Gamer Grrrl: Mock26: Gamer Grrrl:
//I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt....to buy salt with. I might be wrong about that though.

Typo, perhaps?

Uh, no. But nice selective quoting.

Gamer Grrrl: //I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt, not money to buy salt with. I might be wrong about that though.

But you are still saying that the soldiers were given salt to buy salt with! At least that is the way that it reads to me (with or without "the money" part). Maybe I just need some coffee and bacon.

:-D

biffstallion: D. E. M. O. C. R. A. P. S S. U. C. K.

S.O. D.O. R.E.P.U.B.L.I.C.A.N.T.S!!!!

/seriously, both sides are guilty of monumental, titanic levels of stupidity from time to time

It would be interesting to see if Ortiz proposed that to help the insurance industry.

Then they could just deny your claims when they find you "consume too much salt".

Mock26:

Yeah, it's simple. DON'T EAT THERE!

These places are mandatory establishments. If you want something done about it, don't eat there. Encourage your friends to boycott these places as well.

STOP RELYING ON GOVERNMENT AND LAWS TO DICTATE YOUR EVERY MOVE IN LIFE!!!!

/God I hate people!!!
// Ban warning labels and legalize drugs... then hopefully the stupid people will die.

Weaver95: Mock26: Gamer Grrrl: Mock26: Gamer Grrrl:
//I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt....to buy salt with. I might be wrong about that though.

Typo, perhaps?

Uh, no. But nice selective quoting.

Gamer Grrrl: //I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt, not money to buy salt with. I might be wrong about that though.

But you are still saying that the soldiers were given salt to buy salt with! At least that is the way that it reads to me (with or without "the money" part). Maybe I just need some coffee and bacon.

:-D

where do you think the term 'salary' came from?

I am not doubting that they were paid with salt. Salt was, for centuries, more valuable than gold in many parts of the world. And I am not picking on/mocking Gamer Grrrl, but the wording of her statement just seems a bit off to me. It seems redundant to say that they were paid with salt but not money in order to buy salt. If they were paid with salt why would they have to buy salt? That would be like being paid in $1 bills and then going to the bank to exchange them for $1 bills.

In my Boobies to her I was wondering if she had meant to say something along the lines of "I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt, not money to buy food with."

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Gamer Grrrl, again, I am not attacking you! Just confused by the wording of your sentence. Please do not throw any giant d20s at me! Wait, on second thought, I could use some more of those for my D&D campaign, so please throw as many at me as you want!

:-D

I'd support a regulation requiring restaurants to post/list the amount of salt (and fat, etc.) in their dishes so people can make informed decisions.

That said, it's my farking decision.

I like salt.

When I cook at home I don't use salt 'cause my wife likes it a lot less than I do.

I can add my own at the table, if I feel the need.

Adding your own salt is healthier anyway, as you need less salt on your food to get the same flavour you'd get with salt in your food.

/healthy weight
//normal blood pressure

This is being done in the name of health care costs. If we get federal health insurance, that will give the government even more of an imprimatur to regulate and micromanage any activity that has any risk, no matter how slight, and any effect, no matter how tangential, on whether anyone seeks medical care.

New Jersey tried to ban runny eggs and classic Caesar salad. The City of New York wants to tax soda and outlaw salt. Bake sales are disappearing from schools around the country.

All in the name of "health care costs."

We're sliding down the slippery slope, folks. Regardless of whether this particular one actually passes, you can expect more ordinances and laws and regulations like this in the weeks and months and years to come.

Whoops... meant to say they are NOT madatory establishments.

I am not a huge fan of too much salt, but NO SALT?? Thats insane. I'm sorry, if you don't like high sodium foods then don't eat them. If you don't like high fat foods then don't eat them. Get some effing self control. You don't need the government to make your personal health decisions for you. This guy looks like he is retaining a little too much water. All his "issues" seem to be about regulating other peoples health and cell phone usage. Get an effing life.

Goldmaniac: Excellent Troll!!

I'm hoping you are a troll and not actually that stupid.

Salt is necesary
if you don't have hypertension or a few specific heart conditions, too much salt does not hurt you one bit.

So just because you like really salty food you think I should eat it? I said I add little salt in home cooking - one reason is that foods like cheese, sausage, or canned tomatoes already contain a fair amount of salt.

