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2010-03-16 04:20:57 PM
So the Australians royally fark over the Aboriginal people but dammit, nobody can make fun of them. I think they'd be more than happy to be mocked and satirized if you gave their country back to them.

And I thought Australia was cool.
 
2010-03-16 04:21:01 PM
TsukasaK: I'm finding it hard to agree with either side of this issue. On one hand, ED is nothing more than trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls eternally, and the other apparently takes notes on government from a certain Orwell book...

Can't we just nuke them both from orbit?


Hehe I know, in this specific case it is a little hard to take sides. A troll site vs. an intrusive nanny-wannabe government. Granted, the troll site can be mildly amusing (at best) but it is still a website that is a troll in its entirety. Only trolls like other trolls; to the other 99.99% of the people online, trolls are probably only just below spammers on the list of universally despised internet morons. On the other side, we have an overprotective, overcontrolling government that wants to censor any content that it deems unsuitable for the masses. It's easy to see how this power will be abused.
 
2010-03-16 04:21:55 PM
d'oh 32 seconds...
 
2010-03-16 04:22:45 PM
redsquid: I refer you to the case of Troll vs. Facts Pulled Out of an Ass...

Goddamn it, I have a half hour left here and I'm having fun poking it! Leave me alone!

/Besides, his response gave everything one needs.
 
2010-03-16 04:23:02 PM
Geotpf: BolshevikMuppet: patrick767: Dear Australia,
Free speech is a good thing.

Encyclopedia Dramatica is believed to be one of the websites that will be banned in Australia under upcoming internet filtering legislation.

Wow, that's sad. The whole country will be blocked from sites that the government deems offensive? Australians want this to happen?

It's also really messed up that someone with a US based website may be charged with publishing something on it that violates Australian law just because someone in Australia can navigate to it on the web. Allowing such a case to go forward would be a horrible precedent.

That shiat won't fly.

The long-arm ability of any court is limited by personal jurisdiction. In order for a foreign body (either state or country) to claim jurisdiction is to show significant ties to the state or country in question.

Since E.D has no presence in Australia, and does no actual business there, I would not be surprised if any American court rejected that. Besides, in order to get any money out of him, the case would have to be domesticated to an American court, which he could appeal to have reviewed de novo.

Finally, the case they cite is completely off point. The business in question had direct business ties to Australia, and to the person in question. And what they wrote was itself illegal under American law. That's not the case here. Being able to get money from a foreign citizen if he harms me in violation of the foreign country's laws is one thing. Getting money from a foreign citizen for violating my laws while in his own country is moronic.

There is, annoyingly, something similiar that has occurred. British libel law is stupidly strict. People who live in country A who publish a book in country B about a person in country C can be sued in country D (Great Britain) for libel, if a single copy of the book was sold in Great Britain (even without direct permission of the publishers of the book). Also, a country in Europe (forget which one) claims "universal jurisdiction" in crimes against humanity.

But, as a practical matter, he's perfectly safe, provided he doesn't go to Australia.


Yup. Also, doctors can't publish articles calling homoeopathy a load of shiat (figuratively speaking) without facing libel charges. It's a joke.
 
2010-03-16 04:23:13 PM
BraveNewCheneyWorld: Earlier this year the same article - which includes numerous offensive depictions of Aborigines - was removed from Google's search listings after a request from the Human Rights Commission. fark you google!

Was it removed from just http://www.google.com.au/ or both that and http://www.google.com./? If it's the first, Google had no choice, other than to shut down their Australian office completely (similiar to the situation they are currently facing in China).
 
2010-03-16 04:23:47 PM
I'd like to invite all the hot Aussie women to emigrate to the USA, where logic still prevails (for now.)
 
2010-03-16 04:24:02 PM
Altourus: You could use one of these Link (new window)

good idea. my old one was made in north korea
 
2010-03-16 04:24:07 PM
TheHateMonger 2010-03-16 04:19:26 PM
On one hand, I'm terrified by government actions like this, like Christopher Handley, and like the laws for making people register as sex offenders for public urination. On the other hand, people have been complaining about their governments since the dawn of time, and modern society is doing ok if this is the worst of it.

/Just because it's not that bad doesn't mean we should be ok with it


its not that its really bad now, its that it cant get anything but worse. the majority of Americans just dont have the foresight to see it and continue to give the gov't more power and money.


"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism,
but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism,until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."

