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(NYPost) Dumbass A group of ultra-Orthodox rabbis are kvetching that lox should no longer be considered kosher as the fish often contain parasitic worms. Here comes the schmear campaign   (nypost.com) divider line 282
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2010-03-08 01:15:47 PM
Still no cure for animalcules.
 
2010-03-08 01:23:59 PM
Oy!
 
2010-03-08 01:30:19 PM
Shochet, libs!
 
2010-03-08 01:36:34 PM
IT'S CALLED CREAM CHEESE GODSDAMMIT

YOU ARE NOT 90 YEARS OLD STOP CALLING IT SCHMEAR
 
2010-03-08 01:38:57 PM
FishyFred: IT'S CALLED CREAM NEUFCHATEL CHEESE GODSDAMMIT

YOU ARE NOT 90 YEARS OLD STOP CALLING IT SCHMEAR
 
2010-03-08 01:48:00 PM
Oh, what wouldn't I give for a bagel with cream cheese and onions and lox and capers on it...
 
2010-03-08 01:53:11 PM
MissFeasance: Oh, what wouldn't I give for a bagel with cream cheese and onions and lox and capers on it...

I made the best tartlettes for a party the other day. Get the Athenos premade phyllo shells in the freezer section. Make a salsa of fresh ground ginger root, sesame oil, and peeled/seeded/finely chopped cucumber. Put the cucumber mixture in the shells, top with a dab of sour cream, then top that with some sliced lox. Garnish with dill sprigs.

Got rave reviews. And I see no reason why you couldn't alter it by omitting the ginger and adding some capers and onion instead.
 
2010-03-08 01:54:15 PM
FishyFred: IT'S CALLED CREAM CHEESE GODSDAMMIT YOU ARE NOT 90 YEARS OLD STOP CALLING IT SCHMEAR

perfunction.typepad.com

Lighten up, Francis.
 
2010-03-08 01:54:56 PM
+1 for the fark headline, -eww for the concept.

Something something New York water kosher/not-kosher because of the visible-to-naked-eye-sized plankton story from a few years back ...
 
2010-03-08 02:07:07 PM
Diogenes: Got rave reviews. And I see no reason why you couldn't alter it by omitting the ginger and adding some capers and onion instead.

That sounds delicious.
 
2010-03-08 02:13:48 PM
FishyFred: IT'S CALLED CREAM CHEESE GODSDAMMIT

YOU ARE NOT 90 YEARS OLD STOP CALLING IT SCHMEAR


Feh. Don't be so farbissenah bubby. Getting yourself all farlkempt over a little schtickle of cheese. You're gonna plotz.
 
2010-03-08 02:31:19 PM
FishyFred: IT'S CALLED CREAM CHEESE GODSDAMMIT

YOU ARE NOT 90 YEARS OLD STOP CALLING IT SCHMEAR


Schmear can describe either the quantity, or the product. Like cream cheese with something in it.
 
2010-03-08 02:33:07 PM
FishyFred: IT'S CALLED CREAM CHEESE GODSDAMMIT

YOU ARE NOT 90 YEARS OLD STOP CALLING IT SCHMEAR


Kish mir tuchas arine.
 
2010-03-08 02:48:40 PM
MissFeasance: Oh, what wouldn't I give for a bagel with cream cheese and onions and lox and capers on it...

So go get one...
 
2010-03-08 02:48:43 PM
FishyFred: IT'S CALLED CREAM CHEESE GODSDAMMIT

YOU ARE NOT 90 YEARS OLD STOP CALLING IT SCHMEAR


Schmear can refer to any spread for breads or bagels. One of my favorites is whitefish spread, which is a pate of shredded pike, oil, onions, garlic, and mayonaise.

Es schmekt, nu?
 
2010-03-08 02:50:35 PM
I just came in here to say that I thought the headline read "A group of ultra-Orthodox rabbits..."
 
2010-03-08 02:51:02 PM
You know who else hated lox?
 
2010-03-08 02:52:44 PM
FishyFred: IT'S CALLED CREAM CHEESE GODSDAMMIT

YOU ARE NOT 90 YEARS OLD STOP CALLING IT SCHMEAR


It'd like to thank the shaigitz for telling me that I am ordering my jewish deli food incorrectly.

Got any suggestions as to what kind of mayo or butter I should put on my smoked meat, while you're at it?
 
2010-03-08 02:53:13 PM
Therion 2010-03-08 01:54:56 PM

+1 for the fark headline, -eww for the concept.

Something something New York water kosher/not-kosher because of the visible-to-naked-eye-sized plankton story from a few years back ...