And yes you can build up a tolerance to the taste of salt which is why some people like large quantities of it. And restaurants and food processors tend to cater to these jaded palates.

At home, I keep some condensed soup for emergency quick lunches when I am home alone. If you look at the label is says something like "per serving Sodium %40 %DV" which sounds rather salty until you realize that one can claims to contain 2.5 servings. Which means that anybody who eats canned soup alone normally consumes the whole can and gets %100 of their salt in one shot.

To me the soup tastes somewhat salty but not too salty for me to eat. For me to find some dishes I've been served in restaurants too salty to eat means they have to be really loaded.

That restaurants and bars like to serve salty food because that drives up their profit from drink sales may also play a part in the equation.

I am not a troll, I just don't like the trend toward the assumption that every body likes overly salty food. Similar to soft drinks, which I rarely drink, but on the few occasions I do I get pissed when somebody assumes I want the diet version.

imprimere: Mock26:

Yeah, it's simple. DON'T EAT THERE!

These places are mandatory establishments. If you want something done about it, don't eat there. Encourage your friends to boycott these places as well.

STOP RELYING ON GOVERNMENT AND LAWS TO DICTATE YOUR EVERY MOVE IN LIFE!!!!

/God I hate people!!!
// Ban warning labels and legalize drugs... then hopefully the stupid people will die.

I do NOT support this bill! I JOKINGLY said I wanted the bill to pass because the backlash would be hilarious! You might want to read up on this thing called sarcasm, Then maybe you will get the joke! But, once again, I am against this bill.

As for my post about putting limits on the amount of salt in each dish I was merely stating that such a move would be a better alternative to a universal ban across the board. I did not say that it was still a good idea, only that it would be better than a universal ban.

/Thor I hate people who lack simple reading comprehension skills!!!

Garko: "SALT - The other WHITE POWDER..."

I thought this guy was just trolling but after reviewing some of his better work I believe he just hates NY and wanted everyone to leave. Some of his better ideas include:

this gem where EVERYONE gets an ignition interlock device

He is ok with you selling your organs for a tax writeoff

To all you skiers... enjoy your MANDATORY helmets

and wanted to create sex PERFORMER registry (yes the stripper registry)

So he's a pretty good example of nanny state politicians

Yes there are way more examples of his idiocy

Mock26: Weaver95: Mock26: Gamer Grrrl: Mock26: Gamer Grrrl:
//I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt....to buy salt with. I might be wrong about that though.

Typo, perhaps?

Uh, no. But nice selective quoting.

Gamer Grrrl: //I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt, not money to buy salt with. I might be wrong about that though.

But you are still saying that the soldiers were given salt to buy salt with! At least that is the way that it reads to me (with or without "the money" part). Maybe I just need some coffee and bacon.

:-D

where do you think the term 'salary' came from?

I am not doubting that they were paid with salt. Salt was, for centuries, more valuable than gold in many parts of the world. And I am not picking on/mocking Gamer Grrrl, but the wording of her statement just seems a bit off to me. It seems redundant to say that they were paid with salt but not money in order to buy salt. If they were paid with salt why would they have to buy salt? That would be like being paid in $1 bills and then going to the bank to exchange them for $1 bills.

In my Boobies to her I was wondering if she had meant to say something along the lines of "I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt, not money to buy food with."

=======================

Gamer Grrrl, again, I am not attacking you! Just confused by the wording of your sentence. Please do not throw any giant d20s at me! Wait, on second thought, I could use some more of those for my D&D campaign, so please throw as many at me as you want!

:-D

I read it as "They were not paid money to buy salt, they were just paid in salt."

HairBolus: Goldmaniac: Excellent Troll!!

I'm hoping you are a troll and not actually that stupid.

Salt is necesary
if you don't have hypertension or a few specific heart conditions, too much salt does not hurt you one bit.

So just because you like really salty food you think I should eat it? I said I add little salt in home cooking - one reason is that foods like cheese, sausage, or canned tomatoes already contain a fair amount of salt.

And yes you can build up a tolerance to the taste of salt which is why some people like large quantities of it. And restaurants and food processors tend to cater to these jaded palates.

