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aiiee		2010-03-10 11:41:26 PM

I've worked with the wake and bake crowd, they aren't reliable, don't want nothing to do with them. Other than that, well, I can't get over that.

CtrlAltDelete		2010-03-11 01:03:14 AM

A letter to weed about my dad Dear Weed, Holy sh*t, dude. Holy sh*t. Holy sh*t, you know? I mean... wow. Damn. Damn! So you know what I'm talking about right? Right? That f*cking letter.. this LETTER. I'm reading this thing.. and I'm like.. "Oooooooo SH*T!" Haha! Hahaha! You know? Yeah! YEAH. F*cking exactly, man. Yeah! That's PRECISELY what I'm talking about. You're like a f*cking GENIUS and sh*t. You should teach. Be a teacher. Teach the world. Have you ever wanted to teach? You could teach. People would call you Teach. Teach. I like that. Teach. You know, and I know you know this- I KNOW that you KNOW this; I know it, I'm going to say it anyway, because seriously. Damn. You LOOK like a "Teach." It suits you. Look at you. Look at how much you look like a "Teach." I'm just.. holy sh*t. I'm going to call you Teach now. Haha! You're TEACH now! That's awesome. You're teach now. Hey. Hey. You're Teach now. Love, Rebbecca.

spacely_sprocket		2010-03-11 01:12:48 AM

Approves.

Gwendolyn		2010-03-11 01:27:51 AM

I would so totally fark my my kids if they were high and paranoid.

of course I like screwing with their minds now so the drugs would just make it more fun.

Chariset		2010-03-11 01:28:59 AM

spacely_sprocket: Approves.

"Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lives in a bong in a dormitory?"

ecmoRandomNumbers		2010-03-11 01:33:17 AM

Gwendolyn: I would so totally fark my my kids if they were high and paranoid.

Umm... what?

mamoru		2010-03-11 01:42:47 AM

Gwendolyn: I would so totally fark my my kids if they were high and paranoid.

Looking to become a Fark headline, are we? ;)

snuff3r		2010-03-11 02:13:03 AM

Gwendolyn: I don't know whether to call the police or correct your sentence.

On the subject of weed, my parents said to me "I don't care what you do just don't end up a bum or break the law". I was just a visitor, though i still enjoy it nowadays a few times a year.

Gwendolyn		2010-03-11 02:15:39 AM

Gwendolyn: I would so totally fark mywith my kids if they were high and paranoid.

of course I like screwing with their minds now so the drugs would just make it more fun.

I'm having a shiatty night. I won't ask anyone to be nice though because I know better around here. heh

cambie		2010-03-11 02:24:43 AM

regular here.

DrBenway		2010-03-11 02:37:24 AM

Smartest thing on the page, in one of the comments:

"...I'd worry a whole lot more about kids and alcohol - especially if cars are involved."

Weaver95		2010-03-11 02:56:42 AM

y'know what our problem is? with the war on drugs I mean. Our problem is that we don't treat addiction as an illness. For some reason, our society ignores addiction. Our society assumes that if someone is addicted, then they're weak. And we despise weakness, so we punish them when we find out about it. we create the cycle of shame, drug abuse, prison and more drug abuse and then we blame the addict for the whole thing.

addiction isn't a moral weakness. it's a valid, measurable biochemical condition. it's no different than any other disease, and just as treatable. I'm not excusing crimes committed under the influence of drugs mind you...but what I am saying is that we need to treat addicts for their addiction. locking up addicts only means that when they come out of prison...they're still addicts. you don't lock up a cancer patient and expect them to not have cancer when they get out of jail.

*sigh*

sorry. it's late and the whole 'war on drugs' thing just pisses me off. especially our hypocrisy when it comes to drugs.

lakefivedi		2010-03-11 02:56:53 AM

I have been a wake and bake for forty years...Never miss a day of work...Pay my taxes...Deal with a bunch of dumb farks every day who want to push their ignorant bullshiat onto others...Have car insurance...Toke while driving...That has been always, and fill up the bowl, will always be...Don't care if the boss suspects me of being high...He has had his differences with me, but...Am in the top 5% of the food servers of the USA!..Dealt with my fair share of crap throughout...Home paid for...Photoshop for the Fark of it...Am in a state with medical marijuana, but have never been to a doctor so can't prove no ailments, but smoke it just the same.
There are a lot of STONERS who actually provide sunshine in life. I play with and treat others with respect whether or not
they are smoking a bowl with me by the dumpster, although I get a bit frustrated when one tells me they would vote for Sarah Palin to run our country. smoke on.........

haemaker		2010-03-11 02:59:00 AM

Occam's Chainsaw		2010-03-11 03:04:18 AM

lakefivedi: I have been a wake and bake for forty years...