Nakita Khrushchev
 
2010-03-16 04:24:14 PM
My question is... who clued the Aborigines in on the joke?
 
2010-03-16 04:24:14 PM
This is classic Streisand effect. The people that visit Encyclopedia Dramatica don't give a flying fark about offending/being offended. But this kind of publicity just drives people to the site. Should have just STFU.
 
2010-03-16 04:25:01 PM
okami36: EWreckedSean: okami36: EWreckedSean: Just because you have the right to own a gun, doesn't mean you have the right to bring it into a theater

Actually, you do. Concealed carry is granted with a license in most states, and in most states you don't even need that for openly carrying a pistol. Theaters (unless on school grounds or federal property, such as a military base) are not a "protected" environment, so carrying you gun would be perfectly legal.

A theater is private property. You can only carry a weapon there or on any private property whether concealed or not if the business owner ALLOWS it. Most you will find don't, and if they catch you with it, they are 100% in their legal right to make you leave.

Then it needs to be posted. Sure, they can ask you to leave, but they can ask anyone to leave for any reason.


It doesn't need to be posted. Like all rules, ignorance of them doesn't exampt you from them. While a business may allow you to carry, and you may get away with carrying especially if it is concealed even if they don't, I refer to my original statement. You have zero RIGHT to carry on private property. Even if you are allowed to, it is a privilege, not a right, and it may be revoked by the property own at any point.
 
2010-03-16 04:25:52 PM
Is it April 1st already?
 
2010-03-16 04:26:13 PM
coney: lot of hate for an entire nation despite all the shiat being caused by 1 of it's residents. Fark you all

well, there's also

jacko
yahoo serious
paul hogan
the term "barbie" for grill
sea creatures that will kill you quicker than spit
aborigines
fat guys with those hats with corks hanging off them
 
2010-03-16 04:27:59 PM
Geotpf: BolshevikMuppet: patrick767: Also, a country in Europe (forget which one) claims "universal jurisdiction" in crimes against humanity.

Every country has universal jurisdiction to prosecute crimes against humanity. Yes, even the U.S.
 
2010-03-16 04:28:56 PM
Jackpot777:

Was on Rottnest Island about three years ago. Hung out with a really, really hot chick with horribly crooked teeth.
 
2010-03-16 04:29:16 PM
Gdalescrboz: TheHateMonger 2010-03-16 04:19:26 PM
On one hand, I'm terrified by government actions like this, like Christopher Handley, and like the laws for making people register as sex offenders for public urination. On the other hand, people have been complaining about their governments since the dawn of time, and modern society is doing ok if this is the worst of it.

/Just because it's not that bad doesn't mean we should be ok with it

its not that its really bad now, its that it cant get anything but worse. the majority of Americans just dont have the foresight to see it and continue to give the gov't more power and money.


"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism,
but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism,until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."

Nakita Khrushchev


And you listen to that dead commie?
 
2010-03-16 04:30:19 PM
EWreckedSean: okami36: EWreckedSean: okami36: EWreckedSean: Just because you have the right to own a gun, doesn't mean you have the right to bring it into a theater

Actually, you do. Concealed carry is granted with a license in most states, and in most states you don't even need that for openly carrying a pistol. Theaters (unless on school grounds or federal property, such as a military base) are not a "protected" environment, so carrying you gun would be perfectly legal.

A theater is private property. You can only carry a weapon there or on any private property whether concealed or not if the business owner ALLOWS it. Most you will find don't, and if they catch you with it, they are 100% in their legal right to make you leave.

Then it needs to be posted. Sure, they can ask you to leave, but they can ask anyone to leave for any reason.

It doesn't need to be posted. Like all rules, ignorance of them doesn't exampt you from them. While a business may allow you to carry, and you may get away with carrying especially if it is concealed even if they don't, I refer to my original statement. You have zero RIGHT to carry on private property. Even if you are allowed to, it is a privilege, not a right, and it may be revoked by the property own at any point.


My point is that not being able to carry a gun in a theater carries not legal penalty, where as shouting "fire" does. If I go in with a gun, and they decide they don't like it, the worst they can do is ask me to leave. If I shout "fire", I can be arrested for inciting panic. If their choice about carry a weapon is posted, then I can be charged with criminal trespassing if I ignore the sign (or if I ignore them asking me to leave).
 
2010-03-16 04:30:35 PM
Fark, no Monty Python references? I'm horribly ashamed of you!

Unless I missed it, then shame on me.
 
