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(News.com.au) Scary Girls ordered to spend weekends with sex offender father. But it's okay... the judge said they could have a lock on their bedroom door   (news.com.au) divider line 253
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2010-03-14 01:55:29 PM
From TFA: His wife left him, and has since been fighting to restrict his access to their two daughters.

If I were her, and if the judge ordered my children to stay with this man, I would see about "restricting access" in a more direct and permanent fashion. How can this judge live with himself? He knows the man is a pedophile, yet he's sending children to him! Gift-wrapping his next victims! What next, restore his kiddie porn?

Also,

The eldest girl told counsellors she "did not want to spend time alone with her father" and kept repeating: "Please don't tell dad."

Nice going, reporter! Way to make sure Dad finds out.

These girls are going to (rightly) have no faith in society and are probably going to have a tonne of trouble adjusting as they grow up... but hey, the world needs strippers, huh?

Christ almighty.
 
2010-03-14 04:17:48 PM
Bullshiat, I say we dress the judge up like a little girl and let him sleep over with "dad" on the weekends.
 
2010-03-14 06:26:12 PM
that's some good judging there, Lou
 
2010-03-14 06:28:16 PM
Full text of the decision (new window, PDF!)
 
2010-03-14 06:29:08 PM
The facts to which the father admitted a plea of guilty to involved a video tape
which the father had filmed from web pages. The video tape was a recording
of various young girls, aged approximately 10 to 14 years, some were naked
and some were in bikinis, which the father had downloaded from child
pornographic web sites.


Well it sure is a good thing he won't be around any 10-14 year old girls anytime soon *facepalm*
 
2010-03-14 06:33:57 PM
Dr R interviewed both parents and the children; she observed the children with
the parents and interviewed the mother's present husband. Dr R concluded a
number of things about the father including:- 6
· The father engages the children in negative discussions about their
mother.
· There is a possibility that A may have received inappropriate sexual
attention from the father.

· That the children are at risk of psychological and emotional harm from
the father if he continues to engage with the children in inappropriate
conversations and questions.
· Some concerns about the mother influencing the children's feelings
towards the father.

66. Dr R formed the view, and I accept, that the father was likely to experience
poor impulse controls during times of high stress and high emotions. She bases
this upon his risk taking behaviours in the past such as his chronic marijuana
use and the downloading and copying of child pornography
. Dr R says that this
is evident in other ways in terms of his communications with his children, A in
particular.
67. Dr R undertook psychological testing and concluded that the father suffers
from "symptoms


oh ffs, what the hell was the judge thinking.
 
2010-03-14 06:55:43 PM
The blocks spell Daddy...
i283.photobucket.com
 
2010-03-14 07:31:31 PM
Years ago when I slept over at a girl's house I discovered that she lived in a similar situation.

Couldn't believe that it was legal for a pedo to live with one of his victims. There was no way in hell I would've gone to that sleepover if I had known that the adult in charge was a convicted rapist. Despite the series of strong locks we still barricaded the door from the inside. Seemed like a good idea since the outside of the door looked like it had taken beatings in the past.

No kid should have to live like that.
 
2010-03-14 07:42:29 PM
Whiskey
Tango
Foxtrot
 
2010-03-14 07:42:54 PM
That won't make that judge look stupid at all, ever....
 
2010-03-14 07:45:16 PM
Sounds like we could use a liberal activist judge in there to legislate from the bench instead of following the laws to the letter, eh?
 
2010-03-14 07:45:28 PM
What was this Judge smoking? And why wont he share?
 
2010-03-14 07:46:39 PM
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2010-03-14 07:46:45 PM
Sick! What the hell was the judge thinking? Even the poor kids themselves say they are afraid of this monster. I predict only tragedy can come from this, and I will put the blame squarely at the feet of this judge.
 
2010-03-14 07:46:47 PM
FTFA: He also created links and shortcuts to child porn sites.

So having 4chan in your browser history makes you a sex offender now?

/it probably should, actually.
 
