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(Courier Press) Asinine Kentucky schools tackle the "cheese sandwich issue," decide to crack down on all these deadbeat kids who keep forgetting their lunch money   (courierpress.com) divider line 161
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Krymson Tyde [TotalFark]
2010-03-16 12:41:54 PM
That'll learn 'em.
 
Fark-N-Noodle
2010-03-16 12:42:45 PM
I suppose that would be government cheese..got nuthin...really
 
medieval
2010-03-16 12:42:55 PM
Since going to school is not an option, I don't understand why a hot lunch is not provided, every single day, to every student that wants one.
 
UncleStumpy
2010-03-16 12:43:57 PM
Want some cheese with that whine? Yeah.. i've got nuthin either. Feel sorry for the kids put in that position though.
 
video man [TotalFark]
2010-03-16 12:44:02 PM
That's OK. Enjoy your lower scores due to the lack of proper nutrition.
 
Fark-N-Noodle
2010-03-16 12:44:13 PM
medieval: Since going to school is not an option, I don't understand why a hot lunch is not provided, every single day, to every student that wants one.

that statement works for me.
 
goobergal
2010-03-16 12:44:50 PM
Our district in Maryland has been doing that for years now.
 
Flakeloaf [TotalFark]
2010-03-16 12:45:31 PM
medieval: Since going to school is not an option, I don't understand why a hot lunch is not provided, every single day, to every student that wants one.

Because children usually start their day at home where they have

1. Food
2. An object to carry food in
 
Funk Brothers
2010-03-16 12:45:42 PM
Several schools are starting to do it. I think if people ignore things such as forgetting their child's school lunch money for a large period of time, then it should treated as not paying rent.

Parents should care about their child's education and not ignore it.
 
trappedspirit [TotalFark]
2010-03-16 12:45:47 PM
Uh, where's the crazy fark angle on this one? I can't seem to find why this is even here.
 
HellRaisingHoosier
2010-03-16 12:46:06 PM
Because that's what our children need right now! To be harassing their own parents for money in the middle of the worst Recession in recent history. Way to make the poor feel even lousier about their situation Kentucky!

I, for one, will gladly pay a high tax to make sure American children don't have to worry about one meal out of the day.
 
SakuraDensetsu
2010-03-16 12:46:07 PM
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metametameta
2010-03-16 12:46:11 PM
I make my kids lunch every single day so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
Fark Me To Tears [TotalFark]
2010-03-16 12:46:40 PM
What's funny (and sad) about this is that the parents who can't afford to pay for their kids' school lunches don't seem to have a problem paying for cigarettes and beer.
 
Pincy
2010-03-16 12:47:58 PM
HellRaisingHoosier: I, for one, will gladly pay a high tax to make sure American children don't have to worry about one meal out of the day.

You are unfortunately most likely in the minority.
 
Sticky Hands
2010-03-16 12:48:00 PM
Fark Me To Tears: What's funny (and sad) about this is that the parents who can't afford to pay for their kids' school lunches don't seem to have a problem paying for cigarettes and beer.

I'm sure they'd happily share that with'n their kids if all you busy bodies would just let them.
 
SakuraDensetsu
2010-03-16 12:48:20 PM
Fark Me To Tears: What's funny (and sad) about this is that the parents who can't afford to pay for their kids' school lunches don't seem to have a problem paying for cigarettes and beer.

Makes sense

When I don't pay for my kids cigs and beer they report me to CPS/CAS
 
BlorfMaster
2010-03-16 12:49:49 PM
I hated them dirty poor kids at school, looking all skinny and eyeballing my lunchables and pudding cups.
 
HellRaisingHoosier
2010-03-16 12:49:56 PM
Pincy:
You are unfortunately most likely in the minority.



When I feed the poor, they call me a Saint. But when I ask why the poor are hungry, they call me a Communist.
 
MorePeasPlease
2010-03-16 12:49:58 PM
Fark Me To Tears: What's funny (and sad) about this is that the parents who can't afford to pay for their kids' school lunches don't seem to have a problem paying for cigarettes and beer.


On the bright side, their kids think that those cigs and brew at school sure make up for the missing lunch.
 
Only_A_Lad
2010-03-16 12:50:10 PM
medieval: Since going to school is not an option, I don't understand why a hot lunch is not provided, every single day, to every student that wants one.

