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2010-03-11 12:40:23 PM
Shatner's Bassoon: Thunderpipes: The man assassinated was a terrorist. Farkers and the world are displaying outrage over that.

Nope. They are displaying outrage over the fact that whoever did it forged other country's passports to carry out an extra-judicial execution. If Iran used the same tactic to assassinate the perpetrators of that suicide bombing they had a while back, you could bet that the countries who had their passports forged would be similarly pissed, and that you would be pissed along with them, instead of rushing to defend Iran because they killed a terrorist.


No. You are not all pissy pants because of the method. You use that as an excuse, as do most Farkers, because you hate Israel and support terrorists. Oh my god, they used a fake passport, the outrage!!

Get a goddamn grip and start being honest. They could have assassinated him with flowers and unicorns and you would find something else to be pissed about.

If someone in my neighborhood was launching rockets at the next town over and inviting retaliation from Shelbyville, I would kick their ass all over the place. That is the difference between good people and Palestinians. They don't police their own because they support terror.

Israel is acting in self defense for Christ's sake. Thousands of rocket attacks, and you think they should just take it. What a jerk you are.
 
2010-03-11 12:40:43 PM
God my punctuation is a crime in itself
 
2010-03-11 12:41:19 PM
spawn73: Fine I'll play along, I'll say that the presence of settlements with all that it entails lower the life quality of the Palestinians in the occupied West Bank.

Two things here, before i go do something fun.

Shin Bet: Separation fence fueling attacks by East Jerusalem Arabs

Also, this is topical to the settlements argument (pops).
In the current climate, Israel advocates are always going to lose a fight over settlements and occupation, or at best get mired in stalemate. BDS shifts the terrain....

....So they need to smear the messenger with wild mischaracterizations of BDS: that it is connected to Islamists, and that the campaign is well funded, and that it is linked to 9/11. Why not Saddam Hussein?

 
2010-03-11 12:41:51 PM
mrexcess: Tatsuma
Do you know what Mahmoud Abbas answered when he was offered this? fark all. He didn't even bother to say no, he just ignored Olmert.

Although I'm sure you've selected a completely fair and not at all cherry-picked list of highlights of the proposal, without seeing it in it's entirety it's difficult to assess how generous an offer it was, or what the problems with it may have been. Can you provide a citation?

Keep on blaming Israel, though.

When I think it's warranted, I will. HAMAS's terrorist actions are not Israel's fault, but neither are Israel's actions of territorial conquest the fault of HAMAS or other Palestinians.


"territorial conquest" again? We should have a goddamn sticky at the top of every post detailing the history of the region.
 
2010-03-11 12:43:25 PM
Thunderpipes
"territorial conquest" again?

Uhhh, yeah, that's what you call it when you invade land militarily and then start building civilian housing on it and treating it as your national territory. Conquest by warfare.
 
2010-03-11 12:46:50 PM
mrexcess: Thunderpipes
"territorial conquest" again?

Uhhh, yeah, that's what you call it when you invade land militarily and then start building civilian housing on it and treating it as your national territory. Conquest by warfare.


Holy crap, did you just say "invade land militarily"? Hehehhee. You have that reversed, dipshiat.
 
2010-03-11 12:57:20 PM
Thunderpipes: No. You are not all pissy pants because of the method. You use that as an excuse, as do most Farkers, because you hate Israel and support terrorists.

How can one simultaneously "hate Israel" and "support terrorists"?

/Oxymoronic
 
2010-03-11 12:59:37 PM
Tatsuma:

I answered your question as best as I could.

I find it really hard to define what a ruined life is, perhaps if you explain what exactly you mean then you could get an answer that was more to your suiting.

Your rant about Google is weird. Google is a fine instrument to locate information. Should you choose to use said information you of course have to consider the source, but all that Google did was to locate it for you.

Try telling one of your fellow students that they're dr.searchengine the next time they uses the universities resources to locate an article. It's the same.

