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(Some Guy)   Instead of recruiting Danny Elfman, John Williams, or Hans Zimmer to score a new Miles Davis biopic, they tapped a real live jazz legend. Well played, Don Cheadle   (twentyfourbit.com) divider line 79
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2010-03-08 03:31:18 AM  
Herbie is about the only person who can do this justice. And not just because he was with Miles during the 60s.
 
2010-03-08 04:11:16 AM  
Kenny G?
 
2010-03-08 08:42:51 AM  
I would've opted for Benny Golson, but you can't argue with Herbie.
 
2010-03-08 09:11:24 AM  
JerseyTim: Kenny G?

Even saying that in jest is an affront to music.
 
2010-03-08 09:12:35 AM  
Obligatory Jazz Bio:

Let's Get Lost.

Creepy scoundrel/beautiful musician Chet Baker.
 
2010-03-08 09:18:10 AM  
It's not like Elfman, Williams or Zimmer would have been considered for this. "Hey, we're doing a Miles biopic. Let's get some music that isn't even close to being jazz"

Of course it was going to be a jazz legend.
 
2010-03-08 09:18:26 AM  
First time I've heard about this. Looks like it could be good. Here's hoping it does for Don what Ray did for Jamie Foxx.
 
2010-03-08 09:20:32 AM  
As long as Herbie uses Don's TK-421 bass modification on all is equipment the soundtrack should sound awesome!
 
2010-03-08 09:24:35 AM  
Excellent. Can't wait to see it. I've always liked Don Cheadle's work, & Herbie Hancock is superb.

I got the opportunity to meet and chat with Herbie Hancock once a few years ago at a concert. He's a genuinely nice and down-to-earth kinda guy. But most jazz people I've met are.
 
2010-03-08 09:24:51 AM  
Do Want.
 
2010-03-08 09:42:10 AM  
WhackingDay: First time I've heard about this. Looks like it could be good. Here's hoping it does for Don what Ray did for Jamie Foxx.

Why?

Also, how the hell is Don Cheadle going to pull off Miles' voice? Or will it matter, since most people have never actually heard Miles speak?
 
2010-03-08 09:48:06 AM  
StrikitRich: As long as Herbie uses Don's TK-421 bass modification on all is equipment the soundtrack should sound awesome!

Four quads per channel? That's like TWICE the bass!



/Maiden Voyage FTW!!!
 
2010-03-08 09:48:53 AM  
karmaceutical:
Why?

Also, how the hell is Don Cheadle going to pull off Miles' voice? Or will it matter, since most people have never actually heard Miles speak?


Because Don seems to be a decent guy. Also, I'll need to dig through my stuff, but I don't recall Miles doing much singing.
 
2010-03-08 09:50:51 AM  
karmaceutical: WhackingDay: First time I've heard about this. Looks like it could be good. Here's hoping it does for Don what Ray did for Jamie Foxx.

Why?

Also, how the hell is Don Cheadle going to pull off Miles' voice? Or will it matter, since most people have never actually heard Miles speak?



Dude, have you seen Ocean's 11? Don can do any voice going - even Cockney, ffs!
 
2010-03-08 09:56:13 AM  
WhackingDay: karmaceutical:
Why?

Also, how the hell is Don Cheadle going to pull off Miles' voice? Or will it matter, since most people have never actually heard Miles speak?

Because Don seems to be a decent guy. Also, I'll need to dig through my stuff, but I don't recall Miles doing much singing.


So what, is this to be a 3hr music video. We are all familiar with Miles' music. It is BIO part that these films fill in.
 
2010-03-08 09:56:52 AM  
This sounds promising.
 
B_P
2010-03-08 10:08:55 AM  
Finally!

But I always thought Mos Def would have been the perfect choice to play Miles.

But I'm sure DC will do an excellent job.

Can't wait to see it!
 
2010-03-08 10:13:41 AM  
I demand a Charles Mingus biopic. Better music and more interesting man. Love me some Miles though and it's better than another BS classic rock biopic. Those guys were choir boys compared to the great jazzmen.

Heroin FTL.
 
2010-03-08 10:14:13 AM  
Cheadle is a hell of an actor, can't think of any reason why he won't be able to pull it off.

Put me in the "will see it on opening day" category.
 
