The Office Suck Now.


/getting that out of the way
//it's not that bad, but Erin/Andy is pure cancer.

FeedTheCollapse: //it's not that bad, but Erin/Andy is pure cancer.

Oh dear God, last week's episode was painful.

/and I love the show

I skipped over this headline before. Music tab with a headline beginning with "An interview with Creed" was enough to deflect my attention quickly.

2chris2: The Office was one of my favorite shows, for the first 4 seasons or whatever it was. The current season has completely gone to shiat.

I have mixed feelings about the show. Last season was farking utterly dire and this season is an obvious improvement. The show's still funny, but it's mixed with rather boneheaded storylines. The past few episodes have been pretty funny, yet also cringeworthy at the same time (see: the cancer that is Erin/Andy.). But yeah, the show's definitely directionless now. It's obvious that the writers have no foresight as it's obvious when they figure out that their storyarchs aren't going anywhere and they abruptly stop it.

joeyromeo: I like the fifth season more than either the fourth or sixth. "Stress Relief," "Lecture Circuit," "Crime Aid," and the six episodes detailing the rise and fall of the Michael Scott Paper Company?

that season was terrible, especially since Season 4 was probably their best season.Season 5 of the Office was probably one of the worst seasons of any show I consistently watch and enjoy. So many bad story-archs that just went nowhere and ended abruptly. And with Michael whining like a biatch every episode...

Master of the Flying Guillotine: Apart from being an uneven and directionless season, in season 5 it became obvious that the writers didn't know what to do with Pam anymore.

the whole Pam Going to Art School subplot was the first in a series of Subplots That Go Nowhere that plagued that season (see also: Michael Scott Paper Company, Holly, Jan being pregnant, etc.) Pam going to art school probably wouldn't have been all that interesting, but they introduced so many obvious plot setups (i.e. Pam's "friend") that basically just abruptly ended with "I quit art school". Maybe if there was a natural follow-through with ending the bad subplots rather than seeing an obvious point where the writers realised they didn't think the story all the way through an unceremoniously end the plot, it might work...

joeyromeo: What was so Go Nowhere about the Michael Scott Paper Company episodes?

maybe I should've field Michael Scott Paper Company under the Stupid Plot category instead. Especially since it required Pam to act completely counter to her normal character. That's not expanding the character, it's just bad writing. Pam should've known it was a bad idea.

I'm also sick of them forcing the idea that Michael Scott is some hotshot salesman, no matter how many times they have to spell out that plot detail. Considering he's a social retard, my guess is that Michael is the kind of salesman that can sell a lemon solely by leaving out pertinent information; which will only result in pissing off the client when they realise they purchased a lemon.


Either way, the MSPC wasn't nearly as funny as it should've been and just felt like a subplot that would basically die out after 3 episodes and never be referenced again. (Which was probably why I initially lumped it in with the Go Nowhere Plots. Did we ever hear from Jan again?)

ParadisePornoTheater: douchebag/hater: 'the iconic 1960s folk rock group the Grass Roots'?

I don't think the write knows what the word 'iconic' means...

Like Three Dog Night, the Grass Roots are underrated but not iconic. To be iconic, you have to have a stronger cultural impact.

I had to look him up...

Yeah, this guy was a member of the hitmaking, second version of the Grass Roots. He played on some pretty damn good songs.

drake113: Much as I love the Office, it should... no, deserves to end better than other shows that jumped the shark and continued numbly plowing forward for as many more seasons as they can eek out of the network.

I'd like that too, but it's gone well beyond that point now and it's been picked up for another season. I think at this point they just need to press the "big red button" (as Greg Daniels put it) and have them release the documentary as the season finale. Spend next season showing the aftermath of it and end the series.

I've said it once, I'll say it again: the last line of the show should have been Pam's "I'm sorry, what was the question?" at the end of season 3. At that point, everything was more or less wrapped up and it would have been a classy end to a great TV series instead of jumping the shark/kidnapping the pizza boy/driving into the lake.