Women have the right to make me a sammich.

To be fair, they're free to choose WHICH man will rape and beat them.

/Off to RTFA

Zulgaines: Women have the right to make me a sammich.

Unless the sammich is prohibited by religious law.

People who want to live in a Theocracy will find ways to accomplish that goal.

This is exactly why we Americans need to pull out of the Middle East and start suppressing our own damn women.

Well, Saddam was a moderate by Middle East standards.


Anyone have a Saddam Hussein "Miss me Yet" pic?

non compos mentat: Zulgaines: Women have the right to make me a sammich.

Unless the sammich is prohibited by religious law.

Mmmmm, Ham Sammich.

USA! USA! USA!

FTFA: Women in Iraq bear double burden, feel less secure or free following US-led invasion.


By Abdu Rahman and Dahr Jamail


Not written by U.S. Americans... no wonder they're wrong.

FTFA: Under Saddam Hussein, women in government got a year's maternity leave; that is now cut to six months.

Oh the horror!

Okay...enough whinging already. You can have a do-over.

Oh, wait...

women are like half the population.

/maybe they should unionize

Oh yeah... And I'd prolly oppress the one of the left.

So....time to bomb them again?

Mager: People who want to live in a Theocracy will find ways to accomplish that goal.

and to think, there are so many people in our won country to long for and strive to make a theocracy here.

Gay folks have it rougher than ever as well. Saddam was no friend to them, but now that he's gone, the religious militias have taken to hunting down and killing them in large numbers.

NPR had a rather terrifying segment about how they'll troll gay dating or hookup sites, meet with a homosexual, then torture them to death.

Is Iraq really so unstable that women nationwide are in constant fear of abduction? I would have believed this article in 2006 or 2007, but I actually thought that the rule of law has been mostly restored. There's no doubt that women's rights have deteriorated now that the Shi'a fundies are running things, but I thought that Iraq's internal stability was relatively decent now.

Secular authoritarian* > Religious democracy

Anytime, everytime.

*authoritarian, not totalitarian. Bascially, any power-hungry dictator is better than a rabid idealogue.

Mager: non compos mentat: Zulgaines: Women have the right to make me a sammich.

Unless the sammich is prohibited by religious law.

Mmmmm, Ham Sammich.

Sacrilicious....

Mager: People who want to live in a Theocracy will find ways to accomplish that goal.

These guys would like to have a word with you.



/hot

In 1993 the regime embarked on the Return to Faith Campaign (al-Hamlah al-Imaniyyah), under the direction of Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri. The Ministry of Endowments and Religious Affairs monitored places of worship, appointed the clergy, approved the building and repair of all places of worship, and approved the publication of all religious literature. The Imam (Faith) Campaign allowed Sunni mosques more freedom in practicing religious ceremonies and rites, which reduced substantially the opposition to the regime amongst Sunni Islamists. (new window)

Seems appropriate.

And it only cost us THREE TRILLION DOLLARS! USA! USA! USA!

How do you say "sandwich" in Iraqi-talk?

oops

late

/shame

"More men are now under the weight of detention, so now women bear the entire burden of the family and are obliged to provide full support to the families and children. At the same time women do not have freedom of movement because of the deteriorated security conditions and because of abductions of women and children by criminal gangs."

Welcome to creation of a Ghetto state, 101. Don't worry sweetie. The people who destroyed your land and created these conditions will be blaming your grandchildren and great-grandchildren for being stuck in a circle of poverty. Hope you got bootstraps.

The real mission of Dick Cheney and his cronies amassing insane wealth was accomplished.


If you think the invasion had anything to do with "Freedom" you are a complete fool.

Saddam Hussian, protector of civil rights.

/Genocide, whatever, there's TALKING POINTS to think about here

DROxINxTHExWIND: "More men are now under the weight of detention, so now women bear the entire burden of the family and are obliged to provide full support to the families and children. At the same time women do not have freedom of movement because of the deteriorated security conditions and because of abductions of women and children by criminal gangs."

Welcome to creation of a Ghetto state, 101. Don't worry sweetie. The people who destroyed your land and created these conditions will be blaming your grandchildren and great-grandchildren for being stuck in a circle of poverty. Hope you got bootstraps.

Get a job!

Things are bad in Iraq? Why weren't we told?

/Oh because my work insists on showing Fox News.

fernt: How do you say "sandwich" in Iraqi-talk?

Shawarma (Arabic: شاورما)

/yer woolcum

FarkinHostile: The real mission of Dick Cheney and his cronies amassing insane wealth was accomplished.


If you think the invasion had anything to do with "Freedom" you are a complete fool.

Preach!

Remind we why the Unites States invaded this sovereign nation?

Link (new window)

Mager: People who want to live in a Theocracy will find ways to accomplish that goal.

It's easier when you've invaded and toppled the secular government with no plans for what comes next.

"Here's your new leader!"

"Oops." (new window)

"Here's your new flag!"

"D-oh!" (new window)

Well, that's what they get for asking Bush for our help.

Just the fact that, in a land that's been inhabited for 10,000 years, basic human rights are referred to as "western" speaks volumes.

and the men don't get to eat bacon! I don't think we bombed them hard enough.

ToxicMunkee: So....time to bomb them again?

We can get oil from women now?

Oekss:

Get a job!

I tried, but walking from my desk to the copy machine makes my cankles hurt.

IonBeam2: Well, I guess if you're not a Shi'a or Kurdish woman you may be worse off in Iraq now.

Or a junior high girl for that matter.

good job america

Pincy: ToxicMunkee: So....time to bomb them again?

We can get oil from women now?


If you squeeze them hard enough...

Barakku: /Genocide, whatever, there's TALKING POINTS to think about here

You're right. The religious militias are, in fact, attempting genocide.

At least he couldn't use all of those WMD's on us. Because no one wants the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.

schattenteufel: Aww American Imperialism isn't working.
Maybe we should have learned something from the failures of the British, or the French, or the Romans or the Mongols, or the Ottomans, or the Egyptians...



We meddle. People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right.


FTA: She blames the United States for abdicating its responsibility to help develop a pluralistic democracy in Iraq.

Well, huh. Where to now y'all?

Tell this to the those and the families of those who were tortured and executed under Saddam. Tell them that things were better before.