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(The Consumerist)   Homeless man finds shelter by using hotel reward points earned when he had a high-paying job   (consumerist.com) divider line 102
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2010-03-10 10:49:19 PM
Slight increase in boot strap stock today.
 
2010-03-10 10:56:14 PM
"I should be in major-dollar earning years and I am losing major-dollar earning years, which I will not get back. That part is frustrating and a little scary."

Sounds kinda douchey.
 
2010-03-10 11:49:17 PM
"I should be in major-dollar earning years and I am losing major-dollar earning years, which I will not get back. That part is frustrating and a little scary."

Anybody who uses the term "major-dollar(s)" or "that's money" is a certifiable LA douchebag.

I'm sorry the guy lost his job. But I have not seen any quality IT people look for more than 3-4 months before landing on something.I have seen many bad IT people get laid-off in staggering numbers. Not quite enough though...

If this guy truly is an IT guy, I'll bet he's not very good. I would recommend he look for a new career.... maybe something like the guy that sprays that orangelo on the douchebags outside the clubs. That idea's so money it would bring in major-dollars. I'm certain.
 
2010-03-11 12:31:01 AM
"Pay my mortagage, or pay my BMW lease. Yeah, I totally made the right choice"
 
2010-03-11 12:52:42 AM
I expect this guy to obtain "Joe the Plumber" status and his own column on Pajamas Media in the near future.

"Stupid poor people! Why can't they just cash in their rewards points?"
 
2010-03-11 02:00:00 AM
Not 'sad'... do we have a 'lucky' tag?
 
2010-03-11 02:00:43 AM
StreetlightInTheGhetto: Not 'sad'... do we have a 'lucky' tag?

Wait, how is he lucky?
 
2010-03-11 02:03:34 AM
Heh, I've always said I'd do something like that if I were about to find myself homeless. Use all of the frequent flier miles I've accrued plus the hotel rewards and go be homeless in Hawaii once the hotel nights run out. At least there you won't freeze to death during the winter.
 
2010-03-11 02:08:25 AM
Six figure job? How much was his mortgage and BMW payments? Did he have this six figure job for only a few weeks? If you don't have savings after making that kind of money you deserve what you get, unless that kind of pay is equivalent to being a manager at McDonald's anywhere outside of LA.
 
2010-03-11 02:08:54 AM
Leasing a bmw but homeless? Doesn't make any sense to me.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2010-03-11 02:09:50 AM
...now, I maybe out of it, but...the guy had a 6 figure income.

He loses his job and has no savings? It doesn't sound like he has a family, and he was living in a condo. If he was barely getting by, then I don't get the BMW?

I have no sympathy for someone who had a great paying job, didn't plan for the future, and is now broke.
 
2010-03-11 02:10:00 AM
Cubansaltyballs: I'm sorry the guy lost his job. But I have not seen any quality IT people look for more than 3-4 months before landing on something.

If this guy truly is an IT guy, I'll bet he's not very good.


Could just be that he's foolishly holding out for a position with similar pay to what he lost. Though if that's the case he's a total dork. If you're effectively homeless, you take what you can get.
 
2010-03-11 02:11:23 AM
It's just a kiss away, it's just a kiss away
 
2010-03-11 02:15:37 AM
I would love, LOVE, to work one day at a BMW dealership to see what proportion of people can actually afford the car versus cannot afford it. I've always wanted to do this.

/My guess is 50% cannot/should not buy the car
//Guy at my work makes $17.00 p/h and drives a Z3
 
2010-03-11 02:15:45 AM
tbyte: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Not 'sad'... do we have a 'lucky' tag?

Wait, how is he lucky?


He's lucky because he's not living in a box.
 
2010-03-11 02:16:00 AM
WHAT.
THE.fark.

flugennock
March 10, 2010 6:14 PM
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'm srr, ths mthfark ws mkng >sx fgrs nd h >stll cldn't mk hs mrtgg nd h's lvng n hs BMW nd lvng ff rwrds pnts? Wht, r w sppsd t fl srr fr ths g r smthng? Thr r >rl hmlss ppl wh wr mkng lt lss thn sx fgrs wh md thr mrtggs nd >stll lst thr hms nd >dn't hv bttld f rwrds pnts t lv ff f. hp ths tl ds n fr. f DS.

The human species is a failure.
 
