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2010-03-11 11:30:11 AM  
spawn73: Yes, I most certaintly am saying that the walls, checkpoints, ghettos, stealing of land is ruining the prospect of a lively hood and a Palestinian state there.

This is not what I asked you.

Are you saying that the settlements, IDF checkpoints and the wall within Area A are ruining the live of Palestinians.

Answer the question, Dr. Google.
 
2010-03-11 11:35:49 AM  
Tatsuma: jso2897: Almost none of our ostensible "allies" are. Israel is hardly unique in that. We are the big, rich kids on the block - and most of those who don't actively hate us are quite prepared to stab us in the back if it's worth a nickel to them to do so. You can argue over how much of this is our own fault - but it doesn't change the reality of the situation.

It goes both way. America is ready to sacrifice allies in the name of self-benefit.

Welcome to the world of International Politics. No such things as friends, only temporary allies based on a mutually beneficial relationship


True, the U.S. shamefully turned its back on the Shiia and Kurds in Iraq in '92 after we led them to believe we would support their rebelion against Saddam. Before that the U.S. shamefully abandoned Afganistan after the Mujahadeen drove the Soviets out with our blessings and aid. We have paid for both of those lapses and I hope the State Department remembers and regrets this.

But, the Israelis transferring U.S. supplied defence technology to China is really beyond the pale. No, I have no proof, but can you honestly say that you believe Israel hasn't done it?

/I know you are going to say it, but you really can't believe it when you say it.
 
2010-03-11 11:36:58 AM  
The fact that the "quote" function does not reproduce the "strike" tags can make for confusion. Wonder if there's a fix for that? Next time, i'm going to try to fix it manually, and see if it works.
 
2010-03-11 11:37:28 AM  
Is this a state owned super market? Kind of hard to throw the actions of one business on Israel.
 
2010-03-11 11:39:41 AM  
Kazuya: Jews did use "terrorist" tactics against Nazi Germany and were justified in doing so. I'm sure some would have used rockets they had the chance...

The partisans did but that was after the jews were placed in camps. They weren't the reason.

Nice try though. keep trying.

Kazuya: Children in Gaza are suffering from malnutrition and many are born with birth defects because of the blockade.

Instead of smuggling in tons of explosives to blow up more jews i suggest bringing in food.
There was no blockade when israel got out of gaza. The palestinians decided to use the opportunity and get their rocket launchers closer to israel so they can target more israeli cities.
Guess what happened next ?

Kazuya: Israel have one of the strongest militaries in the world with financial and militaristic backing from the strongest superpower of them all and yet still poses like some kind of underdog even against a 3rd world advisary.

So you suggest Israel turn gaza into a smoking hole in the ground ? you know, taking the palestinians approach to the situation.

Kazuya: Until Palestinians are regarded as at least human

Palestinians stealing water from israeli pipes which they tear apart is now considered a natural spring ? buhahaha.

Nice pic. If you notice where he stands and where the woman does it's quite similar to pics showing israeli soldiers pointing guns at arabs. Well they do look like they are pointing the gun from the photographer's angle.

Kazuya: oh and as far as Hamas's claim that they are going to wipe "Israel off the map" goes, take a look at the IDF, take a look at Hamas and laugh

Ok. the Hamas terrorists do whatever they can to further their genocidal agenda which is quite clear and the IDF is doing whatever it can to stop them.
If the power balance was reversed there would be no IDF since there would be no Israel.
 
2010-03-11 11:42:40 AM  
Toht: I did, the guy was right. You rebutted with the pic. Was your point that since a pic of Hitler talking with an Arab exists, that Israel isn't actually doing things that are eerily familiar?


No i was simply pointing out the stupidity of the analogy.
If you want something similar to the nazis consider the palestinians various terrorist organizations calling for the eradication of Israel.

I bet you didn't know that one of the arabs (now calling themselves palestinians) known leaders back in the day was Hitler's pal and he was quite fond of Hitler's approach to the jewish problem. Must be the occupation! oh wait..
 