At home, I keep some condensed soup for emergency quick lunches when I am home alone. If you look at the label is says something like "per serving Sodium %40 %DV" which sounds rather salty until you realize that one can claims to contain 2.5 servings. Which means that anybody who eats canned soup alone normally consumes the whole can and gets %100 of their salt in one shot.

To me the soup tastes somewhat salty but not too salty for me to eat. For me to find some dishes I've been served in restaurants too salty to eat means they have to be really loaded.

That restaurants and bars like to serve salty food because that drives up their profit from drink sales may also play a part in the equation.

I am not a troll, I just don't like the trend toward the assumption that every body likes overly salty food. Similar to soft drinks, which I rarely drink, but on the few occasions I do I get pissed when somebody assumes I want the diet version.

No. Don't eat it. No one is forcing you. But don't demand other people don't eat it.

Iam_digitusimpudicus: I thought this guy was just trolling but after reviewing some of his better work I believe he just hates NY and wanted everyone to leave. Some of his better ideas include:

this gem where EVERYONE gets an ignition interlock device

He is ok with you selling your organs for a tax writeoff

To all you skiers... enjoy your MANDATORY helmets

and wanted to create sex PERFORMER registry (yes the stripper registry)

So he's a pretty good example of nanny state politicians

Yes there are way more examples of his idiocy

Basically he needs to get his nose out of everyone else business.

The Yanks and Mets will be screwed without their sunflower seeds.

So..the nanny state the Dems want is launched by trying to make salt (of all things) illegal.

If they truly want to see what life would be like without salt....they should eat at my house!!!

OIVAY could I tell you stories.

EvilEgg: If you cook without using any salt, you're a horrible person and a bad cook.

OR MY WIFE!!!!

Mock26: imprimere: Mock26:

Yeah, it's simple. DON'T EAT THERE!

These places are mandatory establishments. If you want something done about it, don't eat there. Encourage your friends to boycott these places as well.

STOP RELYING ON GOVERNMENT AND LAWS TO DICTATE YOUR EVERY MOVE IN LIFE!!!!

/God I hate people!!!
// Ban warning labels and legalize drugs... then hopefully the stupid people will die.

I do NOT support this bill! I JOKINGLY said I wanted the bill to pass because the backlash would be hilarious! You might want to read up on this thing called sarcasm, Then maybe you will get the joke! But, once again, I am against this bill.

As for my post about putting limits on the amount of salt in each dish I was merely stating that such a move would be a better alternative to a universal ban across the board. I did not say that it was still a good idea, only that it would be better than a universal ban.

/Thor I hate people who lack simple reading comprehension skills!!!

Nice try douchebag! You said ---I think that something needs to be done about the sodium levels in these places
What part of that is implied sarcasm?

Now, unfortunately you got the brunt of my ire merely because I chose you as being one of the many to suggest that we impose ANY sort of government restrictions on establishments which can could simply avoid.

Ehcks: I read it as "They were not paid money to buy salt, they were just paid in salt."

Effectively this is what she was saying. Somebody had said something about Roman soldiers using their money to buy salt because it was important/valuable. Gamer Grrl was correcting, I do believe.

imprimere:

Now, unfortunately you got the brunt of my ire merely because I chose you as being one of the many to suggest that we impose ANY sort of government restrictions on establishments which can could simply avoid.

*which we can simply avoid*

/Damn, angry-me can't type

ace in your face: HairBolus: Goldmaniac: Excellent Troll!!

I'm hoping you are a troll and not actually that stupid.

Salt is necesary
if you don't have hypertension or a few specific heart conditions, too much salt does not hurt you one bit.

So just because you like really salty food you think I should eat it? I said I add little salt in home cooking - one reason is that foods like cheese, sausage, or canned tomatoes already contain a fair amount of salt.

And yes you can build up a tolerance to the taste of salt which is why some people like large quantities of it. And restaurants and food processors tend to cater to these jaded palates.

At home, I keep some condensed soup for emergency quick lunches when I am home alone. If you look at the label is says something like "per serving Sodium %40 %DV" which sounds rather salty until you realize that one can claims to contain 2.5 servings. Which means that anybody who eats canned soup alone normally consumes the whole can and gets %100 of their salt in one shot.