I knew that there is a map of the West Bank with the settlements, ghettos, walls, segregation etc. So I used Google as a convenient mean of locating it to back up my argument and linked it to you. I am baffled as to what your problem with this is.
 
2010-03-11 01:05:08 PM
Ahh fark, where cognitive dissonance rules.

www.cbc.ca

What's wrong with a little humor at the expense of burned pigs?
 
2010-03-11 01:13:10 PM
Here's all this Canadian knows:

That country with a population of 1/5 of yours and those people with a population of 1/2 of yours are killing each other again.

Over a spit of land half the size of Prince Edward Island.

Oh, and it's not even productive land. It's mostly rock and desert. (as far as I know, anyway.)

Oh, and did we mention that both sides will get very VERY angry with you if you take sides or mention pretty well anything that might not fall in line with either one's point of view?

And yet...it's on my news, and all over my paper, and my internet.

It seems the only thing we can do is:

Stay out of it.

When I was a kid, and the world wasn't so farking complicated. I thought there was more than enough uninhabited land in this world to give each and every one of them so they didn't have to kill each other.

/sucks to be a hippie dreamer.
 
2010-03-11 01:21:37 PM
Thunderpipes:

Nope. They are displaying outrage over the fact that whoever did it forged other country's passports to carry out an extra-judicial execution. If Iran used the same tactic to assassinate the perpetrators of that suicide bombing they had a while back, you could bet that the countries who had their passports forged would be similarly pissed, and that you would be pissed along with them, instead of rushing to defend Iran because they killed a terrorist.

No. You are not all pissy pants because of the method. You use that as an excuse, as do most Farkers, because you hate Israel and support terrorists. Oh my god, they used a fake passport, the outrage!!

Get a goddamn grip and start being honest.


I was being honest. Seriously, I'm from one of the countries whose passports were forged. I don't care about the dude who was killed. The country I'm from has assassinated terrorists itself. I'm not at all concerned with that. I don't support terrorists. I don't hate Israel. I just don't like the methods they use and the fact that they think they can trample all over the sovereignty of other nations whenever they feel like it.

I don't care who the country is, if they feel they need to kill someone they shouldn't be forging our identity to do it!
 
2010-03-11 01:25:15 PM
SirMadness: It seems the only thing we can do is:

Stay out of it.



If it were only that simple.
 
2010-03-11 01:25:29 PM
binnster: Tatsuma: I suppose most people realize that it doesn't reflect to good on yourself to say you wish the Mossad hadn't killed him, so you have to latch on the fake passports used in order to attack Israel.

F*ck attacking Israel. It's not always about feeding your persecution complex. No country should go around forging another country's passports with impunity, and it's the height of arrogance to assume that you can and should be able to.


Every country in the world with a professional intelligence service fakes passports. It is pretty much espionage 101.

That is, of course, assuming that these countries whose passports where "forged" where not outright aiding Israel. In reality, no one really gives a shiat if some Hamas shiatbag dies. It is simply standard procedure to disavow any knowledge when something like that is compromised.
 
2010-03-11 01:27:51 PM
Tatsuma: Considering MI6 knew about the hit before it happened, and was fine with it, go whinge somewhere else.

Source please, because this almost certainly isn't true.

I know that the Daily Mail has claimed that a Mossad agent has claimed that MI6 were tipped off that Israelis agents were going to use faked British passports for an 'overseas operation', but even if that's true, it doesn't cover what you just said, and it certainly can't be claimed as a known fact like you just did.
 
2010-03-11 01:30:32 PM
Retarded Rabid Elk: Every country in the world with a professional intelligence service fakes passports. It is pretty much espionage 101.

So when agents get caught on fake passports what happens? Everyone says "that's fine old chap, we all do it, passports mean nothing"?
 
2010-03-11 01:42:14 PM
Toht: So, like the other guy said earlier...

Why did we kick Saddam out of Kuwait?