2010-03-11 11:43:55 AM  
pr.ak.vresp.com
 
2010-03-11 11:44:49 AM  
TappingTheVein:
when israel got out of gaza.


Israel retained control of airspace and ports.
 
2010-03-11 11:46:30 AM  
Toht: Thunderpipes:

Holy Jesus fail Batman......Let me guess, you always won a trophy in school and never kept score in T-ball?


And that's part of why I stopped supporting Israel. Not just the whole Occupied Territories thing, but the modern day SA that troll the nets.

Back to hasabra with you. You have no power here.


so, by saying you stopped supporting israel, it implies that you once DID support israel.

then, due to internet trolls, you completely changed your position on an insanely complex situation?

awesome. i hope people like you are in my voting district.
 
2010-03-11 11:47:40 AM  
Tatsuma: spawn73: Yes, I most certaintly am saying that the walls, checkpoints, ghettos, stealing of land is ruining the prospect of a lively hood and a Palestinian state there.

This is not what I asked you.

Are you saying that the settlements, IDF checkpoints and the wall within Area A are ruining the live of Palestinians.

Answer the question, Dr. Google.


Which is, of course, entirely irrelevant. Israeli presence in the West Bank is illegal regardless of the hardships that presence creates.
 
Pav
2010-03-11 11:48:13 AM  
Franko: aardwolf: I find the Israeli state a very sad reflection on humanity. How can a populace of often incredibly wealthy, educated and gifted individuals be so short sighted as to not see the irony of escaping from walled off ghettos and genocides to being the ones creating new ones?

No outrage but what can one person do but look on in despair of humanity :(

THIS x100

I also don't understand why people look down on critics of Israel. During the 2nd world war we cheered on the Resistance fighting an occupying force, but in the 21st century, the occupiers are the heroes?



I was born a Jew though I don't hold to the tenants of the religion, and I can see both sides of the Israel issue. I actually believe that Israel was a bad idea from the start and all those people should have come to the US. That being said some farkers on here should really do some research and understand the topic before they spew ignorance across this board.

I know I know "Welcome to Fark" Spare me.

I'll give you the short version. The Jews were given Palestine as their new homeland and in return the Palestinians were promised better lives and prosperity in neighboring nations such as Egypt and Jordan. They mostly willingly packed up their bags ( to be sure there were some that didn't want to go ) and when they got to the borders these countries CHANGED THEIR MINDS and blocked entry. This is the cause of the Palestinian refugee camps which became the modern Palestinian settlements. It was the Arab countries that changed the deal which caused all of this.

Of course when these people got screwed on both sides they decided to blame the people least like them. The people who took over their original homes, however I never hear anyone putting any blame on the deal changers who caused this in the first place.

This is nothing like Nazi Germany. Please educate yourselves.
 
2010-03-11 11:49:16 AM  
kramers_hair: Israel retained control of airspace and ports.

The blockade started when Hamas were elected as the Palestinian government. before that the border to Israel (and Egypt) was open and the palestinians were using their own airport.
It was all monitored for obvious reasons.
 
2010-03-11 11:53:36 AM  
TappingTheVein: kramers_hair: Israel retained control of airspace and ports.

The blockade started when Hamas were elected as the Palestinian government. before that the border to Israel (and Egypt) was open and the palestinians were using their own airport.
It was all monitored for obvious reasons.


Nope. Sea and air traffic were all controlled since day 1 of Israel's retreat.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4235768.stm

"Israel will retain control over the territory's air and sea space and, at least temporarily, all its borders."
 
2010-03-11 11:53:54 AM  
Nuke it all from orbit.

/Both sides are bad, so vote total destruction.
 
2010-03-11 11:54:31 AM  
Mishno:
I say the U.S. should withdraw all aid from Israel everywhere and promise it to the Palistinians if the Palestinians renounce violence. If Israel still fails to bargain in good faith and not rival North Korea in their intransigence, the family of nations should bring international sanctions againd them. until our budget is balanced and poverty is eradicated in the U.S.
 
