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(My Fox DC) Dumbass If you beat the murder charges, but you did actually commit the murder, the first thing you do shouldn't be to write a taunting letter to prosecutors detailing the crime. Unless you want that to also be the last thing you do   (myfoxdc.com) divider line 133
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2010-03-18 08:27:24 AM
This guy has a worse understanding of double jeopardy than Sean Connery.
 
2010-03-18 08:33:26 AM
As any ex-football player can tell you. You write a book about how you would have done it hypothetically.
 
2010-03-18 08:53:13 AM
Later days you piece of shiat.
 
2010-03-18 09:16:14 AM
i236.photobucket.com
 
2010-03-18 09:17:52 AM
You know, I don't generally support the death penalty, but with that kind of weapons-grade stupid.......

PhiloeBedoe: This guy has a worse understanding of double jeopardy than Sean Connery.

LOL
 
2010-03-18 09:18:53 AM
It takes a special kind of stupid to do a thing like this.
 
2010-03-18 09:23:22 AM
Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?
 
2010-03-18 09:32:21 AM
Dancin_In_Anson: Later days you piece of shiat.

Indeed. It's times like this I wish we had Klingons around, because Klingons know how to conduct an execution.

Slowly. And painfully.
 
2010-03-18 09:56:30 AM
Mind you, it's a much safer idea if you are found innocent by a jury, rather than if the case gets thrown out by the judge (either trial or appeal). As IAmNotALawyer understand, this is because matters decided by a judge may be retried, but constitutionally (Sixth Amendment) matters of fact tried before a jury can't.

Of course, even if you hear that "not guilty", and even if your lawyer tells you "yeah, even if you admitted it now they couldn't charge you with anything"... it's still dumb, especially in the South. Because if you dare to admit that yes, it really WAS you that raped and murdered that sweet young girl back in 1990, you may find out that a court of law is not the only place you may face punishment. While no doubt the police will arrive at the scene of the lynch mob, there's the "possibility" it will be too late to prevent that murder being committed as retribution; and while no doubt that to discourage vigilante justice and uphold the rule of law, the prosecutor will feel obliged to file charges against anyone conclusively identified as a participant, making such identifications may be difficult-- and doubtless anyone identified will exercise their right to Trial by Jury....
 
2010-03-18 10:11:41 AM
Well. Bye.
 
2010-03-18 10:43:51 AM
xanadian: You know, I don't generally support the death penalty, but with that kind of weapons-grade stupid.......

PhiloeBedoe: This guy has a worse understanding of double jeopardy than Sean Connery.

LOL


I am against the death penalty for humans. I am cool with destroying this animal because he does not meet this criteria in my mind.
 
2010-03-18 10:51:59 AM
PhiloeBedoe: This guy has a worse understanding of double jeopardy than Sean Connery.

Sorry, you didn't present that in the form of a question.
 
2010-03-18 10:52:35 AM
I can just see the taunting comments now:
"Dear Prosecutor - What's the difference between your mother and a mallard with a cold? One's a sick duck,...

I can't remember the rest, but your mother's a whore.

p.s. I'm guilty."
 
2010-03-18 10:58:04 AM
The reason I'm against the death penalty is because there's a small but finite chance that the person didn't do anything wrong; that they were wrongly covnicted.

Doesn't apply in this case. GTFO of life, rapist scumbag.
 
2010-03-18 10:58:35 AM
abb3w: it really WAS you that raped and murdered that sweet young girl back in 1990

What you did there - I see it.
 
2010-03-18 10:58:39 AM
abb3w: Mind you, it's a much safer idea if you are found innocent by a jury, rather than if the case gets thrown out by the judge (either trial or appeal). As IAmNotALawyer understand, this is because matters decided by a judge may be retried, but constitutionally (Sixth Amendment) matters of fact tried before a jury can't.

Of course, even if you hear that "not guilty", and even if your lawyer tells you "yeah, even if you admitted it now they couldn't charge you with anything"... it's still dumb, especially in the South.


Close, but not quite. It doesn't matter whether it was a jury trial or a bench trial, it matters what the original verdict was. A verdict of "not guilty" essentially ends the trial, because double jeopardy prevents retrial even if the prosecution wanted to appeal. A verdict of "guilty" can be appealed, but the appellate courts won't turn a "guilty" verdict into a "not guilty" verdict, they'll just throw it out and force a new trial.

Also, you'd be stupid doing this anywhere, because you can still face a civil trial in a wrongful death suit after the criminal action ends.
 
2010-03-18 10:59:06 AM
The only unfortunate thing about this situation (other than what happened to his victims, obviously), is that his death will not be by trauma caused by sodomy.

Other than that, bye-bye.
 
2010-03-18 11:00:27 AM
How will he do in Final Jeopardy? Find out after the break.
 