2010-03-14 07:49:12 PM
Judge Pedobear stands by his decision.
nerdiest-kids.com
 
2010-03-14 07:49:13 PM
The family that lays together, stays together
 
2010-03-14 07:49:20 PM
Judge Benjamin said that the father, who was convicted of downloading child pornography, must have an "adult friend" stay with him when the girls stayed overnight.

I bet the judge thought this was a good thing. Let's see, 2 girls and a pedo father who has to bring along a friend when they are around. Gee, I wonder what might happen next.
 
2010-03-14 07:49:39 PM
The judge must be a pedophile too.
 
2010-03-14 07:50:50 PM
lennavan: Judge Benjamin said that the father, who was convicted of downloading child pornography, must have an "adult friend" stay with him when the girls stayed overnight.

I bet the judge thought this was a good thing. Let's see, 2 girls and a pedo father who has to bring along a friend when they are around. Gee, I wonder what might happen next.


Bow-chicka-bow-bow
 
2010-03-14 07:51:31 PM
penthesilea: Years ago when I slept over at a girl's house I discovered that she lived in a similar situation.

Couldn't believe that it was legal for a pedo to live with one of his victims. There was no way in hell I would've gone to that sleepover if I had known that the adult in charge was a convicted rapist. Despite the series of strong locks we still barricaded the door from the inside. Seemed like a good idea since the outside of the door looked like it had taken beatings in the past.

No kid should have to live like that.


Growing up I had a friend that was 2 years older than me. I remember being at his house one time when I was about 9-10 years old and seeing him lifted off the floor by his hair by his father (like 3 or 4 inches off the ground) for failing to take the trash out of the kitchen fast enough. Nothing sick in a sexual fashion but it still made me think, "WTF is wrong with this family."

Looking back on it now (and knowing it wasn't the only incident) my summary of the situation essentially equates to: THIS.
 
2010-03-14 07:51:40 PM
Having been in similar (but less serious) situations as a child, if this involved my daughters, I would take them and run like hell. Fark the law at this point, the safety of the kids gets priority.
 
2010-03-14 07:51:45 PM
So, do pedophiles have an overwhelming urge to fark every child they see, or would incest cross the line?
 
2010-03-14 07:52:44 PM
Helen_Arigby:
The eldest girl told counsellors she "did not want to spend time alone with her father" and kept repeating: "Please don't tell dad."

Nice going, reporter! Way to make sure Dad finds out.


That's not in the article. If it was and was later removed, maybe because it was a lie.

Unless he actually molested his children (which the family court, not criminal court believes, with a much lower burden of proof), I don't actually see a problem. Want to be safer, just require some other adult to be around at all times, like a relative on his family's side. A lock is the best judgement for the court based on the evidence of the case.
 
2010-03-14 07:54:04 PM
lennavan: Judge Benjamin said that the father, who was convicted of downloading child pornography, must have an "adult friend" stay with him when the girls stayed overnight.

I bet the judge thought this was a good thing. Let's see, 2 girls and a pedo father who has to bring along a friend when they are around. Gee, I wonder what might happen next.


Yeah, it's not like it is possible to network with your fellow pedophiles on the internet, or have a friend who's a pedophile. If this judge has a daughter, we should let her stay with him overnight and see how he feels about it. This father is a threat to his daughters, particularly at night. They should not spend the night with him. It might even be damaging for them to spend any time with them.
 
2010-03-14 07:56:23 PM
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2010-03-14 08:01:39 PM
gund: Unless he actually molested his children (which the family court, not criminal court believes, with a much lower burden of proof), I don't actually see a problem. Want to be safer, just require some other adult to be around at all times, like a relative on his family's side. A lock is the best judgement for the court based on the evidence of the case.

Because other adults don't sleep during the night and can be there to watch at all times? Do you really think it's a better situation to have the kids living with daddy who have to remember to lock the doors so daddy doesn't molest them? You don't have your own kids, do you? You'll change your stance when you do, I promise.