Did they look like this?
scooterchronicles.com
 
2010-03-08 02:53:57 PM
FishyFred
IT'S CALLED CREAM CHEESE GODSDAMMIT

YOU ARE NOT 90 YEARS OLD STOP CALLING IT SCHMEAR


farm3.static.flickr.com

Somebody didn't get their hug today.
 
2010-03-08 02:54:37 PM
Perhaps someone can inform me of kosher rules. If lox is meat and chese is dairy why are they allowed together in the first place?
 
2010-03-08 02:55:01 PM
"What is a bagel and cream cheese without the lox? It's nothing,"

OK, admit it. Who else heard an old Jewish man's voice when they read that? Anyone?

Anyone?
 
2010-03-08 02:56:35 PM
yert: If lox is meat and chese is dairy why are they allowed together in the first place?

Fish is consered parev. Neither milk nor meat.
 
2010-03-08 02:57:09 PM
yert: If lox is meat and chese is dairy why are they allowed together in the first place?

lox... meat?
 
2010-03-08 02:57:38 PM
yert

Perhaps someone can inform me of kosher rules. If lox is meat and chese is dairy why are they allowed together in the first place?

Lox isn't meat. It's fish.
 
2010-03-08 02:57:56 PM
Read that as "rabbits".. twice.. could NOT figure out WTF subby's headline was talking about LOL
 
2010-03-08 02:58:37 PM
www.oafe.net

WHAT?
 
2010-03-08 02:58:43 PM
1. Mornington Crescent
2. Gun laws
3. Beer
4. Coffee
5. Abortion
6. Evolution
7. AGW
8. Pizza
9. Yiddish
10. Barbecue
 
2010-03-08 02:58:50 PM
Bill_Wick's_Friend: FishyFred: IT'S CALLED CREAM CHEESE GODSDAMMIT

YOU ARE NOT 90 YEARS OLD STOP CALLING IT SCHMEAR

It'd like to thank the shaigitz for telling me that I am ordering my jewish deli food incorrectly.

Got any suggestions as to what kind of mayo or butter I should put on my smoked meat, while you're at it?


Baconnaise?
 
2010-03-08 02:59:18 PM
You're a real mensch subby.
 
2010-03-08 02:59:23 PM
yert: Perhaps someone can inform me of kosher rules. If lox is meat and chese is dairy why are they allowed together in the first place?

Fish isn't considered a meat...
 
2010-03-08 03:01:23 PM
I love Lent for this reason, watching all the restaurants saying "Friday, all vegetarian menu!" and watching the vegetarians get upset when they find it's all seafood.
 
2010-03-08 03:04:02 PM
Look: Koshurate law is based on spiritual notions of the will of god (not religious so I can spell it out w/o the underscore) and the interpretations of Torah and Talmud. Which means right off the bad it isn't based on science, but based on opinion/faith/belief. Now as we keep inventing new foods or the food supply changes or what we know about the food supply changes the rules need to be reviewed and refined.

This means that no matter how silly it may seem to the goyim, the people in charge of sustaining the made up crapola can continue to refine the made up crapola.
 
2010-03-08 03:05:54 PM
FishyFred: YOU ARE NOT 90 YEARS OLD STOP CALLING IT SCHMEAR

Schmuck. I still ring for the elevator even though most have been automatic for close to 40 years.

/my bubeleh would think I raised a meshugeneh goy because my daughter likes her lox nosh on a sushi roll
 
2010-03-08 03:06:33 PM
Never buy gribenes from a mohel. It's so chewy!

/What a shande
 
2010-03-08 03:07:45 PM
logruszed: the people in charge of sustaining the made up crapola can continue to refine the made up crapola.

Kinda like the Star Wars movies, I guess.
 
2010-03-08 03:09:08 PM
Don't make me pull this thing over.
 
2010-03-08 03:11:17 PM
yert: Perhaps someone can inform me of kosher rules. If lox is meat and chese is dairy why are they allowed together in the first place?

As it was explained to me by a Jewish friend, the rule of not mixing meat and dairy comes from passage which reads along the approximate lines of (please don't nit-pick this -- I'm going from memory here):

"Though shall not cook the calf in it's mother's milk"

The interpretation of this is that you don't eat meat with milk. While there's obviously a very strict way that this can be interpreted, generally food items that are similar to each other are also excluded, the (again, rough) reasoning being that a someone might see you eating the food and make the mistake of not following the strict rules you are.

So while some cuts of meats like beef, chicken, and lamb can all have very similar texture and can be mistaken for one another at a distance, fish is of a completely different texture entirely and hence is not subject to that rule.

I personally question why poultry is included there -- unless ground, I don't think anyone would mistake chicken for beef, and nor do poultry produce milk -- I didn't come up with the rules.

Odd thing is I don't think eggs fall into the rule of mixing milk either.
 