2010-03-11 11:55:47 AM  
kramers_hair: Nope. Sea and air traffic were all controlled since day 1 of Israel's retreat.

But they were using it. As i said it was all monitored for obvious reasons.
 
2010-03-11 11:56:30 AM  
Pav:
This is nothing like Nazi Germany. Please educate yourselves.


The *only* parallel is the dehumanization of the Palestinians ("they aren't a people", "they have no history here", "the Israeli Arabs are destroying our culture", etc etc etc).

The actual punishment of the Palestinians is not on the same scale as that of the Jews under the Nazis.

These distinctions are important (but personally, I don't feel the need to compare everything to the Nazis anyway).
 
2010-03-11 11:57:03 AM  
rockmeamadeus: Mishno:
I say the U.S. should withdraw all aid from Israel everywhere and promise it to the Palistinians if the Palestinians renounce violence. If Israel still fails to bargain in good faith and not rival North Korea in their intransigence, the family of nations should bring international sanctions againd them. until our budget is balanced and poverty is eradicated in the U.S.


I forgot the "FTFY" or should have added the "I" is now mine not Mishno's.

So now FTFM?
 
2010-03-11 11:59:56 AM  
kramers_hair: The *only* parallel is the dehumanization of the Palestinians ("they aren't a people", "they have no history here", "the Israeli Arabs are destroying our culture", etc etc etc).

The palestinians themselves admit they are not a nation and they never were.
 
2010-03-11 12:00:33 PM  
Pav: Franko

I don't think "[...] They mostly willingly packed up their bags [...]" is the best way to describe being kicked out of your home at gunpoint.

On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly voted 33 to 13 with 10 abstentions, in favour of a plan to partition the territory into separate Jewish and Arab states, under economic union, with the Greater Jerusalem area (encompassing Bethlehem) coming under international control. Zionist leaders (including the Jewish Agency), accepted the plan, while Palestinian Arab leaders rejected it and all independent Muslim and Arab states voted against it. Almost immediately, sectarian violence erupted and spread, killing over the ensuing months hundreds of Arabs, Jews and British.

The rapid evolution of events precipitated into a Civil War. Arab volunteers of the Arab Liberation Army entered Palestine to fight with the Palestinians, but the April-May offensive of Yishuv's forces crushed the Arabs and Palestinian society collapsed. Some 300,000 to 350,000 Palestinians caught up in the turmoil fled or were driven from their homes.
 
2010-03-11 12:03:25 PM  
TappingTheVein: Kazuya: Jews did use "terrorist" tactics against Nazi Germany and were justified in doing so. I'm sure some would have used rockets they had the chance...

The partisans did but that was after the jews were placed in camps. They weren't the reason.


Well couldn't the Palestinians claim they only resorted to terrorism after they were attacked first? At least you admit it.

Kazuya: Children in Gaza are suffering from malnutrition and many are born with birth defects because of the blockade.

Instead of smuggling in tons of explosives to blow up more jews i suggest bringing in food.
There was no blockade when israel got out of gaza. The palestinians decided to use the opportunity and get their rocket launchers closer to israel so they can target more israeli cities.
Guess what happened next ?


I'm sure they exclusively imported explosives and didn't bother with any food even though 50% of their population are children, cos they're so crazy like that. I suppose that's why international aid, mevement education and just about every other aid is severely curtailed too.

Kazuya: Israel have one of the strongest militaries in the world with financial and militaristic backing from the strongest superpower of them all and yet still poses like some kind of underdog even against a 3rd world advisary.

So you suggest Israel turn gaza into a smoking hole in the ground ? you know, taking the palestinians approach to the situation.

images.91.com
You didn't even try.

Kazuya: Until Palestinians are regarded as at least human

Palestinians stealing water from israeli pipes which they tear apart is now considered a natural spring ? buhahaha.


No you just made that pipe bit up. Still I'd forgive someone stealing water from 1st world occupiers if they were that desperate all things considered. This type of thing doesn't help.