Fano: So, do pedophiles have an overwhelming urge to fark every child they see, or would incest cross the line?

Pedophiles have already crossed the line. You get this, right? Which is worse, incest or pedophilia? I'd rather fark my sister than a kid.

squirrel_magnolia: if this involved my daughters, I would take them and run like hell. Fark the law at this point, the safety of the kids gets priority.

For sure. If I'm ever on your jury, you've got my "not guilty" vote for sure =)
 
2010-03-14 08:02:31 PM
What the fark? At first I read the headline and figured it was someone who had gotten drunk and peed in public, but then I read the article.

If I was the mother, I would say fark the law. I would grab the girls and run, and never look back.

/seriously, something is wrong with that judge too
 
2010-03-14 08:02:47 PM
Meanwhile, the poor bastard convicted of taking a piss in an alley during Marti Gras can't live 5 miles from a school.
 
2010-03-14 08:03:16 PM
lennavan: Pedophiles have already crossed the line. You get this, right? Which is worse, incest or pedophilia? I'd rather fark my sister than a kid.

So you are saying that vice is not nice, incest is best?
 
2010-03-14 08:05:35 PM
gund

FTA...The Family Court found the father had invited one of the girls into his bed, and had "demonstrated affection toward her in a way that was, in all the circumstances, inappropriate for a child of that age".
 
2010-03-14 08:06:09 PM
penthesilea: Couldn't believe that it was legal for a pedo to live with one of his victims.

I can't believe that anyone inviting you into that situation with no warning is someone you'd consider a friend.
 
2010-03-14 08:06:34 PM
So, the question:

Does this judge also enjoy the occasional dip in an unspoiled paddling pool, or are he and daddy old friends?

Those are really the only two possibilities here.
 
2010-03-14 08:06:45 PM
After reading TFA, I'm feeling sick - I can't even imagine how it would be if those were my kids. I hope the mother currently has the kids at the airport and is buying tickets to someplace which takes a long time about extraditing. The kids are going to have a horrible experience no matter what; better to let them remember that Mom took them away from everything that was familiar than that she willingly handed them over to someone who the farking JUDGE said needed to be barred from them when they were sleeping.
 
2010-03-14 08:07:08 PM
HMS_Blinkin Quote 2010-03-14 07:46:47 PM
FTFA: He also created links and shortcuts to child porn sites.

So having 4chan in your browser history makes you a sex offender now?

/it probably should, actually.


Based on the pic 2 posts up from yours, this thread is beginning to look like 4chan.
 
2010-03-14 08:08:30 PM
i43.tinypic.com

Thought crime is srs bsns, citizen.
 
2010-03-14 08:08:56 PM
umm... i should have a citation for this but it is something like 7 in 10 are victims; that's just the girls. Sick.
 
2010-03-14 08:09:38 PM
penthesilea: No kid should have to live like that.

so being a totalfark cyber-stalker, I of course checked out your profile.
where I found this gem

GaryPDX: You do know there's an ignore feature on Fark, right?
PC LOAD LETTER: I wish I could quit you.


I cried, I laughed do hard.
you are my fark hero of the week.
 
2010-03-14 08:10:13 PM
gund: Helen_Arigby:
The eldest girl told counsellors she "did not want to spend time alone with her father" and kept repeating: "Please don't tell dad."

Nice going, reporter! Way to make sure Dad finds out.


That's not in the article. If it was and was later removed, maybe because it was a lie.

Unless he actually molested his children (which the family court, not criminal court believes, with a much lower burden of proof), I don't actually see a problem. Want to be safer, just require some other adult to be around at all times, like a relative on his family's side. A lock is the best judgement for the court based on the evidence of the case.


How about this -

At his own expense, dad has to hire an overnight security guard to stand post outside the girls' room. Said guard must be the parent of a child who was molested/raped/murdered by a pedo. Said guard must also be heavily armed. Said armament must also include castration tools and dull blades.

Then MAYBE I'd be okay with it. He'd still better have a really compelling reason why supervised daytime visits aren't enough.
 
