/ *ducks*

"These are not the pumps you're looking for."

xanadian
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"These are not the FARKers you're looking for."

NikolaiFarkoff: Forget price stability, I'm just waiting for a federally mandated gap between the single price on the sign and the other 2 grades. I hate those one-price signs.

On the same corner, Chevron sells 93 for the price of 87 plus 30 cents (a fair gap, IMO).

BP sells 93 for the price of 87 plus...a dollar! Now tell me how many people are buying 93 at that station...idiots.

There's a station in a little bump-in-the-road town down the road that sells regular at about $2.60/gal and premium at $5.60/gal. Most of the numbers on their sign have fallen off, but those are the prices listed on the pump.

NikolaiFarkoff:
BP sells 93 for the price of 87 plus...a dollar! Now tell me how many people are buying 93 at that station...idiots.

Really how many people but 93 octane? The only thing I ever use it for is the lawn mower, becaues that's how my grandfather taught me. But most people aren't pulling into BP in a Koenigsegg.

did someone call me?

Luke use the force to control the price it is running thru you and your car.

The energy companies will bleed you until you are sucked dry, then go after you kids.

Ashtrey: NikolaiFarkoff:
BP sells 93 for the price of 87 plus...a dollar! Now tell me how many people are buying 93 at that station...idiots.

Really how many people but 93 octane? The only thing I ever use it for is the lawn mower, becaues that's how my grandfather taught me. But most people aren't pulling into BP in a Koenigsegg.

Turbo Saab, turbo Subaru, turbo Porsche, turbo Audi, turbo VW, turbo Honda, supercharged Mustang...

headline made me lol

Nobody understands octane.

You can just buy regular and an additive cheaper.

It's really a scam.

Also, I use an insert in my gas tank that aligns the magnetic poles of the of the octanes for greater power using a turbine vortex.

It's really very simple physics, people. Don't be a slave to your cars.

jagec: Ashtrey: NikolaiFarkoff:
BP sells 93 for the price of 87 plus...a dollar! Now tell me how many people are buying 93 at that station...idiots.

Really how many people but 93 octane? The only thing I ever use it for is the lawn mower, becaues that's how my grandfather taught me. But most people aren't pulling into BP in a Koenigsegg.

Turbo Saab, turbo Subaru, turbo Porsche, turbo Audi, turbo VW, turbo Honda, supercharged Mustang...

Yea... I got a supercharged Grand Prix handed down to me and I can't use anything less than 92 or else I get knocking.

Idiot. Jedi mind tricks don't work on Hutts.

jagec: Turbo Saab, turbo Subaru, turbo Porsche, turbo Audi, turbo VW, turbo Honda, supercharged Mustang...

Does that mean that next time I borrow my friend's turbo PT Cruiser I should be putting 93 in it? She probably should have told me that before I drove it 1200 miles on 87.

Ashtrey: jagec: Turbo Saab, turbo Subaru, turbo Porsche, turbo Audi, turbo VW, turbo Honda, supercharged Mustang...

Does that mean that next time I borrow my friend's turbo PT Cruiser I should be putting 93 in it? She probably should have told me that before I drove it 1200 miles on 87.

Most of them have knock sensors because stupid owners don't read the manual, but: short answer, yes.

/I wouldn't be a bit surprised if she used 87 in it as well.

If we used deployed the modifications that Detroit buried when they had power, we could increase the fuel efficiency of the exisitng fleet by 37%.

This would reduce our dependancy on foreign oil, causing our overseas military operations to cease, and nullify the IMF, bringing peace and economic choice and hope to the so-called 'third-world'.

Ashtrey: jagec: Turbo Saab, turbo Subaru, turbo Porsche, turbo Audi, turbo VW, turbo Honda, supercharged Mustang...

Does that mean that next time I borrow my friend's turbo PT Cruiser I should be putting 93 in it? She probably should have told me that before I drove it 1200 miles on 87.

The ECM will autmatically adjust the timing for the lower octane rating. Most modern cars with some type of engine management have knock sensors.

You won't be making nearly as much power and you'll be getting worse mileage, but it won't hurt the car. But yeah, most forced induction engines recommend minimum 91.

Also, nitrogen in your tires, people.

jagec: Ashtrey: NikolaiFarkoff:
BP sells 93 for the price of 87 plus...a dollar! Now tell me how many people are buying 93 at that station...idiots.

Really how many people but 93 octane? The only thing I ever use it for is the lawn mower, becaues that's how my grandfather taught me. But most people aren't pulling into BP in a Koenigsegg.

Turbo Saab, turbo Subaru, turbo Porsche, turbo Audi, turbo VW, turbo Honda, supercharged Mustang...

