Philip J. Fry: You can get less time in jail for punching a stranger in the face.

He punched the entire black community in the face. With his words. That's much worse.

Instead of wasting the time and money putting the kid in a JD center, I'd just force the kid to listen to Hot Hot Heat's "Bandages" for 48 hours straight. By the time its over, he'll have the 1000 yard stare for the rest of his life.

CaptainFatass: Philip J. Fry: You can get less time in jail for punching a stranger in the face.

He punched the entire black community in the face. With his words. That's much worse.

Hi there, idiot...

If I were at Walmart and somebody announced "All Jews please leave the store" I'd be offended. Of course, Jews don't go to Walmart.

We prefer Costco.

Weaver95: The boy, from Atlantic County, was charged by Gloucester County authorities with bias and intimidation and harassment in connection with the episode last Sunday. If convicted, he could face up to a year in a juvenile detention center, officials said.

And this right here is why were f*cked. As a country I mean. Sure, the kid was a jerk. And yeah, he was out of line. But a possible jail term?

All this does is drive home the point others have made - the cops are not our friends. say NOTHING to a cop. Don't give your name, don't nod, don't agree, don't shake hands...nothing. walk away from them, and if they persist, then ask for a lawyer. Say. NOTHING.

Idiot. The cops didn't write the law. The cops only ENFORCE the law, which is their JOB. It doesn't matter if the law is stupid, it is their JOB to enforce it. The company I work for has many retarded policies, but I have to enforce them because it's my JOB.

Yes, the charges against him are farking stupid. Again, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COPS. The charges will have been pressed by the District Attorney, not the cops. Turning this into an excuse for cop-hate is so much of a stretch I'm surprised you didn't pull something.

voodoowizard: Whew I feel safer already now that the kid will be off the streets for a year.

I doubt he will get the maximum and will probably wind up with a minor wrist slap.

If no action had been taken then all the 16 year old Palin Americans would have taken this to be a greenlight for similar actions and we would be swamped with copycats.

So I wonder if the two women in the earlier article who had been boycotting the store feel like fools now or are they still basking in the warm afterglow of their brief 15 seconds of fame?

/maybe they'll boycott the store for allowing non-employees to access the intercom...

ModernLuddite: The kid just hates rugby, is all.

You win 26 internets.

Attention Wal-Mart Shoppers: if you are going to use the PA system to make racial remarks, at least say something funny like "For our darker-skinned patrons, we have a 2 for 1 watermelon special in the produce section."

Sharpton in 3,2,1...

Wow. What a complete waste of time. Jail time? For a 16 year old that committed an innocuous prank.

He did something stupid and immature that hurt no one. Make him write an essay, work in a homeless shelter or something more fitting of his prank.

Do you think he'll be more or less racist after a year in juvie?

Weaver95: ArkAngel:
Not that this kid did anything right or good, but these charges are specious

I wonder if the local DA is up for re-election or something. the only way this makes sense is if someone is looking to use this incident to further their political career.

It also makes sense if someone trespassed on Wal-Mart property for the purpose of committing an act of racial harassment or intimidation.

CaptainFatass: He punched the entire black community in the face. With his words. That's much worse.

Leave the thread now.

Meh, worst that will happen to him is he'll get community service. Hopefully he'll get a black judge who will lecture the fark out of him and make him volunteer at black church or something. And write a 5000 word essay on black history.

beve: ModernLuddite: The kid just hates rugby, is all.

You win 26 internets.shiat, I really thought I was first at something.

Give him the max, and let Bubba in the next cell have a crack at him while he's in there. You know this kid's been pulling crap like this his entire sad, useless life, and as he gets older it's only going to get worse. This is the only way he'll learn not to be a dumbass.

Weaver95: 06Wahoo:
Funny how 'say nothing' is so conditional. But then again, if you really distrust them that much, how will asking for a lawyer help?

/Now I understand trolls.
//This is fun.

i'm sorry, but you misplaced a comma. that obviously invalidates your entire argument. you must now commit ritual suicide in order to regain your family honor.

/seriously dude. WTF.

Pretty simple really, you made the rather specious claim that cops are corrupt and just out to bust your innocent arse, so to "show" your shining lack of guilt your suggestion is to act like a mute retard then wail for a lawyer like a four year old demanding an icecream.

Wahoo points out that if your original assertation on the corrupt nature of cops were true, asking for a lawyer would be pointless as the cops would ignore it and just beat the confession from you anyhow.

CruJones: I thought I read on Fark this kind of stuff only happens in the south?

well to be honest, it was in south jersey. that part of the state is full of rednecks.

Lachwen: Yes, the charges against him are farking stupid.

They're not stupid. The kid commandeered Wal-Mart property to commit an act of mass racial harassment and intimidation. He deserves to be punished, and his punishment should be (relatively) severe.

