So lets get this straight. Instead of growing up in a society where he would have to work 40 plus hours a week just to live in a crappy dwelling, paying overpriced bills, and possibly receive no health care benefits. He rapes a woman and gets free housing and medical benefits with never having to work a day in his life. Well golly, I feel sorry for him.

Deadhouseplants: So lets get this straight. Instead of growing up in a society where he would have to work 40 plus hours a week just to live in a crappy dwelling, paying overpriced bills, and possibly receive no health care benefits. He rapes a woman and gets free housing and medical benefits with never having to work a day in his life. Well golly, I feel sorry for him.

You can't possibly for real.

Well if he's old enough and mature enough to fully evaluate the consequences of his actions in a meaningful way such that the courts have determined him to be an adult, then he's old enough and mature enough to drink, vote, and smoke.

If we can draw a giant bright arbitrary line over who can and cannot have all the rights and privileges reserved for "adults" then we should abide by that same line when determining issues of justice as well.

vernonFL: Not to defend what he may have done, but why do we have different criminal justice systems for juveniles and adults?

A 15 year old is NOT an adult. Period.

I disagree. When you are 15 you know right from wrong. 15 is an age of responsibility. When you are 15 you are given the priviledge of learning to drive a car, hell some in some states that is the age of consent.

Grown up crimes deserve grown up sentences.

NikolaiFarkoff: GAT_00: I think it's bullshiat that we try kids under 18 as adults.

I don't totally disagree with it, but I don't like the selective application of it.

You don't see statutory rape cases going "Well, she's 15 but she's pretty hot and could pass for 20, so....no harm, no foul!"

That reminds me of a Divid Cross bit: Kids are growing up so fast these days... and that's why the legal age of consent should be lowered to fifteen. Some sixteen year-old kid with zits all over his face who pops after twenty seconds gets to fark them, but I 'm a grown man with skills. That 's selfish!

Hollywood Cole: vernonFL: Not to defend what he may have done, but why do we have different criminal justice systems for juveniles and adults?

A 15 year old is NOT an adult. Period.

I disagree. When you are 15 you know right from wrong. 15 is an age of responsibility. When you are 15 you are given the priviledge of learning to drive a car, hell some in some states that is the age of consent.

Grown up crimes deserve grown up sentences.


My bad I meant 16 on the age of consent part.

He raped an autistic woman?

Great, now Jenny McCarthy is gonna go all wharrgarbl over how his "prick" caused her autism.

vernonFL: Hollywood Cole: Grown up crimes deserve grown up sentences.

Why have juvenile justice at all then? Why does the law seperate adult crimes from childrens crimes, if we're only going to ignore those distinctions when we feel like it?

Also note that in this case, a psychologist recommended against trying this 15 year old as an adult.

There are separate courts because there is a small possiblity that a very young criminal might have a chance to be rehabilitated and may actually become a productive member.

I think we can agree that there are serious crimes and then there are "crimes" like having an ounce of weed. Rape is a very serious crime that takes a lot of therapy and rehab for a rapist to be rehabilitated (if that is even possible). I think he was tried as an adult because the judge felt that there was no chance that he would get treatment, even if he did go to juvie for 5 years, once he turned 21 he would be sent to regular jail for the remainder of his sentence.

FTA: "There is a risk to our public safety and the lack of prior family involvement in any prior treatment means that there is nothing to assure me that he would be kept home safe while he was getting treatment," the judge added. "The juvenile system would have him only for another five years. I'm doubtful [treatment] could be accomplished."

The judge spoke of an incident that the Fontenet youth admitted during his interview for the psychological evaluation. She said he admitted to attempting to rape a female just about a year prior to the January assault.

She said that he admitted "he was in the mood to have sex and she happened to be there."

with a first name like that, he will never get laid

He was black?

Whodathunk

This isn't a kiddie crime. He didn't accidentally kill someone or damage property. He did an adult act and should be treated as an adult.

'He's only 15' is no excuse for the kind of things he did to that poor young woman. Especially if there's a psych eval which states he had tried to rape someone before.

Deadhouseplants: So lets get this straight. Instead of growing up in a society where he would have to work 40 plus hours a week just to live in a crappy dwelling, paying overpriced bills, and possibly receive no health care benefits. He rapes a woman and gets free housing and medical benefits with never having to work a day in his life. Well golly, I feel sorry for him.

Drakin020: He was black?

Whodathunk

And his victim was white.

vernonFL: Why does the law seperate adult crimes from childrens crimes, if we're only going to ignore those distinctions when we feel like it?


Why can't it separate some crimes without separating all crimes all the time?

Kid learns the hard way that if you're old enough to rape an autistic woman on a street corner in broad daylight black you're old enough for grown up PMITA prison.

/no, I'm not serious

Fark this kid. If it was theft or simple assault or mail fraud or whatever, sure, try him as a minor. But this is rape, and from all other accounts he is a monster.

