simpsonfan: We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.

Any restaurant with this sign posted should tell him to eat elsewhere.

He's a politician, so obviously he feels that such silly laws do not apply to him.

I wonder how long it will be until he gets the first envelope containing a "suspicious white powder" in the mail.

First they came for my salt, and I said nothing....
No, wait, I must say something:
This guy is a fecking moron and he can have my salt when he prys it from my cold, dead fingers.

I so want this to pass! The kerfuffle that it would cause would be Oscar-worthy entertainment! Oh, please, Ceres, let this law pass!

And if it does pass I so want to see a picture of a restaurant with gallon-sized buckets of salt at every table with a measuring cup instead of a spoon for dolling it out onto the food!

I think he spelt "sugar" wrong.

Gamer Grrrl:
//I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt....to buy salt with. I might be wrong about that though.

Typo, perhaps?

Kevinnap: First they came for my salt, and I said nothing....
No, wait, I must say something:
This guy is a fecking moron and he can have my salt when he prys it from my cold, dead fingers.

I meant pries, not prys.
Farking Nyquil.

Pench: "salt is bad for you and hence illegal"

Another prediction from Demolition Man has come true...

[A]ccording to Cocteau's plan, I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal?



//we need our Edgar.

Pench: "salt is bad for you and hence illegal"

Another prediction from Demolition Man has come true...

Leaving satisfied

trappedspirit: I thought it was cornered beef?

What cornered beef might look like:

I went to his website and told him the real danger isn't salt, it is the high level of Dihydrogen Monoxide found on Manhattan and in the surrounding area. If he is stupid enough to ban our main source of Iodine, then he is stupid enough to fight anything scary sounding.


(It might be worth checking into his involvement with the Pharma and Vitamin industry. Humans/animals have to have Iodine and if it isn't available in salt it will have to come in a pill bottle...)

Delicious Toll House Cookies, I will miss you most of all...


Ingredients
2 1/4 cups all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon baking soda
1 teaspoon salt
1 cup (2 sticks) butter, softened
3/4 cup granulated sugar
3/4 cup packed brown sugar
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
2 large eggs
2 cups (12-oz. pkg.) NESTLÉ® TOLL HOUSE® Semi-Sweet Chocolate Morsels
1 cup chopped nuts

The tears shed will be real, salty, but real

This will not work. People in New York depend on restaurant food for survival. If I can't get my tasty falafel, lo mein, enchiladas, or grandma style pizza, I will die much sooner than I would from any long term salt ingestion. Please, please think of the takeout.

The actual bill in question.

I think that the creation of salted meats (such as corned beef) will be safe as that is generally not created in a restaurant by chefs. The sale of salty meats and such (such as bacon!) should also be safe as those are already salted to begin with and the bill does not prohibit the use of pre-salted items.

(Not supporting this bill, other than hoping it passes because of the high hilarity factor!, just playing a little bit of devil's advocate.)

I already see a loophole in this law. It states that the owner or operator can use salt in the preparation of food. Just don't leave the owner or operator in the kitchen, therefore they will not use the salt, the chef will.

Mock26: Gamer Grrrl:
//I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt....to buy salt with. I might be wrong about that though.

Typo, perhaps?

Uh, no. But nice selective quoting.

Gamer Grrrl: //I think Roman soldiers were actually given salt, not money to buy salt with. I might be wrong about that though.

HumbleGenius: Phineas: Liberals trying to limit personal freedoms? That's unpossible!

I'm pretty sure people will be free to keep a salt shaker in their purse or pocket.

I never salt my food once it has been prepared. It does not take as much salt to get flavor when preparing food as it does to achieve that flavor after it has been cooked. Try getting pasta or rice flavored after cooking it without salt. Almost impossible.

"No owner or operator of a restaurant in this state shall use salt in any form in the preparation of any food"

This a--hole doesn't even know how to write a bill that does what he wants. Technically speaking, even if the law passed, it only prohibits the "owner or operator" of a restaurant from using salt. It doesn't prohibit a chef, assistant, janitor, etc., from using it to prepare food.

You humans use far too much salt. I consider myself to be on a salt-free diet, but even I get some salt into me. We need it. Now, the amount of salt in processed, Chinese, and fast food is criminal. You have to be stupid to eat those foods. If you're stupid, you need to be educated. Better education is the answer, not more laws.

HumbleGenius: You're right, concealed salt could be dangerous. Better to just strap a salt lick to your belt.



Agrees

/ may also contain iron, potassium and magnesium

JohnCarter: Delicious Toll House Cookies, I will miss you most of all...