2010-03-16 04:30:51 PM
I found 'Crocodile Dundee' extremely offensive, who can I sue or get imprisoned for that?
 
2010-03-16 04:31:19 PM
meowgret thatcher 2010-03-16 04:29:16 PM
Gdalescrboz: TheHateMonger 2010-03-16 04:19:26 PM
On one hand, I'm terrified by government actions like this, like Christopher Handley, and like the laws for making people register as sex offenders for public urination. On the other hand, people have been complaining about their governments since the dawn of time, and modern society is doing ok if this is the worst of it.

/Just because it's not that bad doesn't mean we should be ok with it

its not that its really bad now, its that it cant get anything but worse. the majority of Americans just dont have the foresight to see it and continue to give the gov't more power and money.


"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism,
but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism,until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."

Nakita Khrushchev

And you listen to that dead commie?


Friends close enemies closer. You would be a fool to not lsiten to him
 
2010-03-16 04:31:23 PM
wpmulligan Quote 2010-03-16 03:03:46 PM
I guess that's a didgeridont.



Darn it!! Only 1 1/2 hours late.

/just missed.
 
MIU
2010-03-16 04:33:18 PM
Gdalescrboz: its not that its really bad now, its that it cant get anything but worse. the majority of Americans just dont have the foresight to see it and continue to give the gov't more power and money.

"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism,
but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism,until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."

Nakita Khrushchev


Then go ahead and disband your publicly funded firefighters and military already.
 
2010-03-16 04:33:47 PM
A Short History of the Aboriginal Theatre by Brian Bumwanker
(Bounty Bay Press, Melbourne, 1875)

Chapter One

There is no Aboriginal Theatre.
 
2010-03-16 04:34:52 PM
TheBlackrose [TotalFark] Quote 2010-03-16 03:16:10 PM
Really, Australia? Really? Who in the fark designated you retards the arbiters of everything just, right and wholesome on the Internet? What's next, you start taking pages from Demolition Man?

.


HEY!! Demolition man was awesome!
 
2010-03-16 04:34:58 PM
6502programmer: patrick767: It's also really messed up that someone with a US based website may be charged with publishing something on it that violates Australian law just because someone in Australia can navigate to it on the web. Allowing such a case to go forward would be a horrible precedent.

Oh, you mean like US v. Thomas, which involved a postal inspector in Tennessee accessing a BBS in California. Yeah, that held up under appeal.


That was a violation of U.S law which they were charged with. They were charged by an American court (as American citizens) for violating American law.

That's the difference.
 
2010-03-16 04:35:45 PM
moresugar: Geotpf: BolshevikMuppet: patrick767: Also, a country in Europe (forget which one) claims "universal jurisdiction" in crimes against humanity.

Every country has universal jurisdiction to prosecute crimes against humanity. Yes, even the U.S.


Good. Now to find the names of the people pushing for this anti-free speech legislation and go after the aussie buggers.
 
2010-03-16 04:35:53 PM
Red Indian Aboriginal Person in a Theatre Sketch

(The front stalls of a theatre. It is an opening night - a lot of people in dinner jackets etc. About three rows back there is a spare seat. A general rustle of programmes, chocolates and theatrical murmurs. Suddenly a Sioux Indian enters, clad only in loin cloth, wearing war paint and with a single strip of hair in the middle of his head and feather. He carries a bow and a quiver of arrows. He settles into the empty seat. The man next to him shifts uneasily and looks straight ahead. The Indian looks his neighbour up and down a couple of times.)

Indian (Eric Idle): (always speaking with full gestures) Me heap want see play. Me want play start heap soon.

(Man next to him nods.)

Man (Graham Chapman): Yes well. I think it begins in a minute.

Indian: Me heap big fan Cicely Courtneidge.

Man: (highly embarrassed) Yes, she's very good.

Indian: She fine actress ... she make interpretation heap subtle ... she heap good diction and timing ... she make part really live for Indian brave.

Man: Yes, yes, she's marvelous.

Indian: My father - Chief Running Stag - leader of mighty Redfoot tribe - him heap keen on Michael Denison and Dulcie Gray.

Man: (unwillingly drawn in) Do you go to the theater a lot?

Indian: When moon high over prairie, when wolf howl over mountain, when mighty wind roar through Yellow Valley, we go Leatherhead Rep - block booking, upper circle - whole tribe get it on 3/6d each.

Man: That's very good.