To me the soup tastes somewhat salty but not too salty for me to eat. For me to find some dishes I've been served in restaurants too salty to eat means they have to be really loaded.

That restaurants and bars like to serve salty food because that drives up their profit from drink sales may also play a part in the equation.

I am not a troll, I just don't like the trend toward the assumption that every body likes overly salty food. Similar to soft drinks, which I rarely drink, but on the few occasions I do I get pissed when somebody assumes I want the diet version.

No. Don't eat it. No one is forcing you. But don't demand other people don't eat it.

He sounds fat.

DirkTheDaring: /salty ham sketch from KITH

NEVER PUT SALT IN YOUR FOOD
PUT SALT IN YOUR FOOD
ALWAYS PUT SALT IN YOUR FOOD

/kill Danny

Mock26: I think that the creation of salted meats (such as corned beef) will be safe as that is generally not created in a restaurant by chefs.

If the deli you're going to doesn't make their own corned beef and pastrami, you should be going to a better deli.

Fark a Boar's Head.

ace in your face: No. Don't eat it. No one is forcing you. But don't demand other people don't eat it.

People can add as much salt to their food as they like with a salt shaker. I just hate visiting my sister and having her husband insist we go to a really great restaurant he knows and have it turn out to be a chain serving pre-prepared food with way too much salt. I guess I could quit visiting my sister or tell her fat ass husband that he is confusing having an educated palate with being a big eater, but that would not go over too well. Nor would screaming in the restaurant "If I wanted this damn much salt in my food I would like to shake it on myself".

SordidEuphemism: ace in your face: HairBolus: Goldmaniac: Excellent Troll!!

I'm hoping you are a troll and not actually that stupid.

Salt is necesary
if you don't have hypertension or a few specific heart conditions, too much salt does not hurt you one bit.

So just because you like really salty food you think I should eat it? I said I add little salt in home cooking - one reason is that foods like cheese, sausage, or canned tomatoes already contain a fair amount of salt.

And yes you can build up a tolerance to the taste of salt which is why some people like large quantities of it. And restaurants and food processors tend to cater to these jaded palates.

At home, I keep some condensed soup for emergency quick lunches when I am home alone. If you look at the label is says something like "per serving Sodium %40 %DV" which sounds rather salty until you realize that one can claims to contain 2.5 servings. Which means that anybody who eats canned soup alone normally consumes the whole can and gets %100 of their salt in one shot.

To me the soup tastes somewhat salty but not too salty for me to eat. For me to find some dishes I've been served in restaurants too salty to eat means they have to be really loaded.

That restaurants and bars like to serve salty food because that drives up their profit from drink sales may also play a part in the equation.

I am not a troll, I just don't like the trend toward the assumption that every body likes overly salty food. Similar to soft drinks, which I rarely drink, but on the few occasions I do I get pissed when somebody assumes I want the diet version.

No. Don't eat it. No one is forcing you. But don't demand other people don't eat it.

He sounds fat.

I prefer the taste of diet sodas so thats double the lols for me :)

HairBolus: ace in your face: No. Don't eat it. No one is forcing you. But don't demand other people don't eat it.

People can add as much salt to their food as they like with a salt shaker. I just hate visiting my sister and having her husband insist we go to a really great restaurant he knows and have it turn out to be a chain serving pre-prepared food with way too much salt. I guess I could quit visiting my sister or tell her fat ass husband that he is confusing having an educated palate with being a big eater, but that would not go over too well. Nor would screaming in the restaurant "If I wanted this damn much salt in my food I would like to shake it on myself".

Thats actually not how cooking (and especially baking) works. Sorry. I guess you should stay at home and cook your own food.

Ehcks: Mock26: Weaver95: Mock26: Gamer Grrrl: Mock26: Gamer Grrrl:
//I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt....to buy salt with. I might be wrong about that though.

Typo, perhaps?

Uh, no. But nice selective quoting.

Gamer Grrrl: //I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt, not money to buy salt with. I might be wrong about that though.

But you are still saying that the soldiers were given salt to buy salt with! At least that is the way that it reads to me (with or without "the money" part). Maybe I just need some coffee and bacon.

:-D

where do you think the term 'salary' came from?

