things. Things are much much cheaper there. I remember my parents getting a cramped 2 bedroom apartment when we lived in Colorado Springs, CO for $750 + utilities. Theyve since moved back to ND and pay $250-300 per month for a two story house 15 miles out of Bismarck. Other things are that the Dakotas are especially forgiving to businesses (tax breaks, startup loans, etc). In SD there are no state income taxes, only sales tax. They dont want you to come up there to work at McDonalds. They want people to come up there and set up a business.
2003-04-29 12:58:53 AM  
they need to give up. If a town wants to die, let it do so in peace. If there is nothign to keep peopel there who cares, let them go. Its called a freemarket (well sorta) economy. In 50 years when there is no land left plenty of people will be back.

Bastard MN's that live near the border of SD. If you live in MN and work in SD you don't pay any income taxes, but get all the great MN roads n' shiate.
2003-04-29 01:04:39 AM  
I live in Minnesota, but not near the SD board Ravedave, instead I live near the nothing filled state of ND...I honestly don't care about ND's tuition problems cuz I'm going to college far far from snow as possible
2003-04-29 01:04:44 AM  
Ravedave--really? i both live and work in a state with no state income tax, but it seems to me that whether you pay them or not would be dictated by where you live, not where you work.
2003-04-29 01:12:02 AM  
Alaska has done this for years, for their state student loan program. Lots of folks never go back, despite the financial advantage.
2003-04-29 01:15:26 AM  
04-29-03 12:01:54 AM Malinois

Wow...somebody hasn't told him that the obx = old and busted. =(

It's like space coast, florida lite.
2003-04-29 01:15:48 AM  
Someone is cheating on their taxes. Youre taxes go to the state you vote in (it follows the same reason you dont pay sales tax on interstate sales, no taxation without representation). If you live in MN and work in SD you have to pay MN state taxes, at least thats the way its for my freinds going to school here but claim MN residency.

Great roads? Gimme a break. I love crossing the border to MN where the speed limit on non interstate highways is 55.
2003-04-29 01:16:22 AM  
interesting tax law is the athlete tax, which applies to where the athlete plays his games, not where he lives. so if a dallas cowboy lives in texas, where there's no income tax, but plays a game in CA, 1/16 of his salary may be taxed there. i don't know what other professions this applies to.
2003-04-29 01:24:00 AM  
I don't know...there are always a bunch of bored hotties in these rural areas. I would give it some serious thought.
2003-04-29 01:25:05 AM  
Dserhal--watch easy rider before you get any wild ideas.
2003-04-29 01:33:41 AM  
step 1) Collect Countrylands
Step 2)
Step 3) Profit
2003-04-29 01:39:53 AM  
The beach is nice, but for me nothing tops a sea of corn.

I've been all along the east coast, and the only beaches that weren't trashed with tourists and resort traps were in Maine! You ignorant bastards. What do you think 85% of the country is? Don't knock us farmers. There are dozens of millionaire farmers in my county alone, but for a simple love of the earth's purity - they annually reinvest it into a giant fleet of steel machinery. Why do you think this country is so rich? Because we're almost entirely self-sufficient (well, we WERE until the 1970s, it seems).

Whatever. I'm getting paid a nice lump of money to get my Ph.D. here in North Dakota, and a little money goes a looooooooong way around here (honestly, what the heck do you think YOU do in Miami - stay in the air conditioning and play playstation? why not do that here?).

And I have never, ever heard of anyone or any student playing around in a field of corn for fun. Seriously, now.

So all you mainland bashers - have fun when the ice caps melt. No sleeping in my backyard.
2003-04-29 01:41:42 AM  
Stubblyhead: I just relocated myself, but as long as you're not looking for a job at SAS, I might be able to help you.

Let me know.
2003-04-29 01:49:41 AM  
Microwavable: You're getting paid to get your PhD in ND?!? In which field?

You can enjoy your landscape, but others have it better. Hell, I'd much rather be in San Diego as I write this, but I know that NC is much better than the Dakotas when it come to quality of life. With a decent standard of living per income.

PS: If you see the band Indigenous ;), please tell'em that they're loved nationwide, and if the want a free place to stay at the Outer Banks NC next year, let me know.
2003-04-29 01:50:34 AM  
Albinoman: As a lifelong Minnesotan, I can assure you that the speed limit on controlled access highways is 65 MPH. The only time you'll find 55 MPH highways is if they are uncontrolled (i.e. have intersections) or if they are controlled, but in a city center (such as Rochester, where I live.) I guarantee you that TH52, while 55 in Roch, is 65 the rest of the way to Minneapolis. We're 70MPH on the interstate too.

If you want suckage, try going to Iowa, where residential speed limit is 20MPH.
2003-04-29 01:51:58 AM  
2003-04-29 01:52:39 AM  
I meant to close that tag, really.
2003-04-29 02:14:53 AM  
Not sure what everyone has against North Dakota. Come up here and spend some time. If you don't like it fine, but anyone who hasn't been to a place shouldn't talk bad about it. If you have been here and still don't like it, you must have bad luck.

As for the tuition thing, as the last paragraph of the story states, we voted on this at the state level last November. I voted against it, and it was pretty soundly defeated. I think people realize that a few hundred dollars a year toward your tuition won't change anything, and that salaries and things like that need to improve for anything to change.
2003-04-29 02:27:55 AM  
Huis_clos: I lived in Iowa for a while, and now I live in San Francisco. I have to say, in all seriousness, Iowa r0x0rz.
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