I know a girl with the last name Castro. Hmm, I wonder...

HavanaCare

I_Am_Weasel: Yeah, but American already gets that. Mind you, you have to go back to January 2009 the last time a dick was removed.

Has it been that long since someone was banned on FARK?

Hey Subby, I'm hoping the Cool tag applies because you don't live in Cuba?

It's not gay if he's a woman?

you can get that in Canada too. smells like... freedom?

demonfaerie: HotWingConspiracy: It's not gay if he's a woman?

Gender and sexual orientation are two different things.

Whatever.

To most people, they're not. it's a TINY TINY TINY number of people ... like 2%.

MOST PEOPLE ARE STRAIGHT AND HAPPY WITH IT.

Please stop pretending that asserting this fact is hate-speech.

for most people, the narrative of heterosexuality and mate-choosing is very very true. Stop making people think that heteronormativism is evil.

I_Am_Weasel: Yeah, but American already gets that. Mind you, you have to go back to January 2009 the last time a dick was removed.

I know more transgendered 'lesbians' with penises then anyone outside of the castro should.

xraycat: Hey Subby, I'm hoping the Cool tag applies because you don't live in Cuba?


+1 farking this.

How is this cool? Waaaa my genetics are at odds with my feelings. Someone else should pay to fix it for me! This goes in the bucket of not-a-social-problem with boob implants and cosmetic hair transplants. Pay for it with your own damn money.

You can have that done in the US to, all you have to do is go to prison and then sue to have government pay for it.

Hopefully they didn't give her four boobs.

/Or maybe they charge extra for that

This explains why we haven't seen Fidel in a while.

hockeyfarker: you can get that in Canada too. smells like... freedom?

Yes. Because freedom is having the government take 25% of your pay to cover the cost of things like paying for people's sex change operations.

Ahh, fresh attached meat.

Perhaps Subby was tag trolling???

This is the kind of thing people would go ape shiat over if it happened in America, with federal healthcare.

There is no need for that kind of stuff to be covered.

I expect this thread to be full of rational-minded people that fully understand what transgender/transexual people go through.

not free.

the patient may not get a bill, but no not confuse that with "free."

This does not deserve the tag.

It deserves the following tags:

Free castrations from Castro? Say what?

sparrow794: Yes. Because freedom is having the government take 25% of your pay to cover the cost of things like paying for people's sex change operations.

hey, I live in New York City ... where can I move where government *ONLY* takes 25% of my income?

Fed + NYC + NYS + Salestax = 50%

That being said ... I'd really like to get healthcare with that package, even if it means we need handle a few TG cases. Seriously, this is reality. Society demands compromise. You want purity? Go build yourself a unibomber-style shack.

/presently makes below the median national income ...
// YA RLY ... 50%

Good to know you can still go abroad and come back a broad.

rubi_con_man: hey, I live in New York City ... where can I move where government *ONLY* takes 25% of my income?

In WA (Seattle area), my wife and I pay probably.. 30% or so of our income in taxes, between income/payroll/property/sales tax. Maybe a little bit more.

good on them.

kukukupo: This is the kind of thing people would go ape shiat over if it happened in America, with federal healthcare.

There is no need for that kind of stuff to be covered.

why?

demonfaerie: I didn't read the full article so I have no idea if the govt is paying for the entire deal like you stated or not.

TFA didn't help - at closest it said these operations in the states can cost from $10k-$100k (that's quite a range btw). But Cuba wasn't releasing its costs. That said, I dont think there is any sort of co-pay down there.

Congenital conditions should be taken care of. Usually they are, at birth, and usually the person winds up being a girl (because it's easier). But that's not what we're talking about here - we're talking about a genetic-normal who "feels" like he should be a woman.

Now, funnily, I'm actually sort of ok with this happening (in cuba) because Cuban doctors are state employees and can operate only through state-policy. Policy says no operations for this, no operations will (legally) occur. There *is* no viable alternative for these poor bastards. So whereas I think they should be absolutely free to obtain this procedure if they so choose, because of the way the system is - they can't pay for these changes even if they wanted to. This is a pretty twisted result of a stupid statist policy.

demonfaerie: vaderstg: xraycat: Hey Subby, I'm hoping the Cool tag applies because you don't live in Cuba?


+1 farking this.

How is this cool? Waaaa my genetics are at odds with my feelings. Someone else should pay to fix it for me! This goes in the bucket of not-a-social-problem with boob implants and cosmetic hair transplants. Pay for it with your own damn money.

I didn't read the full article so I have no idea if the govt is paying for the entire deal like you stated or not. If so yeah I can see how that is silly. However, if it is just the genitals I don't see why it is a big deal. What about people who were born with both genitals? Transgendered have a large suicide rate, and I think having one simple operation to keep someone from killing or hurting themselves is by far better for society as a whole.

Or they can pay for it themselves.

