PA-- Now that Philadelphia Mayor Nutsy has proposed a 2 cent per ounce soda tax I am waiting for the stakeout of soda distributors just across the city boundary. Imagine a person getting arrested and jailed for buying a case of Pepsi and bringing it into the city. Demanding and deserving respect are two completely different concepts.

Philly has Ying Ling good beer return the bottles, good cheap only by the case so buy two for when you need one extra. But still glad to be from that part of the country. A real whole in most parts or out in the middle of nowhere any place nice.

Love the west booze any store any time

benlonghair: They opened up that cabinet
And they found our little stash
But they didn't know what it was and let us go
Minus eighty bucks in cash.

/obscure?

Nothing obscure on Fark, kemosabe.

something, something, fine police work., Lou.

Communist_Manifesto: albo: tallguywithglasseson: Also, Trappist ales >> Duvel.

don't worry, as the best beer town in american, philly has that covered
monk's (new window)

Oh wait you were serious, let me laugh even harder.

I'm almost positive that title goes to either Denver or Portland.

Meh. The best GOOD beer town in America has to be San Diego. Now, ratings = grain of salt, and it's clearly a site biased towards American strong/hoppy beers -- but what other county can claim 7 breweries on RateBeer Top 100 Brewers in the World list? Hint: No other STATE on the list has 7 entries.

/Not a beer snob, I swear!

6655321: PA-- Now that Philadelphia Mayor Nutsy has proposed a 2 cent per ounce soda tax I am waiting for the stakeout of soda distributors just across the city boundary. Imagine a person getting arrested and jailed for buying a case of Pepsi and bringing it into the city. Demanding and deserving respect are two completely different concepts.

I remember driving over to Jersey or Maryland and buying booze. You always had to watch out for the undercover cops who would look for PA license plates and radio the info back across the border.
I was always so happy to live in a state that solved every other crime and could devote so much effort to catching people who just wanted cheaper booze.

6655321: PA-- Now that Philadelphia Mayor Nutsy has proposed a 2 cent per ounce soda tax I am waiting for the stakeout of soda distributors just across the city boundary. Imagine a person getting arrested and jailed for buying a case of Pepsi and bringing it into the city. Demanding and deserving respect are two completely different concepts.

OBEY, CITIZEN.

FTFA The cops confiscated hundreds of bottles of expensive ales and lagers, now in State Police custody at an undisclosed location.

COP PARTY!!

La Torre said that the beer would be kept in a secured location, as evidence, until the case is resolved, probably in six to eight months. If an administrative-law judge finds that the bars possessed unregistered brands, the State Police typically would seek a forfeiture order to destroy the beer, he said. Depending on the temperature of the storage location, some of the beer will likely turn sour in that period.

Yeah, that's what happened. It turned sour, see...

tallguywithglasseson:
And seriously, a "citizen complaint"? Someone called the cops and said "excuse me, but this establishment is just offering way too many varieties of beer to be legit, please check it out"?

I know I'm getting old, but didn't we used to have something about 'the right to confront your accusers'?

/that was when we still had a constitution, sorry I forgot.

MaxxLarge: Sounds like these buzzkill bastards have absolutely zero idea what the hell they're doing.

Yay, bureaucracy.

Don't blame "bureaucracy" for the actions of the morons in its employ - blame the specific morons involved.

Government agencies are the only thing that keep so-called civilized people from killing each other and dining on the remains - that and inadequate freezer space.

PLINY THE YOUNGER....MMMMMMMMMM!

GQueue: Communist_Manifesto: I'm almost positive that title goes to either Denver or Portland.

Portland. It's really Portland and then everyone else, as Portland has an incredible amount of brewpubs and breweries, vastly more than any other city, in addition to some great beer bars. Philly and Denver and Chicago (which finally is seeing a bunch of breweries and brewpubs open in the city instead of the suburbs), among others, are in the next tier down.

This! I miss it! Lots of live music too!

albo: tallguywithglasseson: Also, Trappist ales >> Duvel.

don't worry, as the best beer town in american, philly has that covered
monk's (new window)

Really? One bar with a good beer list makes it the best beer city? If that is the case, Hopleaf (new window) would like a word with Monks. Be sure to download the full beer menu.

What are the cops going to do with 40 gallons of fine beer?

Dateline: Philly

In an unprecedented raid of staggering proportions, dozens of overweight, pasty IT geeks and Internet hackers descended on South Philadelphia today and proceeded to buy, steal and drink every bottle, can, keg and vat of beer they could find.

Calling themselves "Farkers" and led by a mysterious leader known only as "Drew," these deranged pirates waved beer steins and wireless keyboards, declaring they would "free Pennsylvania from the tyranny of liquor laws." Overpowered police could only watch as the thugs drank themselves into stupors in bars across the city.