2010-03-18 11:00:40 AM
Nice of this guy to take the fall for Glenn Beck's crime.

Yahoo Answers Citation (new window)
 
2010-03-18 11:01:18 AM
thecia.com.au
APPROVES
 
2010-03-18 11:01:49 AM
Hubris: (see Paul Warner Powell)


Paul Warner Powell: (see dumbass)
 
2010-03-18 11:02:32 AM
Nightjars: The only unfortunate thing about this situation (other than what happened to his victims, obviously), is that his death will not be by trauma caused by sodomy.

Other than that, bye-bye.


Death by Sodomy - yikes, though not a bad idea, may even be a deterent
 
2010-03-18 11:02:48 AM
Well, if he isn't shocked by this turn of events, he soon will be (hehehehe).

Yeah I know, I really should be happy over these kinds of things, but this piece of dog turd deserves to die.

And big Kudo's to VA for taking care of business in a reasonable amount of time. Here in CA, the leading cause of death for death row inmates seems to be old age. We currently have about 650 waiting their turn.
 
2010-03-18 11:04:18 AM
IonBeam2: Why is the death penalty a bad thing again?

Because it's racist, because only innocent people unjustly oppressed by society are ever executed, and because only bloodthirsty barbarian monsters approve of the death penalty.
 
2010-03-18 11:05:07 AM
thisrecording.com

/orly?
 
2010-03-18 11:06:05 AM
abb3w: Because if you dare to admit that yes, it really WAS you that raped and murdered that sweet young girl back in 1990

You mean Glenn Beck?

/yes, I went there
//went there, took pictures, bought a T-shirt, and came back home

mrshowrules: xanadian: You know, I don't generally support the death penalty, but with that kind of weapons-grade stupid.......

PhiloeBedoe: This guy has a worse understanding of double jeopardy than Sean Connery.

LOL

I am against the death penalty for humans. I am cool with destroying this animal because he does not meet this criteria in my mind.


I was kinda thinking along the same lines.
 
2010-03-18 11:07:35 AM
IonBeam2: Why is the death penalty a bad thing again?

John Coffee.
 
2010-03-18 11:07:41 AM
jack21221: The reason I'm against the death penalty is because there's a small but finite chance that the person didn't do anything wrong; that they were wrongly covnicted.


And would you rather spend 50 years in prison being routinely beaten and raped.. or just opt for the quickish death once all appeals have been settled?
 
2010-03-18 11:07:44 AM
So he wrote out the massacre with full five-part harmony and stuff like that, and wrote it down there, just like it was and everything was fine?
 
2010-03-18 11:10:52 AM
Nightjars: The only unfortunate thing about this situation (other than what happened to his victims, obviously), is that his death will not be by trauma caused by sodomy.

Other than that, bye-bye.



Traumatic Sodomy. Now THERE's a band name for ya...
 
2010-03-18 11:10:52 AM
Adjective Bird Whiskey: Well. Bye.

Literally laughing in the office right now. Now my coworker is too.
 
2010-03-18 11:11:24 AM
abb3w: Mind you, it's a much safer idea if you are found innocent by a jury, rather than if the case gets thrown out by the judge (either trial or appeal). As IAmNotALawyer understand, this is because matters decided by a judge may be retried, but constitutionally (Sixth Amendment) matters of fact tried before a jury can't.


Double jeopardy is activated if the case was tried, and a ruling entered, based on the merits of the case. If the judgment was based on a procedural technicality then the case can be retried.
 
2010-03-18 11:11:32 AM
Well I couldn't make it into the thread before the "I am against the death penalty, but in this case..." people.
 
2010-03-18 11:12:41 AM
chewielouie: APPROVES

Came here for that reference, leaves with new evidence.
 
2010-03-18 11:14:19 AM
abb3wMind you, it's a much safer idea if you are found innocent by a jury, rather than if the case gets thrown out by the judge (either trial or appeal). As IAmNotALawyer understand, this is because matters decided by a judge may be retried, but constitutionally (Sixth Amendment) matters of fact tried before a jury can't...

Without knowing much about the case, the fact that the state Supreme Court overturns a verdict doesn't mean that the case is over with. If it got all the way to the state SC it got there on a question of law, not on the facts of the case. Chances are it was going to be returned to a lower court or retried when genius here decided to run his mouth. TFA says he was convicted a second time, both convictions were probably by jury.

/also not a lawyer
//guy deserves it
 
2010-03-18 11:22:20 AM
No need for the death penalty. He'd do something stupid and kill himself anyway, like choking to death on a pretzel.
 
2010-03-18 11:23:19 AM
prisonmovies.nfshost.com

//also thought it was a good idea
 
2010-03-18 11:23:28 AM
xanadian: abb3w: Because if you dare to admit that yes, it really WAS you that raped and murdered that sweet young girl back in 1990

You mean Glenn Beck?