Because that would be socialism or something.

On a more serious level, there's the issue of cost/benefit. Were schools required to guarantee a lunch to every student, a significant number would still be bringing their own lunch to school (in my experience - probably most students). But the school still has to cover those students, or at least a good number of them, just in case. That's a lot of money being wasted on extra staff, food, and preparation time for lunches that might not be used, particularly when most schools are strapped for cash as it is.

Furthermore, many people don't like the idea of "giving out" food to students who don't "need" them. But, as it stands now, it's not too difficult to qualify for either free or discounted school lunches (and breakfast, for that matter).

That's not a values judgment or anything. Personally, I don't really care either way.
 
TheDirtyNacho
2010-03-16 12:52:28 PM
Reading things like this, no wonder people go out for junk fast food all the time.

Frankly, the French do this right. There's a reason why despite all that butter and fat, the French aren't obese. They teach their children to respect quality food right from the start.

I want French school lunch...
 
Marley'sGirl
2010-03-16 12:53:54 PM
You should not have to remind parents that their kids needs to eat.

My step-daughter gets a note before her account is empty, but we always pack her lunch at our house so we know she's getting a good meal.

I agree with the others who said lunch should be provided to everyone who wants it. If a kid doesn't have money to buy lunch, there's a good chance they aren't getting complete meals at home either.
 
HellRaisingHoosier
2010-03-16 12:54:00 PM
Fark Me To Tears:
What's funny (and sad) about this is that the parents who can't afford to pay for their kids' school lunches don't seem to have a problem paying for cigarettes and beer.


Guess what? Almost a quarter of the United States isn't employed. And from what you posted, you probably think that most of them are slackers. Amiright?
 
idrow
2010-03-16 12:54:42 PM
HellRaisingHoosier: Because that's what our children need right now! To be harassing their own parents for money in the middle of the worst Recession in recent history. Way to make the poor feel even lousier about their situation Kentucky!

I, for one, will gladly pay a high tax to make sure American children don't have to worry about one meal out of the day.

Not sure if serious, but I like your thinking - let's not have to pay for things because we're in a recession. I could save a ton of money at the supermarket if I could just say 'sorry, it's a recession. I shouldn't have to be made to pay for food and you should be ashamed to ask me for money at a time like this.'

With all that money saved, we could afford the tax hike that would pay for junior's lunch.
 
The_Sponge [TotalFark]
2010-03-16 12:54:48 PM
medieval 2010-03-16 12:42:55 PM

Since going to school is not an option, I don't understand why a hot lunch is not provided, every single day, to every student that wants one.


I see where you're coming from, but do you receive a reimbursement if your child brings his or her own lunch to school? Besides, there were free/discounted hot lunches for kids when I was in elementary school.

/I miss the pronto pups.
 
X-boxershorts [TotalFark]
2010-03-16 12:55:06 PM
Flakeloaf: medieval: Since going to school is not an option, I don't understand why a hot lunch is not provided, every single day, to every student that wants one.

Because children usually start their day at home where they have

1. Food
2. An object to carry food in


This is no longer a safe assumption since the implementation of free market no oversight economics policies.

Your new corporate overlords prefer their subjects a little hungry, ignorant and impressionable.
 
Lawnchair [TotalFark]
2010-03-16 12:56:06 PM
Presumably, after 4 or 5 calls to parents aren't answered (let's be honest, some of the parents won't have phones at all), child protective services are going to get called in, and the kid is likely to get taken into care, or at least some level of CPS monitoring.

Which might well be far better for the kid. But, cynically, for the state's budget, it'd be a whole damned lot cheaper to let many, many thousands of $2 lunches slide than take even a few kids into the CPS system.
 
ReverendJasen
2010-03-16 12:56:23 PM
Jefferson Co, Ky: My kids get cheese sandwiches as soon as their account hits zero. No one sends us letters or calls, so if the kid forgets to tell us to write a check to take in, he keeps getting a cheese sandwich.
 
Funk Brothers
2010-03-16 12:57:04 PM
Marley'sGirl: You should not have to remind parents that their kids needs to eat.

My step-daughter gets a note before her account is empty, but we always pack her lunch at our house so we know she's getting a good meal.