2010-03-08 10:17:52 AM  
AnotherBluesStringer: This sounds promising.

indeed
 
2010-03-08 10:23:45 AM  
So, who will do the trumpet part? Obvious choice would be Wallace Roney.
/Still waiting for the Dizzy Gillespie and Maynard Ferguson biopics.
 
2010-03-08 10:31:35 AM  
I am going to write very angry letters of protest if this doesn't have the "biatch, get out my car" story. Very. Angry. Letters.
 
2010-03-08 10:35:19 AM  
He may be known for other things but it bears pointing out that John Williams is an excellent jazz musician and started his career that way.
 
2010-03-08 10:38:14 AM  
karmaceutical: WhackingDay: First time I've heard about this. Looks like it could be good. Here's hoping it does for Don what Ray did for Jamie Foxx.

Why?

Also, how the hell is Don Cheadle going to pull off Miles' voice? Or will it matter, since most people have never actually heard Miles speak?


He just has to do a throaty, guttural whisper - shouldn't be too hard. I really hope this is good. Miles' autobiography (ghostwritten by Quincy Troupe) is one of the most entertaining books I've ever read, even if it is a lot of Miles' megalomaniac BS.
 
2010-03-08 10:38:37 AM  
Mangoose: I am going to write very angry letters of protest if this doesn't have the "biatch, get out my car" story. Very. Angry. Letters.

Was that story featured in "Miles on Miles"? I gotta go re-read that book.
 
2010-03-08 10:40:31 AM  
Indeed. GG, Cheadle. GG.
 
2010-03-08 10:45:07 AM  
mitchcumpstein: karmaceutical: WhackingDay: First time I've heard about this. Looks like it could be good. Here's hoping it does for Don what Ray did for Jamie Foxx.

Why?

Also, how the hell is Don Cheadle going to pull off Miles' voice? Or will it matter, since most people have never actually heard Miles speak?

He just has to do a throaty, guttural whisper - shouldn't be too hard. I really hope this is good. Miles' autobiography (ghostwritten by Quincy Troupe) is one of the most entertaining books I've ever read, even if it is a lot of Miles' megalomaniac BS.


If Cheadle can pull off a great Sammy Davis Jr, I have no doubts he can pull off Miles.

If anyone hasn't seen the HBO "The Rat Pack" they should.
 
2010-03-08 10:48:03 AM  
Cool. Or 'Birth of the Cool' so to speak.

Cheadle is an excellent actor.

As far as the soundtrack goes:

What's wrong?

Couldn't they just license Miles' music?

'Kind of Blue' ftw
 
2010-03-08 10:50:15 AM  
douchebag/hater: Cool. Or 'Birth of the Cool' so to speak.

Cheadle is an excellent actor.

As far as the soundtrack goes:

What's wrong?

Couldn't they just license Miles' music?

'Kind of Blue' ftw


So What?
 
2010-03-08 10:52:48 AM  
Teach Don how to play the trumpet and the fingerings to what he's going to play on screen. Or do that thing where you digitally composite an actor's head with a musician's hands. Regardless of the story and the acting, I love Ray because Jamie Fox is actually playing. If he wasn't, then they got me fooled -- good.

Don't make something simple look like it's hard to play. Don't make something difficult look too easy. Don't move one finger and expect me to believe that was a flurry of notes. Don't flip your hands all over the keyboard when everything you hear is in the middle register. Don't wince musically at inappropriate times -- it's worse than overdubbed moaning in a Skinemax flick.

And if you're doing a biopic, please try to spend some time trying to understand the guy's music, instead of just getting into the character.

Whatever you do, please don't insult musicians with lackluster instrumental mimicking. Have a coach on hand and give him "cut" authority on the set. There's just *nothing more aggravating for a musician than watching an untrained actor pretend to play an instrument. Yes, I know -- acting is pretending -- but this is where I want actors to go method.

(* Actually, there is one thing. When someone's playing a piano and people walk up and start clomping out clusters in the low register, or tiddly-winking the high notes, it fills the actual player with murderous rage. This isn't a threat; it's a warning. Keep doing that, and one day you'll find your fingertips chopped off with the keyboard lid.)
 
2010-03-08 10:53:04 AM  
gshepnyc: He may be known for other things but it bears pointing out that John Williams is an excellent jazz musician and started his career that way.