If you have bigger and stronger friends to kick your enemies out, then that works, too.
Japan would have been in possession of large chunks of China if not for outside assistance. Germany held lots of territory that would have been theirs if not for the combined efforts of other nations.
Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon ganged up on a tiny little sliver of a country, and got the living crap beat out of them. And despite their best efforts, haven't been able to get back what they lost.
And no-one seems willing to go to the trouble of helping them get it back through direct military conflict.
So, they lose.
Too bad Syria and Jordan. Too bad about your Golan Heights and the West Bank. Nope, not yours.
 
2010-03-11 01:49:13 PM
So jew boy, it's okay to build settlements and ignore what the international community thinks of it also? F#ck you Tats.
 
2010-03-11 01:56:16 PM
Thanks for the sponsorship, anonsponser!

gorbishof: So jew boy, it's okay to build settlements and ignore what the international community thinks of it also? F#ck you Tats.

"How dare you call me a racist, you farking kike!"
 
2010-03-11 01:57:15 PM
rockmeamadeus: Mishno:
I say the U.S. should withdraw all aid from Israel everywhere and promise it to the Palistinians if the Palestinians renounce violence. If Israel still fails to bargain in good faith and not rival North Korea in their intransigence, the family of nations should bring international sanctions againd them. until our budget is balanced and poverty is eradicated in the U.S.


This.
 
2010-03-11 02:01:23 PM
Farker T: Thunderpipes: No. You are not all pissy pants because of the method. You use that as an excuse, as do most Farkers, because you hate Israel and support terrorists.

How can one simultaneously "hate Israel" and "support terrorists"?

/Oxymoronic


Really? Talk to the OIC. That's their raison d'etre.
 
2010-03-11 02:29:51 PM
give me doughnuts: Farker T: Thunderpipes: No. You are not all pissy pants because of the method. You use that as an excuse, as do most Farkers, because you hate Israel and support terrorists.

How can one simultaneously "hate Israel" and "support terrorists"?

/Oxymoronic

Really? Talk to the OIC. That's their raison d'etre.


Just more hypocrisy. Israelis LOVE terrorists - provided that they're serving Israeli interests.

They celebrate the bombing of the King David Hotel, and elected its mastermind PRIME MINISTER.

nobelprize.org

AND Sheikh Jarrah Jews praise Baruch Goldstein on Purim

(Video) Residents of east Jerusalem neighborhood celebrate holiday with songs of praise for Cave of Patriarchs massacre. Left-wing activists plan protest
(new window)


Israel's standard MO is shameless oppression, threats and TERROR against its neighbors, especially against those forced to live under occupation.

Israel LOVES "terror". They just don't like when, on rare occasion, they happen to become the target.

Do you really think that no one sees your hypocrisy?
 
2010-03-11 02:29:54 PM
JEWS: Getting chased off other peoples' lawns since Adam and Eve.
 
2010-03-11 02:33:20 PM
antisemites, its ok when israel does it
 
2010-03-11 02:39:57 PM
this was probably done by the Mossad at the request of British/American/French politicians. Just like how Israel was pushed by the Imperial powers during the Suez crisis
 
2010-03-11 02:43:50 PM
binnster
Source please, because this almost certainly isn't true.

Would also be curious as to Tatsuma's source on this. As far as I know the only source for this claim is an accusation leveled by an unnamed Mossad agent as published in The Daily Mail, specifically that a vague courtesy warning was supplied to MI6 prior to the assassination.
 
2010-03-11 03:14:49 PM
Party Boy: I'm going to have to bookmark this lolfest to read for later.

Once you do you should look up the difference between a blockade and monitoring palestinian sailboats to avoid bringing in weapons for the Jihad(TM).

Kazuya: Outside your country the land is viewed as being occupied. Or stolen.

No, the palestinians consider all of Israel, sea to sea, as the occupation. Not the West Bank, all of it.
Your claim ("Well couldn't the Palestinians claim they only resorted to terrorism after they were attacked first? At least you admit it") is false. Arab (they didn't invent the palestinian nationality back then) terrorism predates the occupation.
 