"Man, I really have this body issue, it's farking with my psyche. I really need to get an Arm Change, I know I was meant to be born with metal arms, but it just didn't happen. No one understands what I'm going through, you just don't know. Won't you please pay for my metal arms? I really need to bend steel."

xraycat: Or they can pay for it themselves.

Not in Cuba they can't.

Nightjars: rubi_con_man: hey, I live in New York City ... where can I move where government *ONLY* takes 25% of my income?

In WA (Seattle area), my wife and I pay probably.. 30% or so of our income in taxes, between income/payroll/property/sales tax. Maybe a little bit more.

Yeah, but you don't live in a real city.

vaderstg:
Congenital conditions should be taken care of. Usually they are, at birth, and usually the person winds up being a girl (because it's easier). But that's not what we're talking about here - we're talking about a genetic-normal who "feels" like he should be a woman.


Agreed.

what a Cuban Transexxual might look like:


/hot hot hot like the link!

I just had an egg McMuffin it was yummy :-)

Yeah very cool. If there is one thing I want my tax money going for, it's free sex change operations.

I_Am_Weasel: Yeah, but American already gets that. Mind you, you have to go back to January 2009 the last time a dick was removed.

Indeed. They swapped out a dick with a pussy. Come on, you shoulda seen that coming.

Oh, and might as well... Obamacare!

hockeyfarker: you can get that in Canada too. smells like... freedom Massengill?

Fixed (so to speak)

Do you know what you call a Cuban doctor in America? I'm not sure either but it's usually something along the lines of carpenter.

demonfaerie: NiceBeaver: vaderstg:
Congenital conditions should be taken care of. Usually they are, at birth, and usually the person winds up being a girl (because it's easier). But that's not what we're talking about here - we're talking about a genetic-normal who "feels" like he should be a woman.


Agreed.

What if they picked the wrong sex for the child that doesn't go with the child's gender? The person has to go through another surgery? Also what about men or women who have an extra chromosome like XXY? Outside wise they are one sex but chromosomely they can be either one or both.

In my "perfect" world, the first situation you present, provided it's based on a congenital basis and not just because Steve wants to become Eve, would be considered a covered anomaly.

I'm not a geneticist, but based upon my understanding, the latter scenario still unequivocally produces a male, albeit with certain medical issues, but still a male.

I_Am_Weasel: Yeah, but American already gets that. Mind you, you have to go back to January 2009 the last time a dick was removed.

Trig, quit playing on your momma's computer.

Coconice: not free.

the patient may not get a bill, but no not confuse that with "free."

The first cost is you have to live in Cuba. If I were in the market for a sex change, I think I'd be willing to spend a little money in Thailand. The best of the best don't live in shiatholes and work for free.

xraycat: "Man, I really have this body issue, it's farking with my psyche. I really need to get an Arm Change, I know I was meant to be born with metal arms, but it just didn't happen. No one understands what I'm going through, you just don't know. Won't you please pay for my metal arms? I really need to bend steel."

Do you find it hard to live with such a small mind ?

I watched the HBO show about the Bunny Ranch just last weekend and on it was featured a post-op trans formerly a man. His/Her fantasy was to be with 2 women. Of course such things are possible at a brothel. If you guessed he/she/ strapped on a dildo and nailed the girls, you win one internet. Irony?? Me thinks so.

Big_Fat_Liar> Coconice: not free.

the patient may not get a bill, but no not confuse that with "free."

The first cost is you have to live in Cuba. If I were in the market for a sex change, I think I'd be willing to spend a little money in Thailand. The best of the best don't live in shiatholes and work for free.

And you know that Cuba is a shiathole because you've spent a lot of time there, correct ?

As far as healthcare goes, yeah in Cuba doctors are not paid a lot, but the standard of healthcare is still very high. For starters, thanks to free healtcare for all the life expenctancy in Cuba is actually higher than in the US (probably because child and infant mortality rates are lower).

rubi_con_man: sparrow794: Yes. Because freedom is having the government take 25% of your pay to cover the cost of things like paying for people's sex change operations.

hey, I live in New York City ... where can I move where government *ONLY* takes 25% of my income?

Fed + NYC + NYS + Salestax = 50%

That being said ... I'd really like to get healthcare with that package, even if it means we need handle a few TG cases. Seriously, this is reality. Society demands compromise. You want purity? Go build yourself a unibomber-style shack.

/presently makes below the median national income ...
// YA RLY ... 50%

While I won't disagree with you about government-provided health care, the 10th amendment makes that an issue for the state to consider, not the federal government.

"The 'S' stands for "Sex-change W 9/11 Columbine skinned-rabbits"

Sometimes just using the right tag is good enough to fan the flames.

capt.hollister: xraycat: "Man, I really have this body issue, it's farking with my psyche. I really need to get an Arm Change, I know I was meant to be born with metal arms, but it just didn't happen. No one understands what I'm going through, you just don't know. Won't you please pay for my metal arms? I really need to bend steel."

Do you find it hard to live with such a small mind ?

No, but I do find it hard to live without metal arms.