2010-03-11 02:20:39 AM
In a way I see his logic in keeping the beemer vs the house. There is a difference in showing up to an interview in a nice car and showing up with a "my house is paid for" claim.
 
2010-03-11 02:22:26 AM
Ok. I just read the article. This douche didn't save any money and pays a lease on a BMW. Screw him. He could have let his car go and got some roommates to pay his mortgage. He could have paid the rest of his bills if he had saved something from his nice income. He's too stupid for sympathy. He can't even prioritize for survival. Suffer douche bag, suffer.
 
2010-03-11 02:28:22 AM
Asmenoth: Six figure job? How much was his mortgage and BMW payments? Did he have this six figure job for only a few weeks? If you don't have savings after making that kind of money you deserve what you get, unless that kind of pay is equivalent to being a manager at McDonald's anywhere outside of LA.

Yeah. A quick google shows that a BMW 328i goes for about $420/mo, that's car-payment territory. Drop the lease and buy a used car for $1000 and in three months he would broken even (if he took it to a garage first for vetting+minor repairs) and probably would be ahead in four months.

If he sold most of the stuff in the storage shed, on the basis that he could purchase it all again after he got a job, he could drop the storage shed rent, plus make some short-term money.

Get a roomie for a year when he gets a job, and he'd probably come out all right. Oh, and at this point he should take the first job he's offered, even if it's taking orders at Burger King.

But then he'd have to lower his standards or something.
 
2010-03-11 02:28:29 AM
This is a great example of the perfect republican, other than the fact it should never gotten press. A bootstraper doesn't need any press.
 
2010-03-11 02:33:14 AM
It's easy to make fun of the guy, but I'd like to know how long the Internet Tough GuysTM in this thread could go if they lost their job tomorrow and had to go this long without being able to find something else.

/ His life seemed excessive, but in SoCal you need a car, and being unemployed he's not getting another one anytime soon.
// Cabbing to and from interviews would be a nightmare.
/// I'm a strong believer in karma. Douchey as he is, I wouldn't wish his fate on anyone.
 
2010-03-11 02:33:54 AM
How long until this is the basis of a Reality show on TV?
 
2010-03-11 02:35:43 AM
Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: It's just a kiss away, it's just a kiss away

I get it.
 
2010-03-11 02:38:44 AM
xsarien: It's easy to make fun of the guy, but I'd like to know how long the Internet Tough GuysTM in this thread could go if they lost their job tomorrow and had to go this long without being able to find something else.

/ His life seemed excessive, but in SoCal you need a car, and being unemployed he's not getting another one anytime soon.
// Cabbing to and from interviews would be a nightmare.
/// I'm a strong believer in karma. Douchey as he is, I wouldn't wish his fate on anyone.


Hi. I just moved back in with my parents to save money now that I have no job. Thank FSM Dad remodeled the garage, or I'd have to share the house with my parents.

My car is fully paid for and I still have savings, so I'm better off then this guy. Going back to college this spring to upgrade my skills. Jobs are picking up in Oregon, so hopefully I'll find something in a month or two.

I'm still doing better then this guy.
 
2010-03-11 02:46:00 AM
platedlizard: xsarien: It's easy to make fun of the guy, but I'd like to know how long the Internet Tough GuysTM in this thread could go if they lost their job tomorrow and had to go this long without being able to find something else.

/ His life seemed excessive, but in SoCal you need a car, and being unemployed he's not getting another one anytime soon.
// Cabbing to and from interviews would be a nightmare.
/// I'm a strong believer in karma. Douchey as he is, I wouldn't wish his fate on anyone.

Hi. I just moved back in with my parents to save money now that I have no job. Thank FSM Dad remodeled the garage, or I'd have to share the house with my parents.

My car is fully paid for and I still have savings, so I'm better off then this guy. Going back to college this spring to upgrade my skills. Jobs are picking up in Oregon, so hopefully I'll find something in a month or two.

I'm still doing better then this guy.


Cool story, bro.
 
2010-03-11 02:46:49 AM
Ned_Flanders: //Guy at my work makes $17.00 p/h and drives a Z3

Was it older when he bought it? You can get an older BMW for not that much, although they still cost a lot to drive.
 