2010-03-11 03:25:33 PM
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Why don't we see more advertisements with this in it? I'd buy my clothes at Wal Mart if only this was in the ads.
 
2010-03-11 03:28:34 PM
Farker T: Just more hypocrisy. Israelis LOVE terrorists - provided that they're serving Israeli interests.

They celebrate the bombing of the King David Hotel, and elected its mastermind PRIME MINISTER.


Celebrate ? in what way exactly ? the King David Hotel was a military target and i believe the civilians there were warned in advance.
the mastermind PRIME MINISTER signed a peace agreement with Egypt and agreed to return the strategically critical Sinai.

Farker T: AND Sheikh Jarrah Jews praise Baruch Goldstein on Purim

(Video) Residents of east Jerusalem neighborhood celebrate holiday with songs of praise for Cave of Patriarchs massacre. Left-wing activists plan protest (new window)


If you think those nutjobs are representative of all "israelis" than you are clueless.

Now compare that to Hamas, Iislamic Jihad, Al-Aqtsa Martyrs Brigade, PLO etc etc and if they represent the palestinians.
 
2010-03-11 03:32:12 PM
mrexcess: binnster
Source please, because this almost certainly isn't true.

Would also be curious as to Tatsuma's source on this. As far as I know the only source for this claim is an accusation leveled by an unnamed Mossad agent as published in The Daily Mail, specifically that a vague courtesy warning was supplied to MI6 prior to the assassination.


Tats has no moral compunction against lying if he feels it will serve interests of those he's interested in. Doesn't even seem to mind being caught cold.

Yet so many here continue to treat him as though he were rational.

Go figure.
 
2010-03-11 03:42:17 PM
Kazuya: Have you any response to the actual water outrages I posted other than this whine of petty criminality based on no evidence?

Do you know many natural springs in a middle of a road ?
What outrages ? based on palestinian sources i'm sure.
Care to specify which ones ?

Kazuya: Is that a joke? I'm really not sure...

So you find it surprising that palestinians use this sort of propaganda ?
 
2010-03-11 04:05:57 PM
"hitlersbrain 2010-03-11 10:46:07 AM
jpo2269: hitlersbrain 2010-03-11 09:16:08 AM
jpo2269: I predict someone will have a problem with this... Cue the outrage and anti-Israeli comments..

I would have no more problem with them than I do with any other terrorist state. If my country was not arming the pieces of shiat.

So you are Iranian, or would that be Persian?

No I meant the Israeli pieces of shiat. Those pieces of shiat that get high tech weapons from us and use them to blast unarmed civilians and claim it's a more legitimate form of terrorism because the pieces of shiat wear uniforms and stand behind armor given to them by the US.

THOSE pieces of shiat. Do you see which pieces of shiat I mean? I can explain further if need be."

Please do explain fuhrer, I mean further.
 
2010-03-11 04:12:46 PM
Farker T: A lot of people have made their peace with intellectual dishonesty in support of causes they believe are righteous.

It's more than lies. It's wearing blinders that obscure your own sight, and thus inevitably your own thinking, based on what you know you're supposed to be seeing.

A great example of that, found being trotted out in this very thread, are statements to the effect of "well, there has never been a Palestinian nation, they just used to be Arabs". None of that is actually *a lie* per se, because Palestinians were and indeed still are mostly Arabs, and as serfs who lived on territory belonging to the Ottoman Empire until it's collapse in the 20th century there never has been a nation for them. It's a statement that achieves semantic correctness without being bothered by the historical inaccuracy of overlooking the centuries-old distinct regional culture and the bonds formed through recent shared history that, regardless of any official recognition, has existed and united a people whose ancestors have resided in "Palestine" for time immemorial. Call it what you will, it is what it is.
 
2010-03-11 04:25:25 PM
mrexcess: has existed and united a people whose ancestors have resided in "Palestine" for time immemorial

This lie is one of the most common ones used to justify the modern idea of the palestinian nation.