Ingredients
2 1/4 cups all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon baking soda
1 teaspoon salt
1 cup (2 sticks) butter, softened
3/4 cup granulated sugar
3/4 cup packed brown sugar
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
2 large eggs
2 cups (12-oz. pkg.) NESTLÉ® TOLL HOUSE® Semi-Sweet Chocolate Morsels
1 cup chopped nuts

The tears shed will be real, salty, but real

Add 1 3.4oz package of vanilla instant pudding to that recipe and you get something close to my homemade chocolate chip cookie recipe. Or use chocolate pudding if you want chocolate chocolate chip cookies.

/my recipe doubles everything
//adds 3 tsp vanilla extract
///makes a SHIATLOAD of cookies though

Olmy's Jart:

Agrees

/ may also contain iron, potassium and magnesium

Mmmm... can I have that when he's done?

Putting the NY in "Nanny State" since whenever their cellphone ban went into effect

More proof that our nation is languishing in science and biology education. And to think, he is an elected official which means he is at least one of the more capable people in his district. Think of how dumb that district must be to have this guy as their rep.

Ah Brooklyn, you have about 5 or six nice blocks and the rest is garbage.

HairBolus: I have had food served to me at restaurants that has been too salty to eat. If I want really salty food then that is what the salt shakers at the table are for.

I cook a lot at home and prepare a lot of dishes that contain no added salt - though a few dishes such as pasta (with salt in the boiling water) or french fries really do seem to need salt.

Salt appears to be a substance that you can develop a tolerance to such that your perception of saltiness depends upon how much you are used to.

Alton Brown uses way too much salt, but I guess that is what he is used to.

Excellent Troll!!

I'm hoping you are a troll and not actually that stupid.

Salt is necesary
if you don't have hypertension or a few specific heart conditions, too much salt does not hurt you one bit.
The first item farmers put in a livestock pen is a salt lick. IF salt was bad, these animals would suffer and the farmer would lose money. They don't. everything is fine.

\ yes, I think i fell for a troll

Just imagine the potential outcome if this {voice="stimpy"} eiiiiiidooot {/voice} lawmaker happened to stumble upon the Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division (new window)

He would try to have DHMO removed from all restaurants, public schools, and all households!

FormlessOne: Except that salt is not only good for you, but actually necessary.

Too much salt can be bad for you - but so can too much water, too much air, too much sun, too much food, etc., etc.

With all due respect, Felix Ortiz is an idiot.

FTFY

radioman_: You humans use far too much salt. I consider myself to be on a salt-free diet, but even I get some salt into me. We need it. Now, the amount of salt in processed, Chinese, and fast food is criminal. You have to be stupid to eat those foods. If you're stupid, you need to be educated. Better education is the answer, not more laws.

You sound bland.

PROHIBITION ON SALT; RESTAURANTS. NO OWNER OR OPERATOR OF A RESTAURANT IN THIS STATE SHALL USE SALT IN ANY FORM IN THE PREPARATION OF ANY FOOD FOR CONSUMPTION BY CUSTOMERS OF SUCH RESTAURANT, INCLUDING FOOD PREPARED TO BE CONSUMED ON THE PREMISES OF SUCH RESTAURANT OR OFF OF SUCH PREMISES.

So no Sodium Chloride? Ridiculous, but whatever.
Also no Sodium Bicarbonate, Potassium Bicarbonate, Potassium Sorbate, blah blah..

Thanks for letting me know that our elected officials never went to high school, or at least skipped out on chemistry, physics, biology, and home economics.

I'm on a 0 salt diet, so I'm getting a kick out of *hrk*

il Dottore: I went to his website and told him the real danger isn't salt, it is the high level of Dihydrogen Monoxide found on Manhattan and in the surrounding area. If he is stupid enough to ban our main source of Iodine, then he is stupid enough to fight anything scary sounding.


My apologies. I didn't see your post. My eyes may have been blinded by rage (or hypertension due to my elevated salt intake)

Stupid, uninformed bill.

Salt may help some cooking processes, but the quantities used go well beyond what is needed. I grew up in a home that used a low sodium diet. Dishes with a little salt added can be tastier than none, true... but many restaurant dishes overwhelm my taste buds with disgusting amounts of salt. It's nasty, and I should send dishes back, but what are they going to do? Remove the salt they already tossed into my food? More likely they'll add something else.

I think the move to lower levels of salt in cooking should begin at the food producer stage, not the restaurant. If less salt is included in your green beans, your cereal, your cookies, your taste will adjust. Don't scream about blandness, as your salt-addled tongue will tell you. You'll stop noticing the lack of salt, trust me. As for restaurants, don't heap salt into your dishes. It tastes foul, and there is a reason for the salt shaker on the table. If I want to Add Power to my taste, there it is.