/yes, I went there
//went there, took pictures, bought a T-shirt, and came back home

mrshowrules: xanadian: You know, I don't generally support the death penalty, but with that kind of weapons-grade stupid.......

PhiloeBedoe: This guy has a worse understanding of double jeopardy than Sean Connery.

LOL

I am against the death penalty for humans. I am cool with destroying this animal because he does not meet this criteria in my mind.

I was kinda thinking along the same lines.


I have had this position for a while. I think people should have a trial for their crimes and be sentenced to prison accordingly. Once that is done, I believe that the Prosecution should be able to make a motion to determine if the convict actually is qualified to be considered human. A definition involving the understanding between right and wrong, capable of feeling guilt and empathy. Stuff like that. Not whether they are pricks or even how bad their crimes are, just prove that they are human beyond the physical definition.

If he is deemed human, he serves his sentence. If not, he should be destroyed the same way you destroy a pit bull who bit a child.
 
2010-03-18 11:27:05 AM
I'm generally opposed to capital punishment, but for some reason I can't muster up any sympathy for this douche.
 
2010-03-18 11:27:26 AM
No problems with this. This case is one that fits into my narrow definition of who should face the death penalty.

Murder in which the person is clearly identified (shot a guy in times square, or caught on camera) The sort of caught red-handed style of crime. Confessions are kind of iffy, and must be clear and without compulsion.

People who are too dangerous to even keep jailed. Those with a high likelyhood or past record of harming other inmates.


So here we have a guy who was found guilty. Has a record of killing one person and trying to kill another person, AND admitted to doing it with clearly no police intimidation (He was almost a free man)

No doubt or guilt in my mind.
 
2010-03-18 11:33:45 AM
Brick-House: Well, if he isn't shocked by this turn of events, he soon will be (hehehehe).

Yeah I know, I really should be happy over these kinds of things, but this piece of dog turd deserves to die.

And big Kudo's to VA for taking care of business in a reasonable amount of time. Here in CA, the leading cause of death for death row inmates seems to be old age. We currently have about 650 waiting their turn.


650 waiting and they're dying of old age? I could take care of that in one afternoon. Do you think it would it help if I came out and cleared out the queue?
 
2010-03-18 11:33:52 AM
Back in my day we tested them with the gom jabbar. You either leave that room a fully fledged human or a dead animal.

upload.wikimedia.org

/hot like the sands of Arrakis
 
2010-03-18 11:36:39 AM
GilRuiz1: IonBeam2: Why is the death penalty a bad thing again?

Because it's racist, because only innocent people unjustly oppressed by society are ever executed, and because only bloodthirsty barbarian monsters approve of the death penalty.


Not racist in this case, but I do admit it is not dealt in an equal manner.
Only innocent..... bullshiat
He's the monster, and no longer has value as a human.
 
2010-03-18 11:36:53 AM
He chose to die by electrocution rather than lethal injection.
He even managed to make one more mistake. Enjoy the barbecue, asshole.
 
2010-03-18 11:37:42 AM
but is the younger sister hot?

/feeling hot right now
//is that you satan?
 
2010-03-18 11:41:16 AM
I disagree with the death penalty... but it has its moments.
 
2010-03-18 11:46:21 AM
headstone: Nightjars: The only unfortunate thing about this situation (other than what happened to his victims, obviously), is that his death will not be by trauma caused by sodomy.

Other than that, bye-bye.


Traumatic Sodomy. Now THERE's a band name for ya...


I think they opened for Butthole Surfers...
 
2010-03-18 11:49:49 AM
spqr_ca: I'm generally opposed to capital punishment, but for some reason I can't muster up any sympathy for this douche.

I'm against the Death Penalty because it is asymmetrically applied across race and SES, capricious, and is in error far too frequently for my liking.

I am NOT against the Death Penalty because the person doesn't deserve it.

I see no way of fixing it, but I have zero sympathy for this man nor do would I grant clemency were I governor.
 
2010-03-18 11:49:55 AM
An interesting thing to know about our State's Attorney (our DA) Paul Ebert is that he's a Democrat. He's very tough, very fair, and he has (I believe) the highest death penalty conviction rate in the state. If he convicts a guy with the DP, rest assured that he is guilty and that the criminal is absolutely scum of the earth. If someone could make him immortal, he could be DA here forever. (I'm generally anti-death penalty, BTW).
 
2010-03-18 11:50:16 AM
vygramul: headstone: Nightjars: The only unfortunate thing about this situation (other than what happened to his victims, obviously), is that his death will not be by trauma caused by sodomy.

Other than that, bye-bye.


Traumatic Sodomy. Now THERE's a band name for ya...

I think they opened for Butthole Surfers...



would have been better if they had closed. think of the headline...

"Buttholse Surfers ended with Traumatic Sodomy"
 
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