There would be a film at 11, but the drunken revelers ate it, along with six truckloads of peanuts, pretzels and BBQ pork rinds.

Wow.

I am so glad I live in Portland. I have no idea how you guys in PA can stand it.

So because the State Police and the Liquor Board are blithering idiots, they just confiscate a bunch of beer for no truly good reason.

GQueue: Communist_Manifesto: I'm almost positive that title goes to either Denver or Portland.

Portland. It's really Portland and then everyone else, as Portland has an incredible amount of brewpubs and breweries, vastly more than any other city, in addition to some great beer bars. Philly and Denver and Chicago (which finally is seeing a bunch of breweries and brewpubs open in the city instead of the suburbs), among others, are in the next tier down.

and we got good weed

vernonFL: You suck, PA.

/Maryland has slightly less retarded liquor laws.

I can go to Gettysburg and get my own growlers filled. The ones with the Baltimore Brewing Company lids on them. No way in hell am I trading in my collectors' items in Maryland.

Bermuda59: More than a dozen armed State Police officers conducted simultaneous raids last week on three popular Philadelphia bars known for their wide beer selections. The cops confiscated hundreds of bottles of expensive ales and lagers, now in State Police custody at an undisclosed location party softball game.

lostsoulfound: Philly has Ying Ling good beer return the bottles, good cheap only by the case so buy two for when you need one extra. But still glad to be from that part of the country. A real whole in most parts or out in the middle of nowhere any place nice.

Love the west booze any store any time

Are you drinking right now? I read this twice and still don't know what the fark you are trying to say.

You'll get my beer when you pry if from my cold, dead hands.

By comparison, Pennsylvania is more farked up with how they deal with alcohol than how Arkansas deals with education.

/i mock you from Florida as i buy wine and beer with the rest of my groceries

The alleged offense: Although the bar owners had bought the beer legally from licensed Pennsylvania distributors and had paid all the necessary taxes, the police claimed that nobody had registered the precise names of the beers with the state Liquor Control Board - a process that requires the brewers or their importers to pay a $75 registration fee for each product they want to sell in Pennsylvania.

The bars ordered these beers from licensed liquor distributors in the state. They paid for all of the appropriate taxes and stamps for those beers.

Seems to me that it's the distributors who farked up, not the bars. So why is the state going after the bars and not the distributors? And why is it incumbent upon the bars to prove that they got their beers legally? If that were the case, it seems it would be easy enough to show with packing slips and invoices that everything in their bars came from the licensed distributor.

As one of the bar owners, I'd be pointing right back to the distributor and the state for not following the law. It's pure bullshiat to be making the bar responsible for the state's and the distributor's farkups.

vernonFL: zymurgist: I can go to Gettysburg and get my own growlers filled.

I can get my growlers filled in Maryland. I know the bar owner, but I don't think that matters that much.

Hmm. I haven't been to many brewpubs in Maryland lately.

Portland for the win. Still, even here it's a pain to buy kegs (I have a CO2 tap system at home). The form I have to fill out for each keg requires me to indicate "when beer will be consumed." I always write "ASAP."

/waiting for my OLCC home inspection at any moment

tallguywithglasseson: And seriously, a "citizen complaint"? Someone called the cops and said "excuse me, but this establishment is just offering way too many varieties of beer to be legit, please check it out"? Yeah.

The response tactic is to file a complaint against every Foreign Legion, VFW, and Elks Lodge in the state. See what kind of press they get then.

tallguywithglasseson: Also, Trappist ales >> Duvel.

The bar carried Pliny the Younger. I'm sure they already know that.

DaJesus: albo: tallguywithglasseson: Also, Trappist ales >> Duvel.

don't worry, as the best beer town in american, philly has that covered
monk's (new window)

Really? One bar with a good beer list makes it the best beer city? If that is the case, Hopleaf (new window) would like a word with Monks. Be sure to download the full beer menu.

Both Monks and Eulogy go deeper than Hopleaf does. And I see a shameful lack of German beers on that list.

Leigh Maida (above, left) and Brendan Hartranft, owners of three bars, including Resurrection Ale House, in Grays Ferry (below, left), and Local 44, in West Philly, call LCB raids "McCarthy-like."

I'm thinking, more Ness-like.

NiteGuy: The alleged offense: Although the bar owners had bought the beer legally from licensed Pennsylvania distributors and had paid all the necessary taxes, the police claimed that nobody had registered the precise names of the beers with the state Liquor Control Board - a process that requires the brewers or their importers to pay a $75 registration fee for each product they want to sell in Pennsylvania.

The bars ordered these beers from licensed liquor distributors in the state. They paid for all of the appropriate taxes and stamps for those beers.