Indian: Stage Manager, Stan Wilson, heap good friend Redfoot tribe. After show we go pow-wow speakum with director, Sandy Camp, in snug bar of Bell and Compasses. Him mighty fine director. Him heap famous.

Man: Oh, I don't know him myself.

Indian: Him say Leatherhead Rep like do play with Redfoot tribe.

Man: Oh that's good...

Indian: We do 'Dial M for Murder'. Chief Running Elk - him kill buffalo with bare hands, run thousand paces when the sun is high - him play Chief Inspector Hardy - heap good fine actor.

Man: You do a lot of acting do you?

Indian: Yes. Redfoot tribe live by acting and hunting.

Man: You don't fight any more?

Indian: Yes! Redfoot make war! When Chief Yellow Snake was leader, and Mighty Eagle was in land of forefather, we fight Pawnee at Oxbow Crossing. When Pawnee steal our rehearsal copies of 'Reluctant Debutante' we kill fifty Pawnee - houses heap full every night. Heap good publicity.

(The lights start to dim. Auditorium chatter subsides.)

Man: (visibly relieved) I think he's about to start now, thank God for that.

(They both look towards stage. The overture starts.)

Indian: (leaning across) Paleface like eat chocolate? (proffers box)

Man: No, thank you very much.

Indian: (helping himself) Hmmm - crunchy frog - heap good.

(Cut to stage, house manager walks out in front of tabs. He is a very nice young man)

House Manager (Michael Palin): Ladies and gentlemen. Before the play starts, I would like to apologize to you all, but unfortunately Miss Cicely Courtneidge is unable to appear, owing to...

(He is suddenly struck in the chest by first one arrow and then another. He crumbles to the ground revealing half a dozen in his back. The air is filled with war-whoops and drum beats and screams.)
 
2010-03-16 04:35:55 PM
known error: Way to China it up, Australia Google.

FTFY - and my irony meter just asploded
 
2010-03-16 04:36:01 PM
fudgefactor7: I'd like to invite all the hot Aussie women to emigrate to the USA, where logic still prevails (for now.)

Really? I see your logic and raise you intelligent design, Fox News, gay rights, subprime loans, Glenn Beck and using a two thousand old fairy tale to guide political decisions.

\Free speech lol
 
2010-03-16 04:36:15 PM
moresugar: Geotpf: BolshevikMuppet: patrick767: Also, a country in Europe (forget which one) claims "universal jurisdiction" in crimes against humanity.

Every country has universal jurisdiction to prosecute crimes against humanity. Yes, even the U.S.


Yeah, except no one would extradite for it. Unless this guy violated American law, no American court is going to open him to international liability.
 
2010-03-16 04:41:35 PM
MIU 2010-03-16 04:33:18 PM
Gdalescrboz: its not that its really bad now, its that it cant get anything but worse. the majority of Americans just dont have the foresight to see it and continue to give the gov't more power and money.

"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism,
but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism,until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."

Nakita Khrushchev

Then go ahead and disband your publicly funded firefighters and military already.


Why would i? I have a gov't job and i reap the benefits of your foolishness. I have awesome medical benefits, paid vacation, i'll make 85% after retirement...and hte best part, its on your dime while most of you dont have any of those i listed. I dont have a problem taking money from you guys when you are so eager to give it to me. I think its the wrong way to go about runnign the country, but i make bank off it so im not gonna change it.
 
2010-03-16 04:44:22 PM
okami36: okami36:
My point is that not being able to carry a gun in a theater carries not legal penalty, where as shouting "fire" does. If I go in with a gun, and they decide they don't like it, the worst they can do is ask me to leave. If I shout "fire", I can be arrested for inciting panic. If their choice about carry a weapon is posted, then I can be charged with criminal trespassing if I ignore the sign (or if I ignore them asking me to leave).


Go into a theater and shout fire. You won't get arrested. You will get removed. The whole shouting fire case was overturned years ago. The only speech that is illegal is speech that incites imminent lawlessness. Now if you manage to incite a panic and somebody gets hurt, you may open yourself up to a civil suit, but shouting fire in a theater isn't criminal.
 
2010-03-16 04:44:25 PM
coney: lot of hate for an entire nation despite all the shiat being caused by 1 of it's residents. Fark you all.

Well, see, said US resident is in the US and violating no laws of the US, and with no ties to Australia. Why should he care what Australia thinks about what he's doing is completely legal in the US?