2010-03-11 02:48:40 AM
He's in a fairly expensive area of the country $100,000 per year there is about the same as earning $60,000 in central Ohio. Its not uncomfortable and you can support a family on it pretty easily but you are merely comfortably middle class. Based on the way things sound he was trying to social climb a bit and was expecting things to continue at his present level for quite awhile. As for the IT thing, There are a good number of very under employed IT professionals that I know of right now. My ability to manage a secure data hosting server for 50+ remote offices, troubleshoot all of their computers, run our customized industry specific software including do minor mods, keep our customer and employee web sites accessible up to date and running are all being under utilized running a help desk and putting software images on a computer each time an employee screws it up at the new position. That would explain the 33% pay drop. I know of a bunch of other people who either took a pay cut to do the same work, had their long term employment lay off or go belly up and shift over to a much lesser job or took a job that under utilized them working for a secure industry or company.

Lets say he's a prideful fellow with fairly good unemployment benefits (some states pay you up to 66% of your old income up to a certain limit) he figured that he'd live off those looking for a job paying what he was used to making until right before those ran out. Another issue is that he could have been part of that group of merry idiots that took out balloon payment mortgages thinking they'd refinance in a few years, or sell. It can be really hard to get a new loan out of work. From the details here it doesn't sound like he did great wise things with his money but I'm also not willing to completely condemn him for being frivolous yet.
 
2010-03-11 03:01:40 AM
we_hates: Ned_Flanders: //Guy at my work makes $17.00 p/h and drives a Z3

Was it older when he bought it? You can get an older BMW for not that much, although they still cost a lot to drive.


Repairs to those things for the simplest crap are a zillion times higher than a domestic car. Nice cars though!
 
2010-03-11 03:03:16 AM
Maxor: Lets say he's a prideful fellow with fairly good unemployment benefits (some states pay you up to 66% of your old income up to a certain limit) he figured that he'd live off those looking for a job paying what he was used to making until right before those ran out. Another issue is that he could have been part of that group of merry idiots that took out balloon payment mortgages thinking they'd refinance in a few years, or sell. It can be really hard to get a new loan out of work. From the details here it doesn't sound like he did great wise things with his money but I'm also not willing to completely condemn him for being frivolous yet.

I doubt it. I typically see 5-7 different IT departments per month and if this guy is like 40% of the people I meet... He's going to be out of work for a really long time.

My company has an opening for a job that has been open for about a year or so. The job pays ~$120-$150k, and we've seen maybe 500 resumes for it. Most of the people applying are not very good.

I've seen Network security guys that don't understand why Telnet is bad. Routing and Switching guys that don't know the difference between PIM Sparse/Dense and Spanning Tree. I've met CCIE-Security and CISSP people that don't know what RFC 2196 is. This would be like a doctor not knowing the difference between a kidney and liver.

My favorite candidates are the ones that openly say they don't want to work nights or weekends... for f*ck's sake, we do consulting. 30% of our overall work, and 90% of the hardest work is done after hours.

Chances are the guy in the article rode the IT gravy train at his company the same way a lot of people rode the 'financial services' gravy train, and now that they got tossed off the train, they realize their skills are no good or aren't relevant.

If there is a sector with openings, like IT and healthcare, you have to come to the table showing what value you bring... not just the title you had before.
 
2010-03-11 03:04:41 AM
What a moran. How long ago did he lose his job, 8 years? Who makes 6 figures a year and saves NOTHING? I think we'll see more and more of these idiots who partied while the sun shined early this decade and now are giving BJs in the park for $6.
 
2010-03-11 03:05:15 AM
I hope someone steals his car.
 
2010-03-11 03:13:49 AM
xsarien: It's easy to make fun of the guy, but I'd like to know how long the Internet Tough GuysTM in this thread could go if they lost their job tomorrow and had to go this long without being able to find something else.


Approximately 16 months without having to cash in stocks, 8 months if I continue to funnel cash on hand towards investments.

I probably make about the same amount of money, or at least in the same ball park as this beemer driving douche. The difference is that I didn't over-extend myself and I save. I have no credit cards, no loans and I drive a (very nice and fuel efficient) used car that I bought 2 years ago for 4 grand.

Oddly enough, I am not a Republican.
 
2010-03-11 03:14:38 AM
noir_deluxe: I hope someone steals his car.

Win.
 
2010-03-11 03:19:27 AM
Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: What a moran. How long ago did he lose his job, 8 years? Who makes 6 figures a year and saves NOTHING?

See New York/California. There are probably a couple other spots where other complete and total ingrates live, but the aforementioned two take care of most of them.
 
