All right subby... I'll bite: What could possibly go wrong?

MorseCodeNowInHiDef: All right subby... I'll bite: What could possibly go wrong?

Not subby, but I'm thinking one could consider oxygen a substance or vapor that can be inhaled and exhaled.

Sounds like this would also cover inhalers for OCPD & Asthma, but fark those people, they're sick anyhow.

TheOnion: MorseCodeNowInHiDef: All right subby... I'll bite: What could possibly go wrong?

This would cover breathing air.

True, but would you really want to breathe the air in New Jersey?

Srnk. No breathing indoors, now, it's bad for your health.

blackheart666: So if breathing is illegal in New Jersey, then we there won't be able to smell the any guidos...

Win!

FTFY

Well, New Jersey, you can't ban ether, because ether is the substance that pervades the whole universe. Therefore I will continue to inhale ether(*).

From what I've heard of NJ, I think this is a great idea.

geoelectric
For once, pass a damned law based on rational facts, would you?
They can't do that -- they have voters to placate with pointless acts like this! Think of the dollars! Er, I mean, children.

geoelectric: For once, pass a damned law based on rational facts, would you?

As all laws are based on the irrational assumption that "We can control your will", this will never happen.

geoelectric: FTFA:

Sen. Vitale said that the battery heats the nicotine solution that also contains diethylene glycol and delivers the solution to a user when he inhales it. Scientists acknowledge that propylene and diethylene glycol, which are components of antifreeze liquid, form the vapor that a user exhales to produce a mist simulating tobacco smoke.

Bullshiat! Diethylene glycol is highly poisonous, and is absolutely not a standard ingredient of any vapor that wants repeat customers. Propylene glycol is often used as a base, and is a non-toxic food additive that is also used for the base of fog machines and throat sprays. Alternatively, vegetable glycerin is available for those irritated by propylene glycol.

I hate it when reactionary, inaccurate crap like this gets passed by legislatures and passed along by media. You guys banned my tobacco, so I sprung for e-cigs. Now I'm not inconveniencing anyone; it doesn't stink, doesn't have any second-, third-, or really even firsthand health issues. But it looks like a cigarette so you farks ban that too.

For once, pass a damned law based on rational facts, would you?

If everyone broke laws that were as corrupt as that, they would be rendered ineffective. I can dream, can't I? :D

aerojockey: Well, New Jersey, you can't ban ether, because ether is the substance that pervades the whole universe. Therefore I will continue to inhale ether(*).

I think you may be conflating ether and aether, there.

Oh, right, that's the joke, got it.

Oooh.
Perhaps now the people in Jersey Shore will be arrested and then be forced to suffocate.

Yes, this bill is directly targeting personal vaporizers.

A great big fark you to the FDA, as well as legislators in New York, Illinois, and New Jersey. I haven't had a cigarette since January thanks to my PV. People will be driven back to the traditional cancer sticks when these become completely outlawed.

Anyone interested in seeing what medical professionals who aren't in bed with the manufacturers of Marlboros and ineffective stop smoking aids can click here (click and pop).

The fact that people entrusted with protecting peoples' health are more interested in protecting corporations' bottom lines should sicken everybody. But heck, I guess corporations are people now, too. Can't let Pfizer suffer from a slight decrease to their bottom line... even if their pills can cause serious, long-lasting psychological disorders. But wait, they make a pill to help those bipolar ex-smokers they're creating, too.

MorseCodeNowInHiDef: All right subby... I'll bite: What could possibly go wrong?

Was that question designed to elicit the submitter, or others, to list all the things we inhale/exhale that qualify but are healthy or even necessary for life? Or was it designed to elicit the derision of anyone reading it who isn't too drunk to think right now?

Because you got a mix of both.

This legislation is totally getting up my jock in a New Jersey bar and I'm gonna punch it in its face on TV.

Hmm. I think my CPAP qualifies. Uh oh.

aerojockey: Well, New Jersey, you can't ban ether, because ether is the substance that pervades the whole universe. Therefore I will continue to inhale ether(*).

There is nothing more helpless and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge.

1-phenylpropan-2-amine: From what I've heard of NJ, I think this is a great idea.

I dig your nick, especially at 4:30 in the morning.

rackrent: Crap. Now I'll have disclose my everyday habit of breathing nitrogen.

They should pass a law requiring everyone to breathe pure oxygen.

70% nitrogen means you have an addiction, huffy

I HATE MY GOVERNMENT and its authoritarian big-brotherness. I understand people who pick up guns and start randomly shooting. It doesn't HELP to do this, but I understand the urge.

This is so stupid! I don't smoke. I'm allergic to smoke. Lots of places I can't go (usually anywhere with live music is out) but in order to go I'd have to ban other people from doing something they like to do. Why would I want to do that? I don't like sharing the road with drunks but sharing the world with smokers is possible. Let them choose what they want to put in their bodies!

My doctor puts himself at some risk to give me the meds I need to manage my chronic pain. He has to be so careful. It should be totally between him and me (and my health insurance) what treatments I get. He's kept me unaddicted to the narcotics I use for four years running. I assume he knows what he's doing and I trust him, but will he be left alone to do his work? Not if people like these have anything to say.

Electronic cigs are a brilliant idea. If enough people like them, I might be able to go hear live music again. I would love to hear Al Stewart before he goes, or Sting, or any of a dozen others.

I accidentally inhaled a little Biotene mouthwash. Send out the cops to beat me down! If they catch me while I'm still coughing, cuffing me will be half as easy!

Jim_Callahan

aerojockey: Well, New Jersey, you can't ban ether, because ether is the substance that pervades the whole universe. Therefore I will continue to inhale ether(*).