I also think most people here are ripping on the Australian government, not the people as a whole. I think most people rip on ANY form of what they perceive as government stupidity, whether foreign or domestic. It's just easier when it's foreign because, well, it's "far away".

Personally, I want of visit Australia someday. I have an urge to fish for barramundi; I hear they're an excellent fighting fish.
 
2010-03-16 04:46:07 PM
The bad thing about freedom of speech is that you have to put up with assholes. Here is an idea; don't go to that website. You can even tell all your friends that they shouldn't go to that website. Although that will probably make them want to check it out.
 
2010-03-16 04:46:32 PM
What's really scary about how far the PC pendulum has swung is how far back it will swing to the other side. It really wouldn't surprise me if, 50 years from now, the backlash caused by the PCing of industrialized countries will make ethnic genocide in those places not uncommon.
 
2010-03-16 04:47:08 PM
I find the HREOC's and Aborigine's whiny butt-hurt statements to be highly offensive. They need to removed from the internet. If they aren't, I'll file criminal charges against them and sue them for all the Vegemite in Fremantle.
 
2010-03-16 04:47:10 PM
okami36: EWreckedSean: okami36: EWreckedSean: okami36: EWreckedSean: Just because you have the right to own a gun, doesn't mean you have the right to bring it into a theater

Actually, you do. Concealed carry is granted with a license in most states, and in most states you don't even need that for openly carrying a pistol. Theaters (unless on school grounds or federal property, such as a military base) are not a "protected" environment, so carrying you gun would be perfectly legal.

A theater is private property. You can only carry a weapon there or on any private property whether concealed or not if the business owner ALLOWS it. Most you will find don't, and if they catch you with it, they are 100% in their legal right to make you leave.

Then it needs to be posted. Sure, they can ask you to leave, but they can ask anyone to leave for any reason.

It doesn't need to be posted. Like all rules, ignorance of them doesn't exampt you from them. While a business may allow you to carry, and you may get away with carrying especially if it is concealed even if they don't, I refer to my original statement. You have zero RIGHT to carry on private property. Even if you are allowed to, it is a privilege, not a right, and it may be revoked by the property own at any point.

My point is that not being able to carry a gun in a theater carries not legal penalty, where as shouting "fire" does. If I go in with a gun, and they decide they don't like it, the worst they can do is ask me to leave. If I shout "fire", I can be arrested for inciting panic. If their choice about carry a weapon is posted, then I can be charged with criminal trespassing if I ignore the sign (or if I ignore them asking me to leave).


What the brother said. This.

That being said, I think they should replace the "No Gun" signs with "Criminals Welcome, no one in here is armed." signs.

/although I live in IL
//one of the ONLY 2 states that do not allow CCW
///look how well it is doing for IL's crime rate... lol
////oh, and Chicago, where if you're a resident you can't even own a gun.... gun crime rate there is fantastic... no one has ever been shot in Chicago because guns aren't allowed
//slashies!
 
2010-03-16 04:47:12 PM
I should log in and make a minor edit to that page so that I can be a felon in Australia too.
 
2010-03-16 04:47:17 PM
ED articles sometimes contain gems of truth you'll find in no other encyclopedia:

"The pastime of EFnet is OP wars: fighting over who is channel operator. These are won by whoever can perform denial of service attacks the best"
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Irc
 
2010-03-16 04:49:03 PM
EWreckedSean: okami36: okami36:
My point is that not being able to carry a gun in a theater carries not legal penalty, where as shouting "fire" does. If I go in with a gun, and they decide they don't like it, the worst they can do is ask me to leave. If I shout "fire", I can be arrested for inciting panic. If their choice about carry a weapon is posted, then I can be charged with criminal trespassing if I ignore the sign (or if I ignore them asking me to leave).

Go into a theater and shout fire. You won't get arrested. You will get removed. The whole shouting fire case was overturned years ago. The only speech that is illegal is speech that incites imminent lawlessness. Now if you manage to incite a panic and somebody gets hurt, you may open yourself up to a civil suit, but shouting fire in a theater isn't criminal.


I thought that law was decided at the state level...
 
2010-03-16 04:51:50 PM
HunterNIU: EWreckedSean: okami36: okami36:
My point is that not being able to carry a gun in a theater carries not legal penalty, where as shouting "fire" does. If I go in with a gun, and they decide they don't like it, the worst they can do is ask me to leave. If I shout "fire", I can be arrested for inciting panic. If their choice about carry a weapon is posted, then I can be charged with criminal trespassing if I ignore the sign (or if I ignore them asking me to leave).