Nice pic. If you notice where he stands and where the woman does it's quite similar to pics showing israeli soldiers pointing guns at arabs. Well they do look like they are pointing the gun from the photographer's angle.

wat

Kazuya: oh and as far as Hamas's claim that they are going to wipe "Israel off the map" goes, take a look at the IDF, take a look at Hamas and laugh

Ok. the Hamas terrorists do whatever they can to further their genocidal agenda which is quite clear and the IDF is doing whatever it can to stop them.
If the power balance was reversed there would be no IDF since there would be no Israel.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2010-03-11 12:04:24 PM  
Tatsuma: Prices so low, you will be shocked!

LOL!

So says the clown who got all ethnically butthurt because I asked him if he got "gassed" on Purim (new window).
 
2010-03-11 12:04:26 PM  
Franko: I don't think "[...] They mostly willingly packed up their bags [...]" is the best way to describe being kicked out of your home at gunpoint.

Actually the best way to describe it is to say that the Arab nations surrounding them told them to leave in order to make it easier for the Arab armies to advance and slaughter everyone, and when that was done they would be able to return and take back their rightful place.

Then the Arab leaders said 'Oops, we didn't manage to kill all the Jews, sorry.... so uh yeah go to these refugee camps cause we're not going to let you become citizens lol' and just started ignoring them. Until they needed a stick to beat Israel with, of course. Then it's back to the shed once again.

That's not just my point of view, by the way, but also the now deceased King of Jordan's point of view... oh yeah and the current Prime Minister of the PA Mahmoud Abbas's too as well.
 
2010-03-11 12:05:08 PM  
kramers_hair: Pav:
This is nothing like Nazi Germany. Please educate yourselves.

The *only* parallel is the dehumanization of the Palestinians ("they aren't a people", "they have no history here", "the Israeli Arabs are destroying our culture", etc etc etc).

The actual punishment of the Palestinians is not on the same scale as that of the Jews under the Nazis.

These distinctions are important (but personally, I don't feel the need to compare everything to the Nazis anyway).


My intent was, of course, not to compare the suffering. Of course the Jews suffered way more during the 2nd world war compared to the Palestinians today.

That being said, I'd hate to think that we have a set number of deaths before we decide that a people are really suffering:

"Okay, with those last two civilians killed we ca NOW say that the Palestinians are really being mistreated."

If the 2nd world war has taught us anything is to try and nip it in the bug before it becomes another holocaust.
 
2010-03-11 12:05:13 PM  
Franko: I don't think "[...] They mostly willingly packed up their bags [...]" is the best way to describe being kicked out of your home at gunpoint.

The majority of arabs left when they were requested to do so by the invading arab armies. They were promised the property of the slaughtered jews once they return.

Things didn't work out as planned.
 
2010-03-11 12:06:55 PM  
"The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live." - Mahmoud Abbas
 
2010-03-11 12:07:01 PM  
TappingTheVein: kramers_hair: The *only* parallel is the dehumanization of the Palestinians ("they aren't a people", "they have no history here", "the Israeli Arabs are destroying our culture", etc etc etc).

The palestinians themselves admit they are not a nation and they never were.


A Palestinian themselves believes they are not a nation and they never were.

Besides, if a nation is basically a group of people with a shared history and culture then what moron would say that the Palestinians aren't a people/nation?

Is South Africa a nation? Is the United States?
 
2010-03-11 12:09:03 PM  
jso2897: Thunderpipes: So basically Fark says it is wrong to kill terrorists, and those that do are evil.

Got it.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I suspect that would depend upon what you mean by "terrorists". If by "terrorists", you mean actual, individual human beings or groups thereof who actually engage in the tactics we call "terrorism", then i don't think you'd find too many people who disagree with the frequent necessity of killing them.
But there is no such thing as a "terrorist" ethnicity, or a "terrorist" religion, or a "terrorist" nationality. There are only the very small number of human beings who engage in terrorism, and the vast majority of humanity, who do not.