John Williams is a classical guitarist, and is in Guitar Player magazine's "Gallery of the Greats" for his work.
karmaceutical: Why?

Also, how the hell is Don Cheadle going to pull off Miles' voice? Or will it matter, since most people have never actually heard Miles speak?


There are literally hundreds of interviews with Miles. Anybody who has never heard him speak cannot call themselves a fan of jazz music. Last month, Ovation network aired several documentaries about him, and you could catch it on any day of the month. Since he was stabbed in the throat back in the day, along with heroin, cocaine and alcohol abuse, combined with his 2 pack a day cigarette habit, virtually ANY actor worth his salt could do an approximation of his voice. It was the quintessential jazz musician voice.

You can probably find his interviews online if you are so inclined.

I've been waiting for this movie since he died in the early 1990's. Since Herbie is doing the music, this should be excellent. He's done movie scores before, and they are always stellar.
 
2010-03-08 10:54:31 AM  
WhyteRaven74: Herbie is about the only person who can do this justice. And not just because he was with Miles during the 60s.

I'm guessing that Terence Blanchard could also do a decent job on this score ... it kind of helps to be able to play trumpet, but Herbie is no slouch in film scoring.
 
2010-03-08 10:58:26 AM  
qsblues:

There are literally hundreds of interviews with Miles. Anybody who has never heard him speak cannot call themselves a fan of jazz music. Last month, Ovation network aired several documentaries about him, and you could catch it on any day of the month. Since he was stabbed in the throat back in the day, along with heroin, cocaine and alcohol abuse, combined with his 2 pack a day cigarette habit, virtually ANY actor worth his salt could do an approximation of his voice. It was the quintessential jazz musician voice.

You can probably find his interviews online if you are so inclined.


Preaching to the choir, bobo.
 
2010-03-08 11:00:13 AM  
www.delawareonline.com

Approves.
 
2010-03-08 11:01:11 AM  
I swear, I thought he was dead.
 
2010-03-08 11:02:19 AM  
Lernaeus: Teach Don how to play the trumpet and the fingerings to what he's going to play on screen. Or do that thing where you digitally composite an actor's head with a musician's hands. Regardless of the story and the acting, I love Ray because Jamie Fox is actually playing. If he wasn't, then they got me fooled -- good.

Don did that in "The Rat Pack" I think he can actually play.
 
2010-03-08 11:10:03 AM  
WhackingDay: First time I've heard about this. Looks like it could be good. Here's hoping it does for Don what Ray did for Jamie Foxx.

You mean turn him into an annoying douchebag with a career in horrible music?

/a-a-a-a-a-alcohol
 
2010-03-08 11:12:20 AM  
karmaceutical: Preaching to the choir, bobo.

If choirs didn't need to be preached to, they wouldn't be in church. There are a lot of people who don't know anything about one of the most important musicians of the 20th century.

"bobo"?
 
2010-03-08 11:17:11 AM  
WhyteRaven74: Herbie is about the only person who can do this justice. And not just because he was with Miles during the 60s.

Over in one.

--

However, to answer an OT quandery...

Lernaeus: Teach Don how to play the trumpet and the fingerings to what he's going to play on screen. Or do that thing where you digitally composite an actor's head with a musician's hands. Regardless of the story and the acting, I love Ray because Jamie Fox is actually playing. If he wasn't, then they got me fooled -- good.

No foolin' you. The director didn't realize Jamie had been playing since he was a kid, when he gave the part to Jamie. "Don't worry, we'll have a stand-in for the closeups on the keyboard..." Jamie walked over to the piano in the room, and nailed a Ray classic. Director: "Thank you, Jesus!" (dramatic eyeroll up)
 
2010-03-08 11:24:36 AM  
"I don't know what I'm talking aboot. Excuse me, I've been in Canada. Opening for Miles Davis - Kilometers Davis."

img59.imageshack.us
 
2010-03-08 11:26:49 AM  
HowAboutNo: "I don't know what I'm talking aboot. Excuse me, I've been in Canada. Opening for Miles Davis - Kilometers Davis."

That's actually a really good line.
 
2010-03-08 11:26:49 AM  
douchebag/hater: Cool. Or 'Birth of the Cool' so to speak.