If it were up to me, he would be put to death. But as it is obviously not, enjoy life in and out of prison.

I think the age issue would help if it were crime based.

Like, stealing... Try as a kid under the write of boys will be boys.
Trespassing
and a whole list of non-violent crimes.

As for Rape, murder, aggravated battery, etc. These are violent crimes which should have a much lower age limit. Like, you probably can't blame a 5 or 6 year old for stabbing their friend acting out something their asshat parent let them see on TV, but a 13 year old sure as shiat should know better. I'm not entirely against a reduced sentence for the under 18s who commit heinous crimes, but that would be a case by case basis, they certainly should be tried. I know murder and rape were wrong well before turning 13, so when a 15yo does it, he does need to pay the consequences.

brap: I think they repeat it from Rush Limbaugh or something.


It doesn't help any that when a sheriff tries to make prison suck the media wail and gnash their teeth about rights and treating murderers and rapists with all the respect you'd give to your grandma...

toddalmighty: The kid's first name is Anferney.

I'll just let that soak in for a bit.

I stopped reading after that. He was doomed from the beginning.

I didn't see anything in TFA about the victim being autistic. Just bi-polar/Assburgers and living in a group home. Is that really enough to justify living in a group home?

vernonFL: A 15 year old is NOT an adult. Period.

Saying "period" after your opinion does not make it so, any more than mentioning any other part of the punctuational family. Semicolon.

brap: GAT_00: This, kiddies, is how to troll. 10/10

I've actually heard people express that worldview in all earnestness, and think that prison is some sort of dream holiday. I once heard a woman go off for half an hour because she heard prisoners had access to cable television, as if that was all it took to make incarceration Shangra-La.

I think they repeat it from Rush Limbaugh or something.

Although I agree with you that freedom certainly beats prison, why should my taxes pay for someone who chose to break the law to have cable TV? They don't deserve it anymore than someone who can't afford it.

/don't have tv anyway
//by choice

FTA: "Diagnosed with an impulse-control disorder."

Back in my day, we just called that DUMB AS SHIAT.

Hey lady, want to go for a spin?

How could an autistic person say no?

/Round and round I go to hell.

Dr.Knockboots: I'm sure that his time in prison will get him the proper counseling he needs.. and the environment will foster a positive place for him to better himself.
Then, when he gets out of prison, he'll get a job and become a contributing member of society, like most every ex-con before him.

I hear there's a guy in England that would rather hire him than an ex-military guy.

I wonder if the inmates have a system to see who gets to deflower this fine upstanding youth? My thinking is, it sould be someone on the larger size to loosen him up for the others.

I am Ahab: I didn't see anything in TFA about the victim being autistic. Just bi-polar/Assburgers and living in a group home. Is that really enough to justify living in a group home?

Aspies are autistic... and boy, do they hate it when you mention that to them, lol.

ferretman: Though they do not describe the crime....it sounds like he raped, raped, raped the victim.

You said rape thrice.

Magnanimous_J: Fark this kid. If it was theft or simple assault or mail fraud or whatever, sure, try him as a minor. But this is rape, and from all other accounts he is a monster.

If it were up to me, he would be put to death. But as it is obviously not, enjoy life in and out of prison.

Considering this is also his second attempt to rape someone. And considering the abysmally low "rehab" numbers that rapists come out with. I agree.

/can't wait for him to get out and go rape another person.
//you know he will.

PizzaJedi81: ferretman: Though they do not describe the crime....it sounds like he raped, raped, raped the victim.

You said rape thrice.

Scholarly interest in rape?

Fooshards: I am Ahab: I didn't see anything in TFA about the victim being autistic. Just bi-polar/Assburgers and living in a group home. Is that really enough to justify living in a group home?

Aspies are autistic... and boy, do they hate it when you mention that to them, lol.

Ah, autism lite. I see.

Otherwise Just Fine:

"Treatment"

Yes, that's what we'll call it.




/ hot
// really? no one?

While it's sad that the victim was raped, I think it's an even worse crime that she was subjected to the barbaric practice of getting an immunization shot.

Immunization shots are a sham, concocted by pseudo-scientists who need to find a way to legitimize their existence. So they invent scary diseases and offer young children the "cure", which ends up damaging their fragile brains instead of helping them. Rape is serious, but immunizations are far more serious than rape because rape victims eventually forget about what happened to them, but autistic kids become autistic adults who are a drain on society and can't ever think like a normal person.

Hollywood Cole: vernonFL: Not to defend what he may have done, but why do we have different criminal justice systems for juveniles and adults?

A 15 year old is NOT an adult. Period.

I disagree. When you are 15 you know right from wrong. 15 is an age of responsibility. When you are 15 you are given the priviledge of learning to drive a car, hell some in some states that is the age of consent.

Grown up crimes deserve grown up sentences.

Then give the git a pack of smokes, a gun, some liquor, and a voter registration card and we'll talk