The man assassinated was a terrorist. Farkers and the world are displaying outrage over that. Palestinians themselves elected a terrorist organization to lead them. At what point do they become responsible for their choices? Personal responsibility is a biatch, isn't it? Israel has given the terrorists and terrorist supporters plenty of chances to make peace. They refuse to do so.

I say, let the artillery fly. Sooner or later, the problem will be solved.
 
2010-03-11 12:10:19 PM  
Franko: If the 2nd world war has taught us anything is to try and nip it in the bug before it becomes another holocaust.

...

have you been following the news recently and realized how many genocides go on and people are just ignoring them?

Heck, you've got around 6 genocides that are considered ongoing on right now and I bet you can't name one outside of possibly Darfur. People focusing on I/P are ignoring much bigger issues in the world as we speak.
 
2010-03-11 12:11:48 PM  
If Israel could demonstrate as much resolve to bring about peace, the Palestinian conflict would be over.
 
2010-03-11 12:15:37 PM  
Kazuya: Well couldn't the Palestinians claim they only resorted to terrorism after they were attacked first? At least you admit it.

Mainly because it isn't true.

Kazuya: I'm sure they exclusively imported explosives and didn't bother with any food even though 50% of their population are children, cos they're so crazy like that. I suppose that's why international aid, mevement education and just about every other aid is severely curtailed too.

Oh they smuggle in food. Sure. They also smuggle tons of explosives.
I don't think all those tons are edible.

Kazuya: You didn't even try.

So pointing out that Israel is not Hamas went above your head ?

Kazuya: No you just made that pipe bit up.

That video looked like a natural spring to you ? in a middle of a road ?
The palestinians steal water from israeli pipes on a regular basis.

Kazuya: wat

Show me a pic when she's wet.
 
2010-03-11 12:16:09 PM  
Tatsuma: Franko: If the 2nd world war has taught us anything is to try and nip it in the bug before it becomes another holocaust.

...

have you been following the news recently and realized how many genocides go on and people are just ignoring them?

Heck, you've got around 6 genocides that are considered ongoing on right now and I bet you can't name one outside of possibly Darfur. People focusing on I/P are ignoring much bigger issues in the world as we speak.


Yeah, and you're so versatile, and the perfect person to be lecturing us on not being a one-trick-pony. Got it.
 
2010-03-11 12:17:12 PM  
mrexcess: If Israel could demonstrate as much resolve to bring about peace, the Palestinian conflict would be over.

Yes, because offering 100% of Azza, 98% of Judea and Samaria as well as half of Jerusalem and 2% of land inside of Israel to create a contiguous state is showing an incredible degree of harshness, right?

Do you know what Mahmoud Abbas answered when he was offered this? fark all. He didn't even bother to say no, he just ignored Olmert.

Keep on blaming Israel, though.
 
2010-03-11 12:17:25 PM  
kramers_hair: Is South Africa a nation? Is the United States?

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.

"For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
 
2010-03-11 12:18:04 PM  
jso2897: jpo2269: Cormee 2010-03-11 08:49:38 AM
beoswulf: The Israelis respond with humor, specifically a relatively high form of humor, parody

Righty-ho so they *didn't* assassinate Mahmoud al-Mabhouh?

He laughed himself to death at the comedy show they put on for him?

Maybe former congressman Massa tickled him to death....

Your handle is very similar to mine, and you are attempting to post on the same message board. I may find it necessary to bomb your profile and build settlements on it.


Go for it. He didn't have a building permit for that profile, so it's illegal anyway.
 
2010-03-11 12:18:37 PM  
Thunderpipes: jso2897: Thunderpipes: So basically Fark says it is wrong to kill terrorists, and those that do are evil.

Got it.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I suspect that would depend upon what you mean by "terrorists". If by "terrorists", you mean actual, individual human beings or groups thereof who actually engage in the tactics we call "terrorism", then i don't think you'd find too many people who disagree with the frequent necessity of killing them.
But there is no such thing as a "terrorist" ethnicity, or a "terrorist" religion, or a "terrorist" nationality. There are only the very small number of human beings who engage in terrorism, and the vast majority of humanity, who do not.