Seems to me that it's the distributors who farked up, not the bars. So why is the state going after the bars and not the distributors? And why is it incumbent upon the bars to prove that they got their beers legally? If that were the case, it seems it would be easy enough to show with packing slips and invoices that everything in their bars came from the licensed distributor.

As one of the bar owners, I'd be pointing right back to the distributor and the state for not following the law. It's pure bullshiat to be making the bar responsible for the state's and the distributor's farkups.

ACtually, I'd just skip the bureaucracy black hole that comes from suing the state (well, I'd put it on the back burner anyway) and start suing the distributors for revenue lost.

If the state won't fine the people violating the law, let the citizens to do it.

I lived in Denver for the last month and I got to say, I wish I'd been in touch with more of you farkers. The only worthwhile place I got to check out was Old Chicago and for a town the prides itself so strongly on beer selection, I was wildly disappointed. There are easily 4 or 5 places better than that in Columbus.

/Loved the Breckenridge Avalanche Amber though...

Easy solution.

All the bar owners and places that sell beer, liquor and whatever should call a meeting. They all then pledge to refuse service to all officers of the court and police officers until they stop pulling this bullshiat.

Cut off their booze and you watch how fast the police would be zooming in and conducting raids on the liquor board offices.

They'd be accusing them of being on the "take" and haul them in on conspiracy to defraud businesses by maintaining deliberately flawed records.

PennsylvanFAILia

Callous: hockeyfarker: I would like to apologize to all of the gun nuts who I mocked.

surely the revolution is nigh?

I'm just so glad that you anti-gunners were right. Clearly registration NEVER leads to confiscation.

Big difference, this has nothing to do with the bar being registered to sell beer, interesting idea, only licensed gun owners can have guns... you have to have a license to drive a car and really what's the difference between a combustion engine and a gun.

If the bar COULD just register whatever beers they were selling, a la gun laws, then this could all have been avoided.

NiteGuy: The alleged offense: Although the bar owners had bought the beer legally from licensed Pennsylvania distributors and had paid all the necessary taxes, the police claimed that nobody had registered the precise names of the beers with the state Liquor Control Board - a process that requires the brewers or their importers to pay a $75 registration fee for each product they want to sell in Pennsylvania.

Exactly what I was thinking... show the cops the invoices.. there is much more at the distributor to confiscate. Unless of course they made the appropriate donation to the widows and childrens fund.
The bars ordered these beers from licensed liquor distributors in the state. They paid for all of the appropriate taxes and stamps for those beers.

Seems to me that it's the distributors who farked up, not the bars. So why is the state going after the bars and not the distributors? And why is it incumbent upon the bars to prove that they got their beers legally? If that were the case, it seems it would be easy enough to show with packing slips and invoices that everything in their bars came from the licensed distributor.

As one of the bar owners, I'd be pointing right back to the distributor and the state for not following the law. It's pure bullshiat to be making the bar responsible for the state's and the distributor's farkups.

NiteGuy: The bars ordered these beers from licensed liquor distributors in the state. They paid for all of the appropriate taxes and stamps for those beers.

Seems to me that it's the distributors who farked up, not the bars. So why is the state going after the bars and not the distributors? And why is it incumbent upon the bars to prove that they got their beers legally? If that were the case, it seems it would be easy enough to show with packing slips and invoices that everything in their bars came from the licensed distributor.

As one of the bar owners, I'd be pointing right back to the distributor and the state for not following the law. It's pure bullshiat to be making the bar responsible for the state's and the distributor's farkups.

^^^ What NiteGuy said ^^^

+1 internet for 80's movie reference!!

I f you just got rid of all the corrupt bar owners and corrupt pigs, you wouldn't have these situations.
Or bars.
Or pigs.
Good old Pensyltucky.
Full o fail since willaim Penn decided to have it named for his fater so he wouldn't look pompus.
/Founded by freaks
//populated by assholes
///making the south loook smart.

Bermuda59: I remember driving over to Jersey or Maryland and buying booze. You always had to watch out for the undercover cops who would look for PA license plates and radio the info back across the border.

Wait...it's illegal to buy beer outside the state and then bring it back across state lines into PA?

/you have got to be kidding...

Weaver95: Philly is getting desperate for money.

It wasn't Philly, you blithering moron, it was the state.

MikeFallopian: Resurrection Ale House, at 2425 Grays Ferry Ave.; Local 44, at 44th and Spruce streets, in West Philadelphia; and Memphis Taproom, 2331 E. Cumberland St., Port Richmond.

If I were in Philly I know where I'd be drinking tonight.


Exactly. I'm calling my Philly friends to scout it out. Next time I'm in town I'll show them my support.

In other news, the PA State Police enjoys their best St. Patty's day party evar.