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(katu.com)   Study finds that hands-free cell phones increase accident risk almost as much as driving drunk. Still no cure for cancer   (katu.com) divider line 45
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2003-04-26 08:16:45 PM
well, so does eating big macs, smacking the kids in the back seat, fondling your girlfriend, and generally acting like an ass. still no laws about that, now, are there?
 
2003-04-26 08:16:58 PM
Have to wonder about the link between hands-free cell phones and tumors.
 
2003-04-26 08:58:22 PM
Ok, so usernames are in maroon now?

I DON'T LIKE CHANGE!
 
2003-04-26 09:03:32 PM
I'm going to start MAHFCP (Mothers Against Hands Free Cell Phones)!

But I dunno how to pronounce it.
 
2003-04-26 09:04:04 PM
Quick1: That newfangled underlining impress me, though.
 
2003-04-26 09:04:42 PM
Whould you rather have them black again, Quick1?
 
2003-04-26 09:04:48 PM
Cel phones don't cause accidents, morons behind the wheel do.
 
2003-04-26 09:07:17 PM
Pleh, how is talking hands-free on a cell phone different than talking to a regular passenger?
 
2003-04-26 09:07:47 PM
OT: Is it just me, or is the new tiny font on the main page impossible to read with Mozilla? Good lord.
 
2003-04-26 09:08:18 PM
The problem is that otherwise sensible people, people who wouldn't dream of eating fast food or putting on makeup while driving, "will" talk on a cell phone while driving.

And with everyone having a cell-phone these days, people should be aware of the danger. I think laws preventing cell-phones use while driving are right on the money (eating big-macs and putting on makeup should be equally penalized).

This is just he latest in a number of studies proving the danger of cell-phoning while driving. It's hard to convince many people that talking hands-free is just as risk-prone as holding a phone to your head, but the evidence is incontrovertible.
 
2003-04-26 09:08:32 PM
Researchers suspect that talking to a passenger in the car is not as much of a distraction as a cell phone can be to the driver.

How is talking to a real live person in the seat next to you any different than a hands-free cell phone? I don't get it.
 
2003-04-26 09:10:57 PM
RandomRandom

The problem is that otherwise sensible people, people who wouldn't dream of eating fast food or putting on makeup while driving, "will" talk on a cell phone while driving.

I munch fries and slurp down a drink while driving at least once a week. Eating a burger is a little harder but I can do that sometimes too. But I don't use a cellphone in the car. Huh.
 
2003-04-26 09:12:04 PM
Based on what I've seen, cell users are worse than your typical drunk. Geez.
 
2003-04-26 09:12:44 PM
How is talking to a real live person in the seat next to you any different than a hands-free cell phone? I don't get it.

It's a different focus. Also a passenger is sharing the environmental experience.
 
2003-04-26 09:14:31 PM
Still no cure for cancer...and one more cause for cancer...

Humans 0

Cancer eleventybillion
 
2003-04-26 09:14:37 PM
OT: Is it just me, or is the new tiny font on the main page impossible to read with Mozilla? Good lord.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Also, 40 students and three accidents... couldn't that just happen through the law of probability?
 
2003-04-26 09:21:10 PM
OMG! Drew discovers CSS! Oh, and BTW, not all of use use serif fonts.
 
2003-04-26 09:21:14 PM
I just clip my Sanyo 4900 on the sunshade and use the speakerphone. If I am driving and the traffic changes to where a conversation would be a dangerous distraction, I either end the call or ask the caller to wait until I am past the problem. My wife knows when I start answering questions with one word or less, it's time to hang up.
 
2003-04-26 09:25:46 PM
Wydok
MAHFCP could be pronounced MAH-FuC-uP
As in "Sorry I didn't see you, it was my f**k up."
But it'll never happen
 
2003-04-26 09:25:59 PM
So does this mean states will begin arresting and punishing drivers for in-auto cell phone use by fining them $500-$2,000, sentencing them to up to 1 year in jail, imposing a mandatory 90-day license suspension, and requiring them to attend a Driving Safety school?

Also, will insurance rates triple? Will the conviction stay on their record permanently... automatically eliminating them from certain jobs, and potentially eliminating them from any job?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2003-04-26 09:27:06 PM
Maybe people sitting next to you react better to traffic conditions and know when not to distract you? And there is less pressure to talk constantly in person than on the phone.

This is old news. The first widely reported study, about five years ago now, said that hands free phones weren't any better.

Some cell phone vendors are signing on to the "mandate hands-free models" bandwagon so they can (1) prevent a total ban, (2) make more money by selling new hardware.
 
2003-04-26 09:27:09 PM
Beh. 3/40 is not a representative sample.
 
2003-04-26 09:27:32 PM
Eating Big Macs and/or putting on makeup while driving can be subject to penalization: driving while distracted. You CAN get a ticket.

Busting people for driving while on the cell phone is about as possible to enforce as music-file sharing, which is to say, it's not.
 
2003-04-26 09:27:39 PM
the tiny fonts have caused me to have an accident...I better start investing in Depends undergarments...or maybe one of those cool car-potties, you know that you strap to your leg so you can piss whenever you want to.

man, that would be the life...

btw, is it supposed to feel like burning and razor blades when you urinate?

just asking..for a friend of mine...you know...
 
2003-04-26 09:29:16 PM
Ooops, almost forgot the best one. Will their vehicles be siezed and sold at auction as govt. property?
 