I agree with the others who said lunch should be provided to everyone who wants it. If a kid doesn't have money to buy lunch, there's a good chance they aren't getting complete meals at home either.

There's a program called Reduced Lunch, which is poor students having to pay less for lunch. The government subsidizes it. I cannot believe how many poor and disadvantaged students do not take advantage of it.
 
pudgyv
2010-03-16 12:57:22 PM
Cry me a river.

Back in my grade school days (1960s) if you "forgot" your lunch money you didn't eat and lunch was only 20 cents then. You sure as fark didn't forget the next day!
 
borg7of9
2010-03-16 12:57:46 PM
When I read articles like this, it makes me wonder what those kids eat for lunch on the weekend and during the summer. I you can't afford to give your kid lunch money, you should pack their lunch and if you can't afford that, you need to apply for assistance. Seriously, when did providing three meals a day stop being one of the most basic requirements of any parent?
 
SakuraDensetsu
2010-03-16 12:58:20 PM
HellRaisingHoosier: Pincy:
You are unfortunately most likely in the minority.



When I feed the poor, they call me a Saint. But when I ask why the poor are hungry, they call me a Communist.

beep beep beep beep
 
Fizpez
2010-03-16 12:59:01 PM
Qualifying for free or reduced (40 cents/day) lunch is pretty much filling out one piece of paper at the beginning of the year where you list monthly income vs monthly commitmens (rent, alimony, etc)

There no IRS audit, W-2, blood sample, or otherwise invasive personal questions asked.

This year the same form also gets your child free/reduced breakfast as well. In a nutshell there's very little reason for a kid to go hungry if they are attending a public school - they can have 2 of the three daily meals taken care of by filling out a form that takes about as much time as scratching off 3 lottery tickets.
 
lennavan
2010-03-16 12:59:44 PM
After $10 in charges, the student will be required to call his or her parent to request more money before being given a meal...

If the bill reaches $40 and the parent has not made payment arrangements, the parent will be notified that the student may be excluded from "extracurricular activities that are not part of the district's educational program"

I get where the school is coming from. They're providing the students with lunches when the parents forget and trying to force them to pay up because the school cant constantly keep taking losses by giving out food to everyone who forgets their lunch. But this is just stupid, they're putting the kids in the middle of it. Douchebags.
 
up2nfg
2010-03-16 12:59:50 PM
Don't schoolyard bullies charge a fee to enter the playground, and could this be the cause of the lunch money shortage scandal?
 
HellRaisingHoosier
2010-03-16 12:59:53 PM
idrow:

Not sure if serious, but I like your thinking - let's not have to pay for things because we're in a recession. I could save a ton of money at the supermarket if I could just say 'sorry, it's a recession. I shouldn't have to be made to pay for food and you should be ashamed to ask me for money at a time like this.'

With all that money saved, we could afford the tax hike that would pay for junior's lunch.


Recession or not. I want to make sure all American children have one "free" meal(on the taxpayer) a day. Why not make it their school lunch and kill two birds with one stone.

But there is a food-stamp program in place. So technically you can say, "Sorry, it's a Recession and I don't want to pay for this food." And you still get the food.
 
medieval
2010-03-16 01:00:40 PM
Funk Brothers:
There's a program called Reduced Lunch, which is poor students having to pay less for lunch. The government subsidizes it. I cannot believe how many poor and disadvantaged students do not take advantage of it.

You mean you cannot believe how many parents of poor and disadvantaged students don't care/get involved enough to sign them up?
 
Shevaresh
2010-03-16 01:01:39 PM
To the school board: Good job!

To those that want me to pay for the food these children eat: Screw that. School is a public good that all children should have equal access to; I'm willing to do my part. But if you can't afford to feed them, maybe you shouldn't have the little crotch dropping.
 
mahakala
2010-03-16 01:01:57 PM
Great, now I can't stop thinking about having a cheese sandwich.
 
TheDirtyNacho
2010-03-16 01:02:07 PM
Funk Brothers: Marley'sGirl: You should not have to remind parents that their kids needs to eat.

My step-daughter gets a note before her account is empty, but we always pack her lunch at our house so we know she's getting a good meal.

I agree with the others who said lunch should be provided to everyone who wants it. If a kid doesn't have money to buy lunch, there's a good chance they aren't getting complete meals at home either.

