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(AZCentral) Strange Flagstaff, Arizona has gotten more snow this winter than Anchorage, Alaska, and Buffalo, N.Y., combined   (azcentral.com) divider line 127
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2010-03-12 06:44:31 PM
THIS IS PROOF THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS A LIE!

/oblig
 
2010-03-12 06:52:32 PM
Flagstaff is at an elevation of around 7000 feet. It gets quite a bit of snow most winters. How is this news?
 
2010-03-12 07:03:29 PM
cue the warmgarbl
 
2010-03-12 07:03:49 PM
Temperature inversion.
 
2010-03-12 07:04:48 PM
Gilligann: THIS IS PROOF THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS A LIE!

/oblig


THIS IS PROOF THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS TRUE!

/also oblig
 
2010-03-12 07:05:04 PM
People probably think that all of Arizona is hot, because of Phoenix; not so.
 
2010-03-12 07:05:29 PM
Where's your god now?
 
2010-03-12 07:05:45 PM
SEE, FLAGSTAFF ARIZONA IS A FLAT AND UNFORGIVING DESERT. EVERY SQUARE INCH. AND SINCE IT IS AT THE SAME LATITUDE AS FLORIDA, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THIS IS WHARGARBLE

/cap lock, because i care.
 
2010-03-12 07:05:59 PM
Cyberluddite: Flagstaff is at an elevation of around 7000 feet. It gets quite a bit of snow most winters. How is this news?

I never knew that until now, so it's news to me.
 
2010-03-12 07:06:01 PM
But each of them probably got more than Vancouver.
 
2010-03-12 07:07:37 PM
Cyberluddite: Flagstaff is at an elevation of around 7000 feet. It gets quite a bit of snow most winters. How is this news?

Came to say this
 
2010-03-12 07:08:02 PM
davidphogan: Cyberluddite: Flagstaff is at an elevation of around 7000 feet. It gets quite a bit of snow most winters. How is this news?

I never knew that until now, so it's news to me.


It doesn't get THAT much snow ordinarily, however. Buffalo usually gets tons, if we are to believe the common perception.

And just so you know, don't just start running up in Flagstaff without preparing yourself. Holy sh*t, that place has no air. Stupid elevation.
 
2010-03-12 07:08:06 PM
Anyone getting more snow than Buffalo has my sympathy.

Unless they're in Alaska or Arizona, of course, in which case they deserve a hell of a lot worse than that.
 
2010-03-12 07:08:30 PM
In the summer of '72, they had a locust invasion. That was cool.
 
2010-03-12 07:09:00 PM
If they're lucky it'll run the illegals off.
 
2010-03-12 07:10:52 PM
ultraholland: cue the warmgarbl

I prefer Garblwarming
 
2010-03-12 07:11:33 PM
And yet when I was in AZ, the Snowbowl ski resort would go entire winters without opening / open for a token few weeks of skiing on rocks and shrubs because they weren't getting hardly any snow. Now that I'm gone it's snow city. Figures.

/was too lazy to drive out to Sunrise
 
2010-03-12 07:11:53 PM
Welcome to El Nino

/Spanish for "The Nino"
 
2010-03-12 07:11:59 PM
My buddy in Flagshaft, poverty with a view, is always mentioning the snow they are getting a couple days at a time. His place has piles of snow taller than his fencing with no room to move it anywhere all over town.
He thinks it is only double the past 10 years normal rate. I spose I could say the same in my area. have had more snow before is normal as well, but no one is writing any headlines.
 
2010-03-12 07:12:50 PM
japles: If they're lucky it'll run the illegals off.

but what if they somehow adapt? Then we'll be stuck with super illegals; damn near impossible to eradicate.
 
2010-03-12 07:13:46 PM
Or, you know, you could say "Anchorage and Buffalo have gotten a bit less than normal snowfall this year, while Flagstaff has gotten a bit more than normal," and avoid all the Chicken Little bullshiat.

\ Anchorage average = 70 inches
\\ Buffalo average = 93
\\\ Flagstaff average = 100
\\\\ Polluting the planet is still bad
| Won't someone think of the trees?
 
2010-03-12 07:13:58 PM
schief2: And yet when I was in AZ, the Snowbowl ski resort would go entire winters without opening / open for a token few weeks of skiing on rocks and shrubs because they weren't getting hardly any snow. Now that I'm gone it's snow city. Figures.

/was too lazy to drive out to Sunrise


Heh, heh, heh

/lives 45 minutes from Sunrise
 
2010-03-12 07:14:06 PM
Ugh. I hate Flagstaff.

Get stuck there every time we travel in any weather that might even remotely have a chance of possibly snowing just a little bit.

One year it was on fire. We still got stuck. Stick that in your global-warming pipe and smoke it.
 
