Idaho and Utah are Mormon states. I dunno about the other two. Baptists? Southerners?

7of7: Baptists? Southerners?

Shotgun weddings, before the bump shows.

Based on my observations the last time I was in the land of my conception, bastardy is awlrite. Seems like my extended kin can't turn around twice without dropping a litter from some random trucker or meth dealer.

Family Values in the Bible Belt.

half the women in Connecticut, Massachusetts and the District of Columbia are age 28 or older at first marriage

Our wimminfolk gots careers.

Marry 'em off when they're young and foolish and poor. It's better than breaking their legs so they don't run away at the first opportunity.

Has somebody got that list of states ranked by IQs close to hand?

I'd like to compare that with the list of "early marriers".

I have a suspicion that there'd be some interesting correlations.

Never mind. Found one myself (not much of a correlation). The two late-marrying states mentioned are high IQ states and the four early marrying states are middling to low:

McDaniel's Estimated Average IQ Score by State

1. MASSACHUSETTS........................................104.3
2. NEW HAMPSHIRE........................................104.2
3. NORTH DAKOTA.........................................103.8
4. VERMONT..............................................103.8
5. MINNESOTA............................................103.7
6. MONTANA..............................................103.4
7. MAINE................................................103.4
8. IOWA.................................................103.2
9. CONNECTICUT..........................................103.1
10. WISCONSIN...........................................102.9
11. KANSAS..............................................102.8
12. SOUTH DAKOTA........................................102.8
13. NEW JERSEY..........................................102.8
14. WYOMING.............................................102.4
15. NEBRASKA............................................102.3
16. WASHINGTON..........................................101.9
17. VIRGINIA............................................101.9
18. OHIO................................................101.8
19. INDIANA.............................................101.7
20. COLORADO............................................101.6
21. PENNSYLVANIA........................................101.5
22. IDAHO...............................................101.4
23. OREGON..............................................101.2
24. UTAH................................................101.1
25. MISSOURI............................................101.0
26. NEW YORK............................................100.7
27. MICHIGAN............................................100.5
28. DELAWARE............................................100.4
29. NORTH CAROLINA......................................100.2
30. TEXAS...............................................100.0
31. ILLINOIS.............................................99.9
32. MARYLAND.............................................99.7
33. RHODE ISLAND.........................................99.5
34. KENTUCKY.............................................99.4
35. OKLAHOMA.............................................99.3
36. ALASKA...............................................99.0
37. WEST VIRGINIA........................................98.7
38. SOUTH CAROLINA.......................................98.4
39. FLORIDA..............................................98.4
40. GEORGIA..............................................98.0
41. TENNESSEE............................................97.7
42. ARKANSAS.............................................97.5
43. ARIZONA..............................................97.4
44. NEVADA...............................................96.5
45. ALABAMA..............................................95.7
46. NEW MEXICO...........................................95.7
47. HAWAII...............................................95.6
48. CALIFORNIA...........................................95.5
49. LOUISIANA............................................95.3
50. MISSISSIPPI..........................................94.2

EyeHateOnlineIdiots: it is amazing how quickly CorpGovMedia's propaganda is ingested and internalized by the proles, as evidenced by the groupthink here on the internet that holds that early marriage is a Bad Thing. Ooooh...they are gettin married early. How horrible!

The fact is that the culture of america has been molded to optimize profits for the corporate investors. Having women get married early and stay at home does little for corporate profits. These women tend not to go to college and take on student loan debt. Oooh! That's bad for corporate profits. These women do not get into the workplace as much, thus failing to increase the supply of labor to a degree that would tend to depress wages to the degree that CorpGovMedia would like. Oooh! That's bad.
So many bad things about getting married early and having kids.

/you may now return to your regularly scheduled groupthink regurgiation of CorpGovMedia memes

Remember folks. Women in the workplace and marrying later is all a corporate plot

lycanth: 7of7 -

Since I can read a map, and because I was paying attention during geography class, yes, Arkansas and Oklyhoma are both south of the Mason-Dixon line which qualifies them as "Southern states"

Typically "Southern states" refers to those states that are:

1) South of the Mason-Dixon line
2) Former members of the Confederacy

Oklahoma typically doesn't count, since it was simply "Indian Territory" at the time.

MONSTERTRUCK: Breedum' Young

brantgoose: 47. HAWAII...............................................95.6
48. CALIFORNIA...........................................95.5

Those two rankings are kind of crazy to me

SnakeLee: brantgoose: 47. HAWAII...............................................95.6
48. CALIFORNIA...........................................95.5

Those two rankings are kind of crazy to me

Two words, Pot.

brantgoose: 30. TEXAS...............................................100.0

Texas. Where our average is average.

24 is a young age to get married?

Epiphany: brantgoose: Marry 'em off when they're young and foolish and poor. It's better than breaking their legs so they don't run away at the first opportunity.

Has somebody got that list of states ranked by IQs close to hand?

I'd like to compare that with the list of "early marriers".

I have a suspicion that there'd be some interesting correlations.

I have a suspicion that retarded statements like yours will be the norm for this thread. 80 percent of the people in America are religious, so I'm thinking religion doesn't play as big of a part as you think it does in deciding who gets married or not.

I never mentioned religion, unlike several other people in the thread. I was talking straight IQs.

There's so many religious denominations and sects in America, not to mention churches of various social and economic status within each of them, that you wouldn't expect a very strong correlation between IQs at a state level--if anything, you'd have to look at congregations. The same is true, say, of a large religious group such as Roman Catholics. You'd expect Roman Catholics to be middling, near average because there are a lot of them. If you wanted to link IQ to marriage habits, you'd have to go control for socio-economic class or education, and that would sort out by parish, not by state.

I was thinking more along the lines of the maxim, "keep 'em ignorant, pregnant and barefoot".

Religion? Some particular sects maybe. Flaky, in it for the money, sects recruit college graduates and may even administer an IQ test. Low brow hillybilly sects may have more than their fair share of low IQs. But all in all, I was thinking along the lines of demographics pure and simple, not religion, and more in jest than in seriousness. It's hard to control for social effects, and marriage is a very complex social phenomenon which is pulled this way and that by many factors.

All in all, the comparison of IQs versus early marriage only tells us what we already know: professional, educated, intelligent women often marry later than farm girls and working class girls because it takes them longer to get an education, save for a home or a wedding, find a suitable mate, etc. It was that way even before women were taught to read. Rich girls shop around. Poor girls have limited choices and they do the best they can with the materiel that comes to hand. It works about the same either way, although early marriages are soonest broken, statistically speaking.

dwh1963: Interesting that the Fark Independents TM who condemn religious people for getting married at 24 would rather drink poison than condemn Mohammed, founder of Islam, for marrying a 6-year-old.


Impressive.

FTFA: ...Utah, which does not rank high for three-plus marriages...

I guess they're not counting all at the same time?