There's a program called Reduced Lunch, which is poor students having to pay less for lunch. The government subsidizes it. I cannot believe how many poor and disadvantaged students do not take advantage of it.


The poor and disadvantaged are often just not aware of such programs, or, perhaps as a matter of pride, unwilling to be labeled poor and disadvantaged.
 
Magorn [TotalFark]
2010-03-16 01:02:24 PM
medieval: Since going to school is not an option, I don't understand why a hot lunch is not provided, every single day, to every student that wants one.

My kid goes to an incredibly wealthy school where nonetheless about 20% of the kids are on free lunch. I've never farking understood why providing a hot free lunch is not just something that's built into a school's budget. The electronic whiteboards in my kid's classroomsare neat and all, but I'd be okay with chalkboards and more money to help feed hungry kids.

For a fair number of kids in that school the hot school lunch may be the only decent meal they get all day (and anybody every wonder/care what happens to kids dependant on school lunch for the 3 months of summer?) and the link between proper nutrition and brain development is beyond dispute.

Now You can argue that this is social services' job not the schools, but since the Schools have lately claimed that policing every aspect of student's behavoir 24 hours a day, on or off campus is part of their mission, then I think providing for the kid's most basic need is too.
 
Headso
2010-03-16 01:03:31 PM
Instead of paying the people to harass the deadbeats just cut out the middle man and pay for the kid's lunch.
 
genzoman
2010-03-16 01:03:56 PM
medieval: Since going to school is not an option, I don't understand why a hot lunch is not provided, every single day, to every student that wants one.

because a lot of people (in kentucky especially it seems) don't make enough money to send their kids to school to receive a good lunch. when i was in elementary school something along the lines of 25% of kids were on free or reduced lunch. the lunch still costs the school the same so they pass the buck off to kids who can afford it. nobody wants to help pay school taxes or wants higher taxes in general so this is what you get. this is in no way a new thing, at least in kentucky.
 
Funk Brothers
2010-03-16 01:04:15 PM
TheDirtyNacho: The poor and disadvantaged are often just not aware of such programs, or, perhaps as a matter of pride, unwilling to be labeled poor and disadvantaged.

My school's handbook points out the Reduced Lunch Program.
 
Ant
2010-03-16 01:04:57 PM
Fark-N-Noodle: I suppose that would be government cheese..got nuthin...really

Government cheese makes great nachos!
 
Pincy
2010-03-16 01:05:21 PM
borg7of9: When I read articles like this, it makes me wonder what those kids eat for lunch on the weekend and during the summer.

They probably don't.
 
HellRaisingHoosier
2010-03-16 01:06:46 PM
Shevaresh:
To those that want me to pay for the food these children eat: Screw that. School is a public good that all children should have equal access to; I'm willing to do my part. But if you can't afford to feed them, maybe you shouldn't have the little crotch dropping.

So you're willing to educate the children. Something that is not a necessity to life -- but an extremely technical task and heavy tax drain. But not give them food, which is a basic need to survive.

Your logic confuses me.
 
ReverendJasen
2010-03-16 01:07:11 PM
lennavan: I get where the school is coming from. They're providing the students with lunches when the parents forget and trying to force them to pay up because the school cant constantly keep taking losses by giving out food to everyone who forgets their lunch. But this is just stupid, they're putting the kids in the middle of it. Douchebags.

Not kids that forget their lunch, all kids. The way it works these days is that every kid as an account with the cafeteria that the parents are required to replenish every once in a while by sending in a check, or having their kid take a check in to the lunch lady. It makes it easier, because you don't have to give them money every day, just hand them a check every once in a while. The kids can't lose any money, just have to remember their number (at my kid's school, it's a 3 digit number).
When the account runs low, the cafeteria reminds the kid to get another check to replenish their account.
If you keep forgetting to write another check, the accounts goes negative, and the kids start getting cheese sandwiches.
My daughter got cheese sandwiches a couple times because she kept forgetting to tell us the account was getting low.
 
HellRaisingHoosier
2010-03-16 01:08:59 PM
Headso:
Instead of paying the people to harass the deadbeats just cut out the middle man and pay for the kid's lunch.


Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't get all fiscally conservative....this is Kentucky after all. A bastion of liberal hot-heads.

/oh, wait
 
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