2010-03-12 07:14:44 PM
Definately one of the wetter winters in my 15 years here in flagstaff... wouldn't trade our summers for anything though!!!
 
2010-03-12 07:15:49 PM
Global warming?? No, this is something that's happened on earth for many, many moons. The slowing of equatorial winds (known as El Nino) is sending all the moisture to the southern states of US. When equatorial winds speed up (La Nina), all the moisture heads for northern North America.
 
2010-03-12 07:15:59 PM
Arizona Snowbowl, 7 miles from Flagstaff, is a ski resort that has been open every year since 1938. It's peaks go to 11,500 feet.

The roads in north Arizona near the Grand Canyon are often closed during the winter to anyone that doesn't have 4WD and chains.

This isn't news. It's a geography lesson.
 
2010-03-12 07:17:33 PM
wont all that snow help your water supply issues out there a little bit? Or will Las Vegas try to siphon it off. I have friends out there who tell me how Las Vegas thinks they need all the water west of the Mississippi
 
2010-03-12 07:17:42 PM
Just stay the fark out of San Diego you goddamn Zonies.
 
2010-03-12 07:17:44 PM
Cyberluddite: Flagstaff is at an elevation of around 7000 feet. It gets quite a bit of snow most winters. How is this news?

The first time I visited the Grand Canyon, at age 40, I expected it to be surrounded by cactus and adobe.

Now I know the south rim is a pine forest at 8,000 ft. It was snowing in April.
 
2010-03-12 07:17:52 PM
Actually, things like this prove global warming even further. It's just the alleged 'scientists' have not given it a proper theory.

Here's the reason why "cold" in normal hot areas means "warming".

The polar caps are warming; or getting warmer via thin atmosphere/cow farts/-insert your theory here- not matter how solar radiation is getting in, and the warming of the ice via the suns radiation causes 'warm' air to rise off the ice into a normally sub zero sky.

When this warm air rises; warm air takes more 'space' than cold btw, the cold air is displaced and forced downward.

Hot rises, cold falls.

The displaced cold air then moves from the polar caps, towards the equator; middle of the earth that is normally warm, UNDER the warm air that is normally there.

That 'cold' front pushes; displaces, the warm air; which moves towards to polar caps with it's buddies, and poof.

Snow in the desert. I am not a scientist, however this is all that makes sense. IMHO

Your theories are welcomed.

p.s. DOn't get me wrong, the 'global warming' hype is nothing but a money cow, but the earth is changing.
 
2010-03-12 07:18:10 PM
Just be thankful that I chose not to regale you with my tiresome Flagstaff stories.
 
2010-03-12 07:18:37 PM
According to the official city website, the average annual snowfall in Flagstaff is over 8 feet (they have, like a ski area and everything there). According to TFA, this year they've had 11 feet. So I'm surprised you didn't submit this with the img1.fark.net tag.
 
2010-03-12 07:19:28 PM
Snow in Arizona? Unpossible!
www.electrongate.com
 
2010-03-12 07:19:36 PM
Last month if you count the tall mountains in Hawai'i, there was snow on the ground in all 50 States for the first time in history.

Also, it was colder in Texas than the warmest part of Antarctica.

Does this prove global warming is a hoax? No, it only proves weather follows random patterns, and if you roll the dice often enough you will get "boxcars" 3 times in a row, or "snake eyes" a comparable number of times, with random numbers the rest.

What it proves more than anything else is, people should not jump to conclusions about things they do not understand, or fall for an unproven hypothesis just because the speaker is glib and has good film clips.
 
2010-03-12 07:19:43 PM
There are palm trees thriving in Portland, Oregon.

Wheeeeee!
 
2010-03-12 07:21:10 PM
Winter Olympics in Flagstaff 2014?
 
2010-03-12 07:22:42 PM
simkatu: Arizona Snowbowl, 7 miles from Flagstaff, is a ski resort that has been open every year since 1938. It's peaks go to 11,500 feet.

The roads in north Arizona near the Grand Canyon are often closed during the winter to anyone that doesn't have 4WD and chains.

This isn't news. It's a geography lesson.


I posted this "news" about a week ago with a headline something like:

[ironic] Now that artificial snowmaking has been okayed by the Supreme Court, guess which city has more snow than Buffalo, NY?
 
2010-03-12 07:22:45 PM
It's almost as if those cities have exchanged climates or something like that. There's probably a more succinct way to say that.
 
2010-03-12 07:23:07 PM
We got more snow on the east coast than we've had in recorded history. The Great Lakes (due to the weather patterns which brought us the snow) got less. It all balances out.

/weather is not climate.
 
2010-03-12 07:23:55 PM
I used to drive through flagstaff a couple times a year.

I remember one time, I had bought some chips and an assortment of 'fun size' candy bars in phoenix for the drive north.

Get into flagstaff and i start hearing these loud popping sounds from the back seat. Freaked out until i realized that my fun-size candy bars were exploding.