And you tyep just as good as you did on day number #1.

Meatzilla		2010-03-11 03:29:58 AM

Motivational Speaker Matt Foley
Would Be Proud

...

PainInTheASP		2010-03-11 06:36:07 AM

I have no problem with this article, save for the following line:

They smoke all the time - they may even "wake an bake" which means smoking first thing in the morning instead of coffee.

...to which I call bullshiat. Coffee is a neccesary part of the wake-n-bake. Almost as much as the pot itself.

dogboy360		2010-03-11 06:38:39 AM

Gwendolyn: Gwendolyn: I would so totally fark mywith my kids if they were high and paranoid.

of course I like screwing with their minds now so the drugs would just make it more fun.

I'm having a shiatty night. I won't ask anyone to be nice though because I know better around here. heh

Wake n bake?

Loved TFA.

- factual, humorous, well written.

/mrs db

redsquid		2010-03-11 06:38:41 AM

My wife just went to bed and left her email open. She has 4,878 messages in her inbox. That, children, is what weed does to you.

TappingTheVein		2010-03-11 06:42:34 AM

Smoke weed everyday.

Neondistraction		2010-03-11 06:44:06 AM

My only issue with the article is when he's listing off various names for pot and he lists 'spliff'. That's not slang for pot, it's what they call joints over in the UK. He might as well have gone full Michael Scott and put hookah on the list too.

jcooli09		2010-03-11 06:45:56 AM

dogboy360: Loved TFA.

- factual, humorous, well written.

You have no idea what your talking about, much like the author

fergalicious		2010-03-11 06:46:14 AM

Is it just me or did the whole article come off as "I used to smoke pot and I turned out fine, but if you smoke it I will ruin your life because there's a small chance it'll lead you to becoming a PCP-addled crack whore?"

Phil Herup		2010-03-11 06:47:32 AM

It is a plant. It has been on Earth for eons. Now, in this small window of time in human history, some people have decided that you can't even posses this plant.

It is no different than a rose or a sunflower, or even a spot of crab grass. Except this one is illegal.

It is only illegal because some authoritarians have said it is. These same authoritarians have said that the tobacco plant is OK, and it is OK to ferment plants to make a toxic poison known as alcohol.

But you can't have this plant. If it grew on your property you could lose everything including your freedom.

The Founding Fathers would be pissed. One of them particularly so.

leegalizit		2010-03-11 06:50:09 AM

Neondistraction: My only issue with the article is when he's listing off various names for pot and he lists 'spliff'. That's not slang for pot, it's what they call joints over in the UK. He might as well have gone full Michael Scott and put hookah on the list too.

Actually I believe a spliff needs tobacco added in order to earn the term, otherwise it is just a joint.

dastars		2010-03-11 06:51:41 AM

fergalicious: Is it just me or did the whole article come off as "I used to smoke pot and I turned out fine, but if you smoke it I will ruin your life because there's a small chance it'll lead you to becoming a PCP-addled crack whore?"

It's just you.

Shakespeare's Monkey		2010-03-11 06:52:48 AM

Generalizations are useless; yes there are wake and bakes that are reliable and run their own business. But, anyone can ruin their life by overindulging in an intoxicant and then making poor life decisions. I have a family member who is in his early 30s and smokes every day. He works as a clerk in a DvD store and has held that job for over ten years. Some will find this funny, cue the clerks references, but it hurts me to see him just float in the nothingness. I can't even tell his mom what the problem is, because I'll lose his trust. And so it goes, I love him though.

jakomo002		2010-03-11 06:52:52 AM

fergalicious: "I used to smoke pot and I turned out fine, but if you smoke it I will ruin your life because there's a small chance it'll lead you to becoming a PCP-addled crack whore?"

I got more of a "you never know if you may become hardcore, but if you do, don't be afraid to tell me about it, I can probably help" vibe.

But then again, I just burned one after I walked my dog for 45 mins at 6am this morning.

/unemployed

Pert		2010-03-11 06:53:59 AM

drdank		2010-03-11 06:54:52 AM

"Pot doesn't take away your motivation. It just makes you realize that it isn't worth the effort."