I am not doubting that they were paid with salt. Salt was, for centuries, more valuable than gold in many parts of the world. And I am not picking on/mocking Gamer Grrrl, but the wording of her statement just seems a bit off to me. It seems redundant to say that they were paid with salt but not money in order to buy salt. If they were paid with salt why would they have to buy salt? That would be like being paid in $1 bills and then going to the bank to exchange them for $1 bills.

In my Boobies to her I was wondering if she had meant to say something along the lines of "I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt, not money to buy food with."

=======================

Gamer Grrrl, again, I am not attacking you! Just confused by the wording of your sentence. Please do not throw any giant d20s at me! Wait, on second thought, I could use some more of those for my D&D campaign, so please throw as many at me as you want!

:-D

I read it as "They were not paid money to buy salt, they were just paid in salt."

As I said in another post I probably just need coffee!

Everyone else has dealt with the stupidity of banning salt quite well, so I'll point out the ads at the right that are purposely made to look like articles. One says "Acai Berry Exposed (Official Test) Want to use Acai berry? Do not use. Read this warning now"

When you click on it, it is of course a glowing recommendation of acai for weight loss. They even went so far in the deception as to have fake comments below.fark you, NYDN, you are playing along with this scam. "Ooh look, it says it's an OFFICIAL test, it must be true." I hate places that use advertising that assumes their readers are idiot suckers.

Weaver95: Mock26:
Gamer Grrrl, again, I am not attacking you! Just confused by the wording of your sentence. Please do not throw any giant d20s at me! Wait, on second thought, I could use some more of those for my D&D campaign, so please throw as many at me as you want!

:-D

you sound like a rules lawyer.

Actually I am not a rules lawyer! I am a DM, but not a rules lawyer. I am very liberal in my readings of the rules. Sometimes my mind just reads things differently than intended and then I get hit with a selective case of teh stoopids.

HairBolus: I said I add little salt in home cooking

In fact, one of the biggest mistakes home cooks make is not adding enough salt. They're so afraid of it they don't put enough in and the food tastes like shiat and then they think they can't cook.

Enough salt is not that much, though. Most fine dining restaurants put almost too much in (for my tastes) in order to get maximum flavor out of the dish, and most processed foods, chain restaurants and fast food restaurants are way too salty for my liking. But I cook at home a lot and over the years I've reduced the amount of salt I use so that now I think I'm oversensitive to it. When I have people over for dinner, I don't go apeshiat if they salt the food, it's a matter of taste.

And I thought the NorCal hippies were bad.

Gamer Grrrl: ArkAngel: From a lifelong cook to the idiot in New York:

Salt isn't just a flavoring, it is a necessary ingredient to make a variety of foods edible. Breads need it to control yeast growth. Egg whites need it to stabilize when they are whipped. It helps brown meat. It is a preservative that helped people survive. It is important enough to human society the it is the origin of the word "salary", form the Latin "salarium", money given to Roman legionnaires to buy salt wit so they could survive. Gandhi, biatches, Gandhi.

THIS

/Why does restaurant food taste so good? Because Americans are afraid to salt their home-cooked meals appropriately because it's been drilled into our heads that salt is bad.
//I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt, not money to buy salt with. I might be wrong about that though.

It was Napoleon. The word salary comes from salt. He paid them in salt.

This is a stupid idea, and won't get far. However, a lot of canned foods, such as soups, have a lot more salt than necessary. People can add salt if they want, but it's not easy to remove salt. I don't think a law will have much effect.

SordidEuphemism: ace in your face: HairBolus:

Similar to soft drinks, which I rarely drink, but on the few occasions I do I get pissed when somebody assumes I want the diet version.

He sounds fat.

No, the problem happens when hanging out with fatties like my fat-ass brother-in-law who assumes that his sense of taste is supreme and everybody else does or really should like diet sodas and really salty food.

Encouraging cheap & cheerful chain restaurants to back off on the salt? Good idea. The last time I went to a Fridays, my food was too salty to finish. Which is why the last time I went to a Fridays was a year ago. And even then it was under semi-duress (road trip, friday, lent, taking the meat thing seriously, not many choices at that interstate exit)

Banning it? Moronic.

imprimere: Mock26: imprimere: Mock26:

Yeah, it's simple. DON'T EAT THERE!