2010-03-11 03:36:37 AM
His life is up in the air.

Is that why hipsters are so skinny?
 
2010-03-11 03:37:49 AM
I'm very paranoid, so if I made six figures, I'd spend 4 of them per year and save the rest.

Seriously, buy a really sweet van.
 
2010-03-11 03:44:26 AM
This guy should have planned for the future, like the lawyer that worked for CNN for about four years, walked away with a $4m severance package, AND took a bunch of internal memos to 'safeguard the public' while further ensuring that he'd be rich a pirate for years to come.

but seriously, the lawyer's a dbag. and so is this guy. and i hate using the word dbag.
 
2010-03-11 03:58:22 AM
He needs to stay at a Sheraton, it's where he belongs.
 
2010-03-11 04:04:03 AM
thelordofcheese: WHAT.
THE.fark.


On gawkermedia (and former gawkermedia) sites, when a post gets moderated, it is not just deleted, instead, they remove all of the vowels.

They call it"Disenvowling".
 
2010-03-11 04:13:45 AM
I not quite playing the world's smallest violin for this guy, but definitely not a very big one.
 
2010-03-11 04:21:17 AM
Maxor

He's in a fairly expensive area of the country $100,000 per year there is about the same as earning $60,000 in central Ohio. Its not uncomfortable and you can support a family on it pretty easily but you are merely comfortably middle class.

I'm not sure about the Bay Area, but here in LA, $100,000 would go a lot further than $60,000 in Ohio. Something like $75,000 would be comparable.

Maybe the disparity is more for homeowners, I don't know.
 
2010-03-11 04:58:14 AM
I think he'd reply here in these comments, but he had to go pay off his gym membership in 26 minutes.
 
2010-03-11 05:26:33 AM
Cost of housing is almost all of the difference.
 
2010-03-11 05:50:32 AM
The article linked off the blog has some interesting tidbits.
He has a 375 bottle wine collection and a set of golf clubs.
He can only afford $5/day for food, but drives to the supermarket and only buys a gallon of water and a frozen dinner.

Lose the lease, sell the crap, get a cheap apartment and a roommate
 
2010-03-11 06:04:37 AM
MBK: ...now, I maybe out of it, but...the guy had a 6 figure income.

He loses his job and has no savings? It doesn't sound like he has a family, and he was living in a condo. If he was barely getting by, then I don't get the BMW?

I have no sympathy for someone who had a great paying job, didn't plan for the future, and is now broke.


This. Seriously, 6 figures, where did it all go?

If he couldn't pay the mortgage, sell the house and start renting something small.
 
2010-03-11 06:13:37 AM
buzzcut73: Heh, I've always said I'd do something like that if I were about to find myself homeless. Use all of the frequent flier miles I've accrued plus the hotel rewards and go be homeless in Hawaii once the hotel nights run out. At least there you won't freeze to death during the winter.

You'll get killed by meth heads.
 
2010-03-11 06:32:11 AM
platedlizard: Yeah. A quick google shows that a BMW 328i goes for about $420/mo, that's car-payment territory. Drop the lease and buy a used car for $1000 and in three months he would broken even (if he took it to a garage first for vetting+minor repairs) and probably would be ahead in four months.

I kept wanting to say that to a previous boss who was spending £1k a month on hiring two cars for work use. They could have easily picked up two cars of a similar age and type and brake even of the cost in a year. Especially as they were still paying the servicing costs on the rentals as well!
 
2010-03-11 06:49:00 AM
So if he had a high paying job, why doesn't he have a large savings account with which to fall back on?
 
2010-03-11 06:55:44 AM
thelordofcheese: WHAT.
THE.fark.

flugennock
March 10, 2010 6:14 PM
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'm srr, ths mthfark ws mkng >sx fgrs nd h >stll cldn't mk hs mrtgg nd h's lvng n hs BMW nd lvng ff rwrds pnts? Wht, r w sppsd t fl srr fr ths g r smthng? Thr r >rl hmlss ppl wh wr mkng lt lss thn sx fgrs wh md thr mrtggs nd >stll lst thr hms nd >dn't hv bttld f rwrds pnts t lv ff f. hp ths tl ds n fr. f DS.

The human species is a failure.


Dear flugennock:

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2010-03-11 07:08:37 AM
Leased BMW + unemployment checks = no sympathy
 
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