2010-03-08 03:12:36 PM
Good morning, Hebrews and Shebrews. What a glorious Jewish day!
Hey! How about all those coupons in the Sunday paper, huh? Some good deals there!
Hey you know I went into a store last week and they wanted 800 bucks for a tv, but i us'd them down to 500.
 
2010-03-08 03:13:04 PM
yert: Perhaps someone can inform me of kosher rules. If lox is meat and chese is dairy why are they allowed together in the first place?

And for that matter, why do Catholics eat fish during lent when they aren't allowed to eat meat? It doesn't make any sense!

/sarcastic
 
2010-03-08 03:13:15 PM
"...said Rabbi Moshe Elefant..."

Cla-ass... Cla-ass!!! SHUUUUT UUUUP!!!! Thank you.
 
2010-03-08 03:13:27 PM
Breakfast of champions: Everything bagel, cream cheese, lox, capers, red onions, fresh tomato, coffee.

/hungry
 
2010-03-08 03:15:35 PM
maxwellhauser: Breakfast of champions: Everything bagel, cream cheese, lox, capers, red onions, fresh tomato, coffee.

/hungry


I find that everything bagels detract from the already awesome flavor...I tend to go with plain or poppy.
 
2010-03-08 03:15:49 PM
This is not an issue for anyone except a handful of Jews in Monsey.

I applaud the rabbis who decide to take it on themselves to observe this as well as their followers, but Jewish Law is quite clear about what is permitted and what isn't, and they are going over the line, as the spokesman for the OU declared. This is the bizarro image of the conservative movement who declared that swordfish is now kosher because of microscopic 'scales'. That's not how it works.

I'm sure if we try hard enough, we'll find extremely small worm-like creatures on everything we eat. Should we stop eating completely?

Their sentiment comes from a very noble place, but at some point people have to stop trying to be bigger tzaddikim than Hashem.
 
2010-03-08 03:16:25 PM
What kind of tool doesn't eat something just because some ancient book tells them not to.
 
2010-03-08 03:17:25 PM
It's fish, so it's kosher.
That's good!
The fish contain parasitic worms.
That's bad.
 
2010-03-08 03:18:34 PM
logruszed: Koshurate law is based on spiritual notions of the will of god (not religious so I can spell it out w/o the underscore) and the interpretations of Torah and Talmud. Which means right off the bad (sic) it isn't based on science, but based on opinion/faith/belief.

Gotta call you on that. Chances are it was based on the observed science *at the time*.

For instance, the rules on shellfish and pork -- they're more likely to contain parasites, and given the probable lack of proper food preparation back then could easily lead to illnesses observed after people ate those items. Ergo, the law is written, "Don't eat these for they are unclean,"as based on the observation *at the time*, they weren't.

Similarly, there is a portion of the population even today who experience indigestion, and eating milk and meat together can cause this problem to worsen. Ergo, that law gets written.

I'm not saying that the laws still apply in the world *today*, but just because they're written down in a religious text doesn't automatically dismiss them as having no valid or even scientific reason behind them from the time they were written.
 
2010-03-08 03:20:44 PM
ron2112: "...said Rabbi Moshe Elefant..."

Cla-ass... Cla-ass!!! SHUUUUT UUUUP!!!! Thank you.


I gotta go to the can, man...
 
2010-03-08 03:21:25 PM
Firefly4F4: Gotta call you on that. Chances are it was based on the observed science *at the time*.

For instance, the rules on shellfish and pork -- they're more likely to contain parasites, and given the probable lack of proper food preparation back then could easily lead to illnesses observed after people ate those items. Ergo, the law is written, "Don't eat these for they are unclean,"as based on the observation *at the time*, they weren't.

Similarly, there is a portion of the population even today who experience indigestion, and eating milk and meat together can cause this problem to worsen. Ergo, that law gets written.

I'm not saying that the laws still apply in the world *today*, but just because they're written down in a religious text doesn't automatically dismiss them as having no valid or even scientific reason behind them from the time they were written.


Stop sayin ergo.
 
2010-03-08 03:23:15 PM
sboyle1020: Firefly4F4: Gotta call you on that. Chances are it was based on the observed science *at the time*.

For instance, the rules on shellfish and pork -- they're more likely to contain parasites, and given the probable lack of proper food preparation back then could easily lead to illnesses observed after people ate those items. Ergo, the law is written, "Don't eat these for they are unclean,"as based on the observation *at the time*, they weren't.

Similarly, there is a portion of the population even today who experience indigestion, and eating milk and meat together can cause this problem to worsen. Ergo, that law gets written.

I'm not saying that the laws still apply in the world *today*, but just because they're written down in a religious text doesn't automatically dismiss them as having no valid or even scientific reason behind them from the time they were written.

Stop sayin ergo.


Leggo of his ergo!
 
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