Barakku: I'm on a 0 salt diet, so I'm getting a kick out of *hrk*

Sucks to be you. :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Mock26/Fark/PretzelApproval.jpg

Approves / Does not approve

Homemade Soft Pretzels
Ingredients:
1 1/2 cups warm (110 to 115 degrees F) water
1 tablespoon sugar
2 teaspoons kosher salt
1 package active dry yeast
22 ounces all-purpose flour, approximately 4 1/2 cups
2 ounces unsalted butter, melted
Vegetable oil, for pan
10 cups water
2/3 cup baking soda*
1 large egg yolk beaten with 1 tablespoon water
Pretzel salt

*No pretzels for you!

And I wonder how this would affect the act of Kashering foods? (making them kosher)
Salt is used to draw out the blood from the meat, and is then rinsed away. If a butcher sold anything cooked on premise, could they be fined for being kosher?

/Jewish
//don't keep kosher
///loves me some bacon

"Ortiz believes that, by putting the control of the sodium intake amount into the customer's hands, it would give them an option to exercise a healthier diet and healthier lifestyle."

The problem with this bill is that it is clearly intended for all of those fast good chain restaurants (such as Applebee's, T.G.I. Fridays, Outback Steakhouse, etc.) that are notorious for having over-salted dishes on their menus. (I forget the chain, but there was one children's dish that had 400% the daily recommended sodium amount for an adult!) But this bill will not have much of an impact on those places. So many of the dishes served in those places are either direct heat-and-serve or are made using prepackaged ingredients which results in mix-and-heat-and-serve. And those foods are already salted! The bill does NOT say anything about pre-salted ingredients. It says that the no owner/operator shall "SHALL USE SALT IN ANY FORM IN THE PREPARATION OF ANY FOOD." That is so farking vague as to be laughable at how easy it would be to get around it! I think that something needs to be done about the sodium levels in these places, but a ban across the board is not the answer, because the ban will hurt restaurants with trained chefs, chefs who for the most part know more about the proper sodium levels than do the customers they are serving. All this bill is going to do is hurt non-chain restaurants and make people more likely to put salt on their foods in uncontrolled portions. Because remember that the bill does NOT ban salt at the table! And when a customer gets a bland dish they are going to reach for the salt shaker and start pouring it on and most people are not going to know exactly how much salt they are dumping out and will more than likely oversalt as a result.

D. E. M. O. C. R. A. P. S S. U. C. K.

Eddie Adams from Torrance: "No owner or operator of a restaurant in this state shall use salt in any form in the preparation of any food," the bill reads.


I think it's safe to say that this isn't the stupidest law in the history of stupid, but it might be in the top 10.

are you sure? it could be the stupidest. the only ban that might top a salt would be a ban on water? water is dangerous stuff. after all, water if inhaled can be fatal, is found in cancerous tumors, can cause severe burns, and more...

has he never cooked a single meal or baked a single cookie in his life? one time in a kitchen and perhaps he would understand the world a little better.

/old joke is old
//but the salt ban is about as dumb

this law brought to you by DEMOCRATS
Expect more, similar
Did you see that Obama wants to ban FISHING??

he wont stop until we are ALL unemployed

Cerberus: Stupid, uninformed bill.

Salt may help some cooking processes, but the quantities used go well beyond what is needed. I grew up in a home that used a low sodium diet. Dishes with a little salt added can be tastier than none, true... but many restaurant dishes overwhelm my taste buds with disgusting amounts of salt. It's nasty, and I should send dishes back, but what are they going to do? Remove the salt they already tossed into my food? More likely they'll add something else.

I think the move to lower levels of salt in cooking should begin at the food producer stage, not the restaurant. If less salt is included in your green beans, your cereal, your cookies, your taste will adjust. Don't scream about blandness, as your salt-addled tongue will tell you. You'll stop noticing the lack of salt, trust me. As for restaurants, don't heap salt into your dishes. It tastes foul, and there is a reason for the salt shaker on the table. If I want to Add Power to my taste, there it is.

I think it depends on the restaurant. I have rarely had an over-salted dish at a restaurant. (That is, of course, excluding dishes that are supposed to be very salty, such as anchovy dishes or dishes that include lots of bacon. But those dishes generally do not have additional salt added to them. The ingredients are salty enough as it is.) My experience is that fast food restaurants and a lot of the national chain restaurants. Those places use lots of pre-packaged foods that are heavily salted. Such a salt-ban bill, if one is passed, needs to target places that have high sodium dishes. A universal ban across the board is simply stupid. A better solution would be to set a daily percent limit on dishes, with exceptions for a few dishes.