These places are mandatory establishments. If you want something done about it, don't eat there. Encourage your friends to boycott these places as well.

STOP RELYING ON GOVERNMENT AND LAWS TO DICTATE YOUR EVERY MOVE IN LIFE!!!!

/God I hate people!!!
// Ban warning labels and legalize drugs... then hopefully the stupid people will die.

I do NOT support this bill! I JOKINGLY said I wanted the bill to pass because the backlash would be hilarious! You might want to read up on this thing called sarcasm, Then maybe you will get the joke! But, once again, I am against this bill.

As for my post about putting limits on the amount of salt in each dish I was merely stating that such a move would be a better alternative to a universal ban across the board. I did not say that it was still a good idea, only that it would be better than a universal ban.

/Thor I hate people who lack simple reading comprehension skills!!!

Nice try douchebag! You said ---I think that something needs to be done about the sodium levels in these places
What part of that is implied sarcasm?

Now, unfortunately you got the brunt of my ire merely because I chose you as being one of the many to suggest that we impose ANY sort of government restrictions on establishments which can could simply avoid.

Yes, I said that something needs to be done about the sodium levels in the foods at these places. But nowhere in that post did I say that I supported a ban.

Here is my entire post (minus a quote from Ortiz that is not relevant):

"The problem with this bill is that it is clearly intended for all of those fast good chain restaurants (such as Applebee's, T.G.I. Fridays, Outback Steakhouse, etc.) that are notorious for having over-salted dishes on their menus. (I forget the chain, but there was one children's dish that had 400% the daily recommended sodium amount for an adult!) But this bill will not have much of an impact on those places. So many of the dishes served in those places are either direct heat-and-serve or are made using prepackaged ingredients which results in mix-and-heat-and-serve. And those foods are already salted! The bill does NOT say anything about pre-salted ingredients. It says that the no owner/operator shall "SHALL USE SALT IN ANY FORM IN THE PREPARATION OF ANY FOOD." That is so farking vague as to be laughable at how easy it would be to get around it! I think that something needs to be done about the sodium levels in these places, but a ban across the board is not the answer, because the ban will hurt restaurants with trained chefs, chefs who for the most part know more about the proper sodium levels than do the customers they are serving. All this bill is going to do is hurt non-chain restaurants and make people more likely to put salt on their foods in uncontrolled portions. Because remember that the bill does NOT ban salt at the table! And when a customer gets a bland dish they are going to reach for the salt shaker and start pouring it on and most people are not going to know exactly how much salt they are dumping out and will more than likely oversalt as a result."

Please note that I never say that I am in favor of any type of a ban/legal limit on sodium levels. I do think that something needs to be done, but I do not know what. Maybe better educating the owners of these chain restaurants? I do not know. I do think that the ultimate responsibility is on the individual, but I also think that the restaurants should work to provide healthier meals to people. I do not want all healthy foods (because Thor knows I love my bacon-double cheeseburger with cheese fries!) but I think if these places tried harder to be healthier that they would be more successful.

As for my sarcasm, that was in this post, which was earlier in the thread:

"I so want this to pass! The kerfuffle that it would cause would be Oscar-worthy entertainment! Oh, please, Ceres, let this law pass!

And if it does pass I so want to see a picture of a restaurant with gallon-sized buckets of salt at every table with a measuring cup instead of a spoon for dolling it out onto the food!"

Now, in another post I did say that limiting salt levels in dishes would be a better alternative to a total ban, but again I did not say that I approved of the ban, only that if a ban were to be passed it would be better to put limits on salt levels in most dishes.

Just get someone to ship you some. It'll sustain you for quite some time.

poot_rootbeer: Mock26: I think that the creation of salted meats (such as corned beef) will be safe as that is generally not created in a restaurant by chefs.

If the deli you're going to doesn't make their own corned beef and pastrami, you should be going to a better deli.

Fark a Boar's Head.

Which is why I am so glad I live in Chicago!

HairBolus: SordidEuphemism: ace in your face: HairBolus:

Similar to soft drinks, which I rarely drink, but on the few occasions I do I get pissed when somebody assumes I want the diet version.

He sounds fat.