He's not going to go to jail over it. But he will end up with a juvenile record, a bunch of legal fees, and probably community service doing some kind of menial work in black neighborhoods.

Lachwen: Weaver95: The boy, from Atlantic County, was charged by Gloucester County authorities with bias and intimidation and harassment in connection with the episode last Sunday. If convicted, he could face up to a year in a juvenile detention center, officials said.

And this right here is why were f*cked. As a country I mean. Sure, the kid was a jerk. And yeah, he was out of line. But a possible jail term?

All this does is drive home the point others have made - the cops are not our friends. say NOTHING to a cop. Don't give your name, don't nod, don't agree, don't shake hands...nothing. walk away from them, and if they persist, then ask for a lawyer. Say. NOTHING.

Idiot. The cops didn't write the law. The cops only ENFORCE the law, which is their JOB. It doesn't matter if the law is stupid, it is their JOB to enforce it. The company I work for has many retarded policies, but I have to enforce them because it's my JOB.

Yes, the charges against him are farking stupid. Again, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COPS. The charges will have been pressed by the District Attorney, not the cops. Turning this into an excuse for cop-hate is so much of a stretch I'm surprised you didn't pull something.

Except the problem is that the so-called "charges" that he was arrested for are borderline at best. Harassment and intimidation? Really?
And as far as "enforcing the law" goes, do you see a cop pulling over everyone that's doing 5 over the limit? No, you don't.
The better cops in this world know how to make good judgments on when someone should be punished and when they should be let go. The bad cops are the ones that go "enforcing the law" blindly.

This sort of behaviour was common when stores had open mics back in the day. Alot of times people would grab one and say " Its medication time" while buying a keg. Or "Kansas lost to N.Iowa? WTF, good joke. Daves not here man."

He said black. He didn't use a racial slur.

They should chain him down in the town square and let Al Sharpton take a big, steaming dump on his chest.

CaptainFatass: Give him the max, and let Bubba in the next cell have a crack at him while he's in there. You know this kid's been pulling crap like this his entire sad, useless life, and as he gets older it's only going to get worse. This is the only way he'll learn not to be a dumbass.

Let me see if I understand your argument. He should go to jail and be raped, whereupon he'll have an epiphany and start treating everyone nice. While your "rape epiphany" theory is intriguing, it's more likely that he'd join a white power gang to avoid getting raped, then spend the rest of his life doing gangster shiat in and out of prison?

I can understand improper usage of the intercom system, which would be no different that your neighbor stealing, using and returning your car.

But those other charges do not make sense.

WFern: Who wants to bet that he's a /b/tard?

/b/tards don't go outside.

Lachwen: Idiot. The cops didn't write the law. The cops only ENFORCE the law, which is their JOB. It doesn't matter if the law is stupid, it is their JOB to enforce it. The company I work for has many retarded policies, but I have to enforce them because it's my JOB.

Yes, the charges against him are farking stupid. Again, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COPS. The charges will have been pressed by the District Attorney, not the cops. Turning this into an excuse for cop-hate is so much of a stretch I'm surprised you didn't pull something.

Not exactly. The cops' job is to bust the object of a complaint or disturbance, and then find a charge to stick him with afterwards. So they'll charge him with a laundry list of vaguely relevant charges; loose pants becomes indecent exposure, talking becomes terrorizing, etc. The district attorney's job is to find the one charge that might actually stick, and discard the rest.

What a juvenile crime might look like.

Stickdeath: I'd wager $500 that the 16 year old sounded like a complete idiot while making the announcement and didn't sound like any employee of the store. Everyone probably shrugged their shoulders because of his idiocy except one "justice crusader" that was outraged because he felt that others might be outraged.

I wonder who made the biggest stink when this came across the PA?

When I worked in a substance abuse place we often had incidents that involved racial slurs. Two black guys fighting, dropping the N word back and forth. Who always got upset? Our white bread social worker. Once time she left CRYING because they kept saying the N word. If she happened to be in this walmart she'd be suing right now.

That ignorant, distasteful statement is protected by the First Amendment. How many times a week does someone on here say the same thing about illegal immigrants? And then a Native American will reply that all the rest of us need to leave, because we're all illegal immigrants?

If any of you out there are happy about the charges, you are not paying attention. If you come down on this kid-you're next.

The only crime was unauthorized use of the intercom-maybe a petty trespass offense.

thenateman: CaptainFatass: Give him the max, and let Bubba in the next cell have a crack at him while he's in there. You know this kid's been pulling crap like this his entire sad, useless life, and as he gets older it's only going to get worse. This is the only way he'll learn not to be a dumbass.

Let me see if I understand your argument. He should go to jail and be raped, whereupon he'll have an epiphany and start treating everyone nice. While your "rape epiphany" theory is intriguing, it's more likely that he'd join a white power gang to avoid getting raped, then spend the rest of his life doing gangster shiat in and out of prison?