- Bill Hicks

cptjeff		2010-03-11 06:55:47 AM

Phil Herup: It is a plant. It has been on Earth for eons. Now, in this small window of time in human history, some people have decided that you can't even posses this plant.

It is no different than a rose or a sunflower, or even a spot of crab grass. Except this one is illegal.

It is only illegal because some authoritarians have said it is. These same authoritarians have said that the tobacco plant is OK, and it is OK to ferment plants to make a toxic poison known as alcohol.

But you can't have this plant. If it grew on your property you could lose everything including your freedom.

The Founding Fathers would be pissed. One of them particularly so.

I know Washington made 140 proof rye whiskey, but for the life of me I can't recall if it was Jefferson or GW that grew the Hemp.

I do remember that it was industrial hemp though, not the smokable. Somehow, even that is illegal.

mekkab		2010-03-11 06:55:59 AM

Bus-Rider, here, and I can't stand how people malign a simple smoke of phenacycladine...

anyways, fergalicious: Is it just me or did the whole article come off as "I used to smoke pot and I turned out fine, but if you smoke it I will ruin your life because there's a small chance it'll lead you to becoming a PCP-addled crack whore?"

It's just you and your weed-induced paranoia. The whole article came off as "Watch out who you hang out with" which is pretty much stellar, if not obvious, advice.

Neondistraction: My only issue with the article is when he's listing off various names for pot and he lists 'spliff'. That's not slang for pot, it's what they call joints over in the UK. He might as well have gone full Michael Scott and put hookah on the list too.

Nobody likes a semantics/weed-nerd, Neondistraction!

/;)

Clete Orris		2010-03-11 06:57:00 AM

Stoner?

jakomo002		2010-03-11 06:58:32 AM

Shakespeare's Monkey: He works as a clerk in a DvD store and has held that job for over ten years.

Is he happy? Weed might be sapping his motivation to get something new, but maybe the amount of motivation he has is miniscule to begin with.

Not everyone has the desire to fight the current their whole life to make a few extra bucks, some people let the current take em. You'll usually be able to pick those people out in a crowd because they'll be smiling, and they'll have all their hair.

/thinning on top

Occam's Chainsaw		2010-03-11 06:59:28 AM

Shakespeare's Monkey: Generalizations are useless; yes there are wake and bakes that are reliable and run their own business. But, anyone can ruin their life by overindulging in an intoxicant and then making poor life decisions. I have a family member who is in his early 30s and smokes every day. He works as a clerk in a DvD store and has held that job for over ten years. Some will find this funny, cue the clerks references, but it hurts me to see him just float in the nothingness. I can't even tell his mom what the problem is, because I'll lose his trust. And so it goes, I love him though.

Perhaps he's happy living simply and has no desire for the wealth-driven lifestyle pushed on us from birth.

Or he's just a lazy burnout. Pick one. On the plus side, he's responsible enough to maintain steady employment for a decade.

mekkab		2010-03-11 06:59:57 AM

jakomo002: Is he happy?

Of course not! He's not burning the midnight oil reaching for a middle management position, how on earth could he be happy?! HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A PLASMA SCREEN TV!!

Jimbo-slam		2010-03-11 07:00:10 AM

"A Child's Garden of Grass" ...one of the best "how to" books about weed. Very informative, very funny. Written in the early '70s I think.

I think.

silent tom		2010-03-11 07:03:35 AM

Neondistraction: My only issue with the article is when he's listing off various names for pot and he lists 'spliff'. That's not slang for pot, it's what they call joints over in the UK. He might as well have gone full Michael Scott and put hookah on the list too.

spliff is actually the name of one of my favorite bands from germany that was way popular in the early '80s. i've always wondered when it became slang for a doobie.

Blink		2010-03-11 07:03:55 AM

I don't smoke, I don't drink... I agree with the article. I think it's ridiculous how much pot is maligned while drinking alcohol is treated as some sort of vaunted state. From my observations, alcohol seems the far worse of the two.

But having said that, I really have no patience for people who paint pot-smoking as some sort of evolved virtue. Look, you smoke a foreign substance, it makes you feel good for accomplishing nothing. It's really nothing to be proud of. But as long as you don't hurt anyone with your vice, I'm cool with it.

2and4		2010-03-11 07:04:38 AM

That pretty much sums up the weed smokers I know.

Personally I began as a 'Visitor', graduated to 'regular' for three years in my twenties, became a 'Stoner' for about a year, then moved away from home. I mean to a new, strange, expensive city.

At that point I was worried about things like rent and bills. The folks weren't paying for anything and calling for money wasn't an option. Plus I had no idea where to get some weed.