The man assassinated was a terrorist. Farkers and the world are displaying outrage over that.

Yes and no. If Israel used fake foreign passports then it puts legitimate citizens of those countries at greater risk. There is a reason that New Zealand and Canada were (rightly) very upset when Israeli agents faked those countries passports.

Palestinians themselves elected a terrorist organization to lead them. At what point do they become responsible for their choices?

Collective punishment is illegal. If punishing citizens for the actions of their government is legal then Palestinians have full right to attack random Israeli citizens, Vietnamese and Iranians have full right to attack random Americans, and ...
 
2010-03-11 12:19:14 PM  
Thunderpipes: The man assassinated was a terrorist. Farkers and the world are displaying outrage over that.

Nope. They are displaying outrage over the fact that whoever did it forged other country's passports to carry out an extra-judicial execution. If Iran used the same tactic to assassinate the perpetrators of that suicide bombing they had a while back, you could bet that the countries who had their passports forged would be similarly pissed, and that you would be pissed along with them, instead of rushing to defend Iran because they killed a terrorist.
 
2010-03-11 12:19:41 PM  
Tatsuma: Keep on blaming Israel

Okay!
 
2010-03-11 12:20:46 PM  
Tatsuma: mrexcess: If Israel could demonstrate as much resolve to bring about peace, the Palestinian conflict would be over.

Yes, because offering 100% of Azza, 98% of Judea and Samaria as well as half of Jerusalem and 2% of land inside of Israel to create a contiguous state is showing an incredible degree of harshness, right?

Do you know what Mahmoud Abbas answered when he was offered this? fark all. He didn't even bother to say no, he just ignored Olmert.

Keep on blaming Israel, though.


... and as Olmert was saying that Israel was happily building more settlements in the West Bank. Yeah, that was a serious offer. Sure.

It was all marketing baby. Thats all it ever was.
 
2010-03-11 12:21:12 PM  
TappingTheVein: aardwolf: I find the Israeli state a very sad reflection on humanity. How can a populace of often incredibly wealthy, educated and gifted individuals be so short sighted as to not see the irony of escaping from walled off ghettos and genocides to being the ones creating new ones?

yes those damn jews and their open goal of eradicating Germany and they were busy blowing up German coffee shops and pizza parlors at random. And bombing German cities with thousands of rockets.
And Israel sure sucks at this genocide business since the palestinian population have one of the largest growth percentage in the world.

I love retarded analogies.


Cut back on the caffeine. Seriously. You'll live longer.
 
2010-03-11 12:21:57 PM  
TappingTheVein: The blockade started when Hamas were elected as the Palestinian government.

kramers_hair: Nope. Sea and air traffic were all controlled since day 1 of Israel's retreat.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4235768.stm

"Israel will retain control over the territory's air and sea space and, at least temporarily, all its borders."



I'm going to have to bookmark this lolfest to read for later.
 
2010-03-11 12:22:40 PM  
Tatsuma: jakomo002: Yes, yes, everything is black and white, we got it.

The man kidnapped, killed and personally tap-danced on one of the soldiers' bodies to celebrate, and was the main importer of literally hundreds of tons of weapons inside of Gaza that are used to fire indiscriminately toward civilian centers.


Was he the one that imported the white phosphorous that the Palestinians used on the helpless Israelis??

www.globalsecurity.org

If so, good riddance.
 
2010-03-11 12:25:09 PM  
Tatsuma: spawn73: Yes, I most certaintly am saying that the walls, checkpoints, ghettos, stealing of land is ruining the prospect of a lively hood and a Palestinian state there.

This is not what I asked you.

Are you saying that the settlements, IDF checkpoints and the wall within Area A are ruining the live of Palestinians.

Answer the question, Dr. Google.


Fine I'll play along, I'll say that the presence of settlements with all that it entails lower the life quality of the Palestinians in the occupied West Bank.

I also find it slightly amusing that you as a university student find it appropriate to make fun of someone who seeks imformation about a subject he discusses.