Still a lie though. which is interesting because the palestinians admit it:
http://www.imninalu.net/myths-pals.htm
 
2010-03-11 04:37:20 PM
TappingTheVein: I touched briefly on the reasons for the absence of a Palestinian state in the historical record, specifically that as serfs of the Ottoman Empire the concept of modern nationhood simply did not exist for them, nor is it likely that they would have chosen it if it had have.

Only following the era of the British Mandate did the need become clear for international legal representation of the Arab and Christian communities that had called those communities their home for hundreds of years. There was much vying for control of this new constituency, among Arab states young and old and

None of this, repeat, none of this historical discussion ought to be used by anyone to try and obscure the fact that today we have on our hands a distinct and isolated culture we call Palestinians. And, I might add, one that under a quite believable, quite real existential threat from powerful extremist forces that oppose it's fundamental rights.
 
2010-03-11 04:38:48 PM
There was much vying for control of this new constituency, among Arab states young and old and

...with much interference and intrigue from external forces.
 
2010-03-11 04:51:39 PM
"The Palestinian people [do] not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa. While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan." (PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, March 31, 1977, interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw.)
 
2010-03-11 04:53:28 PM
i40.tinypic.com
 
2010-03-11 04:53:28 PM
give me doughnuts: Yeah but, regardless of what that guy said, the Palestinian people do indeed exist and have existed. Self-evidently, even. They're recognized by the United Nations. They recognize themselves. They have their own passports. This is such a stupid thing to even be arguing about.
 
2010-03-11 04:56:10 PM
mrexcess: They have their own passports.

So do people from The Conch Republic.
 
2010-03-11 04:59:16 PM
TappingTheVein: Farker T: Just more hypocrisy. Israelis LOVE terrorists - provided that they're serving Israeli interests.

TappingTheVein: They celebrate the bombing of the King David Hotel, and elected its mastermind PRIME MINISTER.

Celebrate ? in what way exactly ?


You really are shameless.

TimesOnline UK, July 20, 2006 (emphasis mine):

The rightwingers, including Binyamin Netanyahu, the former Prime Minister, are commemorating the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, the headquarters of British rule, that killed 92 people and helped to drive the British from Palestine.

They have erected a plaque outside the restored building, and are holding a two-day seminar with speeches and a tour of the hotel by one of the Jewish resistance fighters involved in the attack.
(new window)

Shameless.


TappingTheVein:the King David Hotel was a military target and i believe the civilians there were warned in advance.


A military target? WWII was OVER. Israel did not yet exist as a state, and even if it had, the Jews would have been attacking THE ALLIES.

The Pentagon could be seen as a "military target" as well. Do you deny that the attack on that structure was an act of terrorism?

As to the civilians, I wouldn't be surprised if the Jews, who pulled off the attack DRESSED AS ARABS warned their fellow Jews in advance.

Shameless.


TappingTheVein:the mastermind PRIME MINISTER signed a peace agreement with Egypt and agreed to return the strategically critical Sinai.


Which is relevant HOW???

Farker T: AND Sheikh Jarrah Jews praise Baruch Goldstein on Purim

(Video) Residents of east Jerusalem neighborhood celebrate holiday with songs of praise for Cave of Patriarchs massacre. Left-wing activists plan protest (new window)


TappingTheVein:If you think those nutjobs are representative of all "israelis" than you are clueless.


The fact that Israel (and it's supporters) TOLERATES this hypocritical bullshiat without LOUDLY and HARSHLY condemning it says everything, doesn't it?

People are not blind to your hypocrisy, but most don't say anything (at least for the moment) because they've been COWED into silence thanks to the campaign of political correctness that you and yours have so artfully waged over the last half century. How long do you think this will keep working?