Yep, my GTI requires 93+ fuel, putting something else in it like 87 results in bad misfires and stalling... thanks mom for the thought...

Nanan: Yep, my GTI requires 93+ fuel, putting something else in it like 87 results in bad misfires and stalling... thanks mom for the thought...

You don't have to live life under the knuckles of ExxonMobilBPAmoco, you know.

jagec: Most of them have knock sensors because stupid owners don't read the manual, but: short answer, yes.

/I wouldn't be a bit surprised if she used 87 in it as well.

Mose: The ECM will autmatically adjust the timing for the lower octane rating. Most modern cars with some type of engine management have knock sensors.

You won't be making nearly as much power and you'll be getting worse mileage, but it won't hurt the car. But yeah, most forced induction engines recommend minimum 91.

Well, I've learned something from Fark today, thanks guys. Now to tell my friend that she needs to be putting the really expensive gas in her car.

High octane is for high-compression engines, because it is less likely to knock or diesel (detonate without spark under compression).

High-compression engines are mostly supercharged or turbocharged, but there are some high-performance naturally aspirated engines that need it, too.

Also if your engine has deposits in it, they can act as hot spots that will cause detonation, so high-octane might help there, too.

High-octane gasoline doesn't make your car go faster. That would be nitrous oxide.

Ashtrey: jagec: Turbo Saab, turbo Subaru, turbo Porsche, turbo Audi, turbo VW, turbo Honda, supercharged Mustang...

Does that mean that next time I borrow my friend's turbo PT Cruiser I should be putting 93 in it? She probably should have told me that before I drove it 1200 miles on 87.

No, that means you should kick yourself in the nuts for driving a PT Cruiser.

griffer: Nobody understands octane.

You can just buy regular and an additive cheaper.

It's really a scam.

Also, I use an insert in my gas tank that aligns the magnetic poles of the of the octanes for greater power using a turbine vortex.

It's really very simple physics, people. Don't be a slave to your cars.

lol, what?

/if you have a miraculous scientific magical fix involving magnets, you probably aren't competent to be driving.

//and the magnets will cure your smoking
///and provide free energy

jagec: Ashtrey: NikolaiFarkoff:
BP sells 93 for the price of 87 plus...a dollar! Now tell me how many people are buying 93 at that station...idiots.

Really how many people but 93 octane? The only thing I ever use it for is the lawn mower, becaues that's how my grandfather taught me. But most people aren't pulling into BP in a Koenigsegg.

Turbo Saab, turbo Subaru, turbo Porsche, turbo Audi, turbo VW, turbo Honda, supercharged Mustang...

2002 VW Passat wagon - doesn't even need to be a turbo.

/and yes, 87 knocks like a motherfarker.
//and farks with the emissions controls.

Ashtrey: Now to tell my friend that she needs to be putting the really expensive gas in her car.

Oh my jesus, NO!

Don't be a sheep!

Fight the oil companies!

They can't get enough blood money, so they pad their spread and trick you with gimmicks like 'v-tec' and 'octane'.

Live under the knuckles? hell I work in the oil refinery service industry, they make me money.

Pappy091: No, that means you should kick yourself in the nuts for driving a PT Cruiser.

Normally I'd agree, but on the last good day of autumn a good long drive in a turbo-charged car with the top down wasn't a bad experience. Hell I didn't have to look at the damn thing.

jagec: Ashtrey: NikolaiFarkoff:
BP sells 93 for the price of 87 plus...a dollar! Now tell me how many people are buying 93 at that station...idiots.

Really how many people but 93 octane? The only thing I ever use it for is the lawn mower, becaues that's how my grandfather taught me. But most people aren't pulling into BP in a Koenigsegg.

Turbo Saab, turbo Subaru, turbo Porsche, turbo Audi, turbo VW, turbo Honda, supercharged Mustang...

And if you drive them you can either pay the asked for price or GO TO A CHEAPER STATION, derp.

ham006: jagec: Ashtrey: NikolaiFarkoff:
BP sells 93 for the price of 87 plus...a dollar! Now tell me how many people are buying 93 at that station...idiots.

Really how many people but 93 octane? The only thing I ever use it for is the lawn mower, becaues that's how my grandfather taught me. But most people aren't pulling into BP in a Koenigsegg.

Turbo Saab, turbo Subaru, turbo Porsche, turbo Audi, turbo VW, turbo Honda, supercharged Mustang...

And if you drive them you can either pay the asked for price or GO TO A CHEAPER STATION, derp.

That's cute, you think there's variance in price within local gas markets.

stryker4526: ham006: jagec: Ashtrey: NikolaiFarkoff:

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That's cute, you think there's variance in price within local gas markets.


