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2010-03-16 01:04:26 PM
"I'm gonna give you three seconds--exactly three farking seconds--to wipe that stupid lookin' grin off your face, or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull fark you!"
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2010-03-16 01:16:08 PM
phlegmmo: "I'm gonna give you three seconds--exactly three farking seconds--to wipe that stupid lookin' grin off your face, or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull fark you!"

That's not a soldier.
 
2010-03-16 01:19:02 PM
He just likes to stick with his own is all.
 
2010-03-16 01:26:08 PM
what_now:
phlegmmo: "I'm gonna give you three seconds--exactly three farking seconds--to wipe that stupid lookin' grin off your face, or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull fark you!"

That's not a soldier.


Ermey spent two years as a drill instructor at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego, California, and Parris Island, South Carolina from 1965 to 1967. In 1968, Ermey arrived in Vietnam where he served for 14 months with the Marine Wing Support Group 17. He then served two tours of duty in Okinawa, Japan, during which he rose to the rank of Staff Sergeant (E-6) and was medically retired in 1972 for several injuries incurred during his tours. The 5'10 former Marine now resides in Georgia.

Sounds like a soldier to me. But I could be wrong.
 
2010-03-16 01:29:16 PM
phlegmmo: what_now:
phlegmmo: "I'm gonna give you three seconds--exactly three farking seconds--to wipe that stupid lookin' grin off your face, or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull fark you!"

That's not a soldier.

Ermey spent two years as a drill instructor at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego, California, and Parris Island, South Carolina from 1965 to 1967. In 1968, Ermey arrived in Vietnam where he served for 14 months with the Marine Wing Support Group 17. He then served two tours of duty in Okinawa, Japan, during which he rose to the rank of Staff Sergeant (E-6) and was medically retired in 1972 for several injuries incurred during his tours. The 5'10 former Marine now resides in Georgia.

Sounds like a soldier to me. But I could be wrong.


Marines don't like to be referred to as soldiers.
 
2010-03-16 01:30:34 PM
phlegmmo: Sounds like a soldier to me. But I could be wrong.

You are. He was in the Marine Corps, that makes him a sailor.
 
2010-03-16 01:36:16 PM
phlegmmo: what_now:
phlegmmo: "I'm gonna give you three seconds--exactly three farking seconds--to wipe that stupid lookin' grin off your face, or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull fark you!"

That's not a soldier.

Ermey spent two years as a drill instructor at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego, California, and Parris Island, South Carolina from 1965 to 1967. In 1968, Ermey arrived in Vietnam where he served for 14 months with the Marine Wing Support Group 17. He then served two tours of duty in Okinawa, Japan, during which he rose to the rank of Staff Sergeant (E-6) and was medically retired in 1972 for several injuries incurred during his tours. The 5'10 former Marine now resides in Georgia.

Sounds like a soldier to me. But I could be wrong.


Why don't you ask your wife what she thinks?

(old meme is old)
 
2010-03-16 01:40:07 PM
Well, I mean, the guy thinks a military man is a man who got away with murder and collected a paycheck for it. That's how he feels. I think the last course of action would be to force him to hire military members, although that's practically what would happen if this were in the US at all.

Just don't try to get a job with the guy. Why would you want to, anyway? You'd be working alongside pedophiles, convicts, and drug dealers.
 
2010-03-16 01:42:45 PM
Gecko Gingrich: Marines don't like to be referred to as soldiers.

Got it. Thanks.
 
2010-03-16 01:50:53 PM
With our military recruiting standards now a days, I bet that the headline statement is true. Fark, they would probably love to recruit some ex-drug dealers, they show initiative.
 
2010-03-16 02:07:07 PM
SnakeLee: With our military recruiting standards now a days, I bet that the headline statement is true. Fark, they would probably love to recruit some ex-drug dealers, they show initiative.

Wrong- the recruitment standards are at an all time high. They are Turning people away.
 
2010-03-16 02:11:58 PM
as a retired employer/plant manager I can say this with no hedging. the Latinos I hired were better workers than the white people on avg.
most young white men we'd hire were ignorant,lazy and irresponsible.
not all mind you. but the majority were near worthless.
I think they grew up watching tv and playing video games and that's all they were good at.

and some of my best and most loyal employees were tokers.
as long as they didn't come to work red-eyed or try to do it there I had no problem with their recreational use after work and told them so. some even retired from there like I did.
 