It is not Google that provided the handy map, they just provided a link to a site that had it.
 
2010-03-11 12:25:09 PM  
I'll know they have a real sense of humor when they start offering Zyklon B shower products. Now that would be funny.
 
2010-03-11 12:26:11 PM  
Slaxl: Observatory: Stay classy Israel!!

and then they go and wonder why the world HATES Israel and all that it stands for.

What's to hate about this? Some dude who had it coming was killed and someone makes a joke about it. Ooooh, how offensive. I don't get the anti-Israeli sentiments. They are facing constant threats from their neighbours, and behave far more restrained than they need to be.


It's easy to kill the dudes who "have it coming" when you don't bother with laws or trials or anything. Quicker, too.
 
2010-03-11 12:34:59 PM  
spawn73: Fine I'll play along,

It's not playing along when you don't actually answer the question.

Are the settlements in Area A, as well as the wall and checkpoints, making life harder for the Arabs who live within it?

You claim that you know about the subject (I mean, hey, google told you you were right!), so I want an answer.

spawn73: I also find it slightly amusing that you as a university student find it appropriate to make fun of someone who seeks imformation about a subject he discusses.

Go and talk to any university student, say something that is blatantly wrong about the subject of his studies, then smugly say 'I'm right, I googled it' and take careful notes about their reactions.

spawn73: Fine I'll play along

Don't say you are playing along when you don't actually plan to answer the question.

Are you saying that the settlements, the wall and IDF checkpoints within Area A are making life miserable for the Arabs who live inside Area A?

spawn73: I also find it slightly amusing that you as a university student find it appropriate to make fun of someone who seeks imformation about a subject he discusses.

Please, go to the nearest university you can find, then walk up to random students. Declare something that is blatantly false about the subject they study, then declare smugly 'I know I'm right, I googled it'. Then take notes on how they react. and report to us.
 
2010-03-11 12:35:52 PM  
Observatory: Stay classy Israel!!

This is all I came here to say.
 
2010-03-11 12:36:49 PM  
Also, drink scotch to unwind after an all-night study session, cut/paste a post you have just written, somehow think you have deleted it and try to recreate it from memory, and post them next to each others.

Then report on how stupid you feel and how you should go lie down.
 
2010-03-11 12:38:35 PM  
TappingTheVein: Kazuya: Well couldn't the Palestinians claim they only resorted to terrorism after they were attacked first? At least you admit it.

Mainly because it isn't true.

Outside your country the land is viewed as being occupied. Or stolen.


Kazuya: I'm sure they exclusively imported explosives and didn't bother with any food even though 50% of their population are children, cos they're so crazy like that. I suppose that's why international aid, mevement education and just about every other aid is severely curtailed too.

Oh they smuggle in food. Sure. They also smuggle tons of explosives.
I don't think all those tons are edible.

Collective punishment eh? If you want to starve children, bomb schools, retrict aid/water/movement and any basic development in Gaza would you would find an international boycott of Israel (long overdue IMO) based on it's humanitarian outrages unfair?



Kazuya: No you just made that pipe bit up.

That video looked like a natural spring to you ? in a middle of a road ?
The palestinians steal water from israeli pipes on a regular basis.


Have you any response to the actual water outrages I posted other than this whine of petty criminality based on no evidence?



Kazuya: wat

Show me a pic when she's wet.


Is that a joke? I'm really not sure...
 
2010-03-11 12:39:37 PM  
Tatsuma
Do you know what Mahmoud Abbas answered when he was offered this? fark all. He didn't even bother to say no, he just ignored Olmert.

Although I'm sure you've selected a completely fair and not at all cherry-picked list of highlights of the proposal, without seeing it in it's entirety it's difficult to assess how generous an offer it was, or what the problems with it may have been. Can you provide a citation?

Keep on blaming Israel, though.

When I think it's warranted, I will. HAMAS's terrorist actions are not Israel's fault, but neither are Israel's actions of territorial conquest the fault of HAMAS or other Palestinians.
 
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