You could save a whole 10c if you go 20 miles down the road to the stop-n-save.

Voiceofreason01: if you have a miraculous scientific

I have the data.

Have you actually read the studies?

Have you modified your engine?

Who are you to dismiss it?

It's not magnets in a bracelet, asshole, it's a magnetic vortex that much like a centrifuge, aligss the polar elements of the carbon chains to creat combustion efficiencies while reducing emissions.

Pro tip: Emissions are the carbons that are missed because they are facing the wrong way at the time of combustion; they are lsot potential.

I didn't stop learning when I finished high school physics and chemistry, and I don't take the establishments published theories as gospel. But you do.

'Only the questing mind finds the breakthroughs.' I live by this.

BTW, did you know why most major technological breakthroughs came from 'outsiders'?

Because of the dialectic. The establishment is always threatened by innovation and reactionaries seek to contain and repress it.

stryker4526: ham006: jagec: Ashtrey: NikolaiFarkoff:
BP sells 93 for the price of 87 plus...a dollar! Now tell me how many people are buying 93 at that station...idiots.

Really how many people but 93 octane? The only thing I ever use it for is the lawn mower, becaues that's how my grandfather taught me. But most people aren't pulling into BP in a Koenigsegg.

Turbo Saab, turbo Subaru, turbo Porsche, turbo Audi, turbo VW, turbo Honda, supercharged Mustang...

And if you drive them you can either pay the asked for price or GO TO A CHEAPER STATION, derp.

That's cute, you think there's variance in price within local gas markets.

Exactly. It is a fully integrated vertical cartel. Price fixing is derigeur, fools.

High compression is the reason for higher octane, may not be required in most cars as stated before because of computer controlled fuel management. I my 98 corvette it will not run well on low octane stalls but it will run.

You get more power from lower octane if your car runs on it, ignites at a lower compression. Most high proformance cars need higher octane to run correctly.

\That does not change the fact that oil companies have us by the short hairs. Energy is the largest industy in the world controls goverments around the world with money the realy power

You can always buy a Toyota, good luck.

griffer: Nobody understands octane.

You can just buy regular and an additive cheaper.

Clearly you are one of those that doesn't. While higher octane isn't better, that doesn't mean it isn't useful. It is useful in the case the car manufacturer says it is. If you check the manual (and often near the fuel intake) for your car, it'll tell you what kind of gas it needs. This will vary depending on the kind of engine you have. Broadly speaking, the higher the compression the higher the octane fuel it'll want.

Just give your car what it is spec'd for and it'll run the best. In many cases, that is low octane fuel. However do check. You find that the tiny, turbo charged engines that are somewhat popular are often spec'd for higher octane fuel.

griffer: Voiceofreason01: if you have a miraculous scientific

I have the data.

Have you actually read the studies?

Have you modified your engine?

Who are you to dismiss it?

It's not magnets in a bracelet, asshole, it's a magnetic vortex that much like a centrifuge, aligss the polar elements of the carbon chains to creat combustion efficiencies while reducing emissions.

Pro tip: Emissions are the carbons that are missed because they are facing the wrong way at the time of combustion; they are lsot potential.



You better be careful with that, it could open a wormhole in your gas tank. Then how would you save your gas when it gets sucked into another dimension????

My modified engine in my offroad toy of a truck needs midgrade to not knock empty and premium to not knock when loaded.

I make a living off the oil comapanies, so I'm getting a kick....


/bonus' in the form of gas cards!! FTW!!!

griffer: It's not magnets in a bracelet, asshole, it's a magnetic vortex that much like a centrifuge, aligss the polar elements of the carbon chains to creat combustion efficiencies while reducing emissions.

sycraft: If you check the manual (and often near the fuel intake) for your car, it'll tell you what kind of gas it needs. This will vary depending on the kind of engine you have.

No, it varires by the pre ordained quotas.

Look, car manufactures work with the oil companies to create a false sense of quality difference in what is effectively a commodity.

Par to of this is mandating that a certain number of vehicles are labelled Premium Only. To create a market, DUH!

Simply look at two things- the wholesale gas suppliers who send the same gas to your precious "ExxonMobil" as to the "BP" in th esame zip code. Where's your brand differentiation now, pal? IT'S THE SAME GAS!

Second, look at the myth of 'leaded' gas. Like radium-water peddlers of old, these leaded gases dissappeared when the word lead became negative. Did cars stop running? NO! 'Unleaded' was a marketing gimmick like '0 transfats'. Who cares if there is lead in gas? It doesn't get ingested and it sure doens't impact the perfromance of the car!

Smoke and MIRRORS!