2010-03-16 02:12:31 PM
I have a friend that works with PSTD soldiers from Ft Carson..she says on top of already being the bottom of the barrel smarts-wise (most typical Army dummies) that they really aren't fit for anything outside of the Army life for a variety of reasons..to include mental instability, and a severe lack of communication/interpersonal skills...and conflict resolution issues as well.

Then you look at how the Army soldiers are thought of around here (by the regular, knowing populace).. and you can understand why a future employer might not hire them.

Of course not all.. but enough of them.
 
2010-03-16 02:17:11 PM
As an ex-drug dealer, addict, convict and former Marine, I am getting a kick out of these replies.


/hint: Start your own business
 
2010-03-16 02:19:58 PM
real shaman: As an ex-drug dealer, addict, convict and former Marine, I am getting a kick out of these replies.

But have you diddled a child? Because you can't REALLY get a kick out of this unless you're everything on the list....
 
2010-03-16 02:30:30 PM
Dr.Knockboots: and conflict resolution issues as well

I can totally see this. You can not resolve conflicts in the military. You either do what you're told or you get... whatever they do to punish you in the military. You don't actually learn how to do any critical thinking or any kind of give-and-take because it's all or nothing.

I for one support this guys right to a) make an ass out of himself and b) hire anyone he wants to.
 
2010-03-16 02:35:00 PM
phlegmmo:
Sounds like a soldier to me. But I could be wrong.


*facepalm*

Former Marines, soldiers, et al strangely reflect their education and background. While the experience certainly helped me many aspects didn't. Regardless- there is an adaptation period many experience returning to the civilian life. For some, especially in leadership roles, they may take on the "drill sergeant" approach. For others, especially in less important roles, it means they'll be late because they can.
 
2010-03-16 03:01:33 PM
OregonVet:
phlegmmo:
Sounds like a soldier to me. But I could be wrong.

*facepalm*


I've heard Marines referred to as "soldiers of the sea", but that's probably an archaic term.

Nevertheless, I stand corrected. My dad was a WII Marine in the Pacific theater, so I'm doubly embarrassed.
 
2010-03-16 03:07:31 PM
phlegmmo: Nevertheless, I stand corrected. My dad was a WII Marine in the Pacific theater, so I'm doubly embarrassed.

No harm no foul. My dad is a pre-Vietnam era Marine and I'm a former soldier. Both MPs. Makes for good banter across the cribbage board or in the field hunting. LOL
 
2010-03-16 03:11:17 PM
phlegmmo: My dad was a WII Marine in the Pacific theater....

BTW- have you seen the Tom Hanks Pacific (a la Band of Brothers) series is coming out? I saw the sneak preview of the first episode last night. I hope my dad sees it- I'd like to hear his take; it seems quite a bit different from the Army point of view, not to mention venue.
 
2010-03-16 03:20:02 PM
OregonVet:
phlegmmo: My dad was a WII Marine in the Pacific theater....

BTW- have you seen the Tom Hanks Pacific (a la Band of Brothers) series is coming out? I saw the sneak preview of the first episode last night. I hope my dad sees it- I'd like to hear his take; it seems quite a bit different from the Army point of view, not to mention venue.


Recorded it Sunday night and looking forward to watching it.

My dad was a sergeant on Bougainville as part of a contingent of aircraft mechanics supporting SBD Dauntless dive bombers based on the island. The other half of the island was occupied by the Japanese.
 
2010-03-16 03:21:35 PM
Sounds like the congress, senate and the presidency to me.....
 
2010-03-16 03:21:39 PM
phlegmmo: My dad was a sergeant on Bougainville as part of a contingent of aircraft mechanics supporting SBD Dauntless dive bombers based on the island. The other half of the island was occupied by the Japanese.

Egad. Is he still alive? (sorry for asking if that bothers you)
 
2010-03-16 03:22:40 PM
An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: SnakeLee: With our military recruiting standards now a days, I bet that the headline statement is true. Fark, they would probably love to recruit some ex-drug dealers, they show initiative.

Wrong- the recruitment standards are at an all time high. They are Turning people away.


This.
 
2010-03-16 03:23:06 PM
We can be a bit unpredictable.

Although that's still no excuse for discrimination.
 
2010-03-16 03:23:38 PM
DammitIForgotMyLogin: phlegmmo: Sounds like a soldier to me. But I could be wrong.

You are. He was in the Marine Corps, that makes him a sailor.


That's a stabbin'

/6317 trip trey 85-89
 
2010-03-16 03:24:28 PM
I am a convicted ex-drug dealing, child molesting former soldier, so I am really getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2010-03-16 03:25:48 PM
"Anybody who has been in the pay of such a military force, and by their silence and complicity has condoned such illegal and immoral actions while accepting a monthly blood-stained pay-packet, certainly will not be considered for employment by us!"