Go into a theater and shout fire. You won't get arrested. You will get removed. The whole shouting fire case was overturned years ago. The only speech that is illegal is speech that incites imminent lawlessness. Now if you manage to incite a panic and somebody gets hurt, you may open yourself up to a civil suit, but shouting fire in a theater isn't criminal.

I thought that law was decided at the state level...


Nope, 1st amendment if the Constitution plus the incorporation doctrine of the 14th amendment makes it a federal issue.
 
2010-03-16 04:52:07 PM
I'll have to wait until I get home to have a look at the site. It's blocked by my employer's filter.

In the meantime, some general observations:

1) extraterritorial application of national laws is often morally and legally hazardous;

2) virtually everything offends somebody somewhere, so a means of universal publication or communication is exceptionally risky;

3) legitimate satire's right to shock is protected by most freedom of speech laws in most situations most of the time in most liberal democratic countries except when a judge or jury decides otherwise;

4) humour and satire are often employed by pignorant racists, bigots and other prejudiced persons as a shield for objectionable slanders, lies and tomfoolery.

5) I advocate the death penalty for any a-hole who employs the old you-have-no-sense-of-humour or I-was-only-joking gambit after saying something eggregious or personally offensive. If you're going to be blatantly and publically rude, you should neither seek nor find a defence in attacking the character of your victim as well as whatever demographic is the target of your pignorance. Be a man. Admit you are a jerk.

6) The author should normally be the person who is liable for prosecution or litigation in such cases. If an editor or publisher assumes the defence of the anonymity of such an author, he assumes the legal costs. If he shares the opinions, he shares the moral risk as well.
 
2010-03-16 04:52:27 PM
badhatharry: The bad thing about freedom of speech is that you have to put up with OTHER assholes. Here is an idea; don't go to that website. You can even tell all your friends that they shouldn't go to that website. Although that will probably make them want to check it out.

we all seem to think our own brand of assholishness is fine and dandy.
 
2010-03-16 04:53:31 PM
Knucklepopper
Wow, what a powerful stand for the right to free speech: writing juvenile attacks against entire sub-sects of society.

Hah. This is one of ED's nicer "projects". You should see what they do when they target individuals. The place is a clearing house for stalking and harassment.
 
2010-03-16 04:54:05 PM
EWreckedSean: HunterNIU: EWreckedSean: okami36: okami36:
My point is that not being able to carry a gun in a theater carries not legal penalty, where as shouting "fire" does. If I go in with a gun, and they decide they don't like it, the worst they can do is ask me to leave. If I shout "fire", I can be arrested for inciting panic. If their choice about carry a weapon is posted, then I can be charged with criminal trespassing if I ignore the sign (or if I ignore them asking me to leave).

Go into a theater and shout fire. You won't get arrested. You will get removed. The whole shouting fire case was overturned years ago. The only speech that is illegal is speech that incites imminent lawlessness. Now if you manage to incite a panic and somebody gets hurt, you may open yourself up to a civil suit, but shouting fire in a theater isn't criminal.

I thought that law was decided at the state level...

Nope, 1st amendment if the Constitution plus the incorporation doctrine of the 14th amendment makes it a federal issue.


Makes sense, but then I'm curious why the 2nd Amendment cant be over-ruled by State and Local governments.
 
2010-03-16 04:54:21 PM
NightOwl2255: Barfmaker: Encyclopedia Dramatica is offensive to everyone, that is the point of it.

What offends me most about the site is it's laden with malware and virus infected links. We used a VM and found link after link were infected like a 2 dollar whore in a Mexican whorehouse.


Well, that may explain the filter's reaction, although it also tends to filter out any website that talks about the equality of the sexes too much.

I will be cautious and Google the webpage rather than going directly to it. I've got several kinds of software to warn against dangerous sites.
 
2010-03-16 04:54:48 PM
badhatharry: The bad thing about freedom of speech is that you have to put up with assholes. Here is an idea; don't go to that website. You can even tell all your friends that they shouldn't go to that website. Although that will probably make them want to check it out.

Don't go to 4chan.

/seriously
 
2010-03-16 04:55:22 PM
I never go there anymore since they don't remove the gratuitous CP sprinkled across a few articles.
 
2010-03-16 04:55:54 PM
Non-issue.

He'll ignore the Australians and so will our Government.
 
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