2010-03-14 08:10:14 PM
MaritimeGirl: The judge must be a pedophile too.

I bet the judge sent him the pictures.
 
2010-03-14 08:10:31 PM
Bathia_Mapes: gund

FTA...The Family Court found the father had invited one of the girls into his bed, and had "demonstrated affection toward her in a way that was, in all the circumstances, inappropriate for a child of that age".


Learn to read (my post).
 
2010-03-14 08:10:50 PM
Fano: So, do pedophiles have an overwhelming urge to fark every child they see, or would incest cross the line?

images.contactmusic.com

Billy Maplewood: [sobbing] ... would you ever fark me?
Bill: No... I'd jerk off instead.

\wrong pic, best I can find
\\also hot as hell, not in that way pervert!
 
2010-03-14 08:10:51 PM
lennavan: Pedophiles have already crossed the line. You get this, right? Which is worse, incest or pedophilia? I'd rather fark my sister than a kid.

And if you're gay, you might as well fark a dog! Why not?
 
2010-03-14 08:10:55 PM
Yeah this is pretty farked up.

Sounds like a wife-kills-husband-to-protect-her-kids movie in the making.
 
2010-03-14 08:13:04 PM
zepplinrules: Yeah this is pretty farked up.

Sounds like a wife-kills-husband-to-protect-her-kids movie in the making.


This is pretty much assured.
 
2010-03-14 08:14:15 PM
Fano: lennavan: Pedophiles have already crossed the line. You get this, right? Which is worse, incest or pedophilia? I'd rather fark my sister than a kid.

So you are saying that vice is not nice, incest is best?



Thanx, you made me dig this out
i140.photobucket.com
 
2010-03-14 08:14:41 PM
lennavan: gund: Unless he actually molested his children (which the family court, not criminal court believes, with a much lower burden of proof), I don't actually see a problem. Want to be safer, just require some other adult to be around at all times, like a relative on his family's side. A lock is the best judgement for the court based on the evidence of the case.

Because other adults don't sleep during the night and can be there to watch at all times? Do you really think it's a better situation to have the kids living with daddy who have to remember to lock the doors so daddy doesn't molest them? You don't have your own kids, do you? You'll change your stance when you do, I promise.


1. They aren't living with them. They are visiting.
2. This is an argument for risk. Another adult, or lock, or whatever reduces risk differently.

You seem to be arguing no risk is acceptable, so I guess the only acceptable solution is the death penalty. Because he could you know, with legs and hands, actually visit said children and molest them. No appeals too, because he could escape from prison and molest them.

Some risks are acceptable. The court is there to evaluate and estimate the risk and provide solutions.

Are you one of those "but think of the children" crowd that has been screwing with the country?
 
2010-03-14 08:15:37 PM
i.telegraph.co.uk

APPROVES of the lock.
 
2010-03-14 08:16:06 PM
Evidently, based on reading the full text of the judge's "decision," a prior decision by some court or other is what the judge was "thinking" when he made his ruling:

The 'unacceptable risk' test is therefore the standard used by the Family Court to 'achieve a balance between the risk of detriment to the child from sexual abuse and the possibility of benefit to the child from parental access.'

I have never in my life seen or heard ANY judge or legal professional, even the most incest-denying freak, refer to damage by sexual abuse as a "detriment" to a child. This judge apparently feels--as do his Australian cronies--that it's preferable for children to spend time with their parents, even if one is an incestuous psycho whom they fear and despise, than protect them from a convicted pedophile.

Even the judge agreed the dad was probably a lying, manipulative scumbag (page 17, entries 71 - 75 et seq), but thought that his having a friend over, and the girls dressed would obviate the problem (p 31, 175).

But hey, if they survive this mess without committing suicide, they can always become hookers, right, Your Honor?
 
2010-03-14 08:17:13 PM
He's gonna fark them!

\Jesus, I love fark
\Never going to pay for total fark...that's just stupid
 
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