Ok, I can see the line of thinking. I don't agree that the individual soldier is culpable, but I can see the line of thinking. What confuses me is:

"Personally, I'd rather recruit ex-drug dealers, convicts and even child molesters"

Aren't all these people at least as guilty of illegal and immoral (certainly in the case of child molesters) actions, and probably in the case of drug dealers "accepting monthly blood-soaked pay packet(s)?"
 
2010-03-16 03:26:04 PM
OregonVet: Egad. Is he still alive? (sorry for asking if that bothers you)

He passed away in 2002. When he was on the island, though, he almost had his leg taken off by a Japanese mortar. The only thing that saved his leg was a knife he had strapped to his hip. It had been a Christmas gift from his parents. The mortar actually snapped the steel blade in half. He was laid up for several months after being shipped home and had a nasty scar for the rest of his life, but he didn't even walk with a limp.

I know, cool story, bro.
 
2010-03-16 03:26:23 PM
Paedophiles?
 
2010-03-16 03:27:10 PM
Ugh what a nasty thing to say. On the other hand, free speech etc. He has a right to his beliefs, however odiously he might express them. Living and working in a free society means being offended now and then.
 
2010-03-16 03:27:26 PM
I am disturbed by the number of people agreeing with this guy.
 
2010-03-16 03:27:36 PM
What about soldier-dealing convict molesting ex-children?
Won't someone think of them?
 
2010-03-16 03:28:03 PM
Left unsaid... "and the veterans all expect to be paid fairly. Ex-cons work cheap."
 
2010-03-16 03:28:23 PM
Huh, I thought for sure the article would be about Blackwater.
 
2010-03-16 03:29:01 PM
I'm surprised Hugo said that considering he made those snappy uniforms for the SS.
 
2010-03-16 03:29:14 PM
"Anybody who has been in the pay of such a military force, and by their silence and complicity has condoned such illegal and immoral actions while accepting a monthly blood-stained pay-packet, certainly will not be considered for employment by us!

word.
 
2010-03-16 03:29:15 PM
I'd rather hire someone from Texas!
 
2010-03-16 03:29:17 PM
Linoleum_Blownapart: Left unsaid... "and the veterans all expect to be paid fairly. Ex-cons work cheap."

and they know where to get good drugs, cheap electronics and CP..
 
2010-03-16 03:29:30 PM
" saw the sneak preview of the first episode last night"

the 1st episode itself aired on Sunday
 
2010-03-16 03:29:31 PM
in my experience this is true. every single person we have hired who has served in the military has had some sort of emotional issue. most of the time dealing with anger. the never last more than 6 months, and usually end up getting fired. one guy used to always talk about going up into the hills, watching cars going by on the freeway below, and envisioning 'how easy' it would be to snipe those peope without them ever knowing what hit them. scary!
 
2010-03-16 03:30:03 PM
ladyfortuna: I am disturbed by the number of people agreeing with this guy.

All military personnel are dumb grunts. There are no educated technical people, none.
 
2010-03-16 03:30:06 PM
"Ex-pedophiles and drug addicts who have been charged and paid the price for their actions deserve a chance to get on with their lives. In my opinion, military personnel who have got away with murder do not,"

Double word.
 
2010-03-16 03:30:45 PM
phlegmmo: I know, cool story, bro.

Thanks, really.

/*cheers*
 
2010-03-16 03:31:10 PM
hitlersbrain: Huh, I thought for sure the article would be about Blackwater.

And I thought this would make a great premise for a remake of "The Dirty Dozen"
 
2010-03-16 03:31:10 PM
Ironic, since it seems former soldiers (assuming they weren't kicked out for being crazy) would make great employees for the most part. At the worst, they're blindly obedient, loyal, and generally disciplined. At best, those qualities lend themselves to great work.
 
2010-03-16 03:32:30 PM
Hey, it's a real-life troll!
 
2010-03-16 03:32:57 PM
Back there I could fly a gunship, I could drive a tank, I was in charge of million dollar equipment, back here I can't even hold a job PARKING CARS!
 
2010-03-16 03:32:58 PM
I remember when the first troops starting coming back from Iraq (I live in a huge military town) and all that week they were playing this song with they lyrics "Getting away with murder" on the local rock station.


Har har....a big inside joke...har harfark the troops.
 
2010-03-16 03:33:38 PM
LSUMJ: the 1st episode itself aired on Sunday

I don't have HBO. They aired it on T101 last night (DirecTV). As far as I was concerned it was a sneak preview.
 
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