Cool like dat?
/Link
 
2010-03-08 11:32:01 AM  
Lernaeus: Teach Don........... method.

Oh just shut up. News flash. It's a movie. Actors aren't generally cowboys or quarterbacks or accountants or pool sharks or race car drivers or sharpshooters or boxers or porn stars or pilots or golfers either. It's not more important or easier to fake when it's a musician, you just think it is because you know something about it.
 
2010-03-08 11:34:30 AM  
Though Hans Zimmer would have scored better for that annoying stupid modern rapid cut editing that it's likely to have.
 
2010-03-08 11:35:13 AM  
Lernaeus: Teach Don how to play the trumpet and the fingerings to what he's going to play on screen. Or do that thing where you digitally composite an actor's head with a musician's hands. Regardless of the story and the acting, I love Ray because Jamie Fox is actually playing. If he wasn't, then they got me fooled -- good.

Don't make something simple look like it's hard to play. Don't make something difficult look too easy. Don't move one finger and expect me to believe that was a flurry of notes. Don't flip your hands all over the keyboard when everything you hear is in the middle register. Don't wince musically at inappropriate times -- it's worse than overdubbed moaning in a Skinemax flick.

And if you're doing a biopic, please try to spend some time trying to understand the guy's music, instead of just getting into the character.

Whatever you do, please don't insult musicians with lackluster instrumental mimicking. Have a coach on hand and give him "cut" authority on the set. There's just *nothing more aggravating for a musician than watching an untrained actor pretend to play an instrument. Yes, I know -- acting is pretending -- but this is where I want actors to go method.

(* Actually, there is one thing. When someone's playing a piano and people walk up and start clomping out clusters in the low register, or tiddly-winking the high notes, it fills the actual player with murderous rage. This isn't a threat; it's a warning. Keep doing that, and one day you'll find your fingertips chopped off with the keyboard lid.)


Production has been on hold for about a year. I heard an interview with Marcus Miller about a year ago and he was talking about how serious cheadle was going to take this role. He said that Don had been studying profusely and was already at a junior high/high school level of playing. It seems like he might do a lot of the playing.

Roney would be a good backup. I almost prefer Blanchard over Herbie doing the music though.
 
2010-03-08 12:02:59 PM  
Sounds very promising, I hope they cover this period of Miles, when he started playing before rock audiences:
images.uulyrics.com

Of course, for it to be an authentic Miles biopic, the screen Miles will need to say "motherfarker" about every 10th word.
 
2010-03-08 12:21:58 PM  
Henry Holland: Sounds very promising, I hope they cover this period of Miles, when he started playing before rock audiences:


Of course, for it to be an authentic Miles biopic, the screen Miles will need to say "motherfarker" about every 10th word.


I didn't know that Samuel L. Jackson was going to be in the movie ...
 
2010-03-08 12:33:39 PM  
Tom_Slick 2010-03-08 10:50:15 AM
douchebag/hater: Cool. Or 'Birth of the Cool' so to speak.

Cheadle is an excellent actor.

As far as the soundtrack goes:

What's wrong?

Couldn't they just license Miles' music?

'Kind of Blue' ftw

So What?


Time After Time you can be Standing on the Corner looking at the Filles of Kilimanjaro or you can be Running the Voodoo Down with your biatches Brew.

Take your pick
 
2010-03-08 12:38:45 PM  
qsblues: Henry Holland: Sounds very promising, I hope they cover this period of Miles, when he started playing before rock audiences:


Of course, for it to be an authentic Miles biopic, the screen Miles will need to say "motherfarker" about every 10th word.

I didn't know that Samuel L. Jackson was going to be in the movie ...


"Hand me my trumpet."
"Which one is it?"
"The one that says Bad Motherfarker on it."

/Got nuthin
 
2010-03-08 12:41:38 PM  
jpat: qsblues: Henry Holland: Sounds very promising, I hope they cover this period of Miles, when he started playing before rock audiences:


Of course, for it to be an authentic Miles biopic, the screen Miles will need to say "motherfarker" about every 10th word.

I didn't know that Samuel L. Jackson was going to be in the movie ...

"Hand me my trumpet."
"Which one is it?"
"The one that says Bad Motherfarker on it."

/Got nuthin


you owe me a keyboard and a monitor, you bad motherfarker ...
that was good ... +1
 
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