The Brits were in Palestine for a reason: To fulfill their end of the deal made with Zionist interests during WWI - a deal known as the Balfour Declaration. Once the war was over, the Zionists were chomping at the bit to start their independent State. Apparently the Brits weren't leaving fast enough, and were too concerned with the welfare of the non-Jewish residents, so Irgun attacked with a TERRORIST BOMBING to give them the bum's rush.

Kind of set a precedent on how Israel would henceforth "thank" her friends and allies, didn't it?

Feel free to shamelessly play stupid the next time this issue comes up. I'll be more than happy to correct you again.
 
2010-03-11 04:59:47 PM
give me doughnuts: Call me when The Conch Republic gets UN Permanent Observer status, or a widely internationally recognized government with authority over the territory it's citizens inhabit.
 
2010-03-11 05:01:10 PM
give me doughnuts: mrexcess: They have their own passports.

So do people from The Conch Republic.


usc-currency.org
 
2010-03-11 05:05:09 PM
mrexcess: give me doughnuts: Yeah but, regardless of what that guy said, the Palestinian people do indeed exist and have existed. Self-evidently, even. They're recognized by the United Nations. They recognize themselves. They have their own passports. This is such a stupid thing to even be arguing about.

Saying that "Palestinians don't exist" makes it much easier to imprison, oppress, torture and murder them - it's as if they were imaginary creatures:

World: "Why are you doing this to those poor Palestinians?"

Israel: "Who? What's a Palestinian?"
 
2010-03-11 05:11:06 PM
Farker T
Saying that "Palestinians don't exist" makes it much easier to imprison, oppress, torture and murder them

I guess. :\
 
2010-03-11 05:13:41 PM
mrexcess: Farker T: A lot of people have made their peace with intellectual dishonesty in support of causes they believe are righteous.

It's more than lies. It's wearing blinders that obscure your own sight, and thus inevitably your own thinking, based on what you know you're supposed to be seeing.

A great example of that, found being trotted out in this very thread, are statements to the effect of "well, there has never been a Palestinian nation, they just used to be Arabs". None of that is actually *a lie* per se, because Palestinians were and indeed still are mostly Arabs, and as serfs who lived on territory belonging to the Ottoman Empire until it's collapse in the 20th century there never has been a nation for them. It's a statement that achieves semantic correctness without being bothered by the historical inaccuracy of overlooking the centuries-old distinct regional culture and the bonds formed through recent shared history that, regardless of any official recognition, has existed and united a people whose ancestors have resided in "Palestine" for time immemorial. Call it what you will, it is what it is.


I understand the tunnel vision that often accompanies religious and other ideological mindsets, but I don't have to accept it.

And there's a difference between being willingly blinded and being outright deceptive - the latter being obvious when the same lie is repeatedly croaked AFTER the liar has been shown irrefutable evidence to the contrary.

Sadly, this is all to common among Israels apologists - likely because once the lies are removed, there's little or nothing left that's worth defending.

Talk about building your house on the sand...
 
2010-03-11 05:44:42 PM
mrexcess: None of this, repeat, none of this historical discussion ought to be used by anyone to try and obscure the fact that today we have on our hands a distinct and isolated culture we call Palestinians

How about the fact that they are not a distinct or isolated culture ? it's explained quite clearly in the link i provided.

Farker T: Shameless.

I didn't know that. At least i admit when i'm wrong.

Farker T: A military target? WWII was OVER. Israel did not yet exist as a state, and even if it had, the Jews would have been attacking THE ALLIES.

It was the headquarters of the british forces. That makes it a military target.

Farker T: The Pentagon could be seen as a "military target" as well. Do you deny that the attack on that structure was an act of terrorism?

The Pentagon was a military target. It was an act of terrorism since it was part of a combined attack, including the WTC which was not a military target.

Farker T: As to the civilians, I wouldn't be surprised if the Jews, who pulled off the attack DRESSED AS ARABS warned their fellow Jews in advance.

Um, they warned the civilians in the hotel. Some were british.
You need to switch to decaf.