He'll still be raped, by the white power gang, given how young he is. Even if he joins it, particularly after he joins it.

No matter what, jail will fark him up more than he might be now.

Darth Cheney: WFern: Who wants to bet that he's a /b/tard?

/b/tards don't go outside.

apparently they migrate to FARK.
/never has been the same.

captain_heroic44: The kid commandeered Wal-Mart property to commit an act of mass racial harassment and intimidation. He deserves to be punished, and his punishment should be (relatively) severe.

Then punish him for trespassing, and don't trump up the charges out of some bullshiat feeling of unprecedented outrage. He cannot be constitutionally punished for speaking mere words that don't constitute a true threat or incitement to imminent lawless action.

He was arrested? What the fark,.

Lachwen: Weaver95: The boy, from Atlantic County, was charged by Gloucester County authorities with bias and intimidation and harassment in connection with the episode last Sunday. If convicted, he could face up to a year in a juvenile detention center, officials said.

And this right here is why were f*cked. As a country I mean. Sure, the kid was a jerk. And yeah, he was out of line. But a possible jail term?

All this does is drive home the point others have made - the cops are not our friends. say NOTHING to a cop. Don't give your name, don't nod, don't agree, don't shake hands...nothing. walk away from them, and if they persist, then ask for a lawyer. Say. NOTHING.

Idiot. The cops didn't write the law. The cops only ENFORCE the law, which is their JOB. It doesn't matter if the law is stupid, it is their JOB to enforce it. The company I work for has many retarded policies, but I have to enforce them because it's my JOB.

Yes, the charges against him are farking stupid. Again, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COPS. The charges will have been pressed by the District Attorney, not the cops. Turning this into an excuse for cop-hate is so much of a stretch I'm surprised you didn't pull something.

In Weaver's defense, that sounds like a "we were just following orders" argument. I think it's not so much cop hate, so much as cop indifference. If the police don't care about the populace so far as only enforcing the law, then they shouldn't expect anything other than that same business-only like attitude from people.

So in short: yes, the police are NOT your friends.

ModernLuddite: The kid just hates rugby, is all.

You do know that only one country has that nickname for their national team not all 6 countries that play the sport.

captain_heroic44
They're not stupid. The kid commandeered Wal-Mart property to commit an act of mass racial harassment and intimidation. He deserves to be punished, and his punishment should be (relatively) severe.

I see you're going full retard on this. Remember, you'll never win an Oscar going full retard.

1. First Amendment protects this kid REGARDLESS of the bullshiat "bias" and "harassment" claims the cops are tossing around. Notice they had to wait several hours from arrest to announcement because they had to scour the law books to find what law the kid broke... which in actuality was "none".

2. If the ACLU actually had balls, they'd already be on this kid's side, fighting for his right to said 1st Amendment.

3. The kid is a bigoted idiot... that's not illegal in this country... thanks to, oh you guessed it, the 1st Amendment. If being a bigoted idiot was illegal, the Klan would be arrested every time they showed up. As a matter of fact, the Klan holding up signs denigrating blacks, hispanics, catholics, etc. could also be construed as "bias" crimes... yet they have never been prosecuted for it because of... oh, you better believe it, the 1st Amendment.

4. This is not akin to yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre, which inevitably some asshat is going to compare this to. It didn't induce panic, it was immediately addressed by a real employee, and quite frankly, nobody left the store.

Finally, 5. The punishment this kid should receive is not a year in Juvy... the authorities should print up a t-shirt that says: "I made the racist announcement at Wal-Mart", printed on the front and back... then drop him off in Camden, NJ with no money for bus fare.

Offend someone, get arrested.
Welcome to the new America (born 2001)

love how those outraged over this preach he should undergo physical harm as punishment.

physician, heal thyself.

And worse than Hitler? Failed HS history, didn't ya.

tards

All whites, leave fark now.

What if it turns out the kid was black?

Stickdeath: I'd wager $500 that the 16 year old sounded like a complete idiot while making the announcement and didn't sound like any employee of the store. Everyone probably shrugged their shoulders because of his idiocy except one "justice crusader" that was outraged because he felt that others might be outraged.

16 year old kids work at Wal-mart.

/facepalm

rebelyell2006: But those other charges do not make sense.

N.J. statute makes "harassment" a "petty disorderly offense." A person commits "harasssment" when he, "with a purpose to harass another... [m]akes... a communication or communications anonymously... [in] any manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm."

Link (new window)

The boy here commandeered the P.A. system and made a communication:

1) Anonymously
2) With a purpose to harass, and
3) In a manner likely to cause annoyance.

His conduct clearly meets the New Jersey definition of "harassment."