Joe Francis is the worst thing to ever come out of my high school. Even worse than LC.

I wonder how much of that is fees. I agree Joe Francis is a scumbag, but the IRS is far worse. They rack up fees if you're late, so that you end up paying far more than you originally owed. (And don't try to claim the fees are necessary because of inflation, either. I'm willing to bet they outpace inflation.) What's more, if you give a lot of money to charity, you'd better make sure you document it properly, or they'll go after you for money you no longer have. Just read up on Joe Louis. They're farking EVIL.

SnakeMan: I wonder how much of that is fees. I agree Joe Francis is a scumbag, but the IRS is far worse. They rack up fees if you're late, so that you end up paying far more than you originally owed. (And don't try to claim the fees are necessary because of inflation, either. I'm willing to bet they outpace inflation.) What's more, if you give a lot of money to charity, you'd better make sure you document it properly, or they'll go after you for money you no longer have. Just read up on Joe Louis. They're farking EVIL.

When was the last time Joe Francis used his money to keep the roads you use in good condition?

SnakeMan: I wonder how much of that is fees. I agree Joe Francis is a scumbag, but the IRS is far worse. They rack up fees if you're late, so that you end up paying far more than you originally owed. (And don't try to claim the fees are necessary because of inflation, either. I'm willing to bet they outpace inflation.) What's more, if you give a lot of money to charity, you'd better make sure you document it properly, or they'll go after you for money you no longer have. Just read up on Joe Louis. They're farking EVIL.

When you cheat the IRS, you cheat America and are stealing from your fellow citizens. It's a crime that should be treated and punished fully like the theft that it is. The more you've stolen, the greater the crime, the harder the time you should do. Same goes for welfare cheats.

Tenebreux: SnakeMan: I wonder how much of that is fees. I agree Joe Francis is a scumbag, but the IRS is far worse. They rack up fees if you're late, so that you end up paying far more than you originally owed. (And don't try to claim the fees are necessary because of inflation, either. I'm willing to bet they outpace inflation.) What's more, if you give a lot of money to charity, you'd better make sure you document it properly, or they'll go after you for money you no longer have. Just read up on Joe Louis. They're farking EVIL.

When was the last time Joe Francis used his money to keep the roads you use in good condition?

They're not in good condition anyway.

unyon: SnakeMan: I wonder how much of that is fees. I agree Joe Francis is a scumbag, but the IRS is far worse. They rack up fees if you're late, so that you end up paying far more than you originally owed. (And don't try to claim the fees are necessary because of inflation, either. I'm willing to bet they outpace inflation.) What's more, if you give a lot of money to charity, you'd better make sure you document it properly, or they'll go after you for money you no longer have. Just read up on Joe Louis. They're farking EVIL.

When you cheat the IRS, you cheat America and are stealing from your fellow citizens. It's a crime that should be treated and punished fully like the theft that it is. The more you've stolen, the greater the crime, the harder the time you should do. Same goes for welfare cheats.

Bull. Shiat. Have you noticed how shiatty the public schools, the roads, etc., are? Have you noticed how in debt cities across America are, to the point that they're cutting money for fire departments and emergency services? But don't blame the economy: cities like Los Angeles and New York were headed for bankruptcy anyway at the rate they were spending. The economy couldn't keep going up forever, yet they spent and spent as if they thought it would. Given all this, how could they not eventually end up drowning in debt and unable to fund the most basic services?

Meanwhile, government union workers at all levels continue to get generous healthcare benefits and retirement packages. It's the truth! So much money is spent on THEM, and mark my words, it's only going to increase as more and more of them retire and more of them are hired. Have you looked into how hard it is to fire a government union worker? The more that are added to the payroll (and yes, governments across the nation continue to hire), the more we're committing ourselves to spending enormous amounts on their benefits. This is going to sink us. Meanwhile, the actual services the government is supposed to provide are shiatty and underfunded. Coincidence?

Is this what I'm paying taxes for? To keep government union workers employed and with fat pensions and healthcare benefits, while the unemployment rate in the private sector goes up and up and our basic services get crappier and crappier? Don't you see that hardly any of our tax money goes to real services?! Don't you see that the government is effectively stealing from us to feed its workers?! I don't advocate tax evasion or breaking any laws, but goddammit, something must be done to stop this madness!

And before you mention Iraq and Afghanistan: while I think the way the government fouled up the invasion and subsequent occupation of those nations is criminal, don't fool yourselves. The amount we will spend on those countries in the decades to come is a pittance compared to what we're expected to spend on Medicare and Social Security in the near future. We're talking tens of trillions of dollars on those programs alone. You could gut the entire Defense Department budget and the country would still be headed for bankruptcy. Sorry, doves, but you can't blame the wars.

In summation: government union workers and collectors of Medicare and Social Security will kill this country. Add the war prosecutors if you like, but if we had run the war on terrorism properly, it wouldn't have cost us nearly as much money. Don't blame hawkishness. George W. Bush was a giant pussy with his obsession with bringing freedom to people who had no concept of it.

As much as Joe Francis may be a complete tool, he did bless us with tons of hot amateur co-eds doing NSFW things. I won't feel sorry for him...I'm sure he has the ability to pay $29 million.