And then i saw the bag of chips straining at it's seams, and pulled over so i could safely open it.

Good times.
 
2010-03-12 07:23:56 PM
This winter has been miserable. Atleast it's beautiful and sunny today.
/Flagsmash resident
 
2010-03-12 07:26:29 PM
jaytkay: The first time I visited the Grand Canyon, at age 40, I expected it to be surrounded by cactus and adobe.

Now I know the south rim is a pine forest at 8,000 ft. It was snowing in April.


And, of course, while the bottom of the canyon is only a few feet away on the horizontal plane, is over a mile lower in elevation (around 2100 feet), so the temperature extremes are unbelievable for two places that are almost exactly the same longitude and latitude. For example, the average high temperature in July is 84F at the South Rim, but 107F at the Colorado River directly below.
 
2010-03-12 07:26:43 PM
TedNigma: Actually, things like this prove global warming even further. It's just the alleged 'scientists' have not given it a proper theory.

Here's the reason why "cold" in normal hot areas means "warming".

The polar caps are warming; or getting warmer via thin atmosphere/cow farts/-insert your theory here- not matter how solar radiation is getting in, and the warming of the ice via the suns radiation causes 'warm' air to rise off the ice into a normally sub zero sky.

When this warm air rises; warm air takes more 'space' than cold btw, the cold air is displaced and forced downward.

Hot rises, cold falls.

The displaced cold air then moves from the polar caps, towards the equator; middle of the earth that is normally warm, UNDER the warm air that is normally there.

That 'cold' front pushes; displaces, the warm air; which moves towards to polar caps with it's buddies, and poof.

Snow in the desert. I am not a scientist, however this is all that makes sense. IMHO

Your theories are welcomed.

p.s. DOn't get me wrong, the 'global warming' hype is nothing but a money cow, but the earth is changing.


The Earth is Changing? No way never. That would never happen. But what do I know I just a southern living Pangaean.
 
2010-03-12 07:26:46 PM
But what's fun is taking the 2 hour or so drive from Flagstaff to Phoenix. I did one December and went from Flagstaff's 30 degrees and some flakes in the air to Phoenix's 70+ degrees at 10 pm or so. That's a fun change.
 
2010-03-12 07:29:56 PM
RoyBatty: simkatu: Arizona Snowbowl, 7 miles from Flagstaff, is a ski resort that has been open every year since 1938. It's peaks go to 11,500 feet.

The roads in north Arizona near the Grand Canyon are often closed during the winter to anyone that doesn't have 4WD and chains.

This isn't news. It's a geography lesson.

I posted this "news" about a week ago with a headline something like:

[ironic] Now that artificial snowmaking has been okayed by the Supreme Court, guess which city has more snow than Buffalo, NY?


A couple of drunken, native hobos were telling me before winter that the San Francisco peaks were going to have an incredible amount of snow because Snowbowl got the approval to use artificial snow.
/Lucky coincidence
//Refuses to give indian spirits credit
 
2010-03-12 07:32:01 PM
Marcus Aurelius: Anyone getting more snow than Buffalo has my sympathy.

Did you know Rochester and Syracuse get more annual snowfall than Buffalo? Buffalo just gets it all at once or maybe twice during large storms. It simply never stops snowing in 'Cuse.
 
2010-03-12 07:32:34 PM
IAmRight: But what's fun is taking the 2 hour or so drive from Flagstaff to Phoenix.

You could always fly.

/bet you'll fly all the way to the scene of the crash
//and beat the paramedics by half an hour.
 
2010-03-12 07:33:13 PM
But it's a dry heat here in arizona!
 
2010-03-12 07:35:35 PM
MichianaJerk: Almost died on snowy I40 out of Flagstaff in the beginning of 95. Did a 360 degree going downhill in a Caprice Classic without chains(going to LA to marry my penpal what would I need them for?). Came up short on a guardrail. Continued down hill where there was a UPS semi split open with tons of goodies. Was too shaken to loot it. Cool story bro.

When I was about 13 or so and on a cross-country Christmas vacation drive with my family, my parents and I spent three long days trapped in a crappy motel room in Flagstaff during a multi-day blizzard, unable to leave because the road was closed in both directions due to heavy snow.

I really like Flagstaff as it exists now and could certainly think of many worse places to be trapped these days, but back then (this was in the early 1970s--yes, I am old) it was kind of a run-down, boring, crappy old town. It's a nice place now, but not then. Plus, the town was full of other stranded motorists and the only vacant motel room we could find was way out on the edge of town by the railroad tracks rather than downtown, so there was nothing to do out there other than sit in the room and watch everything rattle around whenever a freight train went by right ourside out window, which they seemed to do about every 15 minutes or so. It was awful.
 
2010-03-12 07:37:19 PM
More importantly, none of it fell on me. Life is good without snow.
 
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