I hope these heinous criminals prevail in their lawsuit against these pussy cops.

"OWWWWW!!! He hit me with a snowball!!!"

What an utter waste of tax payer's money. I wonder how many felons will get an early release to make space for these dangerous snow ballers....

Did they really think the pathetically staged photo in TFA was a good idea?

This is a joke charge, they should be going after whoever supplied them with the weapons and find out how they got them into the country.

Whatever happened to a few hours in a jail cell until your wife comes and gets you? That usually worked. You didn't even have to feed them.

The comments section of the article is damn funny. Not sure what really happened so I guess I'll just wait and see.

He broke Niven's First Law.

The officer who was hit needs to check his snowballs at the door.

He won't be needing them anymore, and chances are he never did.

Kurmudgeon: What an utter waste of tax payer's money. I wonder how many felons will get an early release to make space for these dangerous snow ballers....


What a snowballer may look like.

Furious Mongoose: The cop's story and their story is vastly different. Would be interesting to know what actually happened.

you sir are the only rational person here apparantly. Each story is extremely different from the other. Clearly one side is lying in a big way, but I see no reason to believe one over the other. Unfortunately, things like this will often ben judged by characterizing the people in question. The culprits have priors, which does not bode well. I wonder what this cops record is in the past. Frankly, i would not be shocked if the supposed culprits were in the wrong and were harassing some guy. Was the guy right to pull his gun? Well what should he have done? Reasoned with them. This will not have a good ending. To many questions and no concrete answers.

Hard to tell who is lying in this one but I put odds it's the cop who is lying through his teeth.

patrick767: Did they really think the pathetically staged photo in TFA was a good idea?

absolutely not. Honestly, the first thing i said when i saw it was, these kids got a good lawyer and hes playing up the media. So far hes doing a good job of it, given the article. But they do not look super innocent to me.

I hope it was yellow snow...

Huge difference in the stories, either could be lying...

trappedspirit: Uh, yeah, we should let people throw snowballs at cops?

Well, to be fair, he wasn't in uniform. It's not like the singled out an authority figure to harass.

namatad: Furious Mongoose: The cop's story and their story is vastly different. Would be interesting to know what actually happened.

give them all lie detector tests
and if the cop is the one who is lying
put him in prison for a VERY LONG TIME
pulling a gun on people for throwing snowballs? WTF

on the other hand, if the kids were menacing?
well they will find out what prison is like

I am betting that the transit cop got all uppity.
do you know who I am?
I am impotent!!

Lie detector results are not admissible as evidence.

I am inclined to believe the cop on this one. They thought it would be funny to throw snowballs at him and he reacted accordingly. It is a bad idea to throw anything at the police. But I could be wrong as I was not there.

I've been on the lam for over 30 years for crimes committed during my childhood.

If the cop's story is correct then I'd side with him. If the guys were being dicks and harassing him for giggles then it's still battery, right? Plus, have you ever been hit with a hard packed snow/ice ball? That shiat hurts.

On the other hand, I could see some scuz-bucket variety cop making up the story to justify pulling his piece on them because he was pissed off about something else.

/hopes there was a security camera somewhere nearby that caught the action.

Panty Sniffer: namatad: Furious Mongoose: The cop's story and their story is vastly different. Would be interesting to know what actually happened.

give them all lie detector tests
and if the cop is the one who is lying
put him in prison for a VERY LONG TIME
pulling a gun on people for throwing snowballs? WTF

on the other hand, if the kids were menacing?
well they will find out what prison is like

I am betting that the transit cop got all uppity.
do you know who I am?
I am impotent!!

Lie detector results are not admissible as evidence.

I am inclined to believe the cop on this one. They thought it would be funny to throw snowballs at him and he reacted accordingly. It is a bad idea to throw anything at the police. But I could be wrong as I was not there.

I'm inclined to believe them. He was off duty, out of uniform. If a stray one hit him, I could see him throwing an ego trip and demanding their arrest. the blue line would back him up no matter who was at fault.

I remember being "written up" in like the 1st grade for throwing a snowball at an empty field during recess.

Boddhisatva: If the cop's story is correct then I'd side with him.


The criminal complaint says Ramirez told cops someone in the group said, "Let's jump him" in Spanish - though the defendants point out only one of them speaks the language.