Farker T: Which is relevant HOW???

He's not the eeeevil beast you suggest ?

Farker T: The fact that Israel (and it's supporters) TOLERATES this hypocritical bullshiat without LOUDLY and HARSHLY condemning it says everything, doesn't it?

it's not tolerated, it was covered in the news in a negetive light. In your own link they call Goldstein a terrorist and a murderer. But since this is Israel and not Hamas in Gaza we won't shoot them point blank in the head.

Farker T: People are not blind to your hypocrisy,

They sure are blind to the arab hypocrisy. What's your opinion regarding the Hamas genocidal agenda towards Israel ?

Farker T: nto silence thanks to the campaign of political correctness that you and yours have so artfully waged over the last half century. How long do you think this will keep working?

What the fark are you talking about ?

Farker T: Once the war was over, the Zionists were chomping at the bit to start their independent State. Apparently the Brits weren't leaving fast enough, and were too concerned with the welfare of the non-Jewish residents, so Irgun attacked with a TERRORIST BOMBING to give them the bum's rush.

Nice historical revisionism. How Shameless of you.

Farker T: Feel free to shamelessly play stupid the next time this issue comes up. I'll be more than happy to correct you again.

If you want me to remind you that you were already exposed as an anti-semite douche, well, i'll be happy to remind you again.
 
2010-03-11 06:13:09 PM
So just to recap.

Australian, British, French, German and Irish citizens are all racist if they have a problem with another state faking their passports and using them for hit jobs around the world.

Using these passports are ok because the guy they killed had fake passports too.

The only explanation there can be for someone from these countries having a problem with this is because they secretly spend their spare time fapping to photos of holocaust victims.

Got it
 
2010-03-11 07:08:33 PM
one70bpm: Toht: Thunderpipes:

Holy Jesus fail Batman......Let me guess, you always won a trophy in school and never kept score in T-ball?


And that's part of why I stopped supporting Israel. Not just the whole Occupied Territories thing, but the modern day SA that troll the nets.

Back to hasabra with you. You have no power here.

so, by saying you stopped supporting israel, it implies that you once DID support israel.

then, due to internet trolls, you completely changed your position on an insanely complex situation?

awesome. i hope people like you are in my voting district.



Back in 1991, I was a huge supporter. I thought their restraint during the Gulf War was admirable in the extreme. During the intifada, I was on the fence. I'd heard about IDF atrocities, but I was willing to explain them away. Then I met my first hasbara troll. I just can't dismiss intellectual dishonesty. I was seeing what was happening with my own eyes. I looked at the megaphone brigade, and all I saw were brownshirts. Then came Lebanon (redux), then Gaza, and recently the Dubai murderers.

I see a cancer in Israel. A cancer that almost took root here in the US. It changed the way I vote, and it changed the way I look at the world. Israel needs to cut out it's cancer like America is trying to do so now.

So when I see people like Gato Negro, beoswulf, and so many others here, I see Israel's sickness made flesh. I see something worse than a troll. I see a nationalist. I remember the last time nationalists got a hold in Germany. I see something that should never happen again happening.

Tatsuma was the greatest disappointment of all. Before he got religious, he was an interesting and articulate voice from the "other side". I learned a lot from him. Then he fell in with the religion crap, and now he's James Joyce. I lament the loss of Tatsuma most of all. I pray each day that one day his head will clear, and we'll get him back.

It's the Israeli apologists that hurt Israel the most. Twisting the truth and lying to our faces because they fancy themselves some kind of "chosen race" (again, where have we heard that before?) and we're all just too stupid to understand that as wrong as things look, they aren't really wrong at all. That kind of patronization just doesn't fly. People smell the bullshiat and call shenanigans. Meanwhile, the latter-day SA political thugs try to bully and cow people away from speaking their minds about things that are very clearly morally indefensible.

So yeah, the trolls changed my point of view, the way I vote, and my opinions about our supposed "friends". In fact, I'm sure that's what happened with a lot of people, for the edification of you hasbara trolls who just can't noodle it through why everyone hates Israel.