2003-04-26 09:32:02 PM
Fark: in new easier to read format!

Fellow farkers, ask and you shall receive.
 
2003-04-26 09:40:53 PM
Hey, MADD...why don't you go after the real killers?

Oh, that's right...there's no money in it.
 
2003-04-26 09:43:04 PM
It starts out with "According to the federal government..."

Remember, these are the same geniuses who can't balance a budget.
 
2003-04-26 10:06:45 PM
How would the Univeristy of Utah know anything about drunk driving? I thought Mormons can't drink.

Jesus will be pissed.
 
2003-04-26 10:13:33 PM
Mutt
How would the Univeristy of Utah know anything about drunk driving? I thought Mormons can't drink.

Jesus will be pissed


Best. Reply. In a while.
 
2003-04-26 10:15:07 PM
Fonts now look fine in IE, but the links on the side look little in Opera. But only on the main page. *boggle*
 
2003-04-26 10:20:17 PM
How is talking to a real live person in the seat next to you any different than a hands-free cell phone? I don't get it.

Cell phone toting SUV driving moron: "So I said to Sheila, you look fabulous in that dress. And she says to me..."

Passenger: "LOOK OUT! DEAR GOD, IT'S COMING RIGHT TOWARD US!"


This situation couldn't happen if the conversation was happening on a cell phone.
 
2003-04-26 10:25:03 PM
Studies have shown that smoking is the leading cause of statistics.
 
2003-04-26 10:29:24 PM
You know what'd be nice? An aimable cell phone jammer.

Cell phone driver talking, I zap them, they quit and start paying attention to the road. It's a life saver.
 
2003-04-26 10:36:29 PM
SquirrelWithLargeNuts - You could hook up an EMP device in your trunk...

The solution is obviously to buy a blowup doll, and stick your cell phone in 'er, and hook up speakers to her mouth. Then, when someone calls, it'd be like talking to a passenger. Also, it allows you to use the carpool lane.
 
2003-04-26 10:40:08 PM
Tourney3p0, damn it, you made you choke on my toast!

:)
 
2003-04-26 10:48:02 PM
Driving while adjusting the font size to make Fark legible is dangerous to your health.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2003-04-26 10:51:25 PM
Squirrel: You know what'd be nice? An aimable cell phone jammer.

All the cell phone drivers around you will get confused and stop concentrating on the road while they look at their phone to see what happened, or get upset at being cut off from their stockbroker, and crash. No great loss, unless they hit you.

Oh, you said aimable jammer. So just one car drives off the road. That's better. But meanwhile you're driving with one hand while aiming the jammer...

I'm with Mrspiffy -- EMP. Nuke the road from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
 
2003-04-26 11:02:26 PM
Next piece of required car safety equipment: Muzzles.
 
2003-04-26 11:33:08 PM
well, this is stupid.

Just a while back I saw on 20/20 or some tv magazine that driving with a cellphone was like driving drunk. Now driving hands-free is like driving drunk. I can only logically deduce that talking with your passenger is just as drunk-like. Where's the idiocy end? Why can't you farks be the slightest bit more capable of doing more than one thing at once? You really ruin it for the rest of us. :-P
 
2003-04-27 12:09:45 AM
Someone else talking to you in the car can more easily be tuned out.. also it's fairly natural thing, and you can talk to someone while carrying out a range of other tasks no effort, but you may notice it requires a little brainpower to do the same successfully while on the phone. Detachment from reality..

I rarely use the phone while moving, but have pulled some shamefully spectacular braking manoeuvers in the past in order to answer a ringing one. The people who call me rarely think to leave it ring a long time, and I'm often out of credit on the voucher payment scheme to call back..

However, after attempting to eat a big mac (snacking lunch on the speedy move) whilst driving, that was FAR more distracting than a phone.

A closely-fought table of bad things to do whilst driving might look like:

1. Be very drunk
2. Try to eat fragile food
3. Talk on phone
4. Be mildly drunk/badly hungover
5. Try to operate stereo

even my face level stereo can turn out to be dangerously distracting, and you only realise after a close call that you were paying too much attention to the fader control..
 
2003-04-27 12:12:49 AM
oh yeah, and the passenger can interact more with you and the environment. shout warnings, shut the hell up if they notice something which might require your full attention for a couple of secs (the silence being a cue in itself), or momentarily silencable by a quick wave of the hand... and so on.

if they're not a total tit of course, in which case you should dump their ass out and let them hitch home.
 
2003-04-27 12:54:19 AM
Most people need to keep their eyes on the road and use that brain power of theirs to keep their car from hitting others.

When I drive, it is the only thing I'm doing.
 
2003-04-27 02:09:41 PM
When I'm driving, I either have my cell phone off, or I ignore it when it rings. This is what voicemail is for, people...
 
2003-04-27 03:01:33 PM
1. OK, using a cell phone while driving is as dangerous as driving drunk. I rarely use the cell phone, in the car or anywhere else, more than 2 min at a time. Who drives drunk for 2 min then sobers up?

2. As stated above, the cell phone is a distraction. So is eating, drinking coffee (especially McDonalds 250 deg stuff), putting on makeup, reading, making out with your passenger, and looking at your passenger while talking. Why not make one law requiring both hands on the wheel except to shift gears, adjust heat/AC/radio, etc.? Why pick on cell phone users only?
 
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