I'm gonna side with the kids...

Junior Barnes, you gunky!

/I'm old

namatad: give them all lie detector tests

Lie detectors are Bullshiat™!

I've been knocked silly by an iceball before. I'm willing to bet that the playful snowballs in the photograph are not the same type of projectile as the one that they hit the guy with.

Ever seen a Palestinian with a rock? Now just imagine the rocks are made of ice. It's dangerous stuff.

I say lock the hooligans up.

Seth'n'Spectrum: trappedspirit: Uh, yeah, we should let people throw snowballs at cops?

Well, to be fair, he wasn't in uniform. It's not like the singled out an authority figure to harass.

Yea but it doesnt make them any more right. Just because he might not have been a cop doesnt make it ok. I dont think your saying that, im just closing the thread there.


pwhp_67: Boddhisatva: If the cop's story is correct then I'd side with him.


The criminal complaint says Ramirez told cops someone in the group said, "Let's jump him" in Spanish - though the defendants point out only one of them speaks the language.


I'm gonna side with the kids...

thank the lord you do not work in the court system. First of all, who knows how much Spanish each of them knows. Secondly, if you live in new york, people use lots of spanish slang in common usage and dont necessarilly speak spanish. So who knows what they said if they said anything. Like I said. This is all he said she said. And if the kids have priors. then its gonna be them who pays. I guarantee they dont go to jail. But I bet they dont get a dime.

Not to stand up for the cops (I think they are overreacting), but I'm going to have to call b.s. on the kids' story of "we accidentally hit him with an errant snowball". Yeah, right. That's the kind of story you told your mom when you were curious if you were accurate enough with a frisbee to hit that kid over there.

pwhp_67: I'm gonna side with the kids...

The youngest one is 18. They aren't kids.

Antimatter: I'm inclined to believe them. He was off duty, out of uniform. If a stray one hit him, I could see him throwing an ego trip and demanding their arrest. the blue line would back him up no matter who was at fault.

As I said, I wasn't there. Who knows what happened?

The cop is a lying pig. His story doesn't make sense on any level whatsoever.

I hope those kids get their $10 million.

Approve, and disapprove, respectively.

/Try not to suck any dicks on your way to the parking lot!
//Hey, get back here!

namatad:
give them all lie detector tests
and if the cop is the one who is lying
put him in prison for a VERY LONG TIME
pulling a gun on people for throwing snowballs? WTF


That's a great idea! And maybe then we can get Madame Cleo to perform a tarot reading and determine what punishment is to be found in their future. Better yet, let's get the judge a Ouija board and let the spirits of justice determine their fate.

Even if the cop's story is 100% accurate, a year in jail and a weapons charge seems a bit much for snowballs. Unless they had rocks in them...

vinnydoz007: I guarantee they dont go to jail. But I bet they dont get a dime.


I'm not saying they should win the lawsuit.

I'm saying I think the "cop" is blowing it out of proportion and that they shouldn't go to jail. If they are lying then they're probably scared shiatless now over the possibility of going to jail. That seems like enough...

Isn't this how the Boston Massacre started?

They shoulda harassed a parking cop. They deserve it and the police hate them too, and won't respond to harassment calls they call it.

Everybody wins.

"Criminal possession of a weapon" will be dismissed out of hand. It doesn't say what the other charges are, but if the cop is claiming to have identified himself prior to being hit with a snowball then there is likely to be an "assaulting an officer of the law" charge, which because if its seriousness will garner careful examination of the facts. Without witnesses though, it will likely all be dismissed. If none of the charges are felonies though it will very likely result in misdemeanor convictions, which would probably send at least one of the kids back to the slammer for violation of terms.

Would bet my life that both parties are lying.

Panty Sniffer: The youngest one is 185. They aren't kids.

FTFY

Rohasman: Panty Sniffer: The youngest one is 185. They aren't kids.

FTFY

My mistake. I was going by the picture's caption.

Thank goodness it wasn't a stapler or something vile.

Disappointed this is not followup on the "DC snowball cop". I'm still waiting to hear more than he's driving a desk now.

I like how the report from the police stated everything as a matter of fact.

Instead of saying that the youths allegedly threw the snowballs they are reading it as it would have been written in the cops statement.

/still don't know the truth though.