It's you Trolls. It's you that are turning people against Israel more than anything else, even if everyone is to scared to tell you so.
 
2010-03-11 07:12:51 PM
TappingTheVein: mrexcess: None of this, repeat, none of this historical discussion ought to be used by anyone to try and obscure the fact that today we have on our hands a distinct and isolated culture we call Palestinians

How about the fact that they are not a distinct or isolated culture ? it's explained quite clearly in the link i provided.

Farker T: Shameless.

I didn't know that. At least i admit when i'm wrong.


Good. You'll need the practice.

Farker T: A military target? WWII was OVER. Israel did not yet exist as a state, and even if it had, the Jews would have been attacking THE ALLIES.

TTV: It was the headquarters of the british forces. That makes it a military target.


A military target for who? Zionists are painted as "resistance fighters", as though they were being occupied by a foreign force. Who were they "resisting"?

Farker T: The Pentagon could be seen as a "military target" as well. Do you deny that the attack on that structure was an act of terrorism?

The Pentagon was a military target. It was an act of terrorism since it was part of a combined attack, including the WTC which was not a military target.


Ah, so had the Pentagon been the sole target on 9/11, you wouldn't have considered it a "terrorist incident". Interesting.

Farker T: As to the civilians, I wouldn't be surprised if the Jews, who pulled off the attack DRESSED AS ARABS warned their fellow Jews in advance.

Um, they warned the civilians in the hotel. Some were british.
You need to switch to decaf.


Cite please. Thanks.

Farker T: Which is relevant HOW???

He's not the eeeevil beast you suggest ?


I didn't say he was "evil", I said he was a terrorist whose terrorist activities are honored and celebrated by the Israeli government. And I was right.

Farker T: The fact that Israel (and it's supporters) TOLERATES this hypocritical bullshiat without LOUDLY and HARSHLY condemning it says everything, doesn't it?

it's not tolerated, it was covered in the news in a negetive light. In your own link they call Goldstein a terrorist and a murderer. But since this is Israel and not Hamas in Gaza we won't shoot them point blank in the head.


Even as Israel announced plans for 50,000 new settler homes on stolen land. Wow.
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Farker T: People are not blind to your hypocrisy,

They sure are blind to the arab hypocrisy. What's your opinion regarding the Hamas genocidal agenda towards Israel ?


Unlike the Jews at the time of the King David Hotel bombing, the Palestinians are living under brutal forced occupation that has gone on for more than 60 years. I don't support any Palestinian political group, nor do I condone terrorist actions, but these actions are entirely predictable given the circumstances. When people are cornered and desperate, they do what they can with what they have to SURVIVE.

If anyone has demonstrated a genocidal bent, it is Israel.

Farker T: nto silence thanks to the campaign of political correctness that you and yours have so artfully waged over the last half century. How long do you think this will keep working?

What the fark are you talking about ?


ADL. Need I say more?

Farker T: Once the war was over, the Zionists were chomping at the bit to start their independent State. Apparently the Brits weren't leaving fast enough, and were too concerned with the welfare of the non-Jewish residents, so Irgun attacked with a TERRORIST BOMBING to give them the bum's rush.

Nice historical revisionism. How Shameless of you.


What EXACTLY do you presume that I am "revising"?

Farker T: Feel free to shamelessly play stupid the next time this issue comes up. I'll be more than happy to correct you again.

If you want me to remind you that you were already exposed as an anti-semite douche, well, i'll be happy to remind you again.


Resorting to ad hominem?

Oh please. Your accusations are hollow and meaningless. To you and yours, anyone who doesn't kiss kosher ass is a "Nazi" and an anti-Semite.

You and yours resort to this crap because you haven't a solid argument, so you're just crying to mamma.

Grow some balls.
 
2010-03-11 07:25:13 PM
Crap, I meant William Joyce.


/Oops
 
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