Smoking is banned in bars in Maryland. I want to open a bar where you are required to smoke a cigarette (on the street, where it's legal) before gaining entry.

Gecko Gingrich: Smoking is banned in bars in Maryland. I want to open a bar where you are required to smoke a cigarette (on the street, where it's legal (for now)) before gaining entry.

FTFY

Gecko Gingrich: Smoking is banned in bars in Maryland. I want to open a bar where you are required to smoke a cigarette (on the street, where it's legal) before gaining entry.

What would the point of that be? To make sure that everybody in your bar had equally bad breath?

Certainly not smoking in a bar in California, eh? 'Cos you can't! No smoking, and soon no drinking and no talking.

/eddie rules

Bob Falfa: What would the point of that be? To make sure that everybody in your bar had equally bad breath?

Because fark anti-smokers who want to ban behavior on private property, that's why.

Gecko Gingrich: Bob Falfa: What would the point of that be? To make sure that everybody in your bar had equally bad breath?

Because fark anti-smokers who want to ban behavior on private property, that's why.

What's your view on sex with animals?

dahmers love zombie: Certainly not smoking in a bar in California, eh? 'Cos you can't! No smoking, and soon no drinking and no talking.

/eddie rules


The smoking ban in Washington is worse....you can't even light up in a smoke shop or cigar bar. In fact, there are no more cigar bars.

/Fark you, Washington voters.
//Fark you very much.
///At least California didn't go full retard in that regard.

The_Sponge: dahmers love zombie: Certainly not smoking in a bar in California, eh? 'Cos you can't! No smoking, and soon no drinking and no talking.

/eddie rules


The smoking ban in Washington is worse....you can't even light up in a smoke shop or cigar bar. In fact, there are no more cigar bars.

/Fark you, Washington voters.
//Fark you very much.
///At least California didn't go full retard in that regard.

NYC is worse. They first told everyone that they could build separate smoking sections, provided they had independent ventilation, and staff was not required to go in them during the normal course of business. Once a bunch of bars spent a pile of money to build them, the state came in and passed a law that trumped it.

Now the new thing is the city is recruiting people who are younger and, well, I guess cooler looking, to get into the smoke easys that have popped up all over, because their inspectors weren't getting in the door.

Michigan's law goes into effect in May, and apparently you can't even smoke outside on a patio if drinks are served there. Oh, and private clubs aren't exempt. Nice.

The owner of the coffeeshop I'm at just asked me a few hours ago if I knew of any way to get around it... pretty much everyone who comes in here smokes cigarettes or hookah. He said he'd stop serving food or make it a membership only place or whatever it took. He's probably going to go out of business, though. Sad.

calm like a bomb: And smokers who are pissed about their "rights"? fark 'em. Or alternatively, feel free to smoke while sitting on the next stool if you don't mind me repeatedly punching you in the neck- that way everybody's health gets unwillingly affected.

And you couldn't find a single damn bar to patronize that didn't have smoking before the ban, eh?

NuclearWinter: calm like a bomb: The ban kicked in around here (North Carolina) in January. The upshot has been I've been going to bars a lot more, as have a lot of other non-smokers who couldn't stand the smoke. There have been a few who openly flout the law, but they'll come around when they realize they are losing business. Lots more non-smokers, after all, and they don't die as soon.

And smokers who are pissed about their "rights"? fark 'em. Or alternatively, feel free to smoke while sitting on the next stool if you don't mind me repeatedly punching you in the neck- that way everybody's health gets unwillingly affected.

I feel bad for the places that were specifically FOR smoking. You'd think that those places would be okay, but noooooo.

Seriously. Want to open a hookah bar? Nope. Hell, did you build an outdoor patio so people could smoke and the inside remain smoke free? Nope, unless you ban people from carrying their drinks outside.

Lovely.

NuclearWinter: FTFA: McVay wrote that while Suwalski's tobacco store was a place of employment of the type exempted by the ordinance, "There are no means of containing the smoke to the Cigarette Outlet and preventing it from causing the patrons and employees of Hot Pockets from breathing smoke filled air."

Install a huge effing exhaust fan over the 10'x10' area. Or just call the whole place a tobacco shop that just happens to have pool tables available for customers to use while there. Might need to make the sports bar into a small section that is smoke-free... what's the ruling on whether you can drink in a tobacco shop?

Another funny story. There was a tobbaco shop in my town that also happened to sell higher end liquor. So you could go have a nice cigar and a good drink.

Well the law said to be a tobacco shop, X% of your revenue had to come soley from tobacco products. The place got swamped once the smoking ban passed, as it was the only place around you could have a drink and smoke still. Since most people just wanted to be able to light up a few cigs, and didn't really care for higher end cigars, the guy started pulling in a disproportionate amount of money from liquor sales. He then made a rule that you had to buy a cigar or whatever in order to buy a drink, and was still way over. In the end he ended up having to sell his liquor license to be able to stay a cigar shop.

tlchwi02: wahhhhh, the majority of my neighbors voted to not allow my annoying and harmful personal habit in a public location! a democratic process has worked against me! wahhhhhh!


If that's the case, then I never want to hear you biatch and moan about Prop 8 in California.

Waiting impatiently for my electric cigarette and wondering if any farkers have reviews of them. I ordered the Blu.

Salmon: I don't thing I would drink at a place called Hot Pockets.

In fact, I'd be a little grossed out to touch any door handles, pool cues, etc.

Is it in Alabama?

Panty Sniffer: Same in Illinois. In fact, Chicago took it a step further banning it in public parks. Public golf course? Can't smoke. In the middle of a park with nobody around you smoking the place up with your charcoal grill? Can't smoke.


Ugh...I heard about that. There's something wrong when you can't enjoy a cigar at Ditka's Restaurant.

Side story:

A couple of years ago, some friends and I were smoking cigar in a park. (After stopping by a local smoke shop.) We made sure we were far away from everyone, and yet.....

This fat kid who is walking with his dad yells "I have three words for you....NO....STANK....YOU!" Unfortunately, that dad didn't make him apologize, and some day, that kid is going to say that to the wrong people, and get his ass kicked.