After that, I regressed to 'Visitor', where I remain today.

Don't look for it, don't buy it. If someone slips me a joint, I might take it and smoke it by myself, four months later.

/not hating on weed smokers
//just sayin'

Occam's Chainsaw		2010-03-11 07:06:21 AM

Blink: But having said that, I really have no patience for people who paint ~~pot-smoking~~prayer as some sort of evolved virtue. Look, you ~~smoke a foreign substance~~talk to someone who isn't there, it makes you feel good for accomplishing nothing. It's really nothing to be proud of. But as long as you don't hurt anyone with your vice, I'm cool with it.

That knife cuts all sorts of ways.

/Does anyone actually have a rational reasoned pro-illegality argument anymore that isn't a product of the illegal-because-bad-because-illegal circlejerk?

MAYORBOB		2010-03-11 07:06:25 AM

I played this movie (new window) to warn them off the weed. No, really, it was for my pure entertainment.

/might want to bookmark the link and watch at your leisure.
//firmly convinced the director was on peyote when he filmed this one.
///visitor, back in the day.

mekkab		2010-03-11 07:07:36 AM

2and4: four months later.

Yum! maybe finish it off with a cigarette that got lost in the couch cushions from last june and some flat, warm, beer!

JonnyJustice		2010-03-11 07:09:18 AM

Phil Herup: It is a plant. It has been on Earth for eons. Now, in this small window of time in human history, some people have decided that you can't even posses this plant.

It is no different than a rose or a sunflower, or even a spot of crab grass. Except this one is illegal.

It is only illegal because some authoritarians have said it is. These same authoritarians have said that the tobacco plant is OK, and it is OK to ferment plants to make a toxic poison known as alcohol.

But you can't have this plant. If it grew on your property you could lose everything including your freedom.

The Founding Fathers would be pissed. One of them particularly so.

It is not a plant. It is a weed. However, your high-school "Dazed and Confused" logic is not lost on us.

Comparing hemp as a fabric to marijuana as a smoking agent, is like saying your poppy seed bagel is a reason for opium to be legal.

/Don't use stoner reasoning, it makes you sound dumb.
//Doesn't help your cause.

PainInTheASP		2010-03-11 07:10:28 AM

Shakespeare's Monkey: Generalizations are useless; yes there are wake and bakes that are reliable and run their own business. But, anyone can ruin their life by overindulging in an intoxicant and then making poor life decisions. I have a family member who is in his early 30s and smokes every day. He works as a clerk in a DvD store and has held that job for over ten years. Some will find this funny, cue the clerks references, but it hurts me to see him just float in the nothingness. I can't even tell his mom what the problem is, because I'll lose his trust. And so it goes, I love him though.

Yes, but is he happy? If he's reasonably productive, (mostly) law-abiding, and happy with what he is doing, you shouldn't interfere.

Occam's Chainsaw		2010-03-11 07:11:13 AM

JonnyJustice: It is not a plant. It is a weed.

JonnyJustice: stoner reasoning

You couldn't fail harder if you tried.

JonnyJustice		2010-03-11 07:16:16 AM

Occam's Chainsaw: JonnyJustice: It is not a plant. It is a weed.

JonnyJustice: stoner reasoning

You couldn't fail harder if you tried.

Go on...
Or is that your wake and bake response?

gadian		2010-03-11 07:17:10 AM

Shakespeare's Monkey: Generalizations are useless; yes there are wake and bakes that are reliable and run their own business. But, anyone can ruin their life by overindulging in an intoxicant and then making poor life decisions. I have a family member who is in his early 30s and smokes every day. He works as a clerk in a DvD store and has held that job for over ten years. Some will find this funny, cue the clerks references, but it hurts me to see him just float in the nothingness. I can't even tell his mom what the problem is, because I'll lose his trust. And so it goes, I love him though.

It sounds like you're the one who wants / needs him to do more. Sounds like your problem, not his. Let him have his life, such as it is. Steady employment in a seemingly menial position is not 'poor life choices' for many people.

Phil Herup		2010-03-11 07:17:15 AM

JonnyJustice: It is not a plant. It is a weed.

What? Did you just say that?

JonnyJustice: Don't use stoner reasoning, it makes you sound dumb.

Says the doofus who thinks plants and weeds are different. Thanks for the advice, but I think you might be retarded. Not to mention I mentioned not a thing about hemp pal. Some folks have brain cells they can afford to waste, you are not among those people me thinks.