I think you may be conflating ether and aether, there.

No I didn't because only men who are ashamed of their dick size and overcompensate for it by demonstrating their knowledge of tiny trivial facts spell it æther.

log_jammin: A regulation to prohibit the usage of electronic cigarettes was unanimously adopted by six members of the NJ Senate Health Committee.

all I want to know is "why?".

Because they don't get a cut of the sales. Most people order their vaporizer supplies online. The state tries to use the "it's not FDA approved" excuse to try to ban them but the FDA has known for 50 years that cigarettes are dangerous and have they been pulled off the market yet?

It's all about money.
I use a Vapor King electronic cigarette from Vapor4Life. I couldn't be happier with it.

/NJ resident.

Catsmeow: I HATE MY GOVERNMENT and its authoritarian big-brotherness. I understand people who pick up guns and start randomly shooting. It doesn't HELP to do this, but I understand the urge.

This is so stupid! I don't smoke. I'm allergic to smoke. Lots of places I can't go (usually anywhere with live music is out) but in order to go I'd have to ban other people from doing something they like to do. Why would I want to do that? I don't like sharing the road with drunks but sharing the world with smokers is possible. Let them choose what they want to put in their bodies!

My doctor puts himself at some risk to give me the meds I need to manage my chronic pain. He has to be so careful. It should be totally between him and me (and my health insurance) what treatments I get. He's kept me unaddicted to the narcotics I use for four years running. I assume he knows what he's doing and I trust him, but will he be left alone to do his work? Not if people like these have anything to say.

Electronic cigs are a brilliant idea. If enough people like them, I might be able to go hear live music again. I would love to hear Al Stewart before he goes, or Sting, or any of a dozen others.

I accidentally inhaled a little Biotene mouthwash. Send out the cops to beat me down! If they catch me while I'm still coughing, cuffing me will be half as easy!

Put it down.

where did my /b go?

log_jammin:
what is the official justification for this? It can't just be health reasons since this just bans use in public. can't be second hand smoke since....there's no smoke.

This bill is equivalent to banning coffee.

I think I know why. Last winter, while visiting my sister, I got dragged out to their mall, where a Smoking Everywhere kiosk was set up. My sister, who is a raging anti-smoke nazi, got a disgusted look on her face and made a few snide comments.

Some people just feel a need to hate things. Many of these people feel a need to become involved in local, state, and federal legislature, or, barring that, become heads of their HOAs or write nasty letters to editors of the few newspapers left.

Forget about banning air, WTF is an e-cigarette?

God I am full of HTML fail tonight.

as if anyone REALLY needed another reason to hate NJ.

This is the state that won't let you pump your own gas, gave is the Jersey shore, and a host of other retarded things.

This is par for the course for them, I hope to see grandpa or the asthma kids getting tazed for simply trying to survive with their inhalers.

Combination ex/social smoker -- when I read crap like this it makes me want to go buy a pack and sit in a bar enjoying the fact I live in Texas.

Daroc: Forget about banning air, WTF is an e-cigarette?

A rechargeable li-ion battery, an atomizer (really just a heating element and a nickel foam wick), and a cartridge that contains fluid.

The fluid is a mix of propylene glycol (the stuff used in fog machines -- also in some asthma inhalers, health & beauty products, and food products), nicotine, and a water-based flavoring. For those with a sensitivity to propylene glycol, they are also made with vegetable glycerin, which is used in many of the aforementioned products as well.

Some early studies have shown a 79% success rate in smoking cessation when used as a replacement for cigs. The patches, gum, and lozenges have about a 7% success rate that drops substantially after one year. E-cigarettes are cheaper than these other nicotine products too.

Effectively, a smoker who changes to vaporizing trades 4000 chemicals for about 3 -- all of which are already approved, individually, by the FDA.

However, for $ome rea$on$ I can't $ort out, the FDA really doe$n't want people to $top $moking cigarette$ and wa$ting their time and ri$king their long-term health while fiddling with their approved ce$$ation product$.

gonna need more jail cells

autopsybeverage: Daroc: Forget about banning air, WTF is an e-cigarette?

A rechargeable li-ion battery, an atomizer (really just a heating element and a nickel foam wick), and a cartridge that contains fluid.

The fluid is a mix of propylene glycol (the stuff used in fog machines -- also in some asthma inhalers, health & beauty products, and food products), nicotine, and a water-based flavoring. For those with a sensitivity to propylene glycol, they are also made with vegetable glycerin, which is used in many of the aforementioned products as well.

Some early studies have shown a 79% success rate in smoking cessation when used as a replacement for cigs. The patches, gum, and lozenges have about a 7% success rate that drops substantially after one year. E-cigarettes are cheaper than these other nicotine products too.

Effectively, a smoker who changes to vaporizing trades 4000 chemicals for about 3 -- all of which are already approved, individually, by the FDA.

However, for $ome rea$on$ I can't $ort out, the FDA really doe$n't want people to $top $moking cigarette$ and wa$ting their time and ri$king their long-term health while fiddling with their approved ce$$ation product$.

Interesting. Thanks!

Having heard of e-cigs but having never seen one, I employed some Google-Fu.

It turns out that, here in Australia, they're illegal, classed as a hard drug with heavy prison sentences.

I should be surprised, but I'm not.

/Australia: England Lite.
//Anything you can ban, we can ban better.

I ordered one of the Smoke Anywhere kits online a few months ago. Haven't used it or a cigarette in over a month now. I should have listened to Lautenberg and stayed away from this evil product and kept buying my $10 a pack Marlboros.