No, the problem happens when hanging out with fatties like my fat-ass brother-in-law who assumes that his sense of taste is supreme and everybody else does or really should like diet sodas and really salty food.

SO because you are too much of a pussy to stand up to your brother in law, or simply eat whatever you want, OR invite them over to your house for dinner, you would rather legislate something so everyone else is burdened for your shortcomings. You are such a gift to society.

Mock26: imprimere: Mock26: imprimere: Mock26:

Yeah, it's simple. DON'T EAT THERE!

These places are mandatory establishments. If you want something done about it, don't eat there. Encourage your friends to boycott these places as well.

STOP RELYING ON GOVERNMENT AND LAWS TO DICTATE YOUR EVERY MOVE IN LIFE!!!!

/God I hate people!!!
// Ban warning labels and legalize drugs... then hopefully the stupid people will die.

I do NOT support this bill! I JOKINGLY said I wanted the bill to pass because the backlash would be hilarious! You might want to read up on this thing called sarcasm, Then maybe you will get the joke! But, once again, I am against this bill.

As for my post about putting limits on the amount of salt in each dish I was merely stating that such a move would be a better alternative to a universal ban across the board. I did not say that it was still a good idea, only that it would be better than a universal ban.

/Thor I hate people who lack simple reading comprehension skills!!!

Nice try douchebag! You said ---I think that something needs to be done about the sodium levels in these places
What part of that is implied sarcasm?

Now, unfortunately you got the brunt of my ire merely because I chose you as being one of the many to suggest that we impose ANY sort of government restrictions on establishments which can could simply avoid.

Yes, I said that something needs to be done about the sodium levels in the foods at these places. But nowhere in that post did I say that I supported a ban.

Here is my entire post (minus a quote from Ortiz that is not relevant):

"The problem with this bill is that it is clearly intended for all of those fast good chain restaurants (such as Applebee's, T.G.I. Fridays, Outback Steakhouse, etc.) that are notorious for having over-salted dishes on their menus. (I forget the chain, but there was one children's dish that had 400% the daily recommended sodium amount for an adult!) But this bill will not have much of an impact on those places. So many of the dishes served in those places are either direct heat-and-serve or are made using prepackaged ingredients which results in mix-and-heat-and-serve. And those foods are already salted! The bill does NOT say anything about pre-salted ingredients. It says that the no owner/operator shall "SHALL USE SALT IN ANY FORM IN THE PREPARATION OF ANY FOOD." That is so farking vague as to be laughable at how easy it would be to get around it! I think that something needs to be done about the sodium levels in these places, but a ban across the board is not the answer, because the ban will hurt restaurants with trained chefs, chefs who for the most part know more about the proper sodium levels than do the customers they are serving. All this bill is going to do is hurt non-chain restaurants and make people more likely to put salt on their foods in uncontrolled portions. Because remember that the bill does NOT ban salt at the table! And when a customer gets a bland dish they are going to reach for the salt shaker and start pouring it on and most people are not going to know exactly how much salt they are dumping out and will more than likely oversalt as a result."

Please note that I never say that I am in favor of any type of a ban/legal limit on sodium levels. I do think that something needs to be done, but I do not know what. Maybe better educating the owners of these chain restaurants? I do not know. I do think that the ultimate responsibility is on the individual, but I also think that the restaurants should work to provide healthier meals to people. I do not want all healthy foods (because Thor knows I love my bacon-double cheeseburger with cheese fries!) but I think if these places tried harder to be healthier that they would be more successful.

As for my sarcasm, that was in this post, which was earlier in the thread:

"I so want this to pass! The kerfuffle that it would cause would be Oscar-worthy entertainment! Oh, please, Ceres, let this law pass!

And if it does pass I so want to see a picture of a restaurant with gallon-sized buckets of salt ...

I get that many people now a days get their food from restaurants, but I go out to a restaurant to INDULGE not to eat healthy. I eat healthy at home. Maybe people need to get back in touch with what an effing restaurant is FOR. It isn't your dining room.

If I jizz in a girl's mouth, in a restaurant, will I be fined $1,000?

Paris1127: Every time I think Illinois has the stupidest politicians, I can look to New York and realize it's not ALL bad here...

California ftw!