Feed him a few more and let him go either way.

Probably the same guy who told the Guv they couldn't find a vein...I'm sure he really gives a shiat.

What a brilliant way to escape an almost completely painless death; by attempting to kill yourself in a vastly more painful and vomit filled fashion.

Perhaps he just wanted to be stoned for a terrifying experience.

Either way, somebody at the department of corrections is probably feeling rather nervous about their job tonight.

On the case.

They approve

I didn't know you could be executed for killing one person.

Meanwhile, the Ohio State Executions Commissioner says, "we shall not put down any prisoner before his time."

Blame it on the a a a a a a alcohol

This could be one of those situations both death penalty supporters and opponents could agree on: Why farking bother? They're basically keeping someone alive to kill him the next day. I appreciate that the rule of law says you're only allowed to kill someone in a very specific fashion, but depending on your view, it's either wasteful or hypocritical.

Barfmaker: I can see this as making sense from the prisoner's point of view, I'd rather die by my own hand than give up all control and let someone else kill me at their convenience.

I agree, but how can prisons make this possible without putting someone other than the condemned at risk?

Definitely sounds like a waste of time and money, but following the law is important. Good job on the governor and group here.

Agarista: I agree, but how can prisons make this possible without putting someone other than the condemned at risk?

Put them in a cell with one door and one little pass through. They should be naked when you put them in there. Make sure the entire thing is steel-lined and concrete reinforced. Pass through a single-shot pistol (unloaded). Once the prisoner has retrieved it, pass through a single round. Also, you could make available a noose securely fastened to the ceiling. Maybe pass through a razor blade.

Hell, you could even give them a few shots of Jack.

Leave them there with no food, water, or anything for roughly a month or so.

Return and clean out the cell. Repeat.

Just like before they give someone Lethal Injection, they use a alcohol wipe. We don't want him to get an infection, now do we!

I don't like murder, including the murder that people give themselves permission to commit.

To paraphrase Kubrick, "Man, you can't die in here, this is death row!"


/A Novel And Efficient Synthesis Of Cadaverine
//Violence in academia? Unpossible!

ronaprhys: Agarista: I agree, but how can prisons make this possible without putting someone other than the condemned at risk?

Put them in a cell with one door and one little pass through. They should be naked when you put them in there. Make sure the entire thing is steel-lined and concrete reinforced. Pass through a single-shot pistol (unloaded). Once the prisoner has retrieved it, pass through a single round. Also, you could make available a noose securely fastened to the ceiling. Maybe pass through a razor blade.

Hell, you could even give them a few shots of Jack.

Leave them there with no food, water, or anything for roughly a month or so.

Return and clean out the cell. Repeat.

Then: pay for the counseling for whomever gets to clean out the cell.

ph0rk: Then: pay for the counseling for whomever gets to clean out the cell.

There's that. Or we could just come up with some method that sprays it down automatically or something that even turns the whole thing into a crematorium.

They'll probably keep him alive long enough to convict him of attempted suicide now, or at least obstruction of justice..

Sid_6.7: It is only legal to kill him under the order issued by the court. Other than that they must treat him as they otherwise would.

It's called Rule of Law. Look it up some time.

wow. are you really this big a dick, or just having a no coffee morning?

It's not so much that they wanted to kill him themselves, but seeing as how Cleveland is the most miserable place in the country to live, they wanted to keep him alive a little longer as punishment.

Why should he get to the sweet release of death any sooner than the rest of us?

Sheesh, at least give the guy the lethal injection while he's unconscious in the hospital.

I hate the death penalty, for so many reasons.

ronaprhys: Agarista: I agree, but how can prisons make this possible without putting someone other than the condemned at risk?

Put them in a cell with one door and one little pass through. They should be naked when you put them in there. Make sure the entire thing is steel-lined and concrete reinforced. Pass through a single-shot pistol (unloaded). Once the prisoner has retrieved it, pass through a single round. Also, you could make available a noose securely fastened to the ceiling. Maybe pass through a razor blade.

Hell, you could even give them a few shots of Jack.

Leave them there with no food, water, or anything for roughly a month or so.

Return and clean out the cell. Repeat.


No food and water classifies as cruel and unusual. I'm all for capitol punishment but that's harsh even by my standards.
Hanging, gas chamber, electric chair or firing squad is still good. For the repeat offender pedophiles and those that kill their victims: burning at the stake seems appropriate. At least to me.

ronaprhys: Definitely sounds like a waste of time and money, but following the law is important. Good job on the governor and group here.

Plus, it's not like the old lady he killed had a choice in the method the guy used to kill her.

So here's my +1 Internets for following the procedure.

Fundamental Thereom Of Farkulus: Sid_6.7: It is only legal to kill him under the order issued by the court. Other than that they must treat him as they otherwise would.

It's called Rule of Law. Look it up some time.


Understood; but perhaps the Rule of Law needs to address these situations so we're not wasting everyone's time and money.

Fundamental Thereom Of Farkulus: Sid_6.7: It is only legal to kill him under the order issued by the court. Other than that they must treat him as they otherwise would.

It's called Rule of Law. Look it up some time.

wow. are you really this big a dick, or just having a no coffee morning?

wait.. he's the dick? Did you read any of the other posts?

Rule of law is a good thing, lets go with that.

navylostboy: Fundamental Thereom Of Farkulus: Sid_6.7: It is only legal to kill him under the order issued by the court. Other than that they must treat him as they otherwise would.

It's called Rule of Law. Look it up some time.

wow. are you really this big a dick, or just having a no coffee morning?

wait.. he's the dick? Did you read any of the other posts?

Rule of law is a good thing, lets go with that.

it is a good thing. it's the condescending tone with which the dick that delivered it that i took exception to.

Wasn't this an episode of Oz? The guy Groves in the first season?

Thanks, Churchill2004. I came for that.

I heard this on the radio last night, and thought I had to have missed something. This is classic Fark. . I would love to know how much saving his life will end up costing tax payers.

Irony tag on vacation?

I guess they're gonna charge him for another crime now. I heard suicide is illegal.

I know the definition of redundant but is this undundant?

This just proves that executions are about revenge not justice, since if they were about justice, the state would either let them die by suicide, or go ahead and offer the condemned the option of suicide, providing a little extra efficiency in the death row process.

The government wants them dead on their terms, so the revenge can be carried out... Having them die by their own hands or natural causes is a disappointment: Ya can't get revenge on the dead.

Today's people are too soft and can't deal with the gory stuff so there's no stonings, electrocutions or beheadings, but people still want to see the hated die.

pvd021: I guess they're gonna charge him for another crime now. I heard suicide is illegal.

Sentence him to death again. Kill him twice as hard.


Realistically, yeah, probably should have just let him die or followed up with the lethal injection, as that would save taxpayer dollars. However, that Rule of Law thing is important, and suprisingly, even for someone we've deemed is a bad enough person to die, he still has rights. I think part of this is also principle: You're a murderer and you will die for it under our terms. Trying to commit suicide is allowing yourself control over the situation and we don't want that.

pvd021: I guess they're gonna charge him for another crime now. I heard suicide is illegalpainless.
ftfy

Fundamental Thereom Of Farkulus: navylostboy: Fundamental Thereom Of Farkulus: Sid_6.7: It is only legal to kill him under the order issued by the court. Other than that they must treat him as they otherwise would.

It's called Rule of Law. Look it up some time.

wow. are you really this big a dick, or just having a no coffee morning?

wait.. he's the dick? Did you read any of the other posts?

Rule of law is a good thing, lets go with that.

it is a good thing. it's the condescending tone with which the dick that delivered it that i took exception to.

Nah, anyone who can fire up a computer but doesn't have the intelligence to understand why the rule of law is a good thing, even if it seems ludicrous to someone with only a cursory understanding of logic, ought to be flamed.

Ikahoshi: This just proves that executions are about revenge not justice, since if they were about justice, the state would either let them die by suicide, or go ahead and offer the condemned the option of suicide, providing a little extra efficiency in the death row process.

The government wants them dead on their terms, so the revenge can be carried out... Having them die by their own hands or natural causes is a disappointment: Ya can't get revenge on the dead.

Today's people are too soft and can't deal with the gory stuff so there's no stonings, electrocutions or beheadings, but people still want to see the hated die.

This would seem to place incarceration as a vengeful act too; we don't allow an imprisoned person to leave whenever they want, just like how we don't allow someone on death row to kill themselves whenever they want too.

FTFA: but the spokesperson declined to call it a suicide attempt.

Really??? What is it?

/iknowiknow.... ATTEMPTED MURDER!!!!!!

I have no problem with the death penalty. I don't see it as a deterrent or as vengeance or anything else, I see it as efficiency. When you have people that are never going to be released for the rest of their lives, mass murders, tortures, etc etc, why should they be kept around? Its important for good law and order not to let them be drawn and quartered by a mob or burned at the steak by the fundies regardless of what they did, but I'm just not sold on that whole "all life is sacred" crap. No one forces someone to kill dozens of people or rape women in their basements for months or years, and when the crimes someone commits are heinous enough, I think it should be game over. I don't think its a decision that should be made lightly or without overwhelming evidence, but when the decision has been considered fully and the evidence is overwhelming, then its potassium to the heart for them.

To that end, the state provides the most humane form of execution. If the guy wants to go out drowning on his own vomit than let him, much like the decision that he is getting executed for, no one forced him to take a mouth full of pills.

Agarista: Barfmaker: I can see this as making sense from the prisoner's point of view, I'd rather die by my own hand than give up all control and let someone else kill me at their convenience.

I agree, but how can prisons make this possible without putting someone other than the condemned at risk?

Review the history of the Catholic Church and their stand on suicide before being able to torture someone.

I can see why they'd have to do what they can... even when it may seem pointless.
However, is there anything preventing a prisoner from signing a DNR (obviously before situations like this)? That might